Thomas Jones on Cedric Benson: "This is MY offense" (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

"It's sort of a messed-up league because one minute you sign a contract, yeah, but you are outplaying the contract. You are playing like one of the top guys in the league, but you are not getting paid for what you are doing. It's frustrating for the player, but at the same time, a guy will play really good and he'll deserve a roster bonus in his contract, but they will cut him because they won't play him. It's definitely not [a system] set up for the players. "

I love sports as much as anyone, but a comment like this really makes u shake your head.

They just dont get it. You didn't see TJ giving money back when he sucked ### in Arizona. Now he is blaming it on his O Line, the QBs? WOW!!! Now that's a team player.

Jerk!

Yeah, I wonder how much his teammates are gonna love him when they read, "You understand that and you start making plays. And then game in and game out, you are the only guy really making plays. The next year they bring another guy in as if you are not the answer, and you were really the only bright spot that whole season."

LOL, he's talking about 2 years ago, and he's right. He WAS the Bears' offense that year after Grossman went down, and he was most of it last year too. There's a reason his teammates respect him so much.If people need to go back to his days in Arizona to find fault with him as a player, that says a lot.

I know he was, you know he was, and pretty much everyone else knows he was. But you don't come out and say that publicly when there are still players from that team that are your teammates.

Which players are you referring to? Grossman was hurt and Berrian and Gage were backups. I don't think anyone is going to complain about him saying Hutchinson, Terrell, Wade, Desmond Clark and Edinger weren't bright spots.

 

[cstu]

TJ sounds like a man who is desperate and probably jealous. He realizes that he was once the pretty young 1st rounder that was handed a starting job and blew his opportunity in AZ. Now Benson is that...Jones is now the tough gritty vet that fights tooth and nail for his job...I respect that.

Sorry, but TJ wasn't handed the starting job and was a backup to Pittman his first two years.

History seems to indicate otherwise.

Link

2000 -- Made first NFL start in season opener at NYG (9/3), producing 16 yards on 12 carries and 18 yards on 4 receptions... Opened vs. DAL (9/10) with 8 carries for 23 yards during the opening possession en route to season highs of 70 yards and 23 carries

Good catch, though I think Pittman became the starter soon after that. It was still a much different situation since both player were unproven and fighting for the starting job.

 

[fornov]

Man I love this guy but its getting hard not to get annoyed at the whining. Just shut up and go play. If you are that much better than Benson prove it and you will play

He hasn't proven it already? I don't see Benson the type of multi-purpose back that TJ is and honestly I don't think he will run for 1300 yards.

....just a hunch is it? Or do you have some concrete proof that he won't run for 1300 yds. If he doesn't start, of course he won't run for 1300 yds, lol

The message says "I don't think he will run for 1300 yards." He doesn't say that he knows he won't or that he can prove it. How does one get "concrete proof" that someone will or will not run for a given number of yards anyway?

 

[JohnnyU]

How does one get "concrete proof" that someone will or will not run for a given number of yards anyway?

They don't

 

[coolnerd]

(and I'm a TJ owner........I bet he wishes now that he had stayed with Tampa Bay after that break-out year with them. Tampa would have never drafted Cadillac and I could have forseen him doing well with Alstott's decllining numbers.)

I believe there were 20 million reasons why he left Tampa so I'm sure he doesn't regret that....

And somewhere close to the same amount of reasons why he won't be the clear number 1 running back in Chicago.

 

[RBM]

We've gone over this over and over and over again, and Jones is just such a far superior back. Benson wasnt even the second best back last season, this year it's the same story. I mean how good could Benson have gotten in 4 months? To catch TJ he'd have to improve so many area's of his game that it's quite laughable to me at this point, this is the same guy that 1). couldnt overtake Peterson

You must be scratching your head still to this day then, since Benson got the start in the 1st game TJ wasnt available

 

[Power Monster]

Why can't these guys just shut up and play football?

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

TJ sounds like a man who is desperate and probably jealous. He realizes that he was once the pretty young 1st rounder that was handed a starting job and blew his opportunity in AZ. Now Benson is that...Jones is now the tough gritty vet that fights tooth and nail for his job...I respect that.

Sorry, but TJ wasn't handed the starting job and was a backup to Pittman his first two years.

History seems to indicate otherwise.

Link

2000 -- Made first NFL start in season opener at NYG (9/3), producing 16 yards on 12 carries and 18 yards on 4 receptions... Opened vs. DAL (9/10) with 8 carries for 23 yards during the opening possession en route to season highs of 70 yards and 23 carries

Good catch, though I think Pittman became the starter soon after that. It was still a much different situation since both player were unproven and fighting for the starting job.

Good catch? This wasn't a typo or some other error made accidentally. No offense man but you were wrong and got called out.

 

[SSOG]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

 

[SSOG]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Why can't these guys just shut up and play football?

It's not September yet.

 

[moleculo]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

 

[Raider Nation]

Not for nuthin', but GRID's chosen title ("This is MY offense") is a bit misleading.

Capital letters indicate shouting. I pictured Jones slamming his fist on the table

in anger as he said that to the reporter. In reality, the quote was much more tame:

"I look at it like this is my offense. [He laughs.] I mean, this is my offense."

Incidentally, the boys from The Red Zone had a Bears beat writer on today. Sorry, I don't recall his name. Jim Miller asked him if it is now TJ's job to lose, since he beat Benson back to the practice field. The writer said no, but he also said that in his opinion, the coaching staff would rather see Jones as the starter.

Did anyone else hear this?

 

[imeimex]

We've gone over this over and over and over again, and Jones is just such a far superior back. Benson wasnt even the second best back last season, this year it's the same story. I mean how good could Benson have gotten in 4 months? To catch TJ he'd have to improve so many area's of his game that it's quite laughable to me at this point, this is the same guy that 1). couldnt overtake Peterson

You must be scratching your head still to this day then, since Benson got the start in the 1st game TJ wasnt available

Gocats says this in every thread, and every Bears fan has told him that Benson was the primary backup to Jones last year. Peterson was a situational runner on 3rd downs and some short yardage, but he was definately #3 until Benson got hurt. Hopefully oneday Gocats will read other peoples posts in his threads so that he will stop spitting the nonsense that Peterson beat out Benson last year. As much as I like AP it is simply not true.

 

[Raider Nation]

We've gone over this over and over and over again, and Jones is just such a far superior back. Benson wasnt even the second best back last season, this year it's the same story. I mean how good could Benson have gotten in 4 months? To catch TJ he'd have to improve so many area's of his game that it's quite laughable to me at this point, this is the same guy that 1). couldnt overtake Peterson

You must be scratching your head still to this day then, since Benson got the start in the 1st game TJ wasnt available

Gocats says this in every thread, and every Bears fan has told him that Benson was the primary backup to Jones last year. Peterson was a situational runner on 3rd downs and some short yardage, but he was definately #3 until Benson got hurt. Hopefully oneday Gocats will read other peoples posts in his threads so that he will stop spitting the nonsense that Peterson beat out Benson last year. As much as I like AP it is simply not true.

No kidding.... Benson must be dating Gocats' ex-girlfriend or something.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I love this thread... Lots of angst from you guys...

The way I see it:

Thomas Jones = 1,300 yard rusher last year with a chip on his shoulder, and the possibility to play his butt off this year, and then get dealt next offseason (when he has one year left on his contract)

Cedric Benson = A guy that can't stay healthy and on the field that is now living comfortably with his new found wealth.

Adrian Peterson = A serial stutterer that keeps his trap shut and averaged 5+ yards per carry last year - the best 3rd string RB in the league - put up 120 yards and a TD in his lone start last season.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Not for nuthin', but GRID's chosen title ("This is MY offense") is a bit misleading.

Capital letters indicate shouting. I pictured Jones slamming his fist on the table

in anger as he said that to the reporter. In reality, the quote was much more tame:

"I look at it like this is my offense. [He laughs.] I mean, this is my offense."

Incidentally, the boys from The Red Zone had a Bears beat writer on today. Sorry, I don't recall his name. Jim Miller asked him if it is now TJ's job to lose, since he beat Benson back to the practice field. The writer said no, but he also said that in his opinion, the coaching staff would rather see Jones as the starter.

Did anyone else hear this?

And your avatar is a bit misleading, it looks like a tough #### guy that can handle two swords through his head, and only his eye popped out.

 

[Raider Nation]

Cedric Benson = A guy that can't stay healthy and on the field that is now living comfortably with his new found wealth.

Mind if I sig this?

 

[Raider Nation]

Not for nuthin', but GRID's chosen title ("This is MY offense") is a bit misleading.

Capital letters indicate shouting. I pictured Jones slamming his fist on the table

in anger as he said that to the reporter. In reality, the quote was much more tame:

"I look at it like this is my offense. [He laughs.] I mean, this is my offense."

Incidentally, the boys from The Red Zone had a Bears beat writer on today. Sorry, I don't recall his name. Jim Miller asked him if it is now TJ's job to lose, since he beat Benson back to the practice field. The writer said no, but he also said that in his opinion, the coaching staff would rather see Jones as the starter.

Did anyone else hear this?

And your avatar is a bit misleading, it looks like a tough #### guy that can handle two swords through his head, and only his eye popped out.

The swords are merely a prop. He lost his eye in a freak miniature golf accident.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Cedric Benson = A guy that can't stay healthy and on the field that is now living comfortably with his new found wealth.

Mind if I sig this?

Knock yourself out, but watch out for that other eye... otherwise you'll see like Jim Plunkett's parents.

 

[SSOG]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

It makes plenty of sense for Denver, because the rushing pie is bigger in Denver. Of course, I'd go Mike Bell/Ron Dayne (not immediately after- much later in the draft) instead of Mike Bell/Tatum Bell, but that's just me.

 

[TheFanatic]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.

My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.

like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

It makes plenty of sense for Denver, because the rushing pie is bigger in Denver. Of course, I'd go Mike Bell/Ron Dayne (not immediately after- much later in the draft) instead of Mike Bell/Tatum Bell, but that's just me.

Really? Tatum and Mike Anderson, the guys that started games for Denver last year, had 1935 rushing yards between them. The guys that started games for Chicago last year, TJ, CB, and AP had 1998 yards between them.

Denver had more TD's but the rushing stats are eerily similar. And with a mich more inept passing game I can't foresee the Bears doing any less running. Denver on the hand don't have Mike Anderson anymore and may rely more on the passing game than in the past. Maybe not, but it's a pissibility. Doesn't look like Dayne is filling the Mike Anderson role and if Mike Bell can't hold onto the ball he won't be filling any role any time soon....

 

[gocats]

Im not going to elaborate on why Benson was third string, you guys have plenty of resources to figure that out on your own and there are plenty of threads on this forum you can research on your own.

 

[RBM]

Im not going to elaborate on why Benson was third string, you guys have plenty of resources to figure that out on your own and there are plenty of threads on this forum you can research on your own.

Are you seriously this lost or are you joking?

 

[moleculo]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

It makes plenty of sense for Denver, because the rushing pie is bigger in Denver. Of course, I'd go Mike Bell/Ron Dayne (not immediately after- much later in the draft) instead of Mike Bell/Tatum Bell, but that's just me.

I'm not convinced that Denver won't give enough carries to a particular guy. In Chicago, I have seen no indications that it won't be closer to a 70/30 or 80/20 split betwen the #1 and #2 backs, whereas in Denver it is likely to be closer to 55/45. Basically, I dispute that the rushing pie is bigger = I think it is about the same.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

It makes plenty of sense for Denver, because the rushing pie is bigger in Denver. Of course, I'd go Mike Bell/Ron Dayne (not immediately after- much later in the draft) instead of Mike Bell/Tatum Bell, but that's just me.

I'm not convinced that Denver won't give enough carries to a particular guy. In Chicago, I have seen no indications that it won't be closer to a 70/30 or 80/20 split betwen the #1 and #2 backs, whereas in Denver it is likely to be closer to 55/45. Basically, I dispute that the rushing pie is bigger = I think it is about the same.

60/40/10 in Chicago (FF PTS 1pt for every 10rush/rec yards, 6pt TD) between T-Jones/Benson/A-Pete

 

[SSOG]

Someone will get the bulk of the carries in Chicago, we just don't know who yet. with the pathetic passing game and the dominant defense, whom ever gets the bulk of the carries will have a good season, that much is clear.

My suggestion is this: if you are drafting at one end of a serpentine draft, take them both on the turn (if both are available) - maybe the 4-5 turn, definately at the 5-6 turn.

like I said - the starting Chicago RB will have a great season this year. Having both guys is the ideal handcuff situation. As long as they don't split carries 50/50, one of these guys is very likely to be a top 10 RB that you can get late.

I've used that strategy in a couple of leagues, and have been very happy with it. I think Thomas Benson makes for a STELLAR RB3.

Is a STELLAR RB2 too much to ask?

No, not at all. I wouldn't have any problem going into the season with Thomas Benson as my RB2 if I'd spent high on WR/TE/QBs. The best part is that not only do you get an almost guaranteed top-15 RB out of it (often costing just a 6th and 7th rounder)... but you also get the handcuff, too. That's like trading a 6th and 7th rounder for a high 2nd rounder straight up, and getting the handcuff for free.

exactly my thinking. The key here is that Chicago is unlikely to go RBBC based on what they did last year. This would not be as good if it were a 50/50 RBBC split - I don't think this strategy makes sense sense for Denver, for example. Also - you have to overpay for the handcuff - don't let the second one get drafted by someone else, because then you have basically removed the hedge from your bet.

It makes plenty of sense for Denver, because the rushing pie is bigger in Denver. Of course, I'd go Mike Bell/Ron Dayne (not immediately after- much later in the draft) instead of Mike Bell/Tatum Bell, but that's just me.

Really? Tatum and Mike Anderson, the guys that started games for Denver last year, had 1935 rushing yards between them. The guys that started games for Chicago last year, TJ, CB, and AP had 1998 yards between them.

Denver had more TD's but the rushing stats are eerily similar. And with a mich more inept passing game I can't foresee the Bears doing any less running. Denver on the hand don't have Mike Anderson anymore and may rely more on the passing game than in the past. Maybe not, but it's a pissibility. Doesn't look like Dayne is filling the Mike Anderson role and if Mike Bell can't hold onto the ball he won't be filling any role any time soon....

I love how you conveniently gloss over the fact that Denver didn't just have more TDs... they had *EIGHTEEN MORE TDS*. If the entire TD difference between Denver's RBs and Chicago's RBs were a runningback, he would have scored 4 more than anyone else in the entire NFL except for Tomlinson/Alexander/Johnson.Denver- 2539 yards and 25 TDs rushing. 403.9 rushing fantasy points.

Chicago- 2099 yards and 11 TDs rushing. 275.9 rushing fantasy points.

Denver- 58/510/6. 87 fantasy points receiving.

Chicago- 53/290/2. 41 fantasy points receiving.

Denver- 490.9 RB fantasy points

Chicago- 316.9 RB fantasy points

Denver scored over 50% more fantasy points than Chicago did. Like I said, the Denver rushing pie is *MUCH, MUCH, MUCH* bigger than the Chicago rushing pie. Denver could see its rushing numbers drop by 25% from last year, and it'd still handily beat out Chicago.

I'm not convinced that Denver won't give enough carries to a particular guy. In Chicago, I have seen no indications that it won't be closer to a 70/30 or 80/20 split betwen the #1 and #2 backs, whereas in Denver it is likely to be closer to 55/45. Basically, I dispute that the rushing pie is bigger = I think it is about the same.

Based on last year's numbers, 55% of the RB pie in Denver would be worth 270 points (good enough for the #5 overall finish last year). Based on last year's numbers, 70% of the Chicago pie would be worth 221.83 points. The rushing pie in Denver is DRASTICALLY bigger. Now, the lead back might get a smaller piece of that pie, but the pie as a whole is so much bigger that a smaller piece of the Denver pie is worth a heckuva lot more than a larger piece of the Chicago pie.

 

[broncofan13000]

does anyone know TJ's contract status? I want to know how it will affect his wherabouts in 2007 (ie if he's cheap the Bears may keep him on the team and not trade him)

 

[RKMoney]

all I know is that I hope to get TJ again this year on the cheap.