The use of Back Up Players (1 Viewer)

[themightyboosh]

One thing I am thinking of for our league is a back up player. The way I am thinking about it is like this:::

• Owner submits his lineup.

• Owner selects 1 back up player, could be any number actually but I was thinking of just one

• After owner selects the back up they must inform the commish as to whom the player is backing up

• If the starting player scores 0 points, the back up player is inserted in te line up and scores changed accordingly.

Does anyone else do this? Does this sound crazy/ stupid/ good etc?

Please give me your thoughts.

 

[Zoomanji]

You could just let all the teams set their line-ups the following Tuesday.

 

[BLOX]

We do something like this in one of my leagues.

However, if the player you start, starts the game for one snap he is locked in your roster. If he's scratched before the game, you can put your preselected backup in.

It's a good system, especially when you have a questionable guy who you want in your lineup but he doesn't play until Monday night or whatever.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Does your league have a source that it uses to tell if a player was in the game for one ir two snaps?

 

[dirk diggler]

One thing I am thinking of for our league is a back up player. The way I am thinking about it is like this:::• Owner submits his lineup.• Owner selects 1 back up player, could be any number actually but I was thinking of just one• After owner selects the back up they must inform the commish as to whom the player is backing up• If the starting player scores 0 points, the back up player is inserted in te line up and scores changed accordingly.Does anyone else do this? Does this sound crazy/ stupid/ good etc?Please give me your thoughts.

We do something like this in my league as a homefield advantage. Each week the home team can submit one substitute player and must specify who they will be subbing for. The player with the highest point total of the two ends up in the final starting lineup that week. It works out pretty well and doesn't actually impact the final outcome of games very often. It definately enhances the homefield advantage and really makes the owners aware of when they are playing at home. As commish it is kind of a pain to manually change lineups each week, but the added intensity at the end of the season when teams are fighting for homefield advantage iin the playoffs is worth the extra few minutes each week.

 

[mike11162]

I do this in one of my keeper leagues. We name a 10 man starting lineup, then 4 backups. If a backup outscores a starter and fits in the available lineup configurations, he's subbed in as part of your starting lineup after the games are complete. If you don't have to use any backups, you get a small bonus added to your score.

Some will say this dumbs it down, that you don't have to make any hard decisions, but it's not really true. Everyone has the same advantage, so it's still just as competitive as any other league. You still have to play enough of your best players to win. The real advantages of this type of system are that you get to root for more players, teams with good depth get to exploit it more easily (and thus are rewarded for it more than conventional leagues), and RBBC situations are more manageable (provided you get all components of that RBBC on your roster), since most RB situations in the league are now going this route.

Not everyone will like this format, but those who've played in my league tell me they love the system. The league's always competitive. If you are adept at hitting big on your sleepers, you will almost surely dominate. For the self-proclaimed sharks who like to boast how well they draft, this is an enticement for the format in itself.

 

[themightyboosh]

Does your league have a source that it uses to tell if a player was in the game for one ir two snaps?

No, the use of this type of back up would ONLY if a player is a game time decision and DOES NOT play, at all. If he plays and scores ZERO points, oh well.

 

[Sweet Love]

Does your league have a source that it uses to tell if a player was in the game for one ir two snaps?

No, the use of this type of back up would ONLY if a player is a game time decision and DOES NOT play, at all. If he plays and scores ZERO points, oh well.

I have a league that does this and honestly it has grown on me. One less thing to worry about and with the Injury report being massaged by coaches to their advantage, sometimes it is impossible to really know who is or is not going to play.

 

[rawdog]

We've been doing this for 10 years now, ever since an owner on Sunday at 12:45 had to decide whteher to go with Bledsoe or Zolak when the Pats were playing on Monday night. Every owner can "stip" 3 players in their lineup with a backup. If they don't play, you get the backup inserted trero.

It's a lifesaver and really frees up your Sunday morning.

NFL.com Gamebook has who's in for every snap.

I only wish there was a hosting service who offered this option and put the players in automatically.

 

[benbadman]

I only wish there was a hosting service who offered this option and put the players in automatically.

Personally I agree with the poster above who wrote "just submit your lineups on Tuesday" , as I think picking your FF lineup is an important element of the game/season.BUT...if you guys are in leagues that use backup, why not just go and be a "best ball" league that your best starting lineup is selected. I think MyFantasyLeague.com (MFL) supports this type of lineup. Naturally, drafting strategy and roster management are a little different when its best ball vs traditional submit your best guess at a lineup.

 

[obxlegends]

One thing I am thinking of for our league is a back up player. The way I am thinking about it is like this:::• Owner submits his lineup.• Owner selects 1 back up player, could be any number actually but I was thinking of just one• After owner selects the back up they must inform the commish as to whom the player is backing up• If the starting player scores 0 points, the back up player is inserted in te line up and scores changed accordingly.Does anyone else do this? Does this sound crazy/ stupid/ good etc?Please give me your thoughts.

We do this for the QB and RB positions only. However, we base it on the number of touches/attemps. It's basically to allow for switches due to injury and not so much ineffectiveness. You must also post your contingent "emergency" replacements before that week's games.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Does your league have a source that it uses to tell if a player was in the game for one ir two snaps?

No, the use of this type of back up would ONLY if a player is a game time decision and DOES NOT play, at all. If he plays and scores ZERO points, oh well.

That's my point. How do you know if that happens? There are sometimes scenarios where a player will be in for a snap or two, not make a catch or do anything that shows up in a box score, decides he can't go or "re-tweaks" the injury soon after the game starts and sits out. How do you find out he was on the field those 1-2 plays?

 

[nysfl2]

Does your league have a source that it uses to tell if a player was in the game for one ir two snaps?

No, the use of this type of back up would ONLY if a player is a game time decision and DOES NOT play, at all. If he plays and scores ZERO points, oh well.

That's my point. How do you know if that happens? There are sometimes scenarios where a player will be in for a snap or two, not make a catch or do anything that shows up in a box score, decides he can't go or "re-tweaks" the injury soon after the game starts and sits out. How do you find out he was on the field those 1-2 plays?

NFL.com Gamebook lists everyone who was on the field for any play in the game, so this isn't a problem. I play in a league that you can do this for any number of players, and I definitely prefer it. You don't have to worry about how honest coaches are about the injury status of a guy, and you can actually do something Sunday morning before the games other than constantly running to the Shark Pool to see if someone is expected to play in the 4:00 game.

 

[kethnaab]

I've done this in a league before and I like it. Last year I was in a league where I couldn't get home in time to get Andre Hall in as the starter for a game that Selvin Young was originally listed as the starter, and Hall blew up. I wanted to get him in, but I was with my family out at breakfast and couldn't get back in time to make the change as the game had just started

that one single screwup kept me out of the playoffs despite me scoring the most points in my league and having the highest score every week from that week on through week 16

 

[renesauz]

I only wish there was a hosting service who offered this option and put the players in automatically.

Personally I agree with the poster above who wrote "just submit your lineups on Tuesday" , as I think picking your FF lineup is an important element of the game/season.BUT...if you guys are in leagues that use backup, why not just go and be a "best ball" league that your best starting lineup is selected. I think MyFantasyLeague.com (MFL) supports this type of lineup. Naturally, drafting strategy and roster management are a little different when its best ball vs traditional submit your best guess at a lineup.

You've missed the point of the argument, very badly.This is not meant to substitute for decision making, but to gaurd against last second scratches, and the INHERANT unfairness of having your "questionable" stud player playing on Monday night. The backup player only goes in if there's a scratch, if the starter doesn't play at all. It also negates the disadvantage presented to guys who work on Sunday, or who go to church, or who partied late on a Saturday night on the left coast. It's unrealistic, and unfair, to give an advantage to those who are able to watch ESPN for 3 hours Sunday morning.

Having the ability to name a backup to a crucial player is more then fair...it makes far more sense then the traditional method. This is very VERY different from the best ball leagues.

If you can't tell, I've been an advocate of these types of systems for years.