Must be AL only because Carlos Marmol's @ 11 too and he's done it in only 54.2 innings.1 Joba Chamberlain NYY 112 A.J. Burnett NYY 9Interesting stat I saw
That's ok, we're used to you being wrong.oops you are right, good catch
Haha, well you got me there. Now I am curious about the most hit batsmen in a season. Off to baseballreference...That's ok, we're used to you being wrong.oops you are right, good catch
The Ghost of Common said:Joba is pretty much known at this point around most of the other big baseball cities as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky.Please tell me even the NY fans realize this?Shocking considering both are known for their pinpoint accuracy.
As for AJ Burnett, I have no idea. I've been to a lot of games in other cities this year but haven't heard anything about him being as hated.
Huh? He didnt hit Huff. Huff mimiced his fist pump. If you wanna call him a punk cuz of his fist pump thats one thing but he doesnt have the reputation as a headhunter unless your name is Kevin Youkilis.You said he likes to hit people when hes cranky. What do you mean by that? Do you mean he gets cranky by waking up on the wrong side of the bed one day? Or do you mean hes cranky because he is not pitching well in that game? Because I have clearly proven that most of his hit batsmen come in games he is pitching well which disproves your cranky point.The Ghost of Common said:I don't understand. You're answering my question by posting his stats from games where he's hit someone? It's like you're answering someone elses question.Your name is JOBARULES on a football message board. Take his rod out of your rear for a second.The Ghost of Common said:Joba is pretty much known at this point around most of the other big baseball cities as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky.Please tell me even the NY fans realize this?Shocking considering both are known for their pinpoint accuracy.
As for AJ Burnett, I have no idea. I've been to a lot of games in other cities this year but haven't heard anything about him being as hated.Where do you hear this nonsense? From Kevin Youkilis?Here is his game log
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...p;t=p&year=
In games where he's hit a batter he has an ERA of 2.85. In games where he hasn't hit a batter he has an ERA of 4.63.
Shall I post my ownage smilie or should somebody else??
You remember the whole Aubrey Huff/Joba incident earlier this year? That was Baltimore. This isn't just a Boston thing. Joba is not well liked, Joba leads the league in hits batsmen. Where is your ownage? lol. I'd call that premature ejaculation.
Yeah I guess technically the words headhunter didnt come out of your mouth. I guess you meant something else with this comment.as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky
What move are you talking about?I will admit this Yankee team seems to retaliate more than the Torre led teams.I thought Girardi pulled a bush league move in Spring Training before he coached his first game with Yanks...so it wouldn't surprise me if he was quick to ask his guys to send a message.How is he perceived in NY in that regard?
It is like beating your head against a pinstriped wall.The Ghost of Common said:So I just want to get this straight.I could give a #### less. I hate the Yankees, I hate the Red Sox. BOth have SOME of the most toolish fans I've ever encountered. I'm simply stuck living in Boston and my life is a living hell as a baseball fan.NY Yankee Fans>You do not think Joba is perceived as a bit of a punk around the league? Please answer.
His fist pump irritates alot of people and hes had some highly publicized press about beanballs vs Boston. But outside of Boston I didnt think he had a reputation as a punk maybe a bit arrogant.The Ghost of Common said:So I just want to get this straight.I could give a #### less. I hate the Yankees, I hate the Red Sox. BOth have SOME of the most toolish fans I've ever encountered. I'm simply stuck living in Boston and my life is a living hell as a baseball fan.NY Yankee Fans>You do not think Joba is perceived as a bit of a punk around the league? Please answer.
Again please explain what you mean here? When does he get cranky?The Ghost of Common said:I have a completely different definition of a headhunter dude. You need to stop jumping to conclusions. Hitting people in the hip, elbow, back which Joba does when he gets cranky, is not head hunting.Yeah I guess technically the words headhunter didnt come out of your mouth. I guess you meant something else with this comment.as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky
2 way different things, and I'm surprised you even made the jump like that.
The Ghost of Common said:Not sure what kind of explanation you're looking for. When is he cranky? Whenever he seems cranky I guess.Again please explain what you mean here? When does he get cranky?The Ghost of Common said:I have a completely different definition of a headhunter dude. You need to stop jumping to conclusions. Hitting people in the hip, elbow, back which Joba does when he gets cranky, is not head hunting.Yeah I guess technically the words headhunter didnt come out of your mouth. I guess you meant something else with this comment.as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky
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I watch MLB Network a lot. I dont remember any negative opinions about Joba. I guess Ill need to watch more often. I do know they have talked about the bullpen vs starter thing ad nauseum.The Ghost of Common said:I think if you got outside of NY, you'd find the perception to be much different.Do you watch MLB Network at all? For the most part unbiased guys who never have a kind thing to say about Joba. I believe after Joba made that diving catch 2 month ago and then spun around and yelled with his fists pumping Mitch Williams said over the clip "Punk". And it's no secret he's no fan of the Red Sox either.His fist pump irritates alot of people and hes had some highly publicized press about beanballs vs Boston. But outside of Boston I didnt think he had a reputation as a punk maybe a bit arrogant.The Ghost of Common said:So I just want to get this straight.I could give a #### less. I hate the Yankees, I hate the Red Sox. BOth have SOME of the most toolish fans I've ever encountered. I'm simply stuck living in Boston and my life is a living hell as a baseball fan.NY Yankee Fans>You do not think Joba is perceived as a bit of a punk around the league? Please answer.
The Ghost of Common said:I can't believe I wasted a half hour debating about if Joba is a punk or not with "JOBARULES"
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I gutta go guy.
The Ghost of Common said:So I just want to get this straight.
I could give a #### less. I hate the Yankees, I hate the Red Sox. BOth have SOME of the most toolish fans I've ever encountered. I'm simply stuck living in Boston and my life is a living hell as a baseball fan.
Sending the goon spikes first into a Japanese 2nd-basemen's chest, to retaliate for a 160-pound reserve outfielder trying to make the team injuring his catcher during a collision at home.What move are you talking about?I will admit this Yankee team seems to retaliate more than the Torre led teams.I thought Girardi pulled a bush league move in Spring Training before he coached his first game with Yanks...so it wouldn't surprise me if he was quick to ask his guys to send a message.How is he perceived in NY in that regard?
Sending the goon spikes first into a Japanese 2nd-basemen's chest, to retaliate for a 160-pound reserve outfielder trying to make the team injuring his catcher during a collision at home.What move are you talking about?I will admit this Yankee team seems to retaliate more than the Torre led teams.I thought Girardi pulled a bush league move in Spring Training before he coached his first game with Yanks...so it wouldn't surprise me if he was quick to ask his guys to send a message.How is he perceived in NY in that regard?
Sending the goon spikes first into a Japanese 2nd-basemen's chest, to retaliate for a 160-pound reserve outfielder trying to make the team injuring his catcher during a collision at home.What move are you talking about?I will admit this Yankee team seems to retaliate more than the Torre led teams.I thought Girardi pulled a bush league move in Spring Training before he coached his first game with Yanks...so it wouldn't surprise me if he was quick to ask his guys to send a message.How is he perceived in NY in that regard?the goon. Perfect description for Duncan. Not sure if that was Girardi's call or DUncan did it on his own but it wouldnt shock me if it was the manager's call & yes Id agree that's bush league.
I'm thrilled that the Yanks are finally getting a reputation as protectors of the hitters. In fact, I don't even mind so much when they are the instigators. Doesn't hurt to be known around the league as a team that won't take #### from anybody. Too often, the Mussinas and Pettittes of the team would fail to back up the big guys. I also blame Torre a lot for that. I had to laugh last night watching Baseball Tonight when John Kruk was talking about how he knows the Dodgers coaching staff and if someone had hit Manny, there'd have been retaliation. I was like, what the hell is this idiot talking about?!? Joe Torre NEVER retaliated from what I saw.
No. What we realize is his MAJOR effing issue is throwing 100+ pitches in 5 innings. Know why? He loses control and tries to get cute around the corners. This leads him to plunking people. He loses control.The Ghost of Common said:Joba is pretty much known at this point around most of the other big baseball cities as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky.Please tell me even the NY fans realize this?Shocking considering both are known for their pinpoint accuracy.
Fairly certain Burnett leads all of MLB in wild pitches. /argument.As for AJ Burnett, I have no idea. I've been to a lot of games in other cities this year but haven't heard anything about him being as hated.
About Mitch W, I hear ya...I mostly just wanted to use the opportunity to spew my hatred for him. Pretty sure from watching that he drives HR mad as well. How Reynolds deals with him, I have no idea.And I don't mind seeing Joba as a hated guy, the enemy. It's more fun to win when everyone else hates your guys anyway (86 Mets as a prime example...have any fans EVER had more fun rooting for a team than Met fans in the mid-80's?).The Ghost of Common said:To Michaels point. I'm actually Happy that Joba is such a punk. It's good for baseball to have such a polarizing figure on the leagues top team in my opinion. It gives us something to watch for, someone to root against, something to talk about. I like it. As far as Mitch Williams goes, that's neither here nor there was just making a point that it isn't just Sox fans that think Joba is a punk. I think Harold Reynolds at one point said something to agree with Mitch that night about Jobas rep but I honestly don't remember for sure.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I've read this whole thread thinking it was "joba drools".. which is WAAAAY more accurate.Yes, he is a classless punk. Right at home...The Ghost of Common said:I can't believe I wasted a half hour debating about if Joba is a punk or not with "JOBARULES"I gutta go guy.
Mods, please lock this thread. As you can see, the arguement has been ended.No. What we realize is his MAJOR effing issue is throwing 100+ pitches in 5 innings. Know why? He loses control and tries to get cute around the corners. This leads him to plunking people. He loses control.The Ghost of Common said:Joba is pretty much known at this point around most of the other big baseball cities as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky.Please tell me even the NY fans realize this?Shocking considering both are known for their pinpoint accuracy.Fairly certain Burnett leads all of MLB in wild pitches. /argument.As for AJ Burnett, I have no idea. I've been to a lot of games in other cities this year but haven't heard anything about him being as hated.
Wow, that is amazing.Must be AL only because Carlos Marmol's @ 11 too and he's done it in only 54.2 innings.
100% agreedJoba should just concentrate on walking less guys.
The reason Joba has bad games is because he's not pumped up enough. If he did fist pumps after every thrown strike than he'd be a hall of famer imo.
So he gets cranky when he's pitching well? WeirdThe Ghost of Common said:^^^Hitting a guy or not hitting a guy doesn't directly apply to pitching better or worse in a game. The two are not linked by any means. So no.You typically will plunk a guy when you're in NO trouble at all because it would be stupid to do so in a game where you are getting shelled.Joba Rules is actually making my point for me with those stats.
So then saying he hits guys when he's cranky is a dumb comment because according to you hes always cranky. You mightve well said he hits guys when hes white.The Ghost of Common said:He seems to be pretty cranky regardless of the situation. Guy needs some medication seriously.So he gets cranky when he's pitching well? WeirdThe Ghost of Common said:^^^Hitting a guy or not hitting a guy doesn't directly apply to pitching better or worse in a game. The two are not linked by any means. So no.You typically will plunk a guy when you're in NO trouble at all because it would be stupid to do so in a game where you are getting shelled.Joba Rules is actually making my point for me with those stats.
Seriously. You think they would've done it already.Sigh.If they let people like Jim11 slide, I suppose they have to let these mooks their time too.Bogart said:Mods, please lock this thread. As you can see, the arguement has been ended.No. What we realize is his MAJOR effing issue is throwing 100+ pitches in 5 innings. Know why? He loses control and tries to get cute around the corners. This leads him to plunking people. He loses control.The Ghost of Common said:Joba is pretty much known at this point around most of the other big baseball cities as a punk who likes to hit people when he gets cranky.Please tell me even the NY fans realize this?Shocking considering both are known for their pinpoint accuracy.Fairly certain Burnett leads all of MLB in wild pitches. /argument.As for AJ Burnett, I have no idea. I've been to a lot of games in other cities this year but haven't heard anything about him being as hated.