Klimtology
Footballguy
Who is this year's Arian Foster and why?
Tim Hightower?
Ingram?
Shonn Greene?
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Tim Hightower?
Ingram?
Shonn Greene?
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This Year's Arian Foster? (1 Viewer)
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Felix Jones...and I feel pretty strongly about it.
I owned Arian Foster and Jamaal Charles in all 4 of my leagues last year....every year I try to target all of my RB's in the mid to later rounds. As I said above I see a similar opportunity for Jones this year.
1. Part of a great offense...won't see a crowded box very often
2. In addition to being the early down back he also stays on the field and is heavily involved in the passing game.
3. Good pedigree, he's a skilled player with some explosive big play ability.
4. Every indication so far is that he will get the majority of the carries
5. Every indication so far is that he will get the goal line carries.
I'm targeting Jones in the 3rd/4th round of all of my drafts.
I owned Arian Foster and Jamaal Charles in all 4 of my leagues last year....every year I try to target all of my RB's in the mid to later rounds. As I said above I see a similar opportunity for Jones this year.
1. Part of a great offense...won't see a crowded box very often
2. In addition to being the early down back he also stays on the field and is heavily involved in the passing game.
3. Good pedigree, he's a skilled player with some explosive big play ability.
4. Every indication so far is that he will get the majority of the carries
5. Every indication so far is that he will get the goal line carries.
I'm targeting Jones in the 3rd/4th round of all of my drafts.
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Not Hightower - I don't think the Redskins will score enough.
Not Greene - I have a suspicion the carry split will be similar to last year.
If Ingram can get the majority of carries and the offense is clicking, he has a chance to be this guy.
Was Arian drafted as high as the fourth round last year?
Not Greene - I have a suspicion the carry split will be similar to last year.
If Ingram can get the majority of carries and the offense is clicking, he has a chance to be this guy.
Was Arian drafted as high as the fourth round last year?
ourmanflint
Footballguy
Yes especially as it got closer to Week 1. Felix is a good call. But I think Hightower is the one. I always liked Hightower's energy and running style and always wondered why he wasn't more successful. Now I know. He was in the wrong offense. Hightower will have a big year. Maybe not Arian Foster big, but at least top 12 big.
Even though I like Felix more....Hightower definitely has potential as well. My question is do you really expect to have to take Hightower in the 4th to get him? I still think worst case he'll fall to the 5th/6th in most local leagues where you don't have a bunch of sharks.
I agree. Tonight I took Felix Jones at 3.8 and Mark Ingram at 5.8I think both can be top 10 in PPR.
Same here. Foster in the fourth was a beautiful thing. and I hope Felix in he third and Ingram in the 5th is $$$.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I do remember Foster going in the 4th-5th-6th in late drafts, but in my oldest league we had to hold an early draft (after game 1 of the exhibition season). He went in the 10th by a guy who took Ray Rice in the 1st, Jahvid Best around the 4th, and McFadden as a late round flyer. Nice when you can win the regular season with a Cutler/Palmer combo.
Oh, and of course he lost in the first round by 0.60 points after dominating all year.
I like Felix Jones this year as well, but he seems to go earlier than I expect every year. Any reason to think this year is different? Hightower will be the other popular pick due to his explosive preseason, but I don't see him becoming an overnight bell cow. Plus I hate drafting any RB who plays for the rat.
I think Ingram might be the perfect situation. He should be superior to PT in the red zone, and if he proves to be durable, he could have a monster year.
Oh, and of course he lost in the first round by 0.60 points after dominating all year.
I like Felix Jones this year as well, but he seems to go earlier than I expect every year. Any reason to think this year is different? Hightower will be the other popular pick due to his explosive preseason, but I don't see him becoming an overnight bell cow. Plus I hate drafting any RB who plays for the rat.
I think Ingram might be the perfect situation. He should be superior to PT in the red zone, and if he proves to be durable, he could have a monster year.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
do yall play with guppies? went in mid third in my 12 team league )i was hoping to snag him in the 4th) and was kept in my two keeper leagues, But he10th? why didn't you take him in the 4-9th?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think its Mark Ingram. He's an unproven talent in an exceptional situation. Remember Arian Foster had Ward and Slaton there to share carries with as well. Which is to say bit players, much like Thomas and Sproles. Double digit touchdowns seem likely.
schooner44
Footballguy
I think the only way you could predict another Arian Foster would be to be able to predict an injury to a projected #1 RB. Something like Jalen Parmele in Balt if Rice went down and Williams couldn't carry the load. Its just too unpredictable.
Ingram, Felix Jones, and Greene all are in very good situations and COULD be stud RBs if they remain healthy and the coaches use them as we fantasy owners want them to be used (those are all big ifs). I will also throw Ryan Mathews into that group, but I don't think it's that likely, but he's in a great situation. I really don't think Hightower will be it. The situation just isn't as good for him in Washington.
eakfootball
Footballguy
I'm thinking Felix, but so are most of you. Maybe a Hardesty or someone out of the blue.
Trizzler
Footballguy
I just don't see there being a value play on the same level as Arian Foster this year. Felix Jones is the obvious pick for a breakout year, but I'll probably have to grab him in the 3rd round tomorrow since I'm drafting with Cowboys homers.
The one guy who's probably flying under the radar (obviously not under the shark radar
) is Stevan Ridley. If BJGE goes down or struggles, it's not like Woodhead is going to shoulder the load.
The one guy who's probably flying under the radar (obviously not under the shark radar
) is Stevan Ridley. If BJGE goes down or struggles, it's not like Woodhead is going to shoulder the load.
I Love Your Fantasy Team
Footballguy
I'm liking Hightower more and more by the day.
He runs hard, he catches, his O-Line is surprising me, he run blocks well, he's not injury-prone, he's GL capable.
Not to mention, he can be had around the 90th overall pick.
Besides him, I think Ben Tate could be a million-dollar handcuff if Foster goes down.
He runs hard, he catches, his O-Line is surprising me, he run blocks well, he's not injury-prone, he's GL capable.
Not to mention, he can be had around the 90th overall pick.
Besides him, I think Ben Tate could be a million-dollar handcuff if Foster goes down.
I can see that happening, my number crunching friend.
zilladog
Footballguy
Felix is a good one, but I really think it's Wells this year. In the best shape of his career. Improved offensive line. Improved passing game. Healthier than he's ever been. Out to prove something with a vengeance. In line for 250 or more carries. Great speed. Good power. Easy run schedule in the beginning of the year to build confidence and momentum off of. Definitely Wells.
I Love Your Fantasy Team
Footballguy
FWIW:
RB16 - 36 ov. - Jones
RB25 - 62 ov. - Wells
RB30 - 72 ov. - Hightower
(ADP from FF Calc PPR)
RB16 - 36 ov. - Jones
RB25 - 62 ov. - Wells
RB30 - 72 ov. - Hightower
(ADP from FF Calc PPR)
This really surprises the hell out of me with his pre-season performance. I will be shocked if he lasts that long in any of my drafts.
joffer
Footballguy
every time i read this, gotta
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Late August (2010) draft, absolutely - same for me. But the draft I was referencing was a Preseason Week 1 draft. Go search for "Arian" and limti the dates to mid-July 2010 to mid-August 2010. Everybody thought (pre-injury) Tate would steal carries and Slaton would be the pass catching CoP and Kubiak would be Rat Jr.A lot happened between August 10th and August 30th last year to propel Foster from a 11th-14th rounder to 4th rounder. The only guy on a similar arc this year is Hightower. Felix and Ingram are already there. Most of the others mentioned in this thread are a whole lotta hoping.
Took him at 6.7 tonight. In PPR he has a legit shot at a top 15 finish and a great value as a number RB3/Flex option (which is what he should be drafted for). He looks very focused, running very hard, fast and really being patient in looking for the crease between the tackles. He has great hands...we all know he has all world talent. But he has had numerous health issues early in his career. I am not saying he runs like this back...but this back you may remember could not stay healthy his first few years in the league and then broke out to have a couple of very nice seasons as a 49er.Charlie Garner.Anyway, Bush is entrenched as the Dolphins starter. He will get more work here then he ever got in New Orleans. I expect him to Rush for 1K, catch 50-60 balls and score 6-7 TD's.He will have his most productive year as a pro IMO and be a superb PPR value.
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I am a huge skeptic. Even his College career had huge red flags. He does not play with pain.....I really don't think he is a tough RB by NFL standards.But hey...this may be the year. It is all there for him.No excuses. Unless he has a serious injury. And I know he had a knee injury once....but it just seems like he is soft....maybe I am wrong. I also feel the same about Shonne Green. He seems to take himself out a lot.The great ones play through minor strains, bruises whatever...they just do.Now Felix has had a couple of serious injuries where he could not run.
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?Reggie, Jerome, & Tate look really good at or below their ADP.degenerate
Footballguy
the only way there's a this year's arian foster is if someone gets injured. otherwise, if you put a gun to my head i say felix,, ingram, r. bush (ppr), or starks. all healthy, primed, and ready to prove somethin. in my auction tomorrow i am going for these guys and playing in week 16
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I think the only real chance of a "Foster" happening this year, is if the actual Foster gets hurt. Tate would fill in at a RB1 level easily, I think.
But aiming lower and looking at guys who will outperform their draft slot, I like Hightower, Bush, Ingram, and Starks much later. I have a feeling around mid-season that job will be his primarily. Felix is getting too rich for my blood. I like where Lynch is going though. Another candidate for this thread.
But aiming lower and looking at guys who will outperform their draft slot, I like Hightower, Bush, Ingram, and Starks much later. I have a feeling around mid-season that job will be his primarily. Felix is getting too rich for my blood. I like where Lynch is going though. Another candidate for this thread.
Eh, most of mine have been named:
1) F Jones
2) Hightower
3) R. Bush (He's going aginst all the naysayers...I think he's going to try and prove something. The player vs the numbers but im banking on him)
4) I see Tate doing great towards the mid point on.
And.... a not so popular choice but I'm taking him in each draft late:
4) Montario Hardesty. If he is healthy and stays healthy the kids got moves and Hillis got slow towards the end of the year. Remember Hardesty was the designated starter before Hillis rumbled stumbled and smashed his way to fantasy greatness last year.
Edit-and before Hardest got hurt...
1) F Jones
2) Hightower
3) R. Bush (He's going aginst all the naysayers...I think he's going to try and prove something. The player vs the numbers but im banking on him)
4) I see Tate doing great towards the mid point on.
And.... a not so popular choice but I'm taking him in each draft late:
4) Montario Hardesty. If he is healthy and stays healthy the kids got moves and Hillis got slow towards the end of the year. Remember Hardesty was the designated starter before Hillis rumbled stumbled and smashed his way to fantasy greatness last year.
Edit-and before Hardest got hurt...
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GregR
Footballguy
I'm not a fan of Ingram this year unless it's a TD heavy league.
But I think Best, Hightower and Reggie Bush are likely to be three who outperform their spot by quite a bit. I also agree Starks and Tate make good flyers.
I'm not so much against Felix Jones as I just think he's going early enough he's not going to end up outperforming his spot by a lot.
But I think Best, Hightower and Reggie Bush are likely to be three who outperform their spot by quite a bit. I also agree Starks and Tate make good flyers.
I'm not so much against Felix Jones as I just think he's going early enough he's not going to end up outperforming his spot by a lot.
zilladog
Footballguy
Is this somehow not true? All the reports I read when camp opened were talking about how he's never looked in better shape. this tells me that he's not taking his role on the team for granted and that he's out to prove something. (obviously Williams being drafted had something to do with that, of course)http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/nfl_news.cfm?news_id=2811every time i read this, gotta
zilladog
Footballguy
1k yds, 50-60 rec. and 6-7 td"s, while surprising, is hardly Arian Foster-esque.
zilladog
Footballguy
Reggie Bush doesn't have all of these same critiques against him??
Agreed, Fine im making it my solo call then "4) Montario Hardesty. If he is healthy and stays healthy the kids got moves and Hillis got slow towards the end of the year. Remember Hardesty was the designated starter before Hillis rumbled stumbled and smashed his way to fantasy greatness last year.Edit-and before Hardesty got hurt..."Foster was drafted in round 4 on average, ended up #1, Hardesty will end up top 20 back and a top 10 performer for the last 5 weeks of the season.
degenerate
Footballguy
i seem to remember foster getting that too watered down feeling right before the season started kind of like felix is going to get this year. remember, he very well could still be this year's foster, or he could play at his initial adp. that's the problem with predicting the future. trust the shark pools research. he's being talked about a lot for a reason. win together. die together
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
First off, I dont expect anyone to touch Arian's numbers from 2010. He was/is in an explosive offense, and really the only guy who fits that profile this year is Felix, but I dont see him getting the same amount of touches. I do like Felix a lot as a breakout candidate this yr, but as others have said, he's already going mid-4th at the latest.
I liked Timmy High from the get-go, and his preseason hasnt dissuaded me. Based of draft spot/ADP, I think he is the guy here.
Ingram, Reggie, Wells, Greene all have good chances as well, but I see them being less likely than Hightower or Felix to be Top 15. Ingram's price is pretty expensive at this point, and in that offense, its hard to know how many touches he really gets. Beanie's offense should be better this year, but by how much. Will Greene finally get the majority of the carries? Of the 4, I think Reggie is the best value. He's a starter, reports are that Thomas is underwhelming, and it also sounds like he's motivated and wants to prove people wrong. I havent seen him go earlier than the 9th (non-ppr). He's got great value right now, even if he doesnt end up a Top 20 RB
I liked Timmy High from the get-go, and his preseason hasnt dissuaded me. Based of draft spot/ADP, I think he is the guy here.
Ingram, Reggie, Wells, Greene all have good chances as well, but I see them being less likely than Hightower or Felix to be Top 15. Ingram's price is pretty expensive at this point, and in that offense, its hard to know how many touches he really gets. Beanie's offense should be better this year, but by how much. Will Greene finally get the majority of the carries? Of the 4, I think Reggie is the best value. He's a starter, reports are that Thomas is underwhelming, and it also sounds like he's motivated and wants to prove people wrong. I havent seen him go earlier than the 9th (non-ppr). He's got great value right now, even if he doesnt end up a Top 20 RB
adrenaline
Footballguy
I'll throw Blount in here, heard he's been working on his pass catching.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Reggie Bush
Will be a Top 5 PPR PPG RB this year
Will be a Top 5 PPR PPG RB this year
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Ding, ding, ding......We have a winner. This is the guy to target. He was injured last preseason, never had a chance to get healthy, then the wheels fell off the AZ offense. He was beast his rookie year and all throughout college.Something about Felix scares me. I'm not sure what it is, but it seems too easy for him to take over as a true #1 RB. I don't think he can handle it.Never trust Shanahan. By week 6 or 7 a RB who is probably not even on the team right now will be starting.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Tiki Barber
Couch Potato
Footballguy
That Couch Potato is a funny guy.
But I could see Best putting up a Chris Johnson-like season if he stays healthy.
But I could see Best putting up a Chris Johnson-like season if he stays healthy.
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Banger
Footballguy
that's funny...I snagged all of them last night in my big money league.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think his point was that it's hard to find a veteran player that this is NOT written about in training camp.Is this somehow not true? All the reports I read when camp opened were talking about how he's never looked in better shape. this tells me that he's not taking his role on the team for granted and that he's out to prove something. (obviously Williams being drafted had something to do with that, of course)http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/nfl_news.cfm?news_id=2811every time i read this, gotta
Saint
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