Thoughts on a few players? (1 Viewer)

[TheLastDispatch]

Hey guys

MY drafts tomorrow and I wanted to get some thoughts on a few players who I'm not sure what I think about. It's serpentine, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 DEF.

6 points for all TDs, PPR, 1 point per 10 yards rushing, 20 receiving, and 40 passing.

Anyway the players I wanted to get some thoughts on are:

Frank Gore- i've been hearing that he's not the clear cut starter anymore. what do you guys think? when would you take him?

Denver RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds?

Fred Taylor - just not sure about his value.

Deshaun Foster - should i be leery of williams?

Addai - just not sure about his value

Tenn RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds?

Corey Dillon - high TD totals last year, but with maroney there now and his injuries last year i'm not sure about his value.

Ahman Green - worried about his health, gado and the GB offense.

Joe Horn - worried hes not the same as pre-2005

Lee Evans - shaky qb situation... worth takin a shot on? what round?

Drew Bennett - Magic at the end of 04. could he return to form?

Bulger vs Eli Manning. Who would you take?

I know this is alot guys. Any insight on any one of them is greatly appreciated.

TIA

 

[joffer]

Hey guys

MY drafts tomorrow and I wanted to get some thoughts on a few players who I'm not sure what I think about. It's an 8 team league, serpentine, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 DEF.

6 points for all TDs, PPR, 1 point per 10 yards rushing, 20 receiving, and 40 passing.

get more owners

Anyway the players I wanted to get some thoughts on are:

Frank Gore- i've been hearing that he's not the clear cut starter anymore. what do you guys think? when would you take him?

Denver RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds? avoid if possible

Fred Taylor - just not sure about his value. i am, don't draft him

Deshaun Foster - should i be leery of williams? no, be leery of injuries

Addai - just not sure about his value me neither

Tenn RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds? avoid

Corey Dillon - high TD totals last year, but with maroney there now and his injuries last year i'm not sure about his value.

Ahman Green - worried about his health, gado and the GB offense.don't draft

Joe Horn - worried hes not the same as pre-2005 go with that feeling

Lee Evans - shaky qb situation... worth takin a shot on? what round?

Drew Bennett - Magic at the end of 04. could he return to form? no

Bulger vs Eli Manning. Who would you take? Bulger

I know this is alot guys. Any insight on any one of them is greatly appreciated.

TIA

 

[Bristol]

Do as I always do: Take what the draft gives you. Don't expect players to be there or not be there. Set your values for positions and see what falls to you.

My theory is that players with question marks should be avoided at all costs because they are more trouble than what they are worth. Why take the unnecessary stress?

 

[soymex]

hi.

i have an ok feeling about joe horn but remember that brees is the QB and he won't be slinging it downfield. but in that sort of "no man's land" part of the draft as far was WRs where you have people like rod smith and eddie kennison and lee evans kind of people, why not take a chance on horn? so yeah as far as evans, he might be worth a later pick but i think he is going too early for such a crappy offense. last year you never knew if he would score a TD or have 20 yards.

i would feel ok about gore if he was around from round 5 on. he will get the bulk of the carries i bet. if he is around 6th round, i think he is a no-brainer.

foster has some potential to be a good producer. a great producer, even. if you take him 3rd round, some people will mock you-but i would rather have him than droughns or dunn or bell, for instance, personally. if he is there in 4th, i would grab him. but i wouldn't concern myself with taking williams to back up foster because he is going early so you will have to blow a highish pick on him. just take a RB with potential later in the draft (davenport or suggs or blaylock or maroney or someone...)

fred taylor and ahman green i would avoid unless it was like the 7th round. i would rather take greg jones or davenport or gado in the 9th than taylor or green earlier.

denver i would avoid for the time being until things shake out. i guess t. bell in the 5th or later and dayne in the 7th or later is worth a roll of the dice. m. bell i dunno...i think you could look real smart or real dumb. he should probably be taken around the same time as dayne at this point.

indy RBs i think are going to be taken too high right now. because it is still cloudy so you might be blowing a 3rd round pick on a time share situation. i guess either 5th or later is a nice steal though i would lean towards addai. though then again rhodes is the kind of pick people don't really get excited about and he does pretty well. i could see him like mike anderson last year.

dillon looks undervalued. but i wouldn't want to deal with the headaches of sketchy injury reports. probably worth a 6th or later pick though, value-wise.

tenn RBs-maybe wait to see how it shakes up. white maybe overvalued right now and brown undervalued and henry an afterthought. if you want to gamble you could get henry with your last pick.

bennett on tenn i would avoid because i would be paranoid vince young will start some games late in the season and pass for like 70 yards a game with no TDs every game. but other people don't seem so paranoid.

bulger seems a bit undervalued. manning maybe overvalued. manning is probably a better fantasy player but bulger is the better value. i would feel ok with bulger as my fantasy QB.

 

[PahtyTom]

Do as I always do: Take what the draft gives you. Don't expect players to be there or not be there. Set your values for positions and see what falls to you. My theory is that players with question marks should be avoided at all costs because they are more trouble than what they are worth. Why take the unnecessary stress?

What players after the first or second round don't have question marks nowadays?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Thanks for the words of wisdom guys...

One other player I wanted to ask about was Cedcric Houston. The way things are looking for Martin, is Houston worth a shot?

 

[Gopher State]

Frank Gore- i've been hearing that he's not the clear cut starter anymore. what do you guys think? when would you take him?

Denver RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds? Stay away

Fred Taylor - just not sure about his value. No NO

Deshaun Foster - should i be leery of williams? Foster ok but you need to draft williams to

Addai - just not sure about his value. Nope Rhodes wins this job

Tenn RBs - should i just avoid them all together? if not, what rounds? Danger, Danger stay away

Corey Dillon - high TD totals last year, but with maroney there now and his injuries last year i'm not sure about his value. Good value here grab him

Ahman Green - worried about his health, gado and the GB offense. Nope don't buy here

Joe Horn - worried hes not the same as pre-2005. Nope no longer the #1 WR in Saint Land

Lee Evans - shaky qb situation... worth takin a shot on? what round? grab him 6th round of later

Drew Bennett - Magic at the end of 04. could he return to form? No magic left here

Bulger vs Eli Manning. Who would you take? Bulger will never last 16 games, get Eli

I know this is alot guys. Any insight on any one of them is greatly appreciated.

TIA

 

[doughboydeluxe]

In an 8 team league that starts 2 RB, you don't have the RB scarcity that you do in 12 team leagues. I would try to get two RBs that don't have questions (or at least ones you know will be starters), and in an 8 team league you don't even have to go RB-RB to get them. Then roll the dice on some higher risk, high reward players after you have your 2 RB. Most of the guys in your post are older and have limited upside. These are not the guys you want to target after you have your 2 RBs.

 

[flooredyas]

Do as I always do: Take what the draft gives you. Don't expect players to be there or not be there. Set your values for positions and see what falls to you. My theory is that players with question marks should be avoided at all costs because they are more trouble than what they are worth. Why take the unnecessary stress?

What players after the first or second round don't have question marks nowadays?

Why exclude the first 2 rounds?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

In an 8 team league that starts 2 RB, you don't have the RB scarcity that you do in 12 team leagues. I would try to get two RBs that don't have questions (or at least ones you know will be starters), and in an 8 team league you don't even have to go RB-RB to get them. Then roll the dice on some higher risk, high reward players after you have your 2 RB. Most of the guys in your post are older and have limited upside. These are not the guys you want to target after you have your 2 RBs.

Well I know not to target them for starters, but for depth. RB or WR 3 or 4..

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Joe Horn - worried hes not the same as pre-2005. Nope no longer the #1 WR in Saint Land

If he's not, who is? Stallworth, the guy they tried to deal all offseason, or Devery Henderson, the guy who's never done anything?Where you can land Joe Horn in most of the drafts I've seen, you take Joe Horn over a bunch of guys and certainly over the other Saints WRs.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

In an 8-man league you won't even half to consider drafting half of those players.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

In an 8-man league you won't even half to consider drafting half of those players.

...never played an 8 man league? run draft dominator. yes you will.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

In an 8 team league that starts 2 RB, you don't have the RB scarcity that you do in 12 team leagues. I would try to get two RBs that don't have questions (or at least ones you know will be starters), and in an 8 team league you don't even have to go RB-RB to get them. Then roll the dice on some higher risk, high reward players after you have your 2 RB. Most of the guys in your post are older and have limited upside. These are not the guys you want to target after you have your 2 RBs.

Well I know not to target them for starters, but for depth. RB or WR 3 or 4..

If you have two solid starters, what good is a guy with limited upside going to do you?Gore - upside

Denver RBs - some upside, but only if its not RBBC

Taylor - no upside

Foster - upside, especially if handcuffed with Williams

Addai - upside

Tenn RBs - same as Denver but with less upside

Dillon - no upside

Green - no upside

 

[TheLastDispatch]

In an 8 team league that starts 2 RB, you don't have the RB scarcity that you do in 12 team leagues. I would try to get two RBs that don't have questions (or at least ones you know will be starters), and in an 8 team league you don't even have to go RB-RB to get them. Then roll the dice on some higher risk, high reward players after you have your 2 RB. Most of the guys in your post are older and have limited upside. These are not the guys you want to target after you have your 2 RBs.

Well I know not to target them for starters, but for depth. RB or WR 3 or 4..

If you have two solid starters, what good is a guy with limited upside going to do you?Gore - upside

Denver RBs - some upside, but only if its not RBBC

Taylor - no upside

Foster - upside, especially if handcuffed with Williams

Addai - upside

Tenn RBs - same as Denver but with less upside

Dillon - no upside

Green - no upside

Rod Smith doesnt have upside either, but hes someone you can plug in in case of injury or a down year.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

In an 8-man league you won't even half to consider drafting half of those players.

...never played an 8 man league? run draft dominator. yes you will.

No you won't. Again, because you don't have position scarcity, you don't need to worry about many guys who don't have the potential to far exceed their draft position. The guy who wins your league is probably not going to be the guy drafting Dillon, Taylor, and Green in the 6th-8th rounds. The guy who wins your league will be the one gets the breakout guys.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

In an 8-man league you won't even half to consider drafting half of those players.

...never played an 8 man league? run draft dominator. yes you will.

No you won't. Again, because you don't have position scarcity, you don't need to worry about many guys who don't have the potential to far exceed their draft position. The guy who wins your league is probably not going to be the guy drafting Dillon, Taylor, and Green in the 6th-8th rounds. The guy who wins your league will be the one gets the breakout guys.

Honestly, try running draft dominator. I gaurentee they get drafted. Unless you're assuming I'm playing a league with no bench??

Sorry, I'm not sure what the miscommunication is.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

In an 8 team league that starts 2 RB, you don't have the RB scarcity that you do in 12 team leagues. I would try to get two RBs that don't have questions (or at least ones you know will be starters), and in an 8 team league you don't even have to go RB-RB to get them. Then roll the dice on some higher risk, high reward players after you have your 2 RB. Most of the guys in your post are older and have limited upside. These are not the guys you want to target after you have your 2 RBs.

Well I know not to target them for starters, but for depth. RB or WR 3 or 4..

If you have two solid starters, what good is a guy with limited upside going to do you?Gore - upside

Denver RBs - some upside, but only if its not RBBC

Taylor - no upside

Foster - upside, especially if handcuffed with Williams

Addai - upside

Tenn RBs - same as Denver but with less upside

Dillon - no upside

Green - no upside

Rod Smith doesnt have upside either, but hes someone you can plug in in case of injury or a down year.

When I was talking upside, I was referring to RBs. Receivers you can look for more dependability.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

In an 8-man league you won't even half to consider drafting half of those players.

...never played an 8 man league? run draft dominator. yes you will.

No you won't. Again, because you don't have position scarcity, you don't need to worry about many guys who don't have the potential to far exceed their draft position. The guy who wins your league is probably not going to be the guy drafting Dillon, Taylor, and Green in the 6th-8th rounds. The guy who wins your league will be the one gets the breakout guys.

Honestly, try running draft dominator. I gaurentee they get drafted. Unless you're assuming I'm playing a league with no bench??

Sorry, I'm not sure what the miscommunication is.

Yes they will get drafted. BUT NOT BY YOU IF YOU WANT TO WIN.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

anyone else have thoughts on these guys?