This Year's Arian Foster? (1 Viewer)

[Seven Above]

Last year at around this time it was starting to become apparent that Foster was emerging. He started climbing up draft boards. During later drafts he started disappearing in the 4th to 5th round as an RB2, in some cases as an RB1. Sounds logical now, but back then he was anything but proven.

This year, the only guy that can really be said about is Hightower, who Is now starting to go in the 4th/5th round. Bush is climbing too. So, I agree with what has already been iterated numerous times above, these two guys are the upside picks IMO.

However, just as Foster's emergence was characterized by alot of hope at this time last year, same goes for Hightower and Bush - these are guys that have significantly underperformed previously, and we hope that early indications ring true for the regular season. In the case of Hightower, there's also the Shanahan factor to deal with. Just goes to show, while it's prudent to draft upside, there's a fair bit of luck involved with this...

 

[pecorino]

no love for shonn greene? maybe his ADP is too high for this discussion but it looks like me that 1) LT is fading and 2) the young guns of Powell and McKnight aren't there yet. and how many PI calls will plax draw in the endzone where Greene will get the 1 yard TD plunge for six. Greene is my breakout Foster this year.

 

[Stealthycat]

RB D Carter, rookie IND

Why? He's a powerhouse RB capable of carrying the load. He only has a brittle Addai ahead of him (I think at this point brown is 3rd RB on depth chart)

Stars have to line up for anyone (Tate's injury last year was why Foster emerged) ........... opportunity is there for Carter and the path could easily open

 

[Sabertooth]

Perhaps the more apt question is "Who is this season's Peyton Hillis."

Adrian was the top guy last season. That's not a realistic expectation. Hillis was very effective and ended up in the top 10 out of nowhere. I think that is more what we should be looking for. We'll be lucky to find even that.

Arian Foster is an outlier to say the least.

 

[Sabertooth]

RB D Carter, rookie INDWhy? He's a powerhouse RB capable of carrying the load. He only has a brittle Addai ahead of him (I think at this point brown is 3rd RB on depth chart)Stars have to line up for anyone (Tate's injury last year was why Foster emerged) ........... opportunity is there for Carter and the path could easily open

I like Carter too. I think he's the only back on that roster capable of 200+ carries. I've read that he's 2nd on the depth chart. You have to love a 4th round pick who claws his way up the chart. I'd much prefer that to a player who was pretty much handed the keys and didn't earn it. That said, I think Ingram's situation and talent is superior to Carter's in almost every possible way. But that's why they play the games.

 

[GunslingerEnder]

Felix Jones and beanie wells seem to be two others who have the opportunity and little competition for.playing time.right now

.

Going late enough to exceed their value by leaps and bounds.

 

[GunslingerEnder]

Guess I should have went through the first pages, as they have been discusses a lot

 

[Lash]

FELIX

 

[mlball77]

Going with the consensus here, but my first thought was Felix Jones (I think his talent could be elite and now his situation is looking good in DAL). When I considered the question more, the second player that came to mind was Tim Hightower.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

do yall play with guppies? went in mid third in my 12 team league )i was hoping to snag him in the 4th) and was kept in my two keeper leagues, But he10th? why didn't you take him in the 4-9th?

Probably because Tate was expected to have the role early on in the off season...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

You all may just be afraid to say it, but Reggie Bush is a legit candidate for biggest surprise rb this year.

Took him at 6.7 tonight. In PPR he has a legit shot at a top 15 finish and a great value as a number RB3/Flex option (which is what he should be drafted for). He looks very focused, running very hard, fast and really being patient in looking for the crease between the tackles. He has great hands...we all know he has all world talent. But he has had numerous health issues early in his career. I am not saying he runs like this back...but this back you may remember could not stay healthy his first few years in the league and then broke out to have a couple of very nice seasons as a 49er.Charlie Garner.Anyway, Bush is entrenched as the Dolphins starter. He will get more work here then he ever got in New Orleans. I expect him to Rush for 1K, catch 50-60 balls and score 6-7 TD's.He will have his most productive year as a pro IMO and be a superb PPR value.

1k yds, 50-60 rec. and 6-7 td"s, while surprising, is hardly Arian Foster-esque.

Probably because there isn't a guy who wasn't even a blip last season who will put up the #1 RB #'s this season the way Foster did..The # 1 RB will likely be someone who was already a top 25 RB last season.Don't be critical, that was a good prediction, fitting the thread, and noteworthy thought..

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Not Hightower - I don't think the Redskins will score enough.

Not Greene - I have a suspicion the carry split will be similar to last year.

If Ingram can get the majority of carries and the offense is clicking, he has a chance to be this guy.

Was Arian drafted as high as the fourth round last year?

Yes especially as it got closer to Week 1. Felix is a good call. But I think Hightower is the one. I always liked Hightower's energy and running style and always wondered why he wasn't more successful. Now I know. He was in the wrong offense. Hightower will have a big year. Maybe not Arian Foster big, but at least top 12 big.

Yes, he was drafted as high as the 1st round in the high stakes events. (I was very lucky to get him at the beginning of the third round.)

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Starks.

 

[Captain Hook]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

 

[One]

Felix had around 240 touches last season. I spot-started him, he looked fine, nothing too special. What is going to happen this season to make him 'This Year's Arian Foster'? How many more touches are you projecting with Romo back and Baber gone? I just can't envision him getting too far over 300 touches this season.

Have a draft in 3 hours, trying to sell myself on him in the 4th, but just don't see it. Especially with quality WRs and QBs still on the board. TIA.

 

[ponchsox]

Felix had around 240 touches last season. I spot-started him, he looked fine, nothing too special. What is going to happen this season to make him 'This Year's Arian Foster'? How many more touches are you projecting with Romo back and Baber gone? I just can't envision him reaching 300 touches this season. Have a draft in 3 hours, trying to sell myself on him in the 4th, but just don't see it. Especially with quality WRs and QBs still on the board. TIA.

Better offensive line, Romo healthy, better system, little competition, and he looks stronger & faster. IMO you are crazy for passing on him IF he falls to the 4th which I highly doubt.

 

[GunslingerEnder]

I somehow got him in the 2nd (6th) of a four man keeper league.

I guess it depends on your league and draft position

 

[az_prof]

RB D Carter, rookie INDWhy? He's a powerhouse RB capable of carrying the load. He only has a brittle Addai ahead of him (I think at this point brown is 3rd RB on depth chart)Stars have to line up for anyone (Tate's injury last year was why Foster emerged) ........... opportunity is there for Carter and the path could easily open

He has shown very good running skills so far in preseason against third stringers. But he will have to pass block well, and not too many rookies can do that. And Addai is not gong to be displaced unless he is hurt. And the claims about Carter being second on depth chart are based on one story by a reporter who was speculating--nothing official so I don't know how much weight I would put in it.

 

[oswizzle]

Tim Hightower

 

[shnikies]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

Can you give me an example of a year than Shanahan randomly pulled a starting running back that was effective and healthy? I've seen this Shanahan stuff all over the boards like he only coached in 2008 and 2010. TD, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Droughns, and Bell were all featured in a Shanahan offense at one point or another. In 2008 the line couldn't open up a hole to save their lives, the defense was horrible and Cutler threw the ball constantly (616 attempts). Last year he was dealing with an aging, injured and ineffective previous superstar in Portis. Once Torain got the job it was his until he was injured. So, not taking Hightower or preaching against his prospects based on Shanahan makes no sense.

 

[az_prof]

I am not sure that there is a player like Foster this year, if you mean someone who isn't even a starter now who will become a top 3 RB.

But one thing you have to consider is which team:

a) has a great offensive line for run blocking. Because a lot of Foster's success is HOU's run scheme and blocking.

b) Which team LOVES to run and will give the HB a lot of attempts.

c) Which team has a cloudy starting HB situation or a situation where the projected starter is either injury prone (Slaton) or a higher ranked rookie/young player who has yet to prove anything (Tate).

J. Rodgers for ATL may satisfy all of those--TUrner isn't injury prone but he is getting up there in age.

B Scott for CInn?

D Murry for Dallas?

Alex Green for Packers?

Bilal Powell for the Jets?

Kendall Hunter for SF

Roy Helu, WA

 

[shnikies]

I am not sure that there is a player like Foster this year, if you mean someone who isn't even a starter now who will become a top 3 RB.

But one thing you have to consider is which team:

a) has a great offensive line for run blocking. Because a lot of Foster's success is HOU's run scheme and blocking.

b) Which team LOVES to run and will give the HB a lot of attempts.

c) Which team has a cloudy starting HB situation or a situation where the projected starter is either injury prone (Slaton) or a higher ranked rookie/young player who has yet to prove anything (Tate).

J. Rodgers for ATL may satisfy all of those--TUrner isn't injury prone but he is getting up there in age.

B Scott for CInn?

D Murry for Dallas?

Alex Green for Packers?

Bilal Powell for the Jets?

Kendall Hunter for SF

Roy Helu, WA

a) Houston averaged 3.5 ypc in 2009 (31st in the NFL) Nobody expected Houston's offensive line to be anywhere near as effective as it was last year.b) In 2009, Houston was 20th in rush attempts and 4th in pass attempts

c) ok

I guess you might need to change your considerations.

 

[GregR]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

Can you give me an example of a year than Shanahan randomly pulled a starting running back that was effective and healthy? I've seen this Shanahan stuff all over the boards like he only coached in 2008 and 2010. TD, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Droughns, and Bell were all featured in a Shanahan offense at one point or another. In 2008 the line couldn't open up a hole to save their lives, the defense was horrible and Cutler threw the ball constantly (616 attempts). Last year he was dealing with an aging, injured and ineffective previous superstar in Portis. Once Torain got the job it was his until he was injured. So, not taking Hightower or preaching against his prospects based on Shanahan makes no sense.

Check the first year that Mike Anderson did well.

 

[shnikies]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

Can you give me an example of a year than Shanahan randomly pulled a starting running back that was effective and healthy? I've seen this Shanahan stuff all over the boards like he only coached in 2008 and 2010. TD, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Droughns, and Bell were all featured in a Shanahan offense at one point or another. In 2008 the line couldn't open up a hole to save their lives, the defense was horrible and Cutler threw the ball constantly (616 attempts). Last year he was dealing with an aging, injured and ineffective previous superstar in Portis. Once Torain got the job it was his until he was injured. So, not taking Hightower or preaching against his prospects based on Shanahan makes no sense.

Check the first year that Mike Anderson did well.

TD got injured and Anderson ran for 1500 yards and 15 tds?

 

[Mimo]

Knowshon

 

[ourmanflint]

Felix had around 240 touches last season. I spot-started him, he looked fine, nothing too special. What is going to happen this season to make him 'This Year's Arian Foster'? How many more touches are you projecting with Romo back and Baber gone? I just can't envision him getting too far over 300 touches this season. Have a draft in 3 hours, trying to sell myself on him in the 4th, but just don't see it. Especially with quality WRs and QBs still on the board. TIA.

He should have the touches and the yards. The question is the TDs.Will he have goal line duty? He hasn't been effective there before.Last year's goal line stats inside the 5:Barber 15 attempts converting 3Choice 12 attempts converting 2Felix 6 attempts converting 1

 

[GregR]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

Can you give me an example of a year than Shanahan randomly pulled a starting running back that was effective and healthy? I've seen this Shanahan stuff all over the boards like he only coached in 2008 and 2010. TD, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Droughns, and Bell were all featured in a Shanahan offense at one point or another. In 2008 the line couldn't open up a hole to save their lives, the defense was horrible and Cutler threw the ball constantly (616 attempts). Last year he was dealing with an aging, injured and ineffective previous superstar in Portis. Once Torain got the job it was his until he was injured. So, not taking Hightower or preaching against his prospects based on Shanahan makes no sense.

Check the first year that Mike Anderson did well.

TD got injured and Anderson ran for 1500 yards and 15 tds?

On cell so can't look up easy, but think so, yes. As I recall each time we thought we knew what would happen he would give Karon Coleman or another back carries inexplicably, or made Anderson's injuries sound worse. I had him that year and recall missing a lot of his great season because it was murky who would get the carries. Easy to see in hindsight, tough when working off what the press and injury reports said week to week.

 

[shnikies]

I think they are all good candidates....BUT I have a few questions for backers of each....

Felix - do you really think you will be able to get him in the 4th on draft day?

Greene - he Will get the opportunity but I am slightly skeptical..can you afford the rosters spots for LT and Powell to cover?

Wells - okay great starting, passing game will be fine...BUT don't they still have a terrible O Line?

Hightower - love the skills...BUT do you realize he is playing for Shanahan? and there are a lot more toys in the box....Are you going to take Helu or Torain late? both? I will bet Keiland Williams has more points than one of them by season's end IF he stays on the team

Can you give me an example of a year than Shanahan randomly pulled a starting running back that was effective and healthy? I've seen this Shanahan stuff all over the boards like he only coached in 2008 and 2010. TD, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Droughns, and Bell were all featured in a Shanahan offense at one point or another. In 2008 the line couldn't open up a hole to save their lives, the defense was horrible and Cutler threw the ball constantly (616 attempts). Last year he was dealing with an aging, injured and ineffective previous superstar in Portis. Once Torain got the job it was his until he was injured. So, not taking Hightower or preaching against his prospects based on Shanahan makes no sense.

Check the first year that Mike Anderson did well.

TD got injured and Anderson ran for 1500 yards and 15 tds?

On cell so can't look up easy, but think so, yes. As I recall each time we thought we knew what would happen he would give Karon Coleman or another back carries inexplicably, or made Anderson's injuries sound worse. I had him that year and recall missing a lot of his great season because it was murky who would get the carries. Easy to see in hindsight, tough when working off what the press and injury reports said week to week.

Coleman had three games with 10 or more carries. In those games, Anderson carried the ball 13, 19 and 26 times. Anderson had seven 100 yard games. I think you might be thinking of 2001 when Terrell Davis was battling his knee injuries. I don't think there's a borderline hall of famer on this team that's battling knee injures that's threatening Hightower's playing time.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Reginald Bush

Daniel Thomas is Tony Hunt II

 

[degenerate]

with one stud rb early, you should be more than fine if you get more than one of felix, hightower, beanie, bush, ingram

 

[Bankerguy]

felix is the obvious choice, he's going to get a lot of opportunity and if he stays healthy will go bananas in that offense. He seems to get injured a lot but if he can somehow stay healthy a top 5 finish is possible.

Common misconception.

 

[GregR]

...TD got injured and Anderson ran for 1500 yards and 15 tds?

On cell so can't look up easy, but think so, yes. As I recall each time we thought we knew what would happen he would give Karon Coleman or another back carries inexplicably, or made Anderson's injuries sound worse. I had him that year and recall missing a lot of his great season because it was murky who would get the carries. Easy to see in hindsight, tough when working off what the press and injury reports said week to week.

Coleman had three games with 10 or more carries. In those games, Anderson carried the ball 13, 19 and 26 times. Anderson had seven 100 yard games. I think you might be thinking of 2001 when Terrell Davis was battling his knee injuries. I don't think there's a borderline hall of famer on this team that's battling knee injures that's threatening Hightower's playing time.

No it was the 2000 season I meant as the example you asked for, though the other seasons around that one also had incidents that led to Skeletor getting labelled as he did.It was a net sum of things over the season. First no one thinks Mike Anderson is going to be the guy to step in. No one had even heard of him other than as someone who was in camp but not expected to play. Then he does and he's kicking butt for 2 games so people begin to start him and then Shanahan misleads about injuries and TD steps back in and takes carries away, then is out. People think Anderson will get the touches again in week 6 and start him only to see Coleman get more carries than Anderson does. So you bench him and then Anderson gets all the carries next game. You start him again and Coleman gets 1/3 of the carries again, just enough to keep you guessing who will get the touches each week. Then you are stuck trying to figure out if Anderson is injured or not as Skeletor lies about it and some of us start him and then he only gets 1 carry and then maybe you believe Shanahan the next game that he may play and you start him only to find out he's not playing. That's what it was like that season, and that wasn't the first time that Shanahan was either impossible to figure out or outright lied and misled about injury information. I may not remember every specific detail of that season 11 years ago, but believe me I still feel the pain of having suffered through it as a Mike Anderson owner. It's very easy to look back now and say, he got 1500 yards and should have been started every week he wasn't injured. It was far from that clear when going through it without the benefit of hindsight.

 

[shnikies]

...TD got injured and Anderson ran for 1500 yards and 15 tds?

On cell so can't look up easy, but think so, yes. As I recall each time we thought we knew what would happen he would give Karon Coleman or another back carries inexplicably, or made Anderson's injuries sound worse. I had him that year and recall missing a lot of his great season because it was murky who would get the carries. Easy to see in hindsight, tough when working off what the press and injury reports said week to week.

Coleman had three games with 10 or more carries. In those games, Anderson carried the ball 13, 19 and 26 times. Anderson had seven 100 yard games. I think you might be thinking of 2001 when Terrell Davis was battling his knee injuries. I don't think there's a borderline hall of famer on this team that's battling knee injures that's threatening Hightower's playing time.

No it was the 2000 season I meant as the example you asked for, though the other seasons around that one also had incidents that led to Skeletor getting labelled as he did.It was a net sum of things over the season. First no one thinks Mike Anderson is going to be the guy to step in. No one had even heard of him other than as someone who was in camp but not expected to play. Then he does and he's kicking butt for 2 games so people begin to start him and then Shanahan misleads about injuries and TD steps back in and takes carries away, then is out. People think Anderson will get the touches again in week 6 and start him only to see Coleman get more carries than Anderson does. So you bench him and then Anderson gets all the carries next game. You start him again and Coleman gets 1/3 of the carries again, just enough to keep you guessing who will get the touches each week. Then you are stuck trying to figure out if Anderson is injured or not as Skeletor lies about it and some of us start him and then he only gets 1 carry and then maybe you believe Shanahan the next game that he may play and you start him only to find out he's not playing. That's what it was like that season, and that wasn't the first time that Shanahan was either impossible to figure out or outright lied and misled about injury information. I may not remember every specific detail of that season 11 years ago, but believe me I still feel the pain of having suffered through it as a Mike Anderson owner. It's very easy to look back now and say, he got 1500 yards and should have been started every week he wasn't injured. It was far from that clear when going through it without the benefit of hindsight.

I remember it being if TD was playing you didn't play Anderson. Regardless, this was one year, where I guess if you had a really deep team and you'd consider not playing Anderson you'd have to guess your way to 1500 yards and 15 tds worth of production and it may have been difficult. I just don't think Shanahan shows a strong enough history of making you guess week to week to warrant downgrading Hightower. I can see how he's inconsistent from year to year, but intra-year running back situations seem to be consistent for the most part.

 

[T with T]

He's not an unknown guy like Foster was, but among 4th round guys who could blow up, I think DeAngelo Williams could really re-establish himself as an elite RB. While I don't see Foster's upside, I could see Jahvid Best having a LeSean McCoy-like 2nd year breakout.

Agreed my friend exactly what I was thinking... Mccoys rookie year wasn't nothing spectacular and actually was worse then J. Best injury plagued year, so I totally agree.. I got Charles, best, Ingram for my 3 starters in my redraft pprCharles 1.2Best 3.2Ingram 5.2

 

[zilladog]

He's not an unknown guy like Foster was, but among 4th round guys who could blow up, I think DeAngelo Williams could really re-establish himself as an elite RB. While I don't see Foster's upside, I could see Jahvid Best having a LeSean McCoy-like 2nd year breakout.

Agreed my friend exactly what I was thinking... Mccoys rookie year wasn't nothing spectacular and actually was worse then J. Best injury plagued year, so I totally agree.. I got Charles, best, Ingram for my 3 starters in my redraft pprCharles 1.2Best 3.2Ingram 5.2

I'm surprised Best isn't getting more love on this thread. Or Greene for that matter.

 

[az_prof]

I am not sure that there is a player like Foster this year, if you mean someone who isn't even a starter now who will become a top 3 RB.

But one thing you have to consider is which team:

a) has a great offensive line for run blocking. Because a lot of Foster's success is HOU's run scheme and blocking.

b) Which team LOVES to run and will give the HB a lot of attempts.

c) Which team has a cloudy starting HB situation or a situation where the projected starter is either injury prone (Slaton) or a higher ranked rookie/young player who has yet to prove anything (Tate).

J. Rodgers for ATL may satisfy all of those--TUrner isn't injury prone but he is getting up there in age.

B Scott for CInn?

D Murry for Dallas?

Alex Green for Packers?

Bilal Powell for the Jets?

Kendall Hunter for SF

Roy Helu, WA

a) Houston averaged 3.5 ypc in 2009 (31st in the NFL) Nobody expected Houston's offensive line to be anywhere near as effective as it was last year.b) In 2009, Houston was 20th in rush attempts and 4th in pass attempts

c) ok

I guess you might need to change your considerations.

So, basically you need to be lucky.

 

[shnikies]

I am not sure that there is a player like Foster this year, if you mean someone who isn't even a starter now who will become a top 3 RB.

But one thing you have to consider is which team:

a) has a great offensive line for run blocking. Because a lot of Foster's success is HOU's run scheme and blocking.

b) Which team LOVES to run and will give the HB a lot of attempts.

c) Which team has a cloudy starting HB situation or a situation where the projected starter is either injury prone (Slaton) or a higher ranked rookie/young player who has yet to prove anything (Tate).

J. Rodgers for ATL may satisfy all of those--TUrner isn't injury prone but he is getting up there in age.

B Scott for CInn?

D Murry for Dallas?

Alex Green for Packers?

Bilal Powell for the Jets?

Kendall Hunter for SF

Roy Helu, WA

a) Houston averaged 3.5 ypc in 2009 (31st in the NFL) Nobody expected Houston's offensive line to be anywhere near as effective as it was last year.b) In 2009, Houston was 20th in rush attempts and 4th in pass attempts

c) ok

I guess you might need to change your considerations.

So, basically you need to be lucky.

I think it's more that people are too quick to overlook preseason production. You can get a good feel about running games especially when first teams are going up against each other. The NFL changes too drastically from one year to another to get an idea based on the previous year. Offensive lines can gel or get old fairly quickly. The Redskins o-line is one that's been outperforming their middle of the pack production last year possibly due to the fact it's their second year under Shanahan. The way they played against the Steelers and Ravens is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Tornacl]

Without an injury occurring, I like a lot of the names being thrown out ( I put this caveat in, because Foster didn't win the job due to injury):

Hightower, Felix Jones, Wells, DeAngelo Williams, Shonn Greene

A couple of names that I haven't seen much that I would add are: Moreno, Addai, and James Starks

I think that they will all out-produce their ADP.

If you take injuries into account, I like three guys that could step in and far out-produce their ADP: Stewart (obvious choice), Michael Bush, and Delone Carter

 

[Verminator]

As a guy who grabbed Foster in all three of my leagues last year and Rice in all three leagues the year before and Turner+D Williams the year before that, I have always targeted potential breakouts who are supported by decent offenses and strong offensive lines.

Therefore, I like F Jones and Hightower and will be looking to draft them in 5th/6th if they are still around (unlikely) but the run blocking of their O-Lines are suspect unless they are poised to make major improvements this year.

Keeping my historical focus on good offensive systems and run blocking, my eyes are on Mark Ingram, LeGarrette Blount, and whoever emerges in the SD backfield (Mathews or Tolbert). I am hoping to grab one or both in Rounds 3 and 4.

Hardesty is a dark horse and am also looking for the re-emergence of DeAngelo Williams.

 

[Ariakis]

Redman with Mendy toting over 400 times last year is on my must stash list. I don't think any of the 3-5 round guys is going to be the stud #1 RB in fantasy this year. Certainly some good values but guys like Felix are now being drafted at what their upside is and are no longer values.

 

[stathawk]

3 catches for 62 yards last night? Maybe the guy is more than just a runaway blunt object after all...

Add a couple of screens and swing passes and this guy is a top 10 RB (or better) waiting to happen.

I better throw away the ski mask. I've got him in a 1-man keeper @ 1.5% of my cap (auction league).

Not necessarily the next Foster, but the stars seem to be lining up to massive value if he can add a couple hundred yds receiving and a TD or 2.

 

[Sweet Love]

FWIW:

RB16 - 36 ov. - Jones

RB25 - 62 ov. - Wells

RB30 - 72 ov. - Hightower

(ADP from FF Calc PPR)

This really surprises the hell out of me with his pre-season performance. I will be shocked if he lasts that long in any of my drafts.

Yeah, not saying the info is false, but my guess is that a date range (and very recent one at that) was not applied to the ADPs...for example, it may compile mocks or real drafts from July 15th on...from that time Hightower went from a third stringer to a guy who is shredding the preseason in a #1 role for a coach who is a rushing genius.

 

[One]

FWIW:

RB16 - 36 ov. - Jones

RB25 - 62 ov. - Wells

RB30 - 72 ov. - Hightower

(ADP from FF Calc PPR)

This really surprises the hell out of me with his pre-season performance. I will be shocked if he lasts that long in any of my drafts.

Yeah, not saying the info is false, but my guess is that a date range (and very recent one at that) was not applied to the ADPs...for example, it may compile mocks or real drafts from July 15th on...from that time Hightower went from a third stringer to a guy who is shredding the preseason in a #1 role for a coach who is a rushing genius.

Revised:RB18 - 34 ov. - Jones

RB26 - 63 ov. - Wells

RB28 - 68 ov. - Hightower

(ADP from FF Calc Standard, Aug 26-27)

 

[DoubleG]

There are a few things about THT that would scare me:

1) While Shanny brought him in, he did not draft him. The guy Shanny drafted has looked good when he has gottne a chance. Shanny loves to prove what a "genius" he is.

2) THT might do well...and then he'll fumble. Wells' fixing his fumbling problem and THT struggling with one is one of the reasons Arizona was willing to let him go. Shanny doesn't like RBs fumbling either.

I think Helu could see "starting time" a lot sooner than people think given 1 & 2.

Moreno has been very effective as used so far in preseason. Obviously Tate is now on the list with Foster already showing some early tweaks.

 

[JAA]

Moreno

 

[ConnSKINS26]

There are a few things about THT that would scare me:

1) While Shanny brought him in, he did not draft him. The guy Shanny drafted has looked good when he has gottne a chance. Shanny loves to prove what a "genius" he is.

2) THT might do well...and then he'll fumble. Wells' fixing his fumbling problem and THT struggling with one is one of the reasons Arizona was willing to let him go. Shanny doesn't like RBs fumbling either.

I think Helu could see "starting time" a lot sooner than people think given 1 & 2.

Moreno has been very effective as used so far in preseason. Obviously Tate is now on the list with Foster already showing some early tweaks.

1) A RB acquired by trading an ancient DE that was going to be cut and a 6th round pick to a team that would need RB help badly a week or so later, wouldn't be a "genius" move, if it works out well?2. Torain fumbled multiple times in a single game last year (can't remember which), possibly even 3 times. And Shanahan stuck with him when healthy. Not sure why that wouldn't apply to Hightower.

 

[Raider Nation]

Therefore, I like F Jones and Hightower and will be looking to draft them in 5th/6th if they are still around

Yep. Unfortunately, those names are on the lips of every owner this summer, so the price will be higher than you'd like.

 

[Sabertooth]

DeAngelo has a shot at it. He's set for a potentially huge rebound following last year's nightmare.

 

[DoubleG]

DeAngelo has a shot at it. He's set for a potentially huge rebound following last year's nightmare.

Everyone presumes the usual DWill/Stewart "split" - but Fox aint the coach anymore. DeAngelo could jump back to form rather quickly if he can stay healthy, as he might be used differently than people assume.

 

[pollardsvision]

Therefore, I like F Jones and Hightower and will be looking to draft them in 5th/6th if they are still around

Yep. Unfortunately, those names are on the lips of every owner this summer, so the price will be higher than you'd like.

Yep, Felix just cost me $37 in my main league. Best was kept for $39 by another team. It's a deep PPR keeper with a good amount of inflation for young RBs (Foster went for $31 last year). Still though, Felix cost me more than S-Jax and Deangelo ended up going for later. I paid too much, but the word is certainly out. I wouldn't bank on getting Felix as a 3rd RB as many in here have and/or are planning to.