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The Perfect FBG President (1 Viewer)

Bogart

Bogart

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I didn't see anything like this (granted I only searched a little). Maybe a little stupid, but I need some stupid today.

Parties aside, teams aside, dunking on the other group aside, shtick aside (OK, maybe shtick), if you personally could create the perfect President for you, what would be the number one trait, attribute, policy stance, belief, etc. that you would want most and would make you vote for them?

I'll list responses here and see what the cyborg POTUS results give us. Results that get multiple mentions will push to the top.

 
Give me a mash-up of Clinton/Obama in terms of wonkiness and communication as well as understanding political maneuvering in order to accomplish policy objectives and I'll wait to hear what their goals and priorities are and may well vote for them if those policy initiatives comport to my leanings. Less slime than Clinton and thicker skin than Obama preferrable.

 
Ability and willingness to acknowledge and understand opposing arguments.

Ability and willingness to empathize.

Ability and willingness to compromise.

 
My Candidate

  • Level the public education playing field
  • Pro-environment with emphasis on how to stop destroying the earth
  • Pro growth/small business
  • Foreign policy similar to Trump's but tougher on Russia
  • Immigration reform 
  • healthcare cost reduction
  • mental illness reform
  • Covid policy similar to DeSantis
 
One that lumps Americans all together.  Doesn't separate or really comment on issues related to race, sex, sexual identity.  We are all American.  Don't care if you're black, are you American? Good then shutup and listen.  Doesn't virtue signal.  If you are the best candidate for the job, you will be considered.

Tough on crime.  All crime.  Including homeless / drug addict crime.   

One that does not comment publicly on every single shooting incident in this country and give validation / celebrity to the shooter.

Willing to recognize that the "other side" can and does have good ideas   Works to build coalitions between the parties to pass legislation that is good for everyone.  That does NOT mean trying to force his agenda down the throats of the other side.  Be willing to compromise, really compromise to achieve results.

Smart.  Has to be smart.  Not afraid to speak his mind on issues and stand behind them.  Tell me why.   

 
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Superior Onslaught skills.

Drafted Gates in the first round.  Autodrafted every other pick because they are all irrelevant after acquiring Gates.

Can win a fight against 100 children and Manny Pacquiao although possibly not against both at once.

Good understanding of US foreign policy.

Committed to providing each American with access to the Test Forum.

 
The first thing that comes to mind for me, when thinking of traits I admire in GWB and Obama, is empathy. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" resonated with me then and still does. A little empathy and decency goes a long ways. 

 
supermike80 said:
I dunno.....Stuff like this?

https://people.com/crime/homeless-man-charged-with-murder-shoving-woman-in-front-of-new-york-subway-train/

For starters.  Then peeing in public, littering, loitering, looting.   Assault, battery drug abuse / distribution.   
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Murder is still being prosecuted everywhere(except rural Georgia sometimes)as far as I know and the fining of folks for peeing and littering does still take place(ask my buddy Felix about that) and if looters are caught they are prosecuted as testified by the cases against looters during the summer of mayhem as well as the Jan 6th mess. Not sure I agree with you on criminalizing drug abuse on it's own as that is a medical issue not a crime, imo. Wanted to be clear you weren't suggesting criminalizing folks just because they are homeless.

 
Joe Schmo said:
Murder is still being prosecuted everywhere(except rural Georgia sometimes)as far as I know and the fining of folks for peeing and littering does still take place(ask my buddy Felix about that) and if looters are caught they are prosecuted as testified by the cases against looters during the summer of mayhem as well as the Jan 6th mess. Not sure I agree with you on criminalizing drug abuse on it's own as that is a medical issue not a crime, imo. Wanted to be clear you weren't suggesting criminalizing folks just because they are homeless.
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Homelessness isn't against the law--so no.

 
The most efficient and effective form of government is a benevolent dictator.  And when this country realizes it, here I am.

 
I loved Reagan, and I loved Clinton.  Both were great communicators and great leaders, and by and large they respected their opponents.

I’ve said this before but America is in desperate need of a great President, and I’m optimistic that  one will emerge.  We are too blessed a nation to throw it all away.  When the pupil is ready the teacher will emerge, and I believe that we are ready.  Call me naive.  Guilty as charged.

 
Joe Schmo said:
Give me a mash-up of Clinton/Obama in terms of wonkiness and communication as well as understanding political maneuvering in order to accomplish policy objectives and I'll wait to hear what their goals and priorities are and may well vote for them if those policy initiatives comport to my leanings. Less slime than Clinton and thicker skin than Obama preferrable.
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Obama can't hold a candle to Clinton.  Obama was no wonk.

 
TripItUp said:
My Candidate

  • Level the public education playing field
  • Pro-environment with emphasis on how to stop destroying the earth
  • Pro growth/small business
  •  
  • Immigration reform 
  • healthcare cost reduction
  • mental illness reform
  •  
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ekbeats said:
 great communicator and great leader, and by and large they respected their opponents.
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These 2 posts (edited) pretty much encompass it for me.  
 

that or Morgan Freeman in deep impact 

 
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A centrist who is articulate and well spoken who is willing to admit when he or she has made a mistake. Someone who wants to be President of all the people, not just the ones who adore or praise them. And how about they are less than 65 years old. They believe in climate change and have come to conclusion that tax cuts for billionaires don’t stimulate the economy. They want to address gerrymandering and sensible legislation to deal with prescription drug prices. They have integrity, empathy, are constitutionalists and we don’t have to worry about being conned.

 
Wonder Woman

Not Lynda Carter or Gal Gadot but, the real Wonder Woman.

If she cannot be found, I'd settle for Dave.

 
TripItUp said:
My Candidate

  • Level the public education playing field
  • Pro-environment with emphasis on how to stop destroying the earth
  • Pro growth/small business
  • Foreign policy similar to Trump's but tougher on Russia
  • Immigration reform 
  • healthcare cost reduction
  • mental illness reform
  • Covid policy similar to DeSantis
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I'm curious. What does "leveling the public education playing field" mean?

 
tymarsas said:
I'm curious. What does "leveling the public education playing field" mean?
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K-12 Schools funded federally where deficient...this is a big conversation and would be a drastic change to education and reallocation of resources.

 
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TripItUp said:
funding primarily
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Do you think this would incentivize states to de-fund schools? I agree that education is incredibly important, especially at the K-12 level.

Just trying to figure out how this would work. I think you would have to implement some types of standards, but that is starting to sound like "no child Left behind".

 
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tymarsas said:
Do you think this would incentivize states to de-fund schools? I agree that education is incredibly important, especially at the K-12 level.

Just trying to figure out how this would work. I think you would have to implement some types of standards, but that is starting to sound like "no child Left behind".
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good question on states, not sure.  I think there needs to be a baseline commitment from each state  (at least X percent of tax revenue) or something like that.  

It would be a drastic change and it will likely never happen,  but if I were king...

 
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dkp993 said:
These 2 posts (edited) pretty much encompass it for me.  
 

that or Morgan Freeman in deep impact 
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Pleasantly surprised you liked Reagan.  I was a Liberal in the 80’s but I couldn’t help liking Reagan.  He was such a good guy.  That voice…. He really projected confidence and optimism.

 
TripItUp said:
good question on states, not sure.  I think there needs to be a baseline commitment from each state  (at least X percent of tax revenue) or something like that.  

It would be a drastic change and it will likely never happen,  but if I were king...
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This might be my favorite idea in the thread. Really appreciate it. I wonder if you could reward the states that didn't take as much federal funding, or is that just making the rich richer? 

 
Bogart said:
Parties aside, teams aside, dunking on the other group aside, shtick aside (OK, maybe shtick), if you personally could create the perfect President for you, what would be the number one trait, attribute, policy stance, belief, etc. that you would want most and would make you vote for them?
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not just one thing - too much involved with being POTUS for just a single thing

I'd like a President who is American's first which means strong on border control and trade agreements and sending billions of taxpayer dollars to other countries. A President who stands up and represents white people, black people, brown people, gay people, straight people, born and unborn people, rich and poor, civilians and police all at once without alienating anyone.

Why that's so much to ask I have no idea 

 
TripItUp said:
My Candidate

  • Level the public education playing field
  • Pro-environment with emphasis on how to stop destroying the earth
  • Foreign policy similar to Trump's but tougher on Russia
  • Immigration reform
  • mental illness reform


  • Pro growth/small business
  • healthcare cost reduction
  • Covid policy similar to DeSantis
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so you're a liberal small business owner?  are you talking about healthcare cost reduction for the employer or the employee?

 
supermike80 said:
I dunno.....Stuff like this?

https://people.com/crime/homeless-man-charged-with-murder-shoving-woman-in-front-of-new-york-subway-train/

For starters.  Then peeing in public, littering, loitering, looting.   Assault, battery drug abuse / distribution.   
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Joe Schmo said:
Murder is still being prosecuted everywhere(except rural Georgia sometimes)as far as I know and the fining of folks for peeing and littering does still take place(ask my buddy Felix about that) and if looters are caught they are prosecuted as testified by the cases against looters during the summer of mayhem as well as the Jan 6th mess. Not sure I agree with you on criminalizing drug abuse on it's own as that is a medical issue not a crime, imo. Wanted to be clear you weren't suggesting criminalizing folks just because they are homeless.
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supermike80 said:
Homelessness isn't against the law--so no.
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bigbottom said:
Arresting homeless people for loitering is often a proxy for criminalizing homelessness. 
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supermike80 said:
Too bad.  
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Your last two responses appear inconsistent. You initially say that you don’t support criminalizing homelessness, but then suggest that you don’t care that loitering laws are often used for the very purpose of criminalizing homelessness. 

 
bigbottom said:
Your last two responses appear inconsistent. You initially say that you don’t support criminalizing homelessness, but then suggest that you don’t care that loitering laws are often used for the very purpose of criminalizing homelessness. 
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ugh.  No it isnt.  Being homeless isn't against the law.  Loitering is.  Using loitering, as you claim, to only criminalize homelessness isn't good either. However I am pretty sure it isn't always used just for that.   So yeah, depending on the loitering, there should be ramifications.   Sorry if that might hurt your feelings, but it's real.  If I own a business I don't want some homeless guy sitting outside my shop, loitering, driving away customers.  That has to be stopped.

 
supermike80 said:
ugh.  No it isnt.  Being homeless isn't against the law.  Loitering is.  Using loitering, as you claim, to only criminalize homelessness isn't good either. However I am pretty sure it isn't always used just for that.   So yeah, depending on the loitering, there should be ramifications.   Sorry if that might hurt your feelings, but it's real.  If I own a business I don't want some homeless guy sitting outside my shop, loitering, driving away customers.  That has to be stopped.
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What do my feelings have to do with it? What an odd response.  I’m talking about city loitering ordinances that effectively criminalize homelessness. Not only are such laws of questionable enforcement on constitutional grounds, they are horrible policy as the cost of incarceration is a wholly inefficient use of taxpayer dollars as a response to homelessness. 

 
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