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Thoughts on Alex Green going forward? (1 Viewer)
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Those are my thoughts. He looked pretty solid as a runner. hes used to running out of the shotgun from college. Hes a good pass receiver. He whiffed on one block but otherwise I thought he was solid in pass protection. I like him.
Hendo
Footballguy
I think hes under rated due to starks and his injury from last year but he did well lastnight in my eyes against a tough defense. His first half was really good, slid some in the second but he does have more explosive plays in him then any other RB on that team (41yrd scamper last week) and they fed him the ball 22 times lastnight..
A possible RB3 and FLEX looks about right till we see more but he has a very encouraging skill set (can catch too) for that team. I might add I liked the pass blocking he did aside of one play to boot.
A possible RB3 and FLEX looks about right till we see more but he has a very encouraging skill set (can catch too) for that team. I might add I liked the pass blocking he did aside of one play to boot.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yup...good flex player at times and should be a comfortable bye week fill in...with the upside that you mention.The problem will be his head coach and how many times he actually will run the football.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I think he can fill the role as a RB#3. He won't see that many carries most games because Green Bay won't be that far ahead every week and I think Starks will start to take a few carries when he gets a little healthier but Green will be seeing a lot of action for the next several weeks. I think projecting him as a RB#2 would be a stretch for me because even their main RB the past few years was a weak RB2/good RB3 type player.
packersfan
Footballguy
Tons of positives last night:
1. He dominated the RB touches. Kuhn was the third-down RB but barely touched the ball. Starks saw most of his snaps in garbage time and looked putrid. He ran like my dead grandmother. I honestly can't believe people were talking him up. He's not very good and as I posted in the Green/Starks thread, the Packers clearly know what they have with him. I've posted several times about the team's belief in Green and it was obvious how they felt about him last night.
2. As others said, he held up pretty well in pass protection. That's the major concern with all young RBs (and Green is essentially a rookie) but I thought he did well.
3. He was used near the goal line. He got a carry at the 2 and although he didn't score the fact he was on the field there and got the call ahead of Kuhn was a positive sign.
I would like to see the Packers use him more in the passing game. He was good in space in college and has the ability to make people miss. Maybe his role will evolve like Benson's where he's getting a few receptions per game. For now, I'd rank him in the 25-30 range among RBs. Rock-solid flex with some mild RB2 upside. I wouldn't anticipate many more 20+ carry games but if you're looking for the primary RB on a team with massive offensive potential he's definitely the guy right now.
1. He dominated the RB touches. Kuhn was the third-down RB but barely touched the ball. Starks saw most of his snaps in garbage time and looked putrid. He ran like my dead grandmother. I honestly can't believe people were talking him up. He's not very good and as I posted in the Green/Starks thread, the Packers clearly know what they have with him. I've posted several times about the team's belief in Green and it was obvious how they felt about him last night.
2. As others said, he held up pretty well in pass protection. That's the major concern with all young RBs (and Green is essentially a rookie) but I thought he did well.
3. He was used near the goal line. He got a carry at the 2 and although he didn't score the fact he was on the field there and got the call ahead of Kuhn was a positive sign.
I would like to see the Packers use him more in the passing game. He was good in space in college and has the ability to make people miss. Maybe his role will evolve like Benson's where he's getting a few receptions per game. For now, I'd rank him in the 25-30 range among RBs. Rock-solid flex with some mild RB2 upside. I wouldn't anticipate many more 20+ carry games but if you're looking for the primary RB on a team with massive offensive potential he's definitely the guy right now.
The_Fonz
Footballguy
I am encouraged as a guy who needs help at RB. He got a lot of touches and could be the bell cow there. Tough matchup last night but he did nothing to hurt his case to remain the starter. He has a nice burst that if he gets some room he will break some good runs. I'm holding!
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Loved the way he waited for his blocks. There were a few runs where you could see him slow down and wait for the hole to develop instead of just putting his head down and barreling forward.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ran really well at times, and definitely kept the defense honest. There were lots of times last night that it was clear that the defense had to shift in order to keep Green from breaking those 6-7 yard runs toward Glover Quin's side of the field, and it led to a big, big night through the air for Rodgers and the receivers. He looked solid on the one reception I saw out of the backfield - if he can do that a couple times next week, he's a legit RB2 in my opinion. Otherwise, he's still a weekly flex.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
I also think the Packers O Line didn't open a lot of running lanes. Considering what he had to work with he did a solid job I thought. Probably a RB3/Flex if the matchup is pretty decent.
Dark Matter
Footballguy
I thought he ran well but he doesn't seem to have "it" just yet IMO. I would like to see better vision, wiggle and explosion at the end of runs. Green is a better fit than Starks and will keep defenses honest which is all McCarthy wants in his RB's.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Bump Green.
Packers placed RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve with a torn ACL, ending his season.
A second-year UDFA out of Ohio State, Saine has been unremarkable in his brief career, rushing 18 times for 69 yards in his first season but showing some passing-down chops. The ACL tear could threaten Saine's long-term NFL outlook.
Packers placed RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve with a torn ACL, ending his season.
A second-year UDFA out of Ohio State, Saine has been unremarkable in his brief career, rushing 18 times for 69 yards in his first season but showing some passing-down chops. The ACL tear could threaten Saine's long-term NFL outlook.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Packers head coach Mike McCarthy confirmed that Alex Green will be the team's lead running back moving forward.
With Cedric Benson (foot, Lisfranc) on injured reserve designated for return and Brandon Saine (torn ACL) out for the remainder of the season, Green is going to be Green Bay's starting running back moving forward. Green is coming off a 2011 torn ACL of his own, but he is "already past the rep count" and there is "no reason to think he can't carry a full load." He was clearly the feature back on Sunday night in Houston, and he'll be a weekly RB2/flex play for the foreseeable future.
With Cedric Benson (foot, Lisfranc) on injured reserve designated for return and Brandon Saine (torn ACL) out for the remainder of the season, Green is going to be Green Bay's starting running back moving forward. Green is coming off a 2011 torn ACL of his own, but he is "already past the rep count" and there is "no reason to think he can't carry a full load." He was clearly the feature back on Sunday night in Houston, and he'll be a weekly RB2/flex play for the foreseeable future.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Man it's nice when a coach is straightforward with stuff like this. Great RB3 here, with RB2 possibilities.
ponchsox
Footballguy
He could turn out to be the ww darling of the year (I'm not counting Morris as he was drafted in many leagues.)so glad i went all in for this guy
packersfan
Footballguy
I think he'll really need to blow up to get that kind of recognition. To do that I think he'll need more receptions and/or TDs. Not sure about the latter in this offense although as I posted earlier it was very encouraging to see him in for the goal-line snaps last night. I went all in to get him in my league to replace Ryan Williams. If he can be a low-end RB2/high-end RB3 I'll be happy. I think that's very possible in this offense. Anything beyond that would be a bonus in my opinion.He could turn out to be the ww darling of the year (I'm not counting Morris as he was drafted in many leagues.)
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I like that he is still getting up to 100%. He may not have peaked, and is tailor-made for a 3 or 4 wide, spread passing offense. Eddie George lite, or Arian Foster lite. I will likely end up starting him over Steven Jackson quite a few times.
Got a weird vibe he may be such an overall good talent running and catching the ball that he could be the focal point of the Packers Offense.
The guy is 6,0 225 lbs. He could take the starting gig and not look back.
Lots of upside as a pass catching back in the Packers offense.
The guy is 6,0 225 lbs. He could take the starting gig and not look back.
Lots of upside as a pass catching back in the Packers offense.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Green will without a doubt have some good games. But how many? - the question is which games will he be RB2 (a couple) and RB4 (most)? Kuhn will continue to be the 3rd down back because of Green's inability to do blitz pick up (Starks M.O. also), and Kuhn will stay the goal line back in most situations. Of course that matters little since Rodgers will still be taking many short td runs (like he did in houston, called back by penalty), or, more often, just passing the ball.
I just can't get that excited about his FF potential
I just can't get that excited about his FF potential
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Probably not since Brandon Saine was lost for the season with a torn ACL.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Let's not get carried away. I'm pretty sure Rodgers is the focal point of the offense and with Jennings (when he's back), Nelson, Cobb and James Jones it isn't like the Packers are starving for a new talent that can act as the focal point of their offense.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
I don't think you watched the game. I watched most of it. 80% of his blocking was just fine. 
That's what I'm waiting to see. I picked Green up in a dynasty league where he's my 4th rb but he's going this week since Demarco hurt his ######.... I mean foot. I like the potential of Green but I was worried about Kuhn being the GL back and them using Cobb out the backfield like they have done earlier in the year. I liked that he got 22 carries in his first game but I feel the jury is still out about GL carries.
Rushmore
Footballguy
I thought he looked good in protection. I did notice a mistake later in the game, but overall he looked fine. The encouraging thing about his pass-blocking is that he seems very adept in blitz pick-up. Sustaining the blocks is where he can improve, which is correctable with work on technique. One thing that intrigues me about Green is his pass catching ability. I could see him being worked into the game plan specifically with this in mind. If the passing game keeps clicking, Green could also see some BIG lanes.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He looked like the Rams had a better DL then I thought
packersfan
Footballguy
Lucky to get the yardage he ended up with. Rams' D line won nearly every battle on running plays. The stats don't look good for Green running the ball but that was all about how good St. Louis was against the run today.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Thanks for the info, could possibly make him a good buy low target. The GB O-Line seemed decent at run blocking before this game.
shadyridr
Footballguy
20 carries two weeks in a row, gets catches out of the backfield, gets goal line carries. seriously loving this guy. yes i know his ypc isnt there and might not be all year. the gb oline is not good. that being said i love him as a flex with rb2 upside for the rest of the year.
packersfan
Footballguy
I was hoping Green would get more involved in the passing game the way Benson did. That happened today. Had 4 receptions and it should've been 5 but he dropped an easy one right in his hands.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
JFS171
Footballguy
Ruh roh, Shaggy.
Bloom seems to be a Johnny White fan... curious if he gets a shot. I think the Starks talk needs to stop. We know what James Starks is, and it isn't that good. The Packers know the same.
With ZERO intention to work Starks in, I'm starting to wonder if White's the guy that gets the next shot. Still think Green gets one more chance, but he probably did leave some yards on the field. STL owned the line of scrimmage, but Green's game isn't East & West; gotta square the shoulders, get North and South. Look at how Ryan Grant used to run... with Rodgers and the receivers, someone to plow straight ahead is all they need.
Am I crazy to think of White?
Bloom seems to be a Johnny White fan... curious if he gets a shot. I think the Starks talk needs to stop. We know what James Starks is, and it isn't that good. The Packers know the same.
With ZERO intention to work Starks in, I'm starting to wonder if White's the guy that gets the next shot. Still think Green gets one more chance, but he probably did leave some yards on the field. STL owned the line of scrimmage, but Green's game isn't East & West; gotta square the shoulders, get North and South. Look at how Ryan Grant used to run... with Rodgers and the receivers, someone to plow straight ahead is all they need.
Am I crazy to think of White?
packersfan
Footballguy
For now yes. I could be wrong, been wrong before, but I still believe Green's the guy with Kuhn sprinkled in. I agree with you about the Starks talk. But one of the things I dislike about RotoWorld is they get a personal opinion about a player and they won't budge off it no matter what. They've been anti-Green and pro-Starks since Benson went down. They keep talking up Starks even though the Packers have shown no desire whatsoever to play him. Could that change? Sure. Anything's possible. But I think Green is going to get every opportunity to be the guy here. So far, that's clearly been the case.ETA - these quotes from McCarthy sound a lot like the pass protection quotes before Green's first start. Green's a young RB who the Packers are very high on so they're going to push him to get better. I think you could make a strong argument that's what is going on here. Not an indication of dissatisfaction but a way to try and push Green to be better.
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habsfan
Footballguy
I'm not dismissing this but I am noting that the bolded statements appear to be outside the quotation marks...
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Great point. I like RW for news but you have to -- like with any site -- take their analysis with a grain of salt. For example, Chris Wesseling brings up good facts and stats but watch the opinion aspects. He kept pushing Austin Collie when most other places weren't, for instance. He only backed off when Collie went down with the leg injury. But overall RW is a useful site and I digress.As far as analysis on this board, I think packersfan's is among the best, especially concerning RBs. He was out in front on the RB situation in AZ this year, for example. I agree with what packersfan said about Green but think the door is still cracked open because Green hasn't been stellar. It's worth keeping Starks on a watch list at least because he's shown some ability in the past.
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GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
any thoughts about them being desperate enough to bring back Ryan Grant?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
well he's in washington, unless he got cut
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He was cut.
packersfan
Footballguy
What makes you think the Packers are desperate?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Green still looks like he's thinking too much, stuck in quicksand while looking to make a move. He needs to just hit the damn hole and see what opens up from there.
