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The Top 164 (166) Movies of the 21st Century. No, not THAT Steve McQueen... (5 Viewers)

@Pip's Invitation - what types of movies did you gravitate to pre-kid? That might help us flag some for you that you might like.

You've given me a lot of good new music over the last few years, I'd like this thread be useful to return the favor. (I've been listening to the Triumph playlist and some albums)
 
As far as The Departed, it was also in my last wave of cuts. Broken record, but it's a movie I like a lot. (reminder we are only getting 4 movies/year on average for our lists - movies I would give an 8/10 rating to got left behind). However, I had recently watched the original, Infernal Affairs, and was reminded how good that was as well. That knocked it down a little bit, and the rat still does bother me.
 
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Hint for tomorrow's morning pair:

Our 1 pointer titles would be filed under the same letter, both deal with visions and dreams, but one is 'extreme'ly different than the other.
 
@Pip's Invitation - what types of movies did you gravitate to pre-kid? That might help us flag some for you that you might like.

You've given me a lot of good new music over the last few years, I'd like this thread be useful to return the favor. (I've been listening to the Triumph playlist and some albums)
As with music, my tastes were all over the place.

I liked mindf@uckery such as Memento and Primer, but I find I have less attention span for that kind of stuff as I’ve gotten older.

I liked the usual Scorsese/Coppola kind of stuff that most men of our generation do.

I liked the Coen Brothers. A lot.

I liked ambitious stuff even if it seemed random at times. Your Altmans and PTAs and such.

My comedy tastes are hard to pin down. Either it’s funny to me or it’s not and I can’t pin down much of a pattern, other than if it’s low-effort Sandler stuff I’m not gonna like it. I also thought Super Troopers was horrendous, so I wouldn’t want to see anything like that. I am obsessed with Office Space.

I like sci fi if it’s not formulaic. I am less interested the more it creeps into the fantasy realm.

I generally have no interest in action movies. Only the very top-of-the-line stuff like Die Hard.

That’s what comes to mind for now.
 
I expect to have not seen the majority of these films. My older daughter was born in 2000, my younger two years later. In 2000 I went from an avid movie goer to seeing almost no movies at all, outside of Disney, for nearly a decade.

Now if my children had been born in the 80s or 90s, I imagine that even if I hadn’t gone to the theater I would have rented most of the movies or watched them when they came on TV. But something else happened in 2000: television got way better. This was the start of the “Platinum Age” with The Sopranos, West Wing, etc, and it only continued to improve from there. So I chose to watch tv series rather than movies. I have no idea if this is unusual or typical.
 
@Pip's Invitation - what types of movies did you gravitate to pre-kid? That might help us flag some for you that you might like.

You've given me a lot of good new music over the last few years, I'd like this thread be useful to return the favor. (I've been listening to the Triumph playlist and some albums)
As with music, my tastes were all over the place.

I liked mindf@uckery such as Memento and Primer, but I find I have less attention span for that kind of stuff as I’ve gotten older.

I liked the usual Scorsese/Coppola kind of stuff that most men of our generation do.

I liked the Coen Brothers. A lot.

I liked ambitious stuff even if it seemed random at times. Your Altmans and PTAs and such.

My comedy tastes are hard to pin down. Either it’s funny to me or it’s not and I can’t pin down much of a pattern, other than if it’s low-effort Sandler stuff I’m not gonna like it. I also thought Super Troopers was horrendous, so I wouldn’t want to see anything like that. I am obsessed with Office Space.

I like sci fi if it’s not formulaic. I am less interested the more it creeps into the fantasy realm.

I generally have no interest in action movies. Only the very top-of-the-line stuff like Die Hard.

That’s what comes to mind for now.
I think you will get along just fine with this thread. We align on most things except maybe comedy, but we will see as we go. I don't like Coen comedies for the most part but i do like a variety of comedy.
 
I expect to have not seen the majority of these films. My older daughter was born in 2000, my younger two years later. In 2000 I went from an avid movie goer to seeing almost no movies at all, outside of Disney, for nearly a decade.

Now if my children had been born in the 80s or 90s, I imagine that even if I hadn’t gone to the theater I would have rented most of the movies or watched them when they came on TV. But something else happened in 2000: television got way better. This was the start of the “Platinum Age” with The Sopranos, West Wing, etc, and it only continued to improve from there. So I chose to watch tv series rather than movies. I have no idea if this is unusual or typical.
I think its typical for the general public. I went on a run were i did watch some and really loved a handful - Breaking Bad, The Expanse, The Americans, Six Feet Under, and The Leftovers. I think for me Game of Thrones was the beginning of the end. I think too many shows have a good idea for 2-3 seasons, then drop off and limp to the end, if not get canceled. To me its not worth the time commitment, so i stick to movies. If I don't like a movie, it is only 2hrs, not 30.
 
@Pip's Invitation - what types of movies did you gravitate to pre-kid? That might help us flag some for you that you might like.

You've given me a lot of good new music over the last few years, I'd like this thread be useful to return the favor. (I've been listening to the Triumph playlist and some albums)
As with music, my tastes were all over the place.

I liked mindf@uckery such as Memento and Primer, but I find I have less attention span for that kind of stuff as I’ve gotten older.

I liked the usual Scorsese/Coppola kind of stuff that most men of our generation do.

I liked the Coen Brothers. A lot.

I liked ambitious stuff even if it seemed random at times. Your Altmans and PTAs and such.

My comedy tastes are hard to pin down. Either it’s funny to me or it’s not and I can’t pin down much of a pattern, other than if it’s low-effort Sandler stuff I’m not gonna like it. I also thought Super Troopers was horrendous, so I wouldn’t want to see anything like that. I am obsessed with Office Space.

I like sci fi if it’s not formulaic. I am less interested the more it creeps into the fantasy realm.

I generally have no interest in action movies. Only the very top-of-the-line stuff like Die Hard.

That’s what comes to mind for now.
I think you will get along just fine with this thread. We align on most things except maybe comedy, but we will see as we go. I don't like Coen comedies for the most part but i do like a variety of comedy.
As I've mentioned in other threads, I find Burn After Reading hilarious, almost as good as The Big Lebowski. I am in the minority on that.
 
As far as The Departed, it was also in my last wave of cuts. Broken record, but it's a movie I like a lot. (reminder we are only getting 4 movies/year on average for our lists - movies I would give an 8/10 rating to got left behind). However, I had recently watched the original, Infernal Affairs, and was reminded how good that was as well. That knocked it down a little bit, and the rat still doesn bother me.
I loved The Departed -- remember what I said about Scorsese earlier. It resonated with me like his peak stuff. But I've only seen it the once. I have not seen Infernal Affairs.
 
I have rhe Infernal Affairs Criterion 3 pacl. I wanted to review the first before watching the sequels.

I like Scorsese more after last year's DotM, and Departed I like a lot. It just get a little more out of movies to come. It would have been on my next 50.
 
I'm a big fan of The Departed. It's an easy rewatch when it's on. No issue with it not beeing a top 166 film, but I would probably have had it in my top 100. Maybe top 50.

I saw the Speak No Evil remake and didnt' like it much, and I'm a horror fan. Never saw the original because I never learned to read.
 
I did not like The Departed because it broke so little new story ground and I hated that rat at the end by the McIntosh amplifier. Forget what people say about the overdone symbolism, that little ****er will chew your audio cables until you get this rotten mess of copper and wire, and everybody is shooting everybody in the head and I don't know what happened but she's pregnant and distressed and the prog rock is distorted and . . .
 
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I just looked at Rollings Stones list
Just the top 20 but it’s mostly terrible

I actually sat and read the whole thing. It's edited terribly. There are tense problems, plurals that should be singular, extra words—you name it. And the writer/writers sure don't like America. What we doubt about our country it asserts as if passé and unworthy of debate, spewing an implied invective in its unstated conclusions and assertions.

A list fit for people who think they're somehow more attuned to certain issues than we are. No, forget that. I don't want to drag anybody else into it. This is a list fit for people that are much different than I am. If these films are what the best minds in the world think about our country, then the past decade's extreme swings and tense polarization of two sides of a particular worldview make sense.

I don't agree to the terms of the debate. I'm either dropping out or going backwards in time towards a more decent way of being. I don't see anything good coming out of a synthesis or compromise between these two poles. I give the rankings the weight I think they deserve. Two thumbs down. And if I might paraphrase Roger Ebert and address the hacks and flaks at Rolling Stone, your article sucks.
 
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@Pip's Invitation - what types of movies did you gravitate to pre-kid? That might help us flag some for you that you might like.

You've given me a lot of good new music over the last few years, I'd like this thread be useful to return the favor. (I've been listening to the Triumph playlist and some albums)
As with music, my tastes were all over the place.

I liked mindf@uckery such as Memento and Primer, but I find I have less attention span for that kind of stuff as I’ve gotten older.

I liked the usual Scorsese/Coppola kind of stuff that most men of our generation do.

I liked the Coen Brothers. A lot.

I liked ambitious stuff even if it seemed random at times. Your Altmans and PTAs and such.

My comedy tastes are hard to pin down. Either it’s funny to me or it’s not and I can’t pin down much of a pattern, other than if it’s low-effort Sandler stuff I’m not gonna like it. I also thought Super Troopers was horrendous, so I wouldn’t want to see anything like that. I am obsessed with Office Space.

I like sci fi if it’s not formulaic. I am less interested the more it creeps into the fantasy realm.

I generally have no interest in action movies. Only the very top-of-the-line stuff like Die Hard.

That’s what comes to mind for now.
I think you will get along just fine with this thread. We align on most things except maybe comedy, but we will see as we go. I don't like Coen comedies for the most part but i do like a variety of comedy.
As I've mentioned in other threads, I find Burn After Reading hilarious, almost as good as The Big Lebowski. I am in the minority on that.
I will say that I did find parts of that funny as well. Also to be fair to the Coen's I have avoided some of their comedies because of not clicking with Raising Arizona and Lebowski when they came out. I have since then started to love Lebowski, and feel I "get" and like their comedies more. I haven't revisit O Brother or Burn since then, and have never watched Serious Man or Hail Ceasar.

Here were movies that were on my 90s list: There's Something About Mary, The Cable Guy, and Waiting for Guffman. I also love Fargo and Jackie Brown, and those would be examples of movies that code drama that are funny. Austin Powers and The Wedding singer are also favorites, but I could also be happy putting on Happy Glimore and American Pie. However, on the 21st century list has more movies I think are funny because of a few things: I watched a lot of animated/family movies and there are 10 or so of those. All of them make me laugh. The other big addition is horror/comedy. The 90s were terrible for horror in general, and I would argue the 21st century is the greatest run for horror movies in my lifetime. I actually toyed with doing a top 100 horror movies of the 21st century and still might. That is what I grew up loving in Middle School and High School, and just like metal with Opeth and Mastodon - these movies have rekindled a love for that genre. I think I said I had about 13-15 horror movies, and 6-7 are horror/comedy.
 
#164/#163

MIDNIGHT IN PARIS - 1PT

MARTYRS - 1PT

What a perfect pair to kick off the countdown - fantastic double feature! I am guessing you can guess which one is mine and which is 80s. ;)


To be clear going forward: when there are ties in points I post the movie in order of: movie on both of our lists - movie on 80s' list - my movie.
 
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Going back to my post about tie breakers and movies leaned towards - I want movies that surprised me, shocked me, and got a visceral reaction out of me. My lowest 5 movies are mostly movies that push buttons one way or the other. Most were tough watches and all have scenes that have stuck with me for years. Martyrs has all that and then some. I had seen a couple movies of from the wave of French extremity, but this was next level. This was the replacement pick for Speak No Evil because I have actually seen this one again. Definitely not recommended for 99.9% of people watching movies, but it did show me that I can handle that level of gore and that not all of these movies are just about the gore - there are really interesting albeit messed up ideas in this one. I told you all this was going to be be a wild ride. ;)
 
Tonight I will post 3. We have 1 2pter and 2 3pters. We have a another foreign language movie that I haven't heard of, a period drama featuring an actor we will see 5 times in this countdown, and my lone entry that I ranked as a series that grosses me out.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
 
I'm a big fan of The Departed. It's an easy rewatch when it's on. No issue with it not beeing a top 166 film, but I would probably have had it in my top 100. Maybe top 50.

I saw the Speak No Evil remake and didnt' like it much, and I'm a horror fan. Never saw the original because I never learned to read.
Did you not know it's a remake, or do you just in general not watch foreign language movies?

The Ring is the only remake I can think of that I would say is worth the watch. Everything else usually misses the point of the movie or gets away from what made them great horror movies in the first place. They lack the pace, tension, and social dynamics of the originals. American versions of the horror of other countries tend to show too much and rely on jump scares and kills.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
Not sure what I am supposed to add or take points away from a rating if not how it sticks the landing. We don't see eye to eye on that which is fine.
 
Speak No Evil isn't even the most upsetting or gory movie I saw during this stretch. That goes to movies like The Sadness. This was one that I thought was actually really good and there certainly are scenes that stick out and a movie I have thought about since. It checks all the boxes and was one I was planning on putting somewhere in the 100-96 slot on my list. However, as I hinted it is a very rare movie that I don't intend to ever rewatch, mostly because of the kids involved and one as a stuffed animal that looks too much like the one my daughter has. If I can't rewatch a movie, I can't have it on the final list so it was one of the last ones out, but got replaced with something just as bad.
This sounds intriguing - may have to check it out.

The title did remind me of this old cheesy, anti-bullying horror film from the early '80s with Ron Howard's brother.
 
As far as The Departed, it was also in my last wave of cuts. Broken record, but it's a movie I like a lot. (reminder we are only getting 4 movies/year on average for our lists - movies I would give an 8/10 rating to got left behind). However, I had recently watched the original, Infernal Affairs, and was reminded how good that was as well. That knocked it down a little bit, and the rat still doesn bother me.
I loved The Departed -- remember what I said about Scorsese earlier. It resonated with me like his peak stuff. But I've only seen it the once. I have not seen Infernal Affairs.
I loved The Departed when it came out. My wife and I liked it so much we actually immediately hit play again on the DVD and rewatched it. However on a recent rewatch it just wasn’t as good as I remembered. Jack isn’t on his A game. Very very good movie but like KP said this is covering a 25 year period so tough cuts had to be made.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. My making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.
Tim has made an entire FFA career out of this approach.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
One thing about The Departed that stood out to me on more recent watch was how it doesn’t actually feel like a Scorsese movie. Not sure if I can pinpoint why but as good as it is, it doesn’t feel like his movie. It’s more like a job he got brought in to do than something he incubated himself.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. My making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.
Tim has made an entire FFA career out of this approach.

As I was writing I had this sinking feeling I was describing Tim’s approach but that is not what I had in mind. I was just going for the absurd.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
Not sure what I am supposed to add or take points away from a rating if not how it sticks the landing. We don't see eye to eye on that which is fine.
I’m not just talking about you - I hear that all this time - and that part is hardly “the ending” - it’s a tacked on 15 seconds coda. I just don’t get how that ruins a movie for anyone - seems like overly nitpicky.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
I truly don't understand what your point is with this post.
 
Speak No Evil isn't even the most upsetting or gory movie I saw during this stretch. That goes to movies like The Sadness. This was one that I thought was actually really good and there certainly are scenes that stick out and a movie I have thought about since. It checks all the boxes and was one I was planning on putting somewhere in the 100-96 slot on my list. However, as I hinted it is a very rare movie that I don't intend to ever rewatch, mostly because of the kids involved and one as a stuffed animal that looks too much like the one my daughter has. If I can't rewatch a movie, I can't have it on the final list so it was one of the last ones out, but got replaced with something just as bad.
This sounds intriguing - may have to check it out.

The title did remind me of this old cheesy, anti-bullying horror film from the early '80s with Ron Howard's brother.
Oh, that looks like quite the movie. :lol: Until I read early 80s, I thought you were going to talk about the gem 976-EVIL.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
Tim likes people to yell at him online. Maybe these guys don’t.

Also, anyone who reads Rolling Stone should know what they’re in for by now. Eesh.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
One thing about The Departed that stood out to me on more recent watch was how it doesn’t actually feel like a Scorsese movie. Not sure if I can pinpoint why but as good as it is, it doesn’t feel like his movie. It’s more like a job he got brought in to do than something he incubated himself.
Could part of that be because it's a remake? Has he done any other remakes in his career?
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
I truly don't understand what your point is with this post.

It’s a joke about interactive “best of” lists with an internet audience that’s immediate. It’s apparently lost in translation or just not funny. I thought it was absurd. It’s why authors don’t read internet comments and it’s pretty much a joke about amateur and real expertise, but I see people took it seriously.

Ay de mi. Not a good joke apparently.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
Tim likes people to yell at him online. Maybe these guys don’t.

Also, anyone who reads Rolling Stone should know what they’re in for by now. Eesh.
I like talking about movies and trying to think about why I like what I like. I am also terrible at typing and putting my thoughts into words, so there is that element to it. No, I don't like people yelling at me online, but I do love hearing where I disagree with people and why. I don't think my opinion is any better or more valid than anybody else's or anything and admit I have weird tastes and quirks.
 
Speak No Evil isn't even the most upsetting or gory movie I saw during this stretch. That goes to movies like The Sadness. This was one that I thought was actually really good and there certainly are scenes that stick out and a movie I have thought about since. It checks all the boxes and was one I was planning on putting somewhere in the 100-96 slot on my list. However, as I hinted it is a very rare movie that I don't intend to ever rewatch, mostly because of the kids involved and one as a stuffed animal that looks too much like the one my daughter has. If I can't rewatch a movie, I can't have it on the final list so it was one of the last ones out, but got replaced with something just as bad.
This sounds intriguing - may have to check it out.

The title did remind me of this old cheesy, anti-bullying horror film from the early '80s with Ron Howard's brother.
Oh, that looks like quite the movie. :lol: Until I read early 80s, I thought you were going to talk about the gem 976-EVIL.
Ah yes - another one. Was that the one with Skippy from Family Ties?

ETA: never mind - that one with Skippy was Trick or Treat.
 
and the rat still doesn bother me.
I don’t get people that let 20 seconds of a movie ruin it for them.
Not "ruin", but nibbles at the enjoyment of. Since it's the last thing you see, often an ending like that if you don't like it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If something like that is in the middle of the movie, it gets buried more. My spelling was horrible there - it "does" bother me. I added a letter, not forgot one. But again, this is nitpicking movies that I really like for ranking purposes. I had to find some way to choose these 100 movies over the other 500+ on my list. :shrug:. Honestly what bothers me more in the movie is Marky Mark. I know people like his character and think he's funny, but it's often those types of characters that populate Marty's dramas that make me not click fully with them. Overall I love the twists and turns and Jack, Leo, Damon, and Farmiga are awesome in this. I just also recommend checking out the original if people haven't.
I’ll stick by what I said - seems silly to ding a movie for a tacked on (admittedly corny) less than 20 second clip at end.
One thing about The Departed that stood out to me on more recent watch was how it doesn’t actually feel like a Scorsese movie. Not sure if I can pinpoint why but as good as it is, it doesn’t feel like his movie. It’s more like a job he got brought in to do than something he incubated himself.
Could part of that be because it's a remake? Has he done any other remakes in his career?
Could be, I can’t think of any other remakes off the top of my head. Lots of adapting books but can’t think of a remake of a movie.
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
I’m going to change the thread name to “The only 166 movies of the 21st Century that matter. The rest should be dumped into Kola Superdeep Borehole.”
 
I still don’t understand why you didn’t just say these are the “best” and then use subjective standards to defend your rankings. When pressed just say that you watch a lot of movies and are smarter and more sensitive than whoever you’re discussing it with. By making it your “favorites” you’re losing the audience that shows up to be pissed off.

You just pass it off with a veneer of objectivity as long as you can until the rubber meets the road and then you just start throwing things back and forth until you’ve personally insulted a quarter of the board.

Putting all your cards on the table just ruins that element. That could have lasted you at least fifty movies if you played it right and were adept at it. Ratings, fellas. Ratings. Move the needle.
I’m going to change the thread name to “The only 166 movies of the 21st Century that matter. The rest should be dumped into Kola Superdeep Borehole.”

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MIDNIGHT IN PARIS - 1PT
MARTYRS - 1PT


What a perfect pair to kick off the countdown - fantastic double feature! I am guessing you can guess which one is mine and which is 80s. ;)


To be clear going forward: when there are ties in points I post the movie in order of: movie on both of our lists - movie on 80s' list - my movie.
It wouldn’t be a movie list from me if I didn’t have a Woody Allen movie tacked on the very end. What can I say, he’s a creep but my dad grew up on his movies and humor and passed that a long to me. I’m not sure he even really know what’s happened with Woody and I don’t have the heart to tell him. I still thinkl for about 40 years Woody was making funny, thoughtful and often deeply nostalgic movies and that hits a sweet spot with me. This one doesn’t have Woody in it which is obviously for the best. I really love the idea in this how peoooe always feel like they just missed the best time to be alive. Our main character and author Owen Wilson feels like 1920s lost generation Paris was where he belonged and he missed out on something special. When he magically arrives there he finds people who are deeply unhappy to be alive when they are, longing for the Belle Époque of pre-war Paris. The movie is magical but it does get at something very fundamental about life and how we are always looking back, often to a time we never experienced, and idealizing it. Fascinating stuff and one of Woody’s best and least Woody movies.
 
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MIDNIGHT IN PARIS - 1PT
MARTYRS - 1PT


What a perfect pair to kick off the countdown - fantastic double feature! I am guessing you can guess which one is mine and which is 80s. ;)


To be clear going forward: when there are ties in points I post the movie in order of: movie on both of our lists - movie on 80s' list - my movie.
It wouldn’t be a movie list from me if I didn’t have a Woody Allen movie tacked on the very end. What can I say, he’s a creep but my dad grew up on his movies and humor and passed that a long to me. I’m not sure he even really know what’s happened with Woody and I don’t have the heart to tell him. I still thinkl for about 40 years Woody was making funny, thoughtful and often deeply nostalgic movies and that hits a sweet spot with me. This one doesn’t have Woody in it which is obviously for the best. I really love the idea in this how peoooe always feel like they just missed the best time to be alive. Our main character and author Owen Wilson feels like 1920s lost generation Paris was the best time to be alive and he missed out on something special. When he magically arrives there he finds people who are deeply unhappy to be alive when they are, longing for the Belle Époque of pre-war Paris. The movie is magical but I do then I gets at something very fundamental about life and how we are always looking back, often to a time we never experienced, and idealizing it. Fascinating stuff and one of Woody’s best and least Woody movies.
I loved this as well and I don't think it loses anything because of what we now know about him, because he's not in it and there are no scenarios that are uncomfortable to watch knowing who was behind the camera. It's a great feat of acting, storytelling and cinematography. I especially liked how the surrealists were the only ones who didn't think Wilson's character was crazy.
 
I was wrong, I thought Midnight in Paris was the KP one. Midnight in Paris was on my fantasy list.
90% of the horror will be me. 80s likes some, but not a main draw for him.
Yes for me horror is usually a question of "did I have fun?" but rarely does a horror movie ever leave a lasting impression or have me wanting to see it again. Most of the horror movies on this list, I probably haven't seen. Outside of October, it's not a genre I typically watch.
 
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