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Could you unpack what you mean by the bolded in the movie? I think most here have seen it.
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The Top 164 (166) Movies of the 21st Century. We have some morning drinking going on. (22 Viewers)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Before SPR, Spielberg's output just feels more artistic and what I would describe as "handmade".
After SPR, everything feels like it was generated by an algorithm and comes off an assembly line.
I don't doubt that he works his butt off and puts all his love of moviemaking into every project. But I think he is more interested in "hitting his marks" in the 2nd half of his career.
His nadir is the recent The Fabelmans.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Ready Player One is only bad if you want it to be like the book (The book is amazing). As a stand alone, it is good, but not great.I liked The Fablemans
I think his low points are pretty clearly 1984, Ready Player One, The BFG, The Terminal, Tin Tin and Crystal Skull.
The Crystal Skull does not exist. I refuse to acknowledge it as canon.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The beginning of the end was with Raiders. 
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I think the book had it as well, but the movie felt like it was more interested in the nostalgic nods to the 80s than it was telling a story. I thought the book was OK and the movie was bad. IMO Stranger Things started to feel that way for me which is why I stopped watching that as well.Ready Player One is only bad if you want it to be like the book (The book is amazing). As a stand alone, it is good, but not great.I liked The Fablemans
I think his low points are pretty clearly 1984, Ready Player One, The BFG, The Terminal, Tin Tin and Crystal Skull.
The Crystal Skull does not exist. I refuse to acknowledge it as canon.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
You make me want to repeatedly type, "All work and no play makes Andy a dull boy."The beginning of the end was with Raiders.
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Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
You know I am only 1/2 joking. The real answer is that lame kids movie E.T. as he got away from the gritty realism of Close Encounters.You make me want to repeatedly type, "All work and no play makes Andy a dull boy."The beginning of the end was with Raiders.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
REDRUM! REDRUM!You know I am only 1/2 joking. The real answer is that lame kids movie E.T. as he got away from the gritty realism of Close Encounters.You make me want to repeatedly type, "All work and no play makes Andy a dull boy."The beginning of the end was with Raiders.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
how so?
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
It's been almost 30 years since I saw it in the theaters. It was so bad that I never revisited it, so apologies if I can't recall the specifics of the badness.
The gorilla itself was completely unreal, even by 1990s standards. The production was campy. Maybe it plays better as camp, but it was sold as actual action-adventure.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ve never read the book or watched the movie but that was a universal criticism at the time by people who were fans of the book. I think the movie was also pretty much just considered bad in its own right, outside of the adaptation criticism.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I also love this movie and I could've sworn it was on my list----but it isn't. It should've been though.Maybe an odd ball choice for so high. There's no stars. It's directed by Bo Burnham but it's not really a comedy. The movie feels very real to the experience of kids today and how they deal with anxiety, the struggle to fit in, development of love interests, their parents, etc. It's a remarkable movie IMO and especially coming from Bo. I hope we see him write and direct more because he's quite talented. How is this for an endorsement on a teen movie, Molly Ringwald said "...it was the best film about adolescence I've seen in a long time. Maybe ever."#88: EIGHTH GRADE - 52PTS
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Ilov80s
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This is really on me for not having watched this again. I saw it when it came out but not under indeal circumstances. We had all been at the bar drinking, went back to a friends and he was like you got to see The Wrestler so he put it on but there were several people at his house, more drinks being poured, side conversations, I probably went out for a smoke or two. I remember thinking it was great but I was distracted to say the least.#87: THE WRESTLER - 53PTS
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Ilov80s
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I felt like most people here didn't care for this when it came out and said it's another Goodfellas, Casino, boring, etc. Yes it is another crime movie. Yes it has DeNiro and Pesci again. But it's so much more about aging and how quickly we are all forgotten. When Frank is in the nursing home and he talks to his nurse about how he knew Jimmy Hoffa and she doesn't even know who that is, it's such a powerful moment. The realization that everything you did in life was meaningless and is already being forgotten before you're even dead. The trilogy of those movies is perfect. Goodfellas is the young man's mob movie full of cocaine energy and bravado. Casino is a middle aged look. The focus is on settling down, going legit and escaping the chaos. The Irishman is the old man movie about what that life leaves you with in the end and the meaninglessness of it all.#86: THE IRISHMAN
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That said, the de-aging isn't great and you can't de-age movement. They move like old men even when they are supposed to be in their 30s. The scene where Frank beats the guy up and throws him through the glass window being just laugh out loud bad. I don't know how that got past Scorsese and into the film.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
the wrestler was good
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Sooo, how Dan watches all his movies?This is really on me for not having watched this again. I saw it when it came out but not under indeal circumstances. We had all been at the bar drinking, went back to a friends and he was like you got to see The Wrestler so he put it on but there were several people at his house, more drinks being poured, side conversations, I probably went out for a smoke or two. I remember thinking it was great but I was distracted to say the least.#87: THE WRESTLER - 53PTS
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BLOCKED_PUNT
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lots of nudity. Explains the 99% critic rating on RT
Dan Lambskin
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Sooo, how Dan watches all his movies?This is really on me for not having watched this again. I saw it when it came out but not under indeal circumstances. We had all been at the bar drinking, went back to a friends and he was like you got to see The Wrestler so he put it on but there were several people at his house, more drinks being poured, side conversations, I probably went out for a smoke or two. I remember thinking it was great but I was distracted to say the least.#87: THE WRESTLER - 53PTS
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That would be edibles, bourbon and my phone in my hand, although that’s more for Netflix shows
I try to put it down for movies unless it’s something stupid my wife picks like Night Swim
do need to add in stoppage every 30 minutes for a snack, let the dog out, more bourbon, kids fighting, etc
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I liked this one a lot. I think I spread the watch out over two sittings - I don't know if that helped, but it's long and I knew story-fatigue had a chance of creeping in if I tried to watch all at once.I felt like most people here didn't care for this when it came out and said it's another Goodfellas, Casino, boring, etc. Yes it is another crime movie. Yes it has DeNiro and Pesci again. But it's so much more about aging and how quickly we are all forgotten. When Frank is in the nursing home and he talks to his nurse about how he knew Jimmy Hoffa and she doesn't even know who that is, it's such a powerful moment. The realization that everything you did in life was meaningless and is already being forgotten before you're even dead. The trilogy of those movies is perfect. Goodfellas is the young man's mob movie full of cocaine energy and bravado. Casino is a middle aged look. The focus is on settling down, going legit and escaping the chaos. The Irishman is the old man movie about what that life leaves you with in the end and the meaninglessness of it all.#86: THE IRISHMAN
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That said, the de-aging isn't great and you can't de-age movement. They move like old men even when they are supposed to be in their 30s. The scene where Frank beats the guy up and throws him through the glass window being just laugh out loud bad. I don't know how that got past Scorsese and into the film.
Agree about the de-aging. I actually did laugh out loud when that scene you mention played.
I thought the performances were uniformly good (even Pacino didn't get on my nerves as much as usual).
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Is that the reason for Borat's high marks too?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It is very long. I saw something going around the internet about how you could break it into 3 episodes and it gave the time marker of where a logical stop/start point would be. I do think it's funny I hear people complain about 3 hours being too long to sit and watch a movie and then they tell me they binged 6 episodes of some new Netflix show in one sitting. But hey to each their own, 3 hours isn't always a time period people have to watch TV.I liked this one a lot. I think I spread the watch out over two sittings - I don't know if that helped, but it's long and I knew story-fatigue had a chance of creeping in if I tried to watch all at once.I felt like most people here didn't care for this when it came out and said it's another Goodfellas, Casino, boring, etc. Yes it is another crime movie. Yes it has DeNiro and Pesci again. But it's so much more about aging and how quickly we are all forgotten. When Frank is in the nursing home and he talks to his nurse about how he knew Jimmy Hoffa and she doesn't even know who that is, it's such a powerful moment. The realization that everything you did in life was meaningless and is already being forgotten before you're even dead. The trilogy of those movies is perfect. Goodfellas is the young man's mob movie full of cocaine energy and bravado. Casino is a middle aged look. The focus is on settling down, going legit and escaping the chaos. The Irishman is the old man movie about what that life leaves you with in the end and the meaninglessness of it all.#86: THE IRISHMAN
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That said, the de-aging isn't great and you can't de-age movement. They move like old men even when they are supposed to be in their 30s. The scene where Frank beats the guy up and throws him through the glass window being just laugh out loud bad. I don't know how that got past Scorsese and into the film.
Agree about the de-aging. I actually did laugh out loud when that scene you mention played.
I thought the performances were uniformly good (even Pacino didn't get on my nerves as much as usual).
As for that one awful scene, the answer was obvious. Just don't show any of the violence. The point of the scene isn't that he is being violent, it's that his daughter is seeing it, realizing what kind of monster her dad is and basically making a decision about how she is going to deal with him the rest of her life. All you need was good sound design for the fight and lock in on the face of the young actress watching it. More effective story telling and hammering what the scene is really meant to do without the arthritis kicks.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
gervais' oscar joke about the length of the irishman was great. The whole momolouge was good.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I can't do that anymore, either
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
probably
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Our next two movies coming up both have great soundtracks. I think each movie could instantly be recognized by their music. Both have organized crime and violence. But you aren't likely to ever think of them in the same breath. There's even an odd connection with an actor and both movies. While I think of it, both movies feature stars from the Golden Age of Hollywood who are 90+ years old and still with us today.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
We probably won't sit down together and watch my Bergman box set together, either.Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I can do some Bergman but some it's too dry for me. It's better than Antonioni though. I've tried and tried with him but it's tough.We probably won't sit down together and watch my Bergman box set together, either.Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I didn't say you would like the soundtrack from mine, but it's extremely recognizableI had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I watched L'Avventura.I can do some Bergman but some it's too dry for me. It's better than Antonioni though. I've tried and tried with him but it's tough.We probably won't sit down together and watch my Bergman box set together, either.Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ugh.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I didn't say you would like the soundtrack from mine, but it's extremely recognizableI had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Even the anti-musical me recognized a couple songs when I watched it last month or whenever I did my "music" theme week.I didn't say you would like the soundtrack from mine, but it's extremely recognizableI had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It can be, but then some of this comedies/romances catch me off guard. I think you might like something like Summers with Monika or Smiles of a Summer Night if you haven't seen those.I can do some Bergman but some it's too dry for me. It's better than Antonioni though. I've tried and tried with him but it's tough.We probably won't sit down together and watch my Bergman box set together, either.Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The initial set-up interesting about finding the missing woman but then it's like that just gets dropped and what we are doing the rest of the movie? His movies look so beautiful but they are tough to get through. My favorite is actually The Passenger with Jack Nicholson. I sort of liked Red Desert- I don't remember a single thing about it except the color, look of the movie. But yeah he's just not for me.I watched L'Avventura.I can do some Bergman but some it's too dry for me. It's better than Antonioni though. I've tried and tried with him but it's tough.We probably won't sit down together and watch my Bergman box set together, either.Since I have watched Stalker, this comment doesn't have me racing to finish Solaris.I liked Stalker a little more, but they are slow meditative movies.It's the only Tarkovsky movie I've seen and well let's just say I've been in no rush see to another.I've tried watching Solaris for the last three nights. I'm an hour into it.I can't do that anymore, either
Something about hearing German spoken backwards puts me to sleep I guess.
Ugh.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
MFing sharks on a plane??I didn't say you would like the soundtrack from mine, but it's extremely recognizableI had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Do movies from 2000 count?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Yes, we aren't weirdos.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
We have seen a couple from 2000, I believe. Traffic?
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
O! Brother and Guardians of the Galaxy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
To be clear - good movies from 2000 we included.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
O! Brother Where Art Thou is a good movie.
Guardians is...a movie that I enjoyed.
Guardians is...a movie that I enjoyed.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I have had it with these mother****ing sharks on this mother****ing plane!MFing sharks on a plane??I didn't say you would like the soundtrack from mine, but it's extremely recognizableI had to look it up and 100 % i would listen to at least 1 song from mine. Yours i threatened to switch, so no comment there.
Interesting collection of movies coming up and i am expecting some grumbling about one of mine.
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