The Wheelhouse list of WR sleepers (1 Viewer)

[Wheelhouse]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

2. Roscoe Parrish, BUF. Again, the Bills WR corps is also up in the air. It's Evans and then who? Peerless Price? Andre Davis? I'm thinking it actually could be Parrish. The NFL is a copycat league and if Steve Smith can pioneer a new breed of WR, why can't Roscoe Parrish follow suit? Parrish is 5'9, 170, Steve Smith is 5'9, 179. Smith's 2nd year at carolina - 54 rec, 872 yd, 3 TD. Parrish can do that - this year. Look out.

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.



4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

5. Antonio Bryant, SF Maybe not exactly a sleeper, but I think he will see loads of targets, especially with the following: Arnaz Battle's knee ailments and Vernon Davis' looking green with the new offense. He may not be an end zone mainstay, but he will be as much a part of that offense than maybe any other player.

6. Jericho Cotchery, NYJ As much as I like McCareins' work ethic, Cothery is just a better receiver. He can be used anywhere on the field, not just the sidelines. he can burn you with his speed, but also deceive you with his moves. This is his make or break year and I think he's going to make the best of it.

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC Also not really that much of a sleeper, but I see him making a BIG splash this year. Not only did he have 7 TD's last season, but he had at least 1 catch in every game, including 12 games of 2 or more catches. At 6'4, 223, he is going to be a dominant force for the Jaguars offense this year. I honestly see him reaching the 65+ rec mark and 900-1000 yards with at least 6-8 TD's.

 

[Joe T]

Good post Wheelhouse.

I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

 

[Bri]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

2. Roscoe Parrish, BUF. Again, the Bills WR corps is also up in the air. It's Evans and then who? Peerless Price? Andre Davis? I'm thinking it actually could be Parrish. The NFL is a copycat league and if Steve Smith can pioneer a new breed of WR, why can't Roscoe Parrish follow suit? Parrish is 5'9, 170, Steve Smith is 5'9, 179. Smith's 2nd year at carolina - 54 rec, 872 yd, 3 TD. Parrish can do that - this year. Look out.

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.



4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

5. Antonio Bryant, SF Maybe not exactly a sleeper, but I think he will see loads of targets, especially with the following: Arnaz Battle's knee ailments and Vernon Davis' looking green with the new offense. He may not be an end zone mainstay, but he will be as much a part of that offense than maybe any other player.

6. Jericho Cotchery, NYJ As much as I like McCareins' work ethic, Cothery is just a better receiver. He can be used anywhere on the field, not just the sidelines. he can burn you with his speed, but also deceive you with his moves. This is his make or break year and I think he's going to make the best of it.

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC Also not really that much of a sleeper, but I see him making a BIG splash this year. Not only did he have 7 TD's last season, but he had at least 1 catch in every game, including 12 games of 2 or more catches. At 6'4, 223, he is going to be a dominant force for the Jaguars offense this year. I honestly see him reaching the 65+ rec mark and 900-1000 yards with at least 6-8 TD's.

this list is without tons of cool stats I never knew (sorry, expectations )but it's a nice post and thanks for sharing

 

[dudaman]

4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

I agree with this list, except possibly Holmes. I am in need of some good young WR's in my dynasty league and will be picking 11th in an upcoming college/supplmental draft - and Holmes is definitely on the short list. But this guy's record with the law already stinks and has me worried.If I could add what I perceive to be a sleeper: Donte Stallworth....many projections have him at 65-950-5 or something along thos lines. I believe that he has soime serious upside to the tune of 85-1200-8, making him a sleeper and a good value for where you can land him.

Thanks.

 

[Beaumont]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

I am exactly the opposite. I love Bryant as a value pick and the others do little for me ...

 

[Defending Champs]

I've been looking at Sammie Parker as well.

His stats seem to gravitate towards the third year breakout candidate. I am sure there are a handful of guys you can throw in there, but few are given the opportunity.

I currently have Wilford just ahead of Parker for the same reason.

Any thoughts on Parker?

 

[H.K.]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

 

[joffer]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

from another thread

Roy Williams and Corey Bradford are the starting receivers on the depth chart released by the team for Friday night's exhibition game against Denver. No surprise there. They have been the No. 1 tandem from the start of the offseason workouts.

The surprise comes further down. Mike Williams and Charles Rogers, former first-round draft picks, are listed with the third group. Ahead of them with the second group are Glenn Martinez and Mike Furrey.

will he even make the team?

 

[Boone22]

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.

I thought they were toying with the idea of moving Stovall to TE. Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, BUT no concern that Boston will step in with a Galloway or Clayton injury as opposed to Stovall?

 

[wannabee]

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.

I thought they were toying with the idea of moving Stovall to TE. Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, BUT no concern that Boston will step in with a Galloway or Clayton injury as opposed to Stovall?

The possible move to TE is true, as is Stovall disappointing so far

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I like the Stovall pick. Representing my high school

That said I like Keary Colbert to have some value. Word is he's looking like his 2004 version rather than the 2005. If that's true he could be looking at 60 rec, 800 yards and 6 or 7 TDs. That's assuming he beats out Johnson of course.

 

[The Jerk]

4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

I agree with this list, except possibly Holmes. I am in need of some good young WR's in my dynasty league and will be picking 11th in an upcoming college/supplmental draft - and Holmes is definitely on the short list. But this guy's record with the law already stinks and has me worried.If I could add what I perceive to be a sleeper: Donte Stallworth....many projections have him at 65-950-5 or something along thos lines. I believe that he has soime serious upside to the tune of 85-1200-8, making him a sleeper and a good value for where you can land him.

Thanks.

Add to this that Willie Reid (3rd round WR) has looked better than Holmes so far this preseason. One Steeler media member stated that he has looked as fast or faster than Willie Parker. At least for this season, Reid figures to have every bit as much of a chance as Holmes to get opportunities. They very well could split their touches in half, rendering both non-factors.

 

[wannabee]

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.

I thought they were toying with the idea of moving Stovall to TE. Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, BUT no concern that Boston will step in with a Galloway or Clayton injury as opposed to Stovall?

The possible move to TE is true, as is Stovall disappointing so far

Here is the link to support the above: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...aurice++stovall

 

[Rovers]

I like the Cotchery pick, but, um.... where did you get that McCariens' work ethic tidbit from? The guy was PUP'd because he failed the TC physical.... reported out of shape. Not only that, he gave up on catchable balls last year. My guess is Cotchery beats him out for the #2 WR spot this year.

 

[MLBrandow]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

2. Roscoe Parrish, BUF. Again, the Bills WR corps is also up in the air. It's Evans and then who? Peerless Price? Andre Davis? I'm thinking it actually could be Parrish. The NFL is a copycat league and if Steve Smith can pioneer a new breed of WR, why can't Roscoe Parrish follow suit? Parrish is 5'9, 170, Steve Smith is 5'9, 179. Smith's 2nd year at carolina - 54 rec, 872 yd, 3 TD. Parrish can do that - this year. Look out.

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.



4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

5. Antonio Bryant, SF Maybe not exactly a sleeper, but I think he will see loads of targets, especially with the following: Arnaz Battle's knee ailments and Vernon Davis' looking green with the new offense. He may not be an end zone mainstay, but he will be as much a part of that offense than maybe any other player.

6. Jericho Cotchery, NYJ As much as I like McCareins' work ethic, Cothery is just a better receiver. He can be used anywhere on the field, not just the sidelines. he can burn you with his speed, but also deceive you with his moves. This is his make or break year and I think he's going to make the best of it.

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC Also not really that much of a sleeper, but I see him making a BIG splash this year. Not only did he have 7 TD's last season, but he had at least 1 catch in every game, including 12 games of 2 or more catches. At 6'4, 223, he is going to be a dominant force for the Jaguars offense this year. I honestly see him reaching the 65+ rec mark and 900-1000 yards with at least 6-8 TD's.

My opinions:1) Longshot, but who knows. I have not seen much, but fail to believe that Williams/Rogers, with all their talent, manage to fall below Scottie Vines. I realize it is unrealized talent, but still. Martz is one of the best OCs in the league, and he'll be able to utilize it if they are salvagable. IMO they still are, Rogers moreso than Williams.

2) I believe Parrish is the WR2 this year, and I like him a lot to do close to what you speculate. Low ceiling, but great value for ADP in really deep redrafts.

3) Stovall is currently 5th on the depth chart and is very, very unlikely to progress beyond that until next year. Clayton/Galloway/Boston are 1, 2, 3 with Hilliard at 4 and Stovall at 5. Mark Jones fills out the roster as PR/KR. They may opt to keep 7, but I see Shepherd as a lost cause. In any event, his value is in dynasty leagues, because Galloway and Hilliard are both gone after this year, and if Boston doesn't pan out (Bucs homer speaking, but from TC, I think he will), Stovall is slated to be No.2 next year, 3 at worst. Bad redraft sleeper pick. Great dynasty sleeper pick.

4) Holmes has had some troubles, but I believe he will be fine. I also like him as WR2 this year, and think it's a great value pick.

5) I don't consider Bryant a sleeper, at least not on the level of these other guys. He's very likely to be gobbled up before all of these guys, and definitely the WR1 target for Smith. That said, I expect Johnson, Davis to be his 2/3, so if for some reason he acts up and doesn't hold onto the WR1 job, he'll be pretty worthless on a team that might pass for 2300 yards.

6) I think he will be WR1 this year in NYJ. I am pretty sure the McCareins work ethic reference was a joke, and if so, pretty funny. He showed up to camp in such terrible shape that Mangini put him on the PUP list. That leaves Cotchery to beat out a bunch of nobodies to be the No.2 guy, and IMO Coles is washed up. Look for a nice surprise from this guy.

7) Wilford is starting at WR2 for the Jags, but I'm not sure that matters. He'll likely be 3rd or 4th on the reads list, and I see Jones/Lewis hogging most of the receptions. Of course, Leftwich was on his way to put him fantastic numbers last year (a la McNair's '03 MVP season) before his injury, and they'd have been even better if Wilford didn't drop every other catchable ball that came to him. That he won the job tells me one of two things: either he's catching a lot more balls, or Reggie Williams sucks that much. I'm leaning toward the former, but it's more of a "by default" than getting excited. Wilford should see solid numbers this year as the third option for JAX, but there is no way he comes close to what you're predicting. Buyer beware, as he's becoming too popular of a sleeper for my taste.

 

[CrossEyed]

From what I'm hearing around here, I have to disagree with Holmes. He has not looked that good in camp and right now isn't even the #3 WR. That will probably be a little known guy drafted out of Tiffin named Nate Washington. He got hurt last year and spent the year on the practice squad, but did get a chance to play in the post-season. He has been drawing rave reviews in camp so far. I'm not saying that he'll have a better career than Holmes, but he might be the better choice for this year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

from another thread

Roy Williams and Corey Bradford are the starting receivers on the depth chart released by the team for Friday night's exhibition game against Denver. No surprise there. They have been the No. 1 tandem from the start of the offseason workouts.

The surprise comes further down. Mike Williams and Charles Rogers, former first-round draft picks, are listed with the third group. Ahead of them with the second group are Glenn Martinez and Mike Furrey.

will he even make the team?

It seems Vines is the forgotten man in the new system. It's been awfully quite around town regarding him.

 

[Slinger]

I like the Stovall pick. Representing my high school That said I like Keary Colbert to have some value. Word is he's looking like his 2004 version rather than the 2005. If that's true he could be looking at 60 rec, 800 yards and 6 or 7 TDs. That's assuming he beats out Johnson of course.

Colbert's only hope this year is for KJ or SS to get hurt this year.

 

[EBF]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

Word on the street is that Bryant and Smith are connecting big time in training camp. Bryant is supposedly playing hard and looking very good.

 

[The Jerk]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

Word on the street is that Bryant and Smith are connecting big time in training camp. Bryant is supposedly playing hard and looking very good.

Although aren't they passing against the SF defense? My sisters would look decent against that secondary.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

Word on the street is that Bryant and Smith are connecting big time in training camp. Bryant is supposedly playing hard and looking very good.

It was also written up in the Sports Weekly that came out today.

 

[joffer]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

Word on the street is that Bryant and Smith are connecting big time in training camp. Bryant is supposedly playing hard and looking very good.

Although aren't they passing against the SF defense? My sisters would look decent against that secondary.

in before reference

 

[mbuehner]

1. Scottie Vines: he will probably be useful in a few games this year, but which ones? Only worth having in deeper leagues with many roster spots

2. Roscoe Parrish: whoever ends up throwing the ball in Buffalo isnt going to be very good. There are only so many completions to go around and Evans will eat those up. Waver wire fodder, let somebody else burn a spot.

3. Maurice Stovall, TB: Interesting and will see great value if Galloway or Clayton go down, but there just arent enough FPs to go around in this pass offense. Again, only worth a shot if you have slots to burn.

4. Santonio Holmes, PIT: If the value is there, he's worth a spot, but I dont think he'll be around when I feel comfy taking him. This is the Hines Ward, Heath Miller show in the redzone. If I recall they had virtually every redzone target last season (might have been literally every one).

5. Antonio Bryant, SF: Same problem, gonna be drafted too high. Arnez Battle is still in the picture to eat into what few FPs this pass attack will provide.

6. Jericho Cotchery, NYJ: I like this pick better. You can have Cotchery off the waiver wire so he costs zip, but he will provide some numbers even if he doesnt pan out. This offense is going to have to pass _a lot_, Coles is a shell of himself, and Pennington can get the ball to the open man. i like the value of all the NYJ recievers where they are being drafted, but Cotchery has some real upside. Low cost, high reward, and worst case still produces a little something. Thats what i love in a sleeper.

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC: I think he's a good value pick, but i dont have him as much of a sleeper candidate to explode. A lot of targets in this offense that we dont know much about. I'd be hesitant to invest too much in any of them until we see how the jags gel.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Parrish could put up decent numbers in the #3 spot, but I'd be surprised if he beats out Price for the #2 spot. Price has looked good so far from all the reports I've read. Parrish has made some awesome plays and he's a definite big play threat, but I think that Price's experience will end up giving him the job.

 

[Cleat Spike]

Would you rather take a stab at Bryant or Edwards in the 10th or 11th round. I see these guys have similar ADP's right now? 10.11 and 11.01

Would you rather go for the better talent coming off an injury, but looking more and more like he'll play opening day (Frye sounds like he's struggling a bit too?) or take the guy not coming off injury with a 1,000 yard season under his belt from last year (QB/Team could be a concern there too?).

Edwards is only going to rise in ADP as the preseason goes on and he shows he'll be back sooner, but it seems Bryant can be had much later? I know a few guys in my league are eating up the Edwards hype and hoping they'll strike oil.

Can't deny BE's talent but all these reports about Frye are concerning while the Bryant/Smith camp seems to be one with each other and connecting?

Just thought I'd add this since these 2 specific players have similar ADP's now and you're classifying AB as a sleeper....

I'd love to land Edwards but someone is going to reach for him, I'll stick to Bryant later I think.

 

[Rovers]

For the folks predicting Coles being washed up... he isn't the WR he once was, but is still going to pull down 75 passes this year. Trust me one this one.... I've been to 6 training camp practices. My prediction is Cotchery beats out McCariens, Dwight is the slot reciever. I also would not be surprised to see the Jets attempt to include McCariens in a deal for an RB. Mangini does NOT like this guy.

 

[EBF]

Some stuff on Bryant:

http://49ers.scout.com/2/553314.html

And a quote from today's SF Chronicle:

When Scot (McCloughan) called me, I said, 'You're crazy if you don't sign him. I will stake my entire reputation on this guy.'

 

[The Jerk]

Some stuff on Bryant:

http://49ers.scout.com/2/553314.html

And a quote from today's SF Chronicle:

When Scot (McCloughan) called me, I said, 'You're crazy if you don't sign him. I will stake my entire reputation on this guy.'

So I'm clear...Bryant is very talented. I saw him play sensationally right here in Pittsburgh for the Panthers. He was the best receiver Pitt has had in a long time until Larry Fitzgerald showed up.

But Alex Smith... :X

And until Bryant shows he can act mature for multiple seasons, it will still be a question.

 

[#@%&$!?]

I'd like to add: whomever ends up opposite Driver in Green Bay this year should be a good value/sleeper pick.

 

[Cleat Spike]

I'd like to add: whomever ends up opposite Driver in Green Bay this year should be a good value/sleeper pick.

From Draft Sharks today.....One of our Packers correspondents attended their training camp and zipped us some notes last night:***************--QBs: Favre '06 will make us all wish for Favre '05. It's that bad. The O-line is porous, the TEs are average, the RBs are hurt, and if a defense doubles Donald Driver, Favre throws 39 INTs this year. His job in GB is secure for many reasons, but after watching Aaron Rodgers, 39 INTs doesn't sound all that bad. --RBs: It's going to be a RBBC by default. Gado is running hard, Green is running, but everyone "gasped" when he hit the deck in non-contact drills on Monday, his first day back. Herron has some ability, but not behind this O-line, and probably not this season. Davenport still has injury issues. These guys play Chicago on opening day, and I'm guessing that's how long Ahman Green plays this year. --WRs: A wacky WRBC is taking shape according to the locals I chatted with, and from what I saw. Driver, great! Ferguson, not so much. Rookie Jennings is smooth (really smooth), Gardner practices well (doesn't he always?!) and Marc Boerigter is, well...tall.TEs: Bubba is hurting, not running full out, and getting up very gingerly. Maybe a change in the works there....--More on Aaron Rodgers...It's obvious why this kid slipped in the draft--he should've kept slipping. In two entire practices, I saw one ball delivered on time and on the money. Many went completely untouched by the receiver. The fans were laughing openly. "Get ready, here comes Rodgers again..." Ouch! Granted, I saw fewer than 60 passes, but I'm guessing Billy Cundiff plays QB on this team before Aaron Rodgers does.This sounds like a mess on turf. I'm questioniong even targeting Driver anymore? Hopefully Favre can turn it around, but it sure does sound like they'll be throwing a lot?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I like the Stovall pick. Representing my high school That said I like Keary Colbert to have some value. Word is he's looking like his 2004 version rather than the 2005. If that's true he could be looking at 60 rec, 800 yards and 6 or 7 TDs. That's assuming he beats out Johnson of course.

Colbert's only hope this year is for KJ or SS to get hurt this year.

I'vebeen hearing some buzz about Colbert possibly beating out Johnson, as Colbert has been looking good and Johnson only average. I havent heard an update on this in a little while though.

 

[The Jerk]

I'm guessing Billy Cundiff plays QB on this team before Aaron Rodgers does.

So how far does Cundiff move up your PK rankings then?

 

[EBF]

--More on Aaron Rodgers...It's obvious why this kid slipped in the draft--he should've kept slipping. In two entire practices, I saw one ball delivered on time and on the money. Many went completely untouched by the receiver. The fans were laughing openly. "Get ready, here comes Rodgers again..." Ouch! Granted, I saw fewer than 60 passes, but I'm guessing Billy Cundiff plays QB on this team before Aaron Rodgers does.

Ouch.

 

[fsufan]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

I am exactly the opposite. I love Bryant as a value pick and the others do little for me ...

Everyone has been saying Bryant will be a value pick for 3 years now. I do not think he has any FF value especially playing for the 49ers

 

[The Jerk]

Good post Wheelhouse.I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

I am exactly the opposite. I love Bryant as a value pick and the others do little for me ...

Everyone has been saying Bryant will be a value pick for 3 years now. I do not think he has any FF value especially playing for the 49ers

I think at some point, just about everyone has value. I'm with you on having low expectations for Bryant, but you could do worse 40-50 WRs into a draft.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

--More on Aaron Rodgers...It's obvious why this kid slipped in the draft--he should've kept slipping. In two entire practices, I saw one ball delivered on time and on the money. Many went completely untouched by the receiver. The fans were laughing openly. "Get ready, here comes Rodgers again..." Ouch! Granted, I saw fewer than 60 passes, but I'm guessing Billy Cundiff plays QB on this team before Aaron Rodgers does.

Ouch.

Go Ingle Martin!

 

[Bcubed2355]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

2. Roscoe Parrish, BUF. Again, the Bills WR corps is also up in the air. It's Evans and then who? Peerless Price? Andre Davis? I'm thinking it actually could be Parrish. The NFL is a copycat league and if Steve Smith can pioneer a new breed of WR, why can't Roscoe Parrish follow suit? Parrish is 5'9, 170, Steve Smith is 5'9, 179. Smith's 2nd year at carolina - 54 rec, 872 yd, 3 TD. Parrish can do that - this year. Look out.

3. Maurice Stovall, TB - In the event something happens to Galloway or Clayton, Stovall will be waiting in the wings. He may even get some PT with the 3-WR sets early on. The guy is 6'5 and knows how to catch the ball. He shined at Notre Dame and likely will in the NFL, once he's given the chance. He's a practice nut and has his head in the game. Those guys usually succeed, especially if they have the talent and the body to play the game.



4. Santonio Holmes, PIT The fact that the Steelers moved up 7 spots to get this guy says a lot. The only person ahead of him to join Hines Ward on the first team is Cedrick Wilson. If Santonio can keep his head in the game and his eyes on the prize (starting), I don't see how this guy's talent won't be in the starting lineup. Holmes is only 5'11, but Wilson is only 5'10.

5. Antonio Bryant, SF Maybe not exactly a sleeper, but I think he will see loads of targets, especially with the following: Arnaz Battle's knee ailments and Vernon Davis' looking green with the new offense. He may not be an end zone mainstay, but he will be as much a part of that offense than maybe any other player.

6. Jericho Cotchery, NYJ As much as I like McCareins' work ethic, Cothery is just a better receiver. He can be used anywhere on the field, not just the sidelines. he can burn you with his speed, but also deceive you with his moves. This is his make or break year and I think he's going to make the best of it.

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC Also not really that much of a sleeper, but I see him making a BIG splash this year. Not only did he have 7 TD's last season, but he had at least 1 catch in every game, including 12 games of 2 or more catches. At 6'4, 223, he is going to be a dominant force for the Jaguars offense this year. I honestly see him reaching the 65+ rec mark and 900-1000 yards with at least 6-8 TD's.

I would add the undraft FA that the Eagles traded for to that list of sleepers - Basket

 

[aposulli]

My word is far from gospel, but for some reason I think these players have a shot at contributing this year... (in no order whatsoever)

1. Scottie Vines, DET. 40 recs last year. The guy had 6 games of 4 recs or more last year. With Detroit's WR's corps up in the air, I don't see why this guy, who takes his job seriously, can't be a Kevin Curtis Lite in 2006?

7. Ernest Wilford, JAC Also not really that much of a sleeper, but I see him making a BIG splash this year. Not only did he have 7 TD's last season, but he had at least 1 catch in every game, including 12 games of 2 or more catches. At 6'4, 223, he is going to be a dominant force for the Jaguars offense this year. I honestly see him reaching the 65+ rec mark and 900-1000 yards with at least 6-8 TD's.

Vines did look pretty good toward the end of last year.

But with THIS news, I question why you wouldn't like Bradford over Vines. It's not like Bradford's getting drafted anywhere close to what could be considered high. I would pick him 3 Rounds above his ADP and have no qualms about it.

I've been happily drafting Wilford as my WR6-7 in leagues so far this year.

 

[H.K.]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

The same guy who's paying at the game this Saturday?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

The same guy who's paying at the game this Saturday?

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

Good post Wheelhouse.

I don't like the Antonio Bryant pick, but the rest are at least mildly interesting as sleeper candidates. Good info.

Word on the street is that Bryant and Smith are connecting big time in training camp. Bryant is supposedly playing hard and looking very good.

Although aren't they passing against the SF defense? My sisters would look decent against that secondary.

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[mbuehner]

For the folks predicting Coles being washed up... he isn't the WR he once was, but is still going to pull down 75 passes this year

Sadly it will only be for 700 yards and 2 tds.

 

[Z-Dog]

For the folks predicting Coles being washed up... he isn't the WR he once was, but is still going to pull down 75 passes this year. Trust me one this one.... I've been to 6 training camp practices. My prediction is Cotchery beats out McCariens, Dwight is the slot reciever. I also would not be surprised to see the Jets attempt to include McCariens in a deal for an RB. Mangini does NOT like this guy.

I wonder if they could ship McCareins back to TENN as part of a deal for Brown. Probably on par with my dreams of including Jolley in a deal for Porter. That Bradway made some awful trades.Anyway, jsut ot stand up for McCareins, he was tough, played through injury, and always had a good work ethic. He just never put all his pieces together as a full-time starter, and now he got off on the wrong foot with the coaching staff. He was PUP'd for all of one day, more a wake-up call than him showing up grossly out-of-shape. he definitely doesn't look out of shape in camp.

 

[Rovers]

For the folks predicting Coles being washed up... he isn't the WR he once was, but is still going to pull down 75 passes this year

Sadly it will only be for 700 yards and 2 tds.

If you are right, then the Jets will only have a team total of 1800 yards and 6 reciveing TD's in the passing game. Needless to say, you are wrong.

 

[Wheelhouse]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

And I still have 7 Miller Lite cans in my fridge. Sure Mrs. H.K. can drink 6 herself.

 

[H.K.]

FWIW, I had beers with Wheelhouse few weeks ago, he's good people

Who paid for said beers?

And I still have 7 Miller Lite cans in my fridge. Sure Mrs. H.K. can drink 6 herself.

We were on the deck drinking bottles, we didn't even know the cans were inside until halfway through the night!

 

[MLBrandow]

I would add the undraft FA that the Eagles traded for to that list of sleepers - Basket

I would add a T.

 

[duaneok66]

Good list; but Vines is hurt and probably won't make the team . . . Guys like Glenn Martinez, Drummond, and Furrey are ahead of him . . .