The Tea Party is back in business! (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

Looks like the Government finally figured out that the NSA Spying, ObamaCare glitches, IRS scandals, Benghazi problems, and Syria were finally pushed far enough off the front pages. Good job not letting another crisis go to waste.

You forgot Fast and Furious, Egypt, and the various angencies grabbing up guns and ammo for secret "task forces". Time does heal all wounds paranoid and unfounded conspiracy theories I guess.Schlzm

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It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

Liberal pinko commie here, disappointed that we got here to begin with, satisfied at the outcome however.Extra points for conservatives continuing to destroy their own party.

YAY BLUE TEAM!!!!!!1!!

 

[Jewell]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

Why are you assuming that all 142 of those Republicans were influenced by the Tea Party?

If votes for the bill are indicative of a "defeat and repudiation the Tea Party", it's seems logical to think that Republican votes against the bill suggest philosophical agreement with, if not influence by, the Tea Party.

 

[Schlzm]

Looks like the Government finally figured out that the NSA Spying, ObamaCare glitches, IRS scandals, Benghazi problems, and Syria were finally pushed far enough off the front pages. Good job not letting another crisis go to waste.

You forgot Fast and Furious, Egypt, and the various angencies grabbing up guns and ammo for secret "task forces". Time does heal all wounds paranoid and unfounded conspiracy theories I guess.Schlzm

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And distort reality apparently. Schlzm



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[timschochet]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).

It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

Except that the "abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight" didn't create this mess. Those guys ARE ridiculous, they don't get along very often, but on the other hand they don't shut down the government over Obamacare, and they don't threaten not to raise the debt ceiling.

This crisis was created by the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was completely defeated and repudiated. I think that is a victory for rational people in both political parties. What you wrote is the opposite of what happened.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).

It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

It's going around. In Greece the rise of the far-right wing nationalist group called the Golden Dawn party had made great strides in stopping, and taking a prominent place in that ####ed up government. Then supporters went ahead and killed some famous hippie singer, and it was pretty much all over. Complete backlash, people don't want that nonsense. Not saying that is what the Tea Party is, but they sure do stir up the crazy in this country like I've never seen.

 

[timschochet]

This is not so much a victory for the "blue team" as it is for the Republican establishment. Tonight, the GOP regained control of their party and sent the Tea Party back to the kids table where they belong.

If Obama's moderately liberal policies are to be defeated (and for the most part I hope they are) it will be up to the centrist Republican establishment to do so by providing a rational, non-extremist alternative. But before they can do that, we have to get this immigration issue out of the way so that Latinos stop voting knee-jerk for Democrats. A path to citizenship is coming next.

 

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It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

Except that the "abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight" didn't create this mess. Those guys ARE ridiculous, they don't get along very often, but on the other hand they don't shut down the government over Obamacare, and they don't threaten not to raise the debt ceiling.This crisis was created by the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was completely defeated and repudiated. I think that is a victory for rational people in both political parties. What you wrote is the opposite of what happened.

As usual tim is staring at his toes yelling "LOOK MY ####IN TOES ARE STILL THERE!"

 

[Run It Up]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

Liberal pinko commie here, disappointed that we got here to begin with, satisfied at the outcome however.Extra points for conservatives continuing to destroy their own party.

YAY BLUE TEAM!!!!!!1!!

Its a shame we can't work together.

 

[drummer]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).

It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

It's going around. In Greece the rise of the far-right wing nationalist group called the Golden Dawn party had made great strides in stopping, and taking a prominent place in that ####ed up government. Then supporters went ahead and killed some famous hippie singer, and it was pretty much all over. Complete backlash, people don't want that nonsense. Not saying that is what the Tea Party is, but they sure do stir up the crazy in this country like I've never seen.

You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Maybe we can somehow cast Beiber as a lib doosh and see how the Tea Party can answer Golden "I read about them in Time magazine" Dawn.

 

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You guys pop your champagne...

Unfortunately I'll wager this gets a lot worse before it gets better... If it gets better.

As long as polarization along party lines continues to stifle rational thought in favor of groupspeak, I'm not terribly optimistic of the "it gets better" odds. Oh well...have fun kids.

 

[Run It Up]

The real question is how long does this losing streak continue. Does the current conservative party ever win another significant vote?

 

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The real question is how long does this losing streak continue. Does the current conservative party ever win another significant vote?

Nope it's all over. Dems have unchecked power going forward. That's good for America, right?

 

[drummer]

You guys pop your champagne...

Dude....

 

[timschochet]

The real question is how long does this losing streak continue. Does the current conservative party ever win another significant vote?

They stopped gun control. Given public opinion after Newtown, I would consider that a pretty significant political victory.

 

[Jewell]

This crisis was created by the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was completely defeated and repudiated. I think that is a victory for rational people in both political parties.

Perhaps all true, but do you think that just several years ago that 142 Republicans in the House would have voted against this bill? I'm not agreeing with the Tea Party during this shutdown, I'm just saying that it looks like their influence may be spreading within the Republican ranks.

 

[Run It Up]

The real question is how long does this losing streak continue. Does the current conservative party ever win another significant vote?

Nope it's all over. Dems have unchecked power going forward. That's good for America, right?

Great schtick, its held in check by a bunch of grown ### men who refuse to act - those Dems are out of control.

The real question is how long does this losing streak continue. Does the current conservative party ever win another significant vote?

They stopped gun control. Given public opinion after Newtown, I would consider that a pretty significant political victory.

Murika loves 'er guns. It was only a delay, give it a few more massacres.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

You guys pop your champagne...

Is champagne allowed under Brandon Marshall law?

 

[timschochet]

This crisis was created by the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was completely defeated and repudiated. I think that is a victory for rational people in both political parties.

Perhaps all true, but do you think that just several years ago that 142 Republicans in the House would have voted against this bill? I'm not agreeing with the Tea Party during this shutdown, I'm just saying that it looks like their influence may be spreading within the Republican ranks.

I dunno. Didn't a lot of conservatives vote against TARP?

 

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You guys pop your champagne...

Dude....

You read the thread title? Lol Tim is furiously masturbating to the MSNBC ticker on the 32" LCD He's got set up in his grabmothers basement. Make no bones about it... There will be plenty of chest beating going on in here over the next couple days.

 

[timschochet]

Some stenographer started screaming "THIS IS NOT THE LORD'S WORK! YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS!!"- then she got dragged off.

 

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You guys pop your champagne...

Is champagne allowed under Brandon Marshall law?

Of course. Brandon Marshall loves poppin bottles.

 

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Some stenographer started screaming "THIS IS NOT THE LORD'S WORK! YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS!!"- then she got dragged off.

exhibit K

FAPFAPFAP

:lol;

 

[timschochet]

Here's the Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7qtDRwGK5c

 

[Run It Up]

Make no bones about it

 

[3C's]

It's over. The House voted to approve the bill, 285 to 144. The breakdown was:

198 Democrats for, 2 against.

85 Republicans for, 142 against.

I changed the thread title to make it more accurate.

You changed the title to "Tea Party is defeated and repudiated", but you just noted that 142 Republicans voted against the bill. Does that mean that 142 Republicans do not repudiate the Tea Party? If so, it appears that the Tea Party influence within Congress may be growing, not lessening.

bunch of P's that are worried about getting hammered in primaries.

Make no bones about it... #### like this is what forces extremism. The tea party are idiots that are so far out on the right that it scares EVERY rational thinker. The problem is after staring into the abyss of stupidity that is this blue vs red slapfight, you dumbasses are forcing more and more people either to the sidelines (like myself) or to extremist countermeasures (like the tea party).

It's bad for everyone. Anyone claiming victory tonight is an idiot :(

It's dumbasses like a good portion of the GOP that play to the vocal minority (keep your pretend faith out of my govt) who push me, a lifelong R, into voting against them in hopes that they wake the #### up. As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

 

[Schlzm]

This crisis was created by the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was completely defeated and repudiated. I think that is a victory for rational people in both political parties.

Perhaps all true, but do you think that just several years ago that 142 Republicans in the House would have voted against this bill? I'm not agreeing with the Tea Party during this shutdown, I'm just saying that it looks like their influence may be spreading within the Republican ranks.

Possible. I think it's more likely that they were provided cover to look strong in their disctricts. I guess the same thing would probably be true of the two dems who voted against, I would like more info on that one. I can't honestly believe that all of these politicians really hate each other as much as is portrayed in these types of events. Sure there is going to be some real animosity between people but for the most part I have to assume they really interact like normal people and the majority of what we see is theatre.Schlzm

 

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As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

 

[drummer]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

 

[3C's]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

And term limits for reps, or longer terms so that they're not constantly in campaign mode (aka trying to save their job).

 

[Schlzm]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

 

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As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

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As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

And term limits for reps, or longer terms so that they're not constantly in campaign mode (aka trying to save their job).

You call it campaign mode, I call it being held accountable to the people who put them in office

I'll opt for term limits before I opt for super terms.

 

[drummer]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

I read somewhere that Mitch McConnell is trying to dilute the already stupid law to be able to collect even more money. It's insipid. Jeebus, don't call yourself a politician anymore. Just call yourself a well financed elected whore.

 

[Schlzm]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

I read somewhere that Mitch McConnell is trying to dilute the already stupid law to be able to collect even more money. It's insipid. Jeebus, don't call yourself a politician anymore. Just call yourself a well financed elected whore.

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As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

I read somewhere that Mitch McConnell is trying to dilute the already stupid law to be able to collect even more money. It's insipid. Jeebus, don't call yourself a politician anymore. Just call yourself a well financed elected whore.

of:

 

[3C's]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

And term limits for reps, or longer terms so that they're not constantly in campaign mode (aka trying to save their job).

You call it campaign mode, I call it being held accountable to the people who put them in office

I'll opt for term limits before I opt for super terms.

You call it being held accountable, I call it voting how you think will win you the next primary.

Representing a district should not be a career choice.

 

[3C's]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

I read somewhere that Mitch McConnell is trying to dilute the already stupid law to be able to collect even more money. It's insipid. Jeebus, don't call yourself a politician anymore. Just call yourself a well financed elected whore.

He got a $2B bump for a KY project with this agreement but my understanding is it was actually pushed by another senator, Lamar Alexander.

 

[3C's]

As soon as they kick out the extremists on both sides and work together for the greater good we'll all benefit.

Yes

Then toss out the lobbyists, special interest groups, and reform campaign finance laws.

At the very least ditch SuperPAC's and that stupid law that states corporate entities are no different than individuals when it comes to campaign contributions.Schlzm

I read somewhere that Mitch McConnell is trying to dilute the already stupid law to be able to collect even more money. It's insipid. Jeebus, don't call yourself a politician anymore. Just call yourself a well financed elected whore.

He got a $2B bump for a KY project with this agreement but my understanding is it was actually pushed by another senator, Lamar Alexander.

http://www.senateconservatives.com/site/post/2312/mcconnell-deal-includes-kentucky-kickback

http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/ports/328965--conservative-group-accuses-mcconnell-of-debt-deal-earmark

 

[Fennis]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Governor of Kentucky is a big supporter of Obamacare. Kentucky is moving very quickly in implementation.[/SIZE]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/opinion/my-state-needs-obamacare-now.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

 

[timschochet]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

 

[3C's]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

Of course we are. We need a revolution! Maybe we can circle around the capital. Clog up the beltway or something.

 

[Widbil83]

Should be fun to learn about all the other crap that was attached to this bill in the coming days!

 

[Fennis]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

Of course we are. We need a revolution! Maybe we can circle around the capital. Clog up the beltway or something.

Dont worry, I've started a Facebook page for it.

 

[CurlyNight]

Was anyone really holding their breath that something wouldn't pass at the last minute (well + 28 min past the last minute)?? I thought it was stupid to hold the country hostage initially over Obamacare. That is the law now. Deal with it separately. Other countries are probably laughing their assses off and are waiting for the same chit to repeat in a few months..

 

[Schlzm]

Should be fun to learn about all the other crap that was attached to this bill in the coming days!

No way this was a "clean" bill. Should be plenty of outrage over the riders that made this whole standoff worthwhile.

Schlzm

 

[Schlzm]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

Of course we are. We need a revolution! Maybe we can circle around the capital. Clog up the beltway or something.

http://millionmaskmarch.org/

 

[3C's]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

Of course we are. We need a revolution! Maybe we can circle around the capital. Clog up the beltway or something.

Dont worry, I've started a Facebook page for it.

Sure hope it shows it's support of the Constitution. I carry one in my pocket for the non-believers.

 

[3C's]

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about campaign financing. It seems like with the Citizens United decision, we would need a constitutional amendment to get what you guys are calling for. That's never going to happen- in today's age, constitutional amendments are extremely unlikely.

I think we're stuck with the lobbyist system we have now, for better or worse. Mostly worse.

Of course we are. We need a revolution! Maybe we can circle around the capital. Clog up the beltway or something.

http://millionmaskmarch.org/

Have a feeling that will be better attended than most other millionwhatevermarch(es).

 

[BigSteelThrill]

You guys pop your champagne...

No thank you.

This shouldn't have ever happened.

The 46 times the house couldnt squelch the ACA should have been enough for these rat bastards,

Instead they screwed around even more. This was pure suckage, even the final result doesnt change that.

How many abortion and ACA bills should we expect from the repukes over the next two years?