The Party Pooper Thread (1 Viewer)

[angman]

I think the Giants have some chance of winning, they have played pretty well, but I don't think they go to Lambeau and win. The Packers are a bad matchup for New York. The Giants defence is predicated on their D-Line and pass rush, and in order to do that, the QB has to hold on to the ball a little longer. Green Bay's passing game is a quick passing game, and relies on the Packers WRs to rack up the YAC. The ball will be out of Favre's hands before Strahan and Umineyora get to him. Then the matchup becomes the Packers WRs against the beaten up Giants secondary. Big time advantage Packers. Also, Green Bay won't abandon the run like Dallas did against NYG. On defence, the Packers have the physical corners to deal with Burress and Toomer, and their front 7 is very good. I give the Giants respect because they've been playing great, but I really like Green Bay in this game.

As for SD having a chance, the chances are not that good on paper, especially because of the injuries. The Chargers greatest assets may be intangibles such as revenge, and that nothing to lose attitude they had against the Colts. They'll need the same agressive attitude to have a chance against New England. That means trying to pressure Brady as best you can. Cromartie has to play exceptionally well against Moss because in order to send Merriman and Phillips at Brady, there will be times he's 1 on 1 with Moss. If I'm SD, Welker and Watson in the middle of the field is what scares me. Offensively to have a chance, again, SD needs to be agressive. Take shots down the field. Throw NE off by passing in running situations and running in passing situations. Utilize Sproles in the flat. Hit them in the mouth with Turner and a power running game. Obviously the task for SD is harder if LT, Rivers and Gates are not 100%, but (and I can't believe I'm saying this), the Chargers have shown great heart and resilancy, and that shouldn't be discounted. I expect NE to win, but SD will lay it all on the line and win or lose go home with their heads held high.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Anyone who looks at the early season victory against the Bolts as predictive is a stone cold moron.

This guy is right. With Belichick having an extra week to prepare, as well as not having the spectre of 'videogate' hanging over his head like it was early in the season, this beating will be even more severe than the one they laid on them earlier in the year.I don't think the Chargers score a single point in this game (*predictions to be used for entertainment purposes only), but they won't care because they "made it this far".There's going to be a lot of boo-hooing this week from the Chargers about how it's too bad they're not at full strength and that they had a "hellofa season". They're just satisfied to be this far. They have no juice left and will just get ho-slapped this weekend. This game is going to be over in the first 3 minutes. Really.

Curious. You took my post, which was intended to point out that the Chargers are a FAR better team today than in Week 2, and spun it to reinforce the idea that the Bolts don't have a shot. Some things to consider:- It could be defensibly argued that NO ONE is playing better defense that the Bolts right now- The Boltz passing attack has been made legitimate by Norv, Chambers and Jackson "waking up".- How much bloodlust do you think the Boltz have for beating NE?- Oh BTW, the Boltz just took out the defending superbowl champs on the road- The Boltz get to play the no respect card this week due to a ridiculous Vegas line

 

[DanFouts]

I can see the Giants beating the Packers and San Diego beating NE so I don't agree that it is set. I would say that neither the Giants or Packers can beat the Chargers or Patriots. And yes I do realize the Packers beat the Chargers but obviously the Chargers are playing better now and wouldn't have to play at Green Bay this time.

I can see the Giants winning especially if the game stays close. When is the last time the Packers won a close game they had to fight for? They beat the Lions by 11 (if that wasn't as close as the score says, next game is over KC by 11 on 11/4. If that also is not as close as it seems, then the most recent single digit difference they won is Denver by 6 on 10/29) the week before the Dallas game and since then, they have lost or beating people by too much to have any pressure on them. Compare that to the Giants who have played tough games for awhile now and if that game is close at the end, the Giants will have the edge in mental toughness to look at each other and say lets do it again.

The Chargers do need to get their guys in the game to have a chance and if they keep it close, they could pull it out. I would guess that LT needs to play and be highly effective for them to win. Most likely the Patriots win and will stomp who ever comes out of the NFC.

Oh please, the Packers pounded the #### out of the Chargers. Did you watch the last game? They went down 14-0 in the first minute and had to "fight" to get back. And fight they did. I hope we get to see the Packers vs. the Chargers, I really do. You really think that Eli Manning is mentally tougher than Brett Favre? I'd say Ryan Grant showed some mental toughness last weekend when he fumbled twice and then hung two hundy on the Seahawks.

The Packer beat the bolts in a close game in the 4th quarter with a nice slant pass. I hardly call that a beatdown.....

 

[ceo3west]

As a die hard Giants fan, I can say with confidence that as well as they have been playing, the Giants have virtually no chance to beat the Pack this weekend. It's one thing to beat a division rival who you've seen tiwce already and are playing in a familiar setting, but it's another all together to go into Lambeau in late January and win. As much as I would love to be wrong on this one, their chances are very slim IMO.

GB 27, Giants 21

 

[Sabertooth]

I can see the Giants beating the Packers and San Diego beating NE so I don't agree that it is set. I would say that neither the Giants or Packers can beat the Chargers or Patriots. And yes I do realize the Packers beat the Chargers but obviously the Chargers are playing better now and wouldn't have to play at Green Bay this time.

I can see the Giants winning especially if the game stays close. When is the last time the Packers won a close game they had to fight for? They beat the Lions by 11 (if that wasn't as close as the score says, next game is over KC by 11 on 11/4. If that also is not as close as it seems, then the most recent single digit difference they won is Denver by 6 on 10/29) the week before the Dallas game and since then, they have lost or beating people by too much to have any pressure on them. Compare that to the Giants who have played tough games for awhile now and if that game is close at the end, the Giants will have the edge in mental toughness to look at each other and say lets do it again.

The Chargers do need to get their guys in the game to have a chance and if they keep it close, they could pull it out. I would guess that LT needs to play and be highly effective for them to win. Most likely the Patriots win and will stomp who ever comes out of the NFC.

Oh please, the Packers pounded the #### out of the Chargers. Did you watch the last game? They went down 14-0 in the first minute and had to "fight" to get back. And fight they did. I hope we get to see the Packers vs. the Chargers, I really do. You really think that Eli Manning is mentally tougher than Brett Favre? I'd say Ryan Grant showed some mental toughness last weekend when he fumbled twice and then hung two hundy on the Seahawks.

The Packer beat the bolts in a close game in the 4th quarter with a nice slant pass. I hardly call that a beatdown.....

Maybe I was thinking of a different game. The Packers had a lot of trouble with Jackson in that game. I remember a perfect pass over Al Harris. Maybe I was thinking about it in the fantasy sense that they pretty well shut LT2 down.

 

[Gr00vus]

I canthat why you play the games

Is that a remote sense of .... optimism I see here?Who died and made you TommyGunZ ?

 

[bryan215]

I canthat why you play the games

Is that a remote sense of .... optimism I see here?Who died and made you TommyGunZ ?

Differences...since Game 2Chargers are playing much better and have nothing to loseACromartie is startingGates,Rivers,LT2 are all banged upRodney Harrison and Richard Seymor are starting and healthyPats are playing top notchBrady is playing like a golden godBill Belichek vs. Norv TurnerNE IS AT HOMEChargers need to catch all the breaks and play at 110%

 

[thayman]

Neither the Giants or the Chargers had much of a chance this week either.

Maybe most people did have Indy winning, but a good number of us in the FFA gambling thread called the Giants on money line.

I'm not talking money line. I'm talking win vs loss.

Any volunteers to tell him what a wager on the "money line" means.

I know what money line means, I'm not talking about making a bet that is going to give you a good return on your money. IE the Patriots are not a good bet right now because they aren't paying that well. It's different from looking at the situation and saying wow the Giants have a great chance to win on the road against the #1 seed when no team has ever beat the #1 seed in the Div. round, in the NFC before.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Neither the Giants or the Chargers had much of a chance this week either.

Maybe most people did have Indy winning, but a good number of us in the FFA gambling thread called the Giants on money line.

I'm not talking money line. I'm talking win vs loss.

Any volunteers to tell him what a wager on the "money line" means.

I know what money line means, I'm not talking about making a bet that is going to give you a good return on your money. IE the Patriots are not a good bet right now because they aren't paying that well. It's different from looking at the situation and saying wow the Giants have a great chance to win on the road against the #1 seed when no team has ever beat the #1 seed in the Div. round, in the NFC before.

I do not think it means what you think it means. [/inigomontoya]

 

[thayman]

Neither the Giants or the Chargers had much of a chance this week either.

Maybe most people did have Indy winning, but a good number of us in the FFA gambling thread called the Giants on money line.

I'm not talking money line. I'm talking win vs loss.

Any volunteers to tell him what a wager on the "money line" means.

I know what money line means, I'm not talking about making a bet that is going to give you a good return on your money. IE the Patriots are not a good bet right now because they aren't paying that well. It's different from looking at the situation and saying wow the Giants have a great chance to win on the road against the #1 seed when no team has ever beat the #1 seed in the Div. round, in the NFC before.

I do not think it means what you think it means. [/inigomontoya]

I just see a difference between betting on the Giants because you think they will win. Versus betting on the Giants because they have a good pay out.

Before yesterday no NFC #1 seed had ever lost in the Div. round. The Giants pulling of 9 road game victories is extremely unlikely. Now if you tell me you would have taken even up money on Giants vs. Cowboys, but that's not the case.

 

[switz]

Hey, we could let the organizations enjoy a hard-fought victory for at least a day, but where's the fun in that?Anyone really see the Chargers (even healthy) beating the Patriots? Can the Giants really contain Favre, Grant and the weather? Or is an emotional division victory too much to recover from?I know "that's why they play the game" but Patriots/Packers seems like a sure thing. I respect both organizations (especially since they traded with each other and are starting those very QBs now), but I see blowouts.

I can see SD beating the Patriots... as JAX passing game was what did them in, and SD has a better passing game.I don't see NY beating GB, as I think GB is going to go to the SB.

 

[Dodge]

I think the Giants have a better chance beating the Packers than the Chargers beating the Pats.

 

[Adam West]

I got caught in this yesterday. Saturday night, I started a thread called "the greatest game" about Indy vs. NE. I figured the Colts beating the Chargers was a done deal. Man, I was made to look like such a fool!

Never again. San Diego and the Giants didn't get this far because they suck. I can't favor them (who can?) but I won't rule them out. There are no done deals in a single elimination football game. In 60 minutes, anything can happen.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Neither the Giants or the Chargers had much of a chance this week either.

Half rightNobody gave the Chargers a chance vs. Indy.Predictions of a Giant upset of the cowboys abounded, on this board and elsewhere.

 

[smackdaddies]

Chargers = NO CHANCEGiants = GREAT CHANCE

As a packer fan, I agree with this. I think the Pack will win, but I think the Giants could win - they definately have the opportunity. If they get the rush on, then it can happen.I will be rooting for SD, but common guys - even if everyone comes back healthy, its a hard row.

 

[Fullback Fro]

threadworthy topic

 

[Eviloutsider]

You may be the first to say such a thing. I didn't even know they were undefeated...

 

[gilpdawg]

They still have to play. What if Brady gets hit and breaks his ankle or something? (Not that I want to see that, because if they lose, I don't want them to have any excuses, although I think they will probably win.)

 

[BaBastage]

NE and GB are the clear favorites in my book.

But NE played a near-perfect game, and they still "only" won by 11 points against the Jags on Saturday.

If they continue to play perfectly, they run the table, and deserve all the hype. (Although I wish many of the vocal minority fans would STHU about it. Jeez, some people never learned the best way to take a compliment is a simple "thank you". Beyond that is uncouth - plain and simple. * And it's not like any fan contributed to their teams' greatness.*)

But I digress. The margin of perfection is a slim one. I'd say the Pats win 8 times out of 10 against the Chargers, and 7 out of 10 against the Pack. Just my gut, for what it's worth.

My prediction : NE over GB in the superbowl by 10. (But I'll be rooting for Favre, and against Moss. I've got no ill-will against Brady and the rest of the Pats. But Moss is a selfish chump.)

*(eta between the asterisk-thingy's)*

 

[scott72]

I know I'm a but how can you say the Packers have no chance? Solid defense, solid run game, HOF QB, quadruple threat of WR's, top notch coaching and they still have no chance? I just don't see it. The Pats aren't Gods, they can be taken down.

 

[Raider Nation]

Neither the Giants or the Chargers had much of a chance this week either.

Maybe most people did have Indy winning, but a good number of us in the FFA gambling thread called the Giants on money line.

I'm not talking money line. I'm talking win vs loss.

Any volunteers to tell him what a wager on the "money line" means.

I know what money line means, I'm not talking about making a bet that is going to give you a good return on your money. IE the Patriots are not a good bet right now because they aren't paying that well. It's different from looking at the situation and saying wow the Giants have a great chance to win on the road against the #1 seed when no team has ever beat the #1 seed in the Div. round, in the NFC before.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

I just see a difference between betting on the Giants because you think they will win. Versus betting on the Giants because they have a good pay out.

My head hurts.Above you wrote "I'm talking win vs. loss." So am I. That's why I bet on the Giants to win the game.

The payout was nice, but I don't intentionally throw money away. If I thought Dallas would win, I don't make the bet.

Who's on first?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I know I'm a but how can you say the Packers have no chance? Solid defense, solid run game, HOF QB, quadruple threat of WR's, top notch coaching and they still have no chance? I just don't see it. The Pats aren't Gods, they can be taken down.

by whom? 17 teams have tried and 17 teams have failed...sorry , not this season...try again next season.

 

[scott72]

I know I'm a but how can you say the Packers have no chance? Solid defense, solid run game, HOF QB, quadruple threat of WR's, top notch coaching and they still have no chance? I just don't see it. The Pats aren't Gods, they can be taken down.

by whom? 17 teams have tried and 17 teams have failed...sorry , not this season...try again next season.

Last time I checked there were more than 17 teams in the NFL. You act like they've beaten everyone in the NFL to a bloody pulp. They've had a couple close calls and to say the Packers have no chance is just plain blind homerism and dumb.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I canthat why you play the games

Is that a remote sense of .... optimism I see here?Who died and made you TommyGunZ ?

LOLstrange things are afoot at the circle K. I dunno why, I never have this, I have an eerie feeling about our boys pulling it off this weekend. They will cover for sure

 

[HoTnickZ]

Interesting...

 

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I'm not talking money line. I'm talking win vs loss.