Thomas Davis - torn labrum? (1 Viewer)

[Weiner Dog]

Panthers | T. Davis should be back to normal soon

Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:27:47 -0800

Brett Borden, of Panthers.com, reports Carolina Panthers LB Thomas Davis is doing well in his rehabilitation from a torn labrum suffered during the 2006 season. Head athletic trainer Ryan Vermillion said, "He has worked hard on his rehab and has regained all of his range of motion. We're now just trying to build up his shoulder strength while paying attention to the rotator cuff and the muscles of the scapula." Vermillion added Davis should be back to normal soon, but he might not be ready to participate fully in the team's first minicamp. "I foresee him to be maybe limited for our first mini-camp, but 100 percent for our June school. He'll be part-time when the strength and conditioning program starts on March 19, but he should be 100 percent in the program by the end of it and shouldn't have any problems at all."

 

[bcr8f]

Me too. Why didn't they report it?

 

[redman]

James Anderson.

 

[bcr8f]

James Anderson.

I hope gets the Will job.

 

[dvjammer]

http://www.panthers.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=17196

Davis is supposed to be fine and Anderson may backup Diggs at the price they paid him. (a $400,000 signing bonus with abase salary of $950,000. )

 

[redman]

http://www.panthers.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=17196

Davis is supposed to be fine and Anderson may backup Diggs at the price they paid him. (a $400,000 signing bonus with abase salary of $950,000. )

I fail to see how that insulates Davis from being either a backup or even released if they desired to do so. Ignoring for the moment what you think of his talents or his recovery from the surgery or whether he's better than Anderson, a $400k cap hit if they released him is nothing, and a $1.35M cap number if they keep him is hardly so astronomical that they couldn't use him as a backup. He's very affordable this year.

 

[dvjammer]

I guess I was unclear - I havent heard anything that would suggest Davis won't start at SLB

Anderson was mentioned as a possible starter at WLB after Diggs was released. When Diggs was re-signed (400k bonus and a 950k salary) the rumor mill fell back to the previously expected - Anderson as a backup to Diggs. Nothing is written in stone at this point but Anderson's massive 2006 stat line (18 tackles 3 assists 2 sacks) makes it a little hard to believe that he'll suddenly leap into the start.

 

[redman]

I guess I was unclear - I havent heard anything that would suggest Davis won't start at SLB Anderson was mentioned as a possible starter at WLB after Diggs was released. When Diggs was re-signed (400k bonus and a 950k salary) the rumor mill fell back to the previously expected - Anderson as a backup to Diggs. Nothing is written in stone at this point but Anderson's massive 2006 stat line (18 tackles 3 assists 2 sacks) makes it a little hard to believe that he'll suddenly leap into the start.

No, you were clear, but your repeated mentions of his salary and bonus seemed to imply, standing on its own, that he was a lock to start just because of how much the club was paying him and I just don't see that as being the case. Your other rationales were fine.

 

[Rozelle]

I guess I was unclear - I havent heard anything that would suggest Davis won't start at SLB Anderson was mentioned as a possible starter at WLB after Diggs was released. When Diggs was re-signed (400k bonus and a 950k salary) the rumor mill fell back to the previously expected - Anderson as a backup to Diggs. Nothing is written in stone at this point but Anderson's massive 2006 stat line (18 tackles 3 assists 2 sacks) makes it a little hard to believe that he'll suddenly leap into the start.

No, you were clear, but your repeated mentions of his salary and bonus seemed to imply, standing on its own, that he was a lock to start just because of how much the club was paying him and I just don't see that as being the case. Your other rationales were fine.

In terms of salary, I thought he was talking about Diggs.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I guess I was unclear - I havent heard anything that would suggest Davis won't start at SLB

Anderson was mentioned as a possible starter at WLB after Diggs was released. When Diggs was re-signed (400k bonus and a 950k salary) the rumor mill fell back to the previously expected - Anderson as a backup to Diggs. Nothing is written in stone at this point but Anderson's massive 2006 stat line (18 tackles 3 assists 2 sacks) makes it a little hard to believe that he'll suddenly leap into the start.

I think you're selling Anderson short. He made two starts in place of Thomas Davis last year at a position he didn't regularly take snaps in practice. He put up a 9-3-2 with 2 FF and a PD in those two games. He only played sparingly in the nickel otherwise. Anderson was a third round pick on a team who was signing replacement level players like Na'il Diggs and Keith Adams last off-season. It was considered a given by most team observers that Anderson would start on the weak side this year**. Plenty of rookie backers struggle to adapt to the pro game in their first seasons and sit if there are reasonable options in front of them.

**After playing very little as a rookie, James Anderson is the likely starter at weakside linebacker. That role was held by Na'il Diggs last season, but he's not likely to be re-signed. The team believes that Anderson has much more upside than Diggs, who played primarily on running downs. Anderson should be ready after watching from the sidelines last year. He has excellent speed and can drop into pass coverage. That could make him into an every-down player. But Anderson's early focus has to be on successfully stopping the run. Behind a big defensive line, Anderson has the speed to cover a lot of ground and should be able to prevent ball carriers from turning the corner.

I mentioned this in the other thread and my contrarian views have been wrong as often as they are right, but I see the Diggs signing as a CYA deal. They knew Draft was going elsewhere and they know that Morgan and Seward are both big question marks. They may also be worried about Davis, although I agree he should be fine. You can throw some cap money at a guy that knows the system or you can pay more for a marginal guy that may not fit your system like Kawika Mitchell, Cato June, or Brandon Short.

I was pretty impressed with Anderson on the strong side against the Bengals -- the guy I saw from the stands took on blockers impressively and looked very good in coverage. In fact, he had three tackles for a loss that game against a very good Bengal offensive line. He won't have to take on nearly as many blockers from the weak side anyway. If Diggs starts over Anderson all season long, then Anderson may as well be Alfred Fincher. Anderson's on-field play suggests otherwise to me. I'm just not bugged about the Diggs signing. If it hadn't been Gantt's opinion that the contract points to Diggs starting, I'd be even less worried.

I'm a stubborn man sometimes.