Thomas Jones (1 Viewer)

[LivingTheDream]

I didn't get to see the game: only the boxscore and it wasn't too pretty. But he did get all the carries until garbage time.

How did he look? Were there holes to run through-Was GB just stacking the line?

 

[Steelers4Life]

He looked like he did last year and the year before. Made the most of what was there, and had a nice 15+ yard run by bouncing one to the outside after the middle was clogged up. He had a 10 yard run in the 2nd quarter that would've gone for another 10 yards and a TD except for a great tackle.

The Packers did a really nice job against the run, but it was at the expense of Grossman having a big deal through the air. Looked like the Packers sort of dared Grossman to beat them, and he did.

 

[B. Nugget]

He looked like he did last year and the year before. Made the most of what was there, and had a nice 15+ yard run by bouncing one to the outside after the middle was clogged up. He had a 10 yard run in the 2nd quarter that would've gone for another 10 yards and a TD except for a great tackle.The Packers did a really nice job against the run, but it was at the expense of Grossman having a big deal through the air. Looked like the Packers sort of dared Grossman to beat them, and he did.

I saw most of the game and I agree. Green Bay looked to stop the run and made the Bears passing game look like Indianapolis on a couple of plays. TJ didn't do anything spectacular, he just took what they gave him.B. Nugget

 

[Otis]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

 

[Biabreakable]

Green Bush's run defense is no cake walk.

 

[TheFanatic]

Green Bush's run defense is no cake walk.

 

[packersfan]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

I agree (and I don't own either guy). I expected Jones to do a lot better than he did. As others said the Packers did a good job defending the run for the most part but Jones didn't show much in my opinion. Benson got some carries late with the game no longer in doubt (hell it wasn't in doubt after the first quarter) and I would expect his carries to go up so Jones needs to show a lot more in the coming weeks to keep the job in my opinion.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

I agree (and I don't own either guy). I expected Jones to do a lot better than he did. As others said the Packers did a good job defending the run for the most part but Jones didn't show much in my opinion. Benson got some carries late with the game no longer in doubt (hell it wasn't in doubt after the first quarter) and I would expect his carries to go up so Jones needs to show a lot more in the coming weeks to keep the job in my opinion.

TJ seemed to dissappear mid-game -- were they trying to get Benson work or what? Didn't see the game either, but NFL.com gamstats seemed to indicate he just dissapeared.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Not sure why people seem to think that TJ needs to look over his shoulder. Benson didn't do anything with his carries to make TJ look bad.

 

[Biabreakable]

Green Bush's run defense is no cake walk.

I will let a Slacker fan explain that one to you.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

I agree (and I don't own either guy). I expected Jones to do a lot better than he did. As others said the Packers did a good job defending the run for the most part but Jones didn't show much in my opinion. Benson got some carries late with the game no longer in doubt (hell it wasn't in doubt after the first quarter) and I would expect his carries to go up so Jones needs to show a lot more in the coming weeks to keep the job in my opinion.

TJ seemed to dissappear mid-game -- were they trying to get Benson work or what? Didn't see the game either, but NFL.com gamstats seemed to indicate he just dissapeared.

He didn't disappear at all. He came in on a few 3rd downs, but at that point, the game was long over and Benson needed to get some work in. Benson didn't do anything more than Jones did, and I think it's very telling that Benson was healthy enough to get double digit carries in a blowout but NOT trusted to get a single carry with the game even remotely in doubt.If Jones gets 20-22 carries per game and a couple receptions, I'll be very, very happy. It'll keep him fresh and healthy, and it'll also give him plenty of touches to do some damage.Look, I've long been a believer in Thomas Jones, but I expect Benson to get 10 or so carries per game. Puts them right on pace for what I expect will end up a 300 carry season for Jones and about 150 or 160 for Benson. Barring injury, of course.

 

[Otis]

Not sure why people seem to think that TJ needs to look over his shoulder. Benson didn't do anything with his carries to make TJ look bad.

I think very little of Benson and the world of Jones (and I own Jones in several leagues and own Benson in none), but the reality of the situation is that they have a ton of money and a top-3 pick invested in the kid and you better believe the burden is on Jones' shoulders to keep the job. I think that if (1) Jones is not as good as he was last year (which he didn't look this week) or (2) the Bears start losing games, the Benson experiment could be on. Again, I'm not saying it will happen, and the job is TJ's to lose right now, but he needs to be good to keep it.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

I agree (and I don't own either guy). I expected Jones to do a lot better than he did. As others said the Packers did a good job defending the run for the most part but Jones didn't show much in my opinion. Benson got some carries late with the game no longer in doubt (hell it wasn't in doubt after the first quarter) and I would expect his carries to go up so Jones needs to show a lot more in the coming weeks to keep the job in my opinion.

TJ seemed to dissappear mid-game -- were they trying to get Benson work or what? Didn't see the game either, but NFL.com gamstats seemed to indicate he just dissapeared.

He didn't disappear at all. He came in on a few 3rd downs, but at that point, the game was long over and Benson needed to get some work in. Benson didn't do anything more than Jones did, and I think it's very telling that Benson was healthy enough to get double digit carries in a blowout but NOT trusted to get a single carry with the game even remotely in doubt.If Jones gets 20-22 carries per game and a couple receptions, I'll be very, very happy. It'll keep him fresh and healthy, and it'll also give him plenty of touches to do some damage.Look, I've long been a believer in Thomas Jones, but I expect Benson to get 10 or so carries per game. Puts them right on pace for what I expect will end up a 300 carry season for Jones and about 150 or 160 for Benson. Barring injury, of course.

Thanks -- needed to hear what happened as I could only look over the stat line and wanted to know a first hand account.

 

[chicken]

I was disappointed in TJ this week. He got what he could except that he had 6 looks in the Red Zone against GB and came away with nothing. The chances were there and he (i.e. CHI O-Line) couldn't find pay dirt. Here's hoping for more next week.

 

[cr8f]

Green Bush's run defense is no cake walk.

I will let a Slacker fan explain that one to you.

He's looking ahead to Bush in GB this week.

 

[mr. furley]

Green Bush's run defense is no cake walk.

I will let a Slacker fan explain that one to you.

these creative, play-on-word, nicknames NEVER get old to me. and i mean NEVER WHEW

SLACKERS!



i'm trademarking that one and laughing all the way to the bank!



YOU'RE GOOD!

 

[nygiants56]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

despite the fact that Benson ran for 3.1 /carry to tj's 3.0? splitting hairs, I know..but the fact that Benson got 11 carries after missing nearly all of training camp again, means they are trying to get him involved one way or another..tj has looked ordinary thi syear..in preseason he didn't look flashy and he still doesn't..I'm not saying Benson IS going to take that #1 rb spot, but it appears that the Bears are leaning towards getting him there one way or another..but probably not F/t till next season..

 

[mr. furley]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench.

when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.

so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Also when Benson was getting carries it was in situations where it was obvious the Bears weren't passing. He was basically running into 11 guys knowing he was getting the ball.

I wouldn't judge anything as far as Benson is concerned from this game.

 

[mr. furley]

Agree with the above, and I think he'll need to do more to keep Benson on the bench.

despite the fact that Benson ran for 3.1 /carry to tj's 3.0? splitting hairs, I know..but the fact that Benson got 11 carries after missing nearly all of training camp again, means they are trying to get him involved one way or another..tj has looked ordinary thi syear..in preseason he didn't look flashy and he still doesn't..I'm not saying Benson IS going to take that #1 rb spot, but it appears that the Bears are leaning towards getting him there one way or another..but probably not F/t till next season..

this is why reading the #'s and not watching the game is trouble.Benson came in only after the game was well out of hand. the Bears used him to grind out the clock with 5 minutes left. up 26-0 i don't see a lot of teams leaving their starting RB in there to wear down the clock.

 

[sholditch]

I watched the whole thing from start to finish, and I agree with most of what has been said about GB trying to stop the run and make us beat them with the pass (Which we did). TJ had some hard running but did not look as good as he did last year with even less of a passing threat to go with. I think missing so much time in camp has hurt him. He looked slow to hit the hole and not as powerful.

Benson came in during total garbage time and did better than his stat line shows, because I swear his line was intentionally missing blocks. I seriously think that they were refusing to block for him. He needs to do something to win those guys over cause it seriously looked like they were intentionally sabotaging him. As a Bears fan I am sick of this crap. They all need to realize that they are one team, and the simple fact is if they want to make a serious run at the SB then they need Benson to do that.

 

[mr. furley]

forgot to mention: when Jones came out and spiked his helmet.. he looked to be favoring his right leg a little bit. i said to my dad that i thought he might have tweaked something and the coaches didn't want to see him hurt it any further.

he walked a bit after sulking.. looked to be doing fine... took a knee on the sideline and then ran in when Benson had to come off.

that's my 2 cents.

 

[broncofan13000]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

thanks for the insight.

 

[Kiddnets]

Watched most of the game - GB stacked the line and dared Grossman to beat them - and he did! TJ looked ok - expect better numbers from him as respect grows for Grossman.

BTW - I have both TJ and Ced for cheap in a auction league for 2 more yrs - what is the contract status of each next 2 yrs? Would love one f them to be dealt and have 2 starters for cheap next year! I know Ced has the bigger bonus - what is TJ's deal like

 

[Bobcat10]

Also when Benson was getting carries it was in situations where it was obvious the Bears weren't passing. He was basically running into 11 guys knowing he was getting the ball.I wouldn't judge anything as far as Benson is concerned from this game.

But people are saying Jones saw a very similar defense...one that dared Grossman to beat them. That's not always easy to run against.

 

[Bobcat10]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

thanks for the insight.

 

[mr. furley]

I watched the whole thing from start to finish, and I agree with most of what has been said about GB trying to stop the run and make us beat them with the pass (Which we did). TJ had some hard running but did not look as good as he did last year with even less of a passing threat to go with. I think missing so much time in camp has hurt him. He looked slow to hit the hole and not as powerful.Benson came in during total garbage time and did better than his stat line shows, because I swear his line was intentionally missing blocks. I seriously think that they were refusing to block for him. He needs to do something to win those guys over cause it seriously looked like they were intentionally sabotaging him. As a Bears fan I am sick of this crap. They all need to realize that they are one team, and the simple fact is if they want to make a serious run at the SB then they need Benson to do that.

Bears fans are buying in to the conspiracy theory too, huh?TJ = not running hardBenson = team is intentionally sabotaging himgot it.

 

[packersfan]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

Interesting stuff. If the Bears keep winning and Jones stays healthy and is productive but Lovie benches him for Benson anyway it's going to be VERY interesting to see how the players react to that -- assuming the reports about the feelings regarding Jones and Benson are correct.

 

[mr. furley]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

thanks for the insight.

nothing interesting usually happens... every once in a while you'll see a coach get really crazy w/ the yelling.. but usually it's pretty uneventful.only wish i was close enough to hear what was said.interesting, to me anyways, a handful of players came over to TJ while he was sitting on the bench and had something to say.. lots of pats on the shoulder pads.. lots of chit-chatting in his ear. doesn't always happen with guys who are throwing temper tantrums.

 

[mr. furley]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

Interesting stuff. If the Bears keep winning and Jones stays healthy and is productive but Lovie benches him for Benson anyway it's going to be VERY interesting to see how the players react to that -- assuming the reports about the feelings regarding Jones and Benson are correct.

dunno how the players would react but i suspect you could expect to see TJ fly in to an HGH rage and pummel Benson at some point, Olin Kreutz-style.

 

[sholditch]

I began to listen to the anti-Benson conspiracy when he gt his shoulder dislocated in practice. That seemed a bit much. After watching the line let him get mauled in garbage time I am really beginning to wonder. Plus therer were his teammates that ratted him out to the press. I think Lovie needs to quash this immediately. When it was a feirce training camp battle it was one thing, a good way to motivate bth players. But once Benson got hurt in practice, and now that the hard feelings are apparently carrying over into the regular season, something really needs to be done and it needs to be done now. Lovie is smart enough to know how much the Bears need Benson this season, and if the rest of the team hasn't clued in yet he needs to clue them in. Without heavily involving both backs in the running game we might have a shot at the playoffs. If we can get good production out of both of them and use them both for their strengths, I think we have a legit shot at the SB. Whatever the beef is it needs to be settled, and both players need to be treated as teammates. Until that happens team unity will be off and there will be an achilles heel: take out TJones

 

[Bobcat10]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

Interesting stuff. If the Bears keep winning and Jones stays healthy and is productive but Lovie benches him for Benson anyway it's going to be VERY interesting to see how the players react to that -- assuming the reports about the feelings regarding Jones and Benson are correct.

Lovie is just being a head football coach in the NFL. He found (garbage) time to get his (young/highly tauted) backup RB some carries, which he did not see many of in the preseason. He wants to keep Jones healthy in a game that was in hand.

 

[packersfan]

eta: was sitting on the 30, behind the Bears bench. when Jones was told that Benson was going in, he spiked his helmet near the bench and plopped down. one of the coaches came over and chatted him up... Jones walked to the sideline, knelt down, then watched Benson get TWO carries before tapping his helmet to come out because he was winded.so.... yeah... Jones isn't going to cede this thing easily and ol' Cedric needs to toughen up A LOT.

Interesting stuff. If the Bears keep winning and Jones stays healthy and is productive but Lovie benches him for Benson anyway it's going to be VERY interesting to see how the players react to that -- assuming the reports about the feelings regarding Jones and Benson are correct.

Lovie is just being a head football coach in the NFL. He found (garbage) time to get his (young/highly tauted) backup RB some carries, which he did not see many of in the preseason.

I agree. But he clearly wants Benson to be his starting RB. That's been obvious for months in my opinion. Whether he would have the stones to make such a change if the team is winning and Jones is healthy and playing well is the question.

 

[sholditch]

Lovie needs both backs to be productive and effective to win and he knows that. a 60/40 Jones/Benson split is exactly what the team needs. He needs to get Benson ready to tote the rock 10-15 times per game and give TJones about 20-25. 35-40 RB cpg sounds about right for the Bears.

 

[mr. furley]

now i know why some people consider FF an addiction.

 

[Raider Nation]

No matter who gets the bulk of the carries, the game against the Kitties next Sunday suddenly doesn't look so easy after they made Alexander look like a mere mortal.

 

[sholditch]

Fluke. Bears will be fine.

 

[broncofan13000]

Anyone watch the Bears game today? How did TJ look?

21 att. for 64 yards leaves much to be desired. Benson seems to be no threat, and with Chicago winning, i see no reason why TJ would lose his job. But how is he actually looking out there? Will he pump out RB#2 stats? Or am i holding onto dreams of last couple of years?

 

[Lauryn]

Anyone watch the Bears game today? How did TJ look? 21 att. for 64 yards leaves much to be desired. Benson seems to be no threat, and with Chicago winning, i see no reason why TJ would lose his job. But how is he actually looking out there? Will he pump out RB#2 stats? Or am i holding onto dreams of last couple of years?

he looked pretty avg to me... a few good runs, and several "eh" runs. of course chicago fell in love with passing today so i'm not sure what you can take from today. i've seen better games from him though, that's for sure.

 

[[scooter]]

Too early to tell. He is still the starter and WILL get the bulk of the carries once the team decides to start running.

But for now they are comfortable with Grossman tossing the rock.