Thoughts on this draft ruling (1 Viewer)

[yortstop]

Ok its a second year 10 team dynasty. Pretty crazy scoring as well as starting some 40 players including start 2 QB's. Anywho, the draft was to start last Friday and did even though the team with the first pick hadnt even logged onto the sight. I pre-drafted cause I wasnt going to around and was picking #4 so was an easy pre-draft to do. I origionally had pick #6 but dealt Garrard and the #6 to move to #4 hoping that being a league where QB's hold a lot of weight that one of the top 3 guys fall thru. Ok....Somehow pick one goes down and is the obvious AP then #2 takes CJ and then the crazyness beggins. #3 accidently pre-drafts AP from the Bears and I land Lynch due to my pre-draft. The team picking #5 refuses to pick until a ruling is made. The ruling they come down with is to scratch the draft and restart it all over again this coming Friday. Yikes....while I'm all for giving the guy who screw'd up on his pre-draft a break. Can you actually restart a draft? Hahaha. Well just venting a bit.

Thoughts or questions appreciated

 

[TBLCommish]

I think the guy that had AP listed in his draft list deserves to get him. Thats the HUGE difference between "AD" His real nickname and AP the one so many of you insist on calling him.

Regardless, if this guy is a quality GM he would have known the difference and not had AP (from the Bears on his list)

Please keep us posted as to what the "ruling" is

 

[coolnerd]

I would say that the way to avoid this is to have a one line note in the rules that says, "Pick carefully, as your pick is final once it is recorded by MFL(or whatever system)"

I understand that the commish is trying to fix an obvious mistake, and I get why he's doing it, but opens a can of worms. What if an owner, makes a mistake that is not as clear cut, ex: Roydell Williams over Reggie Williams? Do you fix that one also?

 

[GregR_2]

I would say that the way to avoid this is to have a one line note in the rules that says, "Pick carefully, as your pick is final once it is recorded by MFL(or whatever system)" I understand that the commish is trying to fix an obvious mistake, and I get why he's doing it, but opens a can of worms. What if an owner, makes a mistake that is not as clear cut, ex: Roydell Williams over Reggie Williams? Do you fix that one also?

In a case where there are easy-to-make-mistakes like this that owners may not have been aware of, I think an appropriate way to handle it is to first fix the mistake. Then second, inform the entire league so everyone is equally aware of it, and set your standard for how it will be handled in the future now that everyone has had notice. In this case, by making the pick stand going forward.I think the commish in this case did the right thing.

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think the guy that had AP listed in his draft list deserves to get him. Thats the HUGE difference between "AD" His real nickname and AP the one so many of you insist on calling him.Regardless, if this guy is a quality GM he would have known the difference and not had AP (from the Bears on his list)Please keep us posted as to what the "ruling" is

In the league I commish I tell my guys and gals to pay attention because they're responsible for their own team and I'm not gonna help.

 

[yortstop]

I think the guy that had AP listed in his draft list deserves to get him. Thats the HUGE difference between "AD" His real nickname and AP the one so many of you insist on calling him.Regardless, if this guy is a quality GM he would have known the difference and not had AP (from the Bears on his list)Please keep us posted as to what the "ruling" is

The ruling is starting draft over....I sent an email with concerns to the league but not going to push the issue cause it makes me seem greedy in landing lynch at 4. Not sure anyone else will make a fuss cause it only mostly affects the pick made at 4 which just so happend to be me. It is what it is I guess....

 

[BroadwayG]

If it's a rookie/vet draft, he's stuck. If it's rookie only, revert back to his pick.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been in leagues where somebody took Ricky Williams from IND by accident. If the guy made a mistake, let him fix it. It's not like he waited 15 rounds and then wanted a do over.

 

[yortstop]

I've been in leagues where somebody took Ricky Williams from IND by accident. If the guy made a mistake, let him fix it. It's not like he waited 15 rounds and then wanted a do over.

So by fix it do you mean revert draft back to him...removing all picks made after him?

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been in leagues where somebody took Ricky Williams from IND by accident. If the guy made a mistake, let him fix it. It's not like he waited 15 rounds and then wanted a do over.

So by fix it do you mean revert draft back to him...removing all picks made after him?

1) Halt draft2) Replace erroneous pick with proper pick3) Dump all picks since that pick4) Start draft up again with slot after screwed up pickBy your description . . .PICK 1: ADP (seems legit)PICK 2: CJ (seems legit)PICK 3: Get rid of AP, CHI, waiting for replacement/proper pickPICK 4: Get rid of Lynch, will get to pick after Proper Pick 3 is madeThat's what I would do as a commish (and have done in the past). Not sure why your commish wants to start all over, but I guess the #1 and #2 picks will turn out the same.As for "can you restart a draft", commishes have the ability to easily do anything with today's software/websites. If it was an honest mistake I'd let the guy repick.

 

[radballs]

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

 

[Tom Servo]

#3 accidently pre-drafts AP from the Bears and I land Lynch due to my pre-draft. The team picking #5 refuses to pick until a ruling is made. The ruling they come down with is to scratch the draft and restart it all over again this coming Friday. Yikes....while I'm all for giving the guy who screw'd up on his pre-draft a break. Can you actually restart a draft? Hahaha. Well just venting a bit.

Thoughts or questions appreciated

To guy #3 I say, "Sorry 'bout your darn luck. Good luck with that Adrian Peterson." Draft then proceeds as planned.My which is more than what it's worth.

 

[Tom Servo]

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

Why would the OP being keeping Lynch under "false pretenses"? To me, it's apparent the #3 owner wanted Adrian Peterson of the Vikings. Am I missing something?

 

[radballs]

#3 accidently pre-drafts AP from the Bears and I land Lynch due to my pre-draft. The team picking #5 refuses to pick until a ruling is made. The ruling they come down with is to scratch the draft and restart it all over again this coming Friday. Yikes....while I'm all for giving the guy who screw'd up on his pre-draft a break. Can you actually restart a draft? Hahaha. Well just venting a bit.

Thoughts or questions appreciated

To guy #3 I say, "Sorry 'bout your darn luck. Good luck with that Adrian Peterson." Draft then proceeds as planned.My which is more than what it's worth.

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

Why would the OP being keeping Lynch under "false pretenses"? To me, it's apparent the #3 owner wanted Adrian Peterson of the Vikings. Am I missing something?

Yeah, you're missing something.

 

[Tom Servo]

#3 accidently pre-drafts AP from the Bears and I land Lynch due to my pre-draft. The team picking #5 refuses to pick until a ruling is made. The ruling they come down with is to scratch the draft and restart it all over again this coming Friday. Yikes....while I'm all for giving the guy who screw'd up on his pre-draft a break. Can you actually restart a draft? Hahaha. Well just venting a bit.

Thoughts or questions appreciated

To guy #3 I say, "Sorry 'bout your darn luck. Good luck with that Adrian Peterson." Draft then proceeds as planned.My which is more than what it's worth.

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

Why would the OP being keeping Lynch under "false pretenses"? To me, it's apparent the #3 owner wanted Adrian Peterson of the Vikings. Am I missing something?

Yeah, you're missing something.

OK, I'll admit I am. Are you saying guy #3 would have taken Lynch and not Viking Peterson?

 

[radballs]

#3 accidently pre-drafts AP from the Bears and I land Lynch due to my pre-draft. The team picking #5 refuses to pick until a ruling is made. The ruling they come down with is to scratch the draft and restart it all over again this coming Friday. Yikes....while I'm all for giving the guy who screw'd up on his pre-draft a break. Can you actually restart a draft? Hahaha. Well just venting a bit.

Thoughts or questions appreciated

To guy #3 I say, "Sorry 'bout your darn luck. Good luck with that Adrian Peterson." Draft then proceeds as planned.My which is more than what it's worth.

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

Why would the OP being keeping Lynch under "false pretenses"? To me, it's apparent the #3 owner wanted Adrian Peterson of the Vikings. Am I missing something?

Yeah, you're missing something.

OK, I'll admit I am. Are you saying guy #3 would have taken Lynch and not Viking Peterson?

Yes, he predrafted the wrong Adrian Peterson. So, the wrong Adrian Peterson was still available after the right one was drafted first and CJ was drafted second. I'm sure Lynch has gone no later than third in dynasty drafts unless it's a start 2 QB league. My question to the original poster is why he would want to better his team under false pretenses when it was apparently an honest mistake. I agree with Yudkin above about how I would have handled it as commish.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Quit the league. That is your only move here.

 

[Bada Bing]

I had this happen in my dynasty league. The only difference was that he drafted Peterson(Bears) in the second round thinking Peterson(Vikings) was still available. I did not change the pick. The only time I will change a pick is if the owner makes a pick and immediately realizes he messed up and calls me. In this case the owner did not know he had picked the wrong player until days after and then only because someone told him.

 

[jetmonkey]

I'm the jackass that predrafted Adrian Peterson (CHI)

I knew I was going to be out of town so I tried to do the right thing by predrafting three players since I had the 1.03 pick. I put in Peterson (MIN), I thought anyway, because I've seen crazier things happen in a fantasy draft.

I am going to guess the commish did not receive return contact from all owners before starting the draft. I commish several leagues, and this is something I insist on.

So I guess the timer runs out on 1.01 because apparently he does not check email for weeks at a time during the offseason. Somehow two players are drafted before me anyway, not really sure how, then my pick comes and I get AP CHI.

Now the rules state that this is a rookie only draft. I checked immediately when I got home and saw the error. If they did not I was prepared to suffer my own stupidity and take AP CHI. But, since the rules state rookie draft only, and since I was trying to do the right thing by predrafting instead of holding everything up, I think the commish made the right call. He has now described what will happen to people who draft vets in the future, whereas before a rule did not exist.

And yortstop, you can relax. The draft will go AP, CJ, JR, and you will still get ML. I told you days ago that I was drafting Russell with my pick. That has not changed. The commish could have looked at my predraft and made that substitution if he had wanted to.

 

[RC94]

I've been in leagues where somebody took Ricky Williams from IND by accident. If the guy made a mistake, let him fix it. It's not like he waited 15 rounds and then wanted a do over.

So by fix it do you mean revert draft back to him...removing all picks made after him?

1) Halt draft2) Replace erroneous pick with proper pick3) Dump all picks since that pick4) Start draft up again with slot after screwed up pickBy your description . . .PICK 1: ADP (seems legit)PICK 2: CJ (seems legit)PICK 3: Get rid of AP, CHI, waiting for replacement/proper pickPICK 4: Get rid of Lynch, will get to pick after Proper Pick 3 is madeThat's what I would do as a commish (and have done in the past). Not sure why your commish wants to start all over, but I guess the #1 and #2 picks will turn out the same.As for "can you restart a draft", commishes have the ability to easily do anything with today's software/websites. If it was an honest mistake I'd let the guy repick.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm the jackass that predrafted Adrian Peterson (CHI) I knew I was going to be out of town so I tried to do the right thing by predrafting three players since I had the 1.03 pick. I put in Peterson (MIN), I thought anyway, because I've seen crazier things happen in a fantasy draft. I am going to guess the commish did not receive return contact from all owners before starting the draft. I commish several leagues, and this is something I insist on. So I guess the timer runs out on 1.01 because apparently he does not check email for weeks at a time during the offseason. Somehow two players are drafted before me anyway, not really sure how, then my pick comes and I get AP CHI.Now the rules state that this is a rookie only draft. I checked immediately when I got home and saw the error. If they did not I was prepared to suffer my own stupidity and take AP CHI. But, since the rules state rookie draft only, and since I was trying to do the right thing by predrafting instead of holding everything up, I think the commish made the right call. He has now described what will happen to people who draft vets in the future, whereas before a rule did not exist.And yortstop, you can relax. The draft will go AP, CJ, JR, and you will still get ML. I told you days ago that I was drafting Russell with my pick. That has not changed. The commish could have looked at my predraft and made that substitution if he had wanted to.

At least you didn't pick the wrong SJax or something.....This will be a common problem all year with so many duplicate names in the league now. Adrian Peterson, Steve Smith, Chris Henry, etc. Time for a "how to fix your rulebook" post.

 

[GregR_2]

I'm the jackass that predrafted Adrian Peterson (CHI)

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Now the rules state that this is a rookie only draft. I checked immediately when I got home and saw the error. If they did not I was prepared to suffer my own stupidity and take AP CHI. But, since the rules state rookie draft only, and since I was trying to do the right thing by predrafting instead of holding everything up, I think the commish made the right call. He has now described what will happen to people who draft vets in the future, whereas before a rule did not exist.

And yortstop, you can relax. The draft will go AP, CJ, JR, and you will still get ML. I told you days ago that I was drafting Russell with my pick. That has not changed. The commish could have looked at my predraft and made that substitution if he had wanted to.

Since vorstop has already voiced his support that your pick of a veteran in a rookie draft should stand, I'd suggest you draft the best vet player on his team.

 

[FTRWRTR]

Now I would love to see adrian petereson(CHI) becoming a stud this season...that would be so awesome

 

[Clayton Gray]

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

 

[stevegamer]

Did the commish gave him the other Adrian Peterson? That's weird.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Had something similar happen in a league I commish. I drafted AD, already having AP on my roster. Did a Chargers/Eli postpick trade scenrio with another owner, and sent him AD for CJ and other stuff. Was then trying to trade for McNabb later on with another owner, and he sent me 3 different offers. One was McNabb for AP (CHI). While it did seem odd, I jumped on it, just thinking that he really liked him and his situation, or something. A few minutes later, he says "Oh. That was the Chicago Peterson." As bad as I hated to, I reversed the trade.

 

[yortstop]

Why would you want to be able to keep Lynch under such false pretenses? It's obvious what happened with his predraft. The commish not only made the proper decision, but if he had made any other, he wouldn't be a good commissioner.

I was more currious about the restarting a draft than keeping any such players and if it has been done before......and what others have done in such situations. Either way its cool if he is given the opportunity to redraft or draft of existing player or whatever their ruling is. I suppose what comes of it is that others will be knowlegeable of the circumstance and have safe guards so my mission is successful. I'm not like your pretenses and havnt made a stink other than it didnt make sence to restart the draft cause the first two picks are going to be the same no matter what only 3 and 4 have any effect.

 

[yortstop]

I'm the jackass that predrafted Adrian Peterson (CHI)

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Now the rules state that this is a rookie only draft. I checked immediately when I got home and saw the error. If they did not I was prepared to suffer my own stupidity and take AP CHI. But, since the rules state rookie draft only, and since I was trying to do the right thing by predrafting instead of holding everything up, I think the commish made the right call. He has now described what will happen to people who draft vets in the future, whereas before a rule did not exist.

And yortstop, you can relax. The draft will go AP, CJ, JR, and you will still get ML. I told you days ago that I was drafting Russell with my pick. That has not changed. The commish could have looked at my predraft and made that substitution if he had wanted to.

Since vorstop has already voiced his support that your pick of a veteran in a rookie draft should stand, I'd suggest you draft the best vet player on his team.

Its yortstop but I never suggested he should keep the player pick just the validity of restarting a draft in general...sorry if post wasnt worded right anywho none of it matters cause I suppose we have bigger issues with an owner thats AWOL who made a pick lol.

 

[radballs]

it didnt make sence to restart the draft cause the first two picks are going to be the same no matter what only 3 and 4 have any effect.

What's the difference whether it's rolled back to the first pick or the third? I mean, it really only needs to be rolled back to the third pick but how does that affect anything if the commish rolls it back to number one and the same two picks come off the board as they did before.

 

[jetmonkey]

it didnt make sence to restart the draft cause the first two picks are going to be the same no matter what only 3 and 4 have any effect.

What's the difference whether it's rolled back to the first pick or the third? I mean, it really only needs to be rolled back to the third pick but how does that affect anything if the commish rolls it back to number one and the same two picks come off the board as they did before.

I'm sure everything will work out fine this Friday.Well, not 100% sure, since I'm still the only one of the first four picks who has predrafted.

 

[ookook]

I suspect that the commish is rolling back the draft to 1.01 to try to make sure everyone is actually ready and invovled.

That way s/he can find a replacement is the first owner has not logged in by then.

Otherwise, you just get to the second round and have a bigger problem.

I think it is the right call.

 

[ookook]

I think the guy that had AP listed in his draft list deserves to get him.

I disagree for all of the reasons stated above. I want the challenge of playing fairly against owners' actual decisions, not errant clicks of a mouse.I suspect we have different definitions of "deserve" and yours might change more on self interest than my own.What happens when a fantasy site actually gives you a different player than you click on? (Yes, has happened). Should you be forced to keep him? How would you know the owner were telling the truth?What matters is intention, in this as most things ethical.

 

[nysfl2]

I'm the jackass that predrafted Adrian Peterson (CHI)

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Now the rules state that this is a rookie only draft. I checked immediately when I got home and saw the error. If they did not I was prepared to suffer my own stupidity and take AP CHI. But, since the rules state rookie draft only, and since I was trying to do the right thing by predrafting instead of holding everything up, I think the commish made the right call. He has now described what will happen to people who draft vets in the future, whereas before a rule did not exist.

And yortstop, you can relax. The draft will go AP, CJ, JR, and you will still get ML. I told you days ago that I was drafting Russell with my pick. That has not changed. The commish could have looked at my predraft and made that substitution if he had wanted to.

Since vorstop has already voiced his support that your pick of a veteran in a rookie draft should stand, I'd suggest you draft the best vet player on his team.

Its yortstop but I never suggested he should keep the player pick just the validity of restarting a draft in general...sorry if post wasnt worded right anywho none of it matters cause I suppose we have bigger issues with an owner thats AWOL who made a pick lol.

What if AWOL owner decides he wants CJ instead of AD? If owner 2 really wanted CJ, he gets screwed by this.What if AD blows out a knee in practice between now and Friday?

Commissioner should just restart draft at pick #3.

I would not want to be in a league where the commissioner doesn't have the power to fix an obvious mistake that is caught as quickly as this one was.

 

[videoguy505]

Had something like this happen in a live draft on CBS, guy made his pick, but got booted off the site and his predraft ranked player got chosen instead. IM'd the commish and we backed up the 6 or so picks and re-started from the flawed pick. No complaints.

Turned out everything went exactly the same anyway.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I've been in leagues where somebody took Ricky Williams from IND by accident. If the guy made a mistake, let him fix it. It's not like he waited 15 rounds and then wanted a do over.

So by fix it do you mean revert draft back to him...removing all picks made after him?

1) Halt draft2) Replace erroneous pick with proper pick3) Dump all picks since that pick4) Start draft up again with slot after screwed up pickBy your description . . .PICK 1: ADP (seems legit)PICK 2: CJ (seems legit)PICK 3: Get rid of AP, CHI, waiting for replacement/proper pickPICK 4: Get rid of Lynch, will get to pick after Proper Pick 3 is madeThat's what I would do as a commish (and have done in the past). Not sure why your commish wants to start all over, but I guess the #1 and #2 picks will turn out the same.As for "can you restart a draft", commishes have the ability to easily do anything with today's software/websites. If it was an honest mistake I'd let the guy repick.

exactly.This is the proper way to fix a mistake made by accidentally taking a different player with the same name.

 

[Ned]

this is far from original. happens all the time. see steven jackson (stl & car), ricky williams (ind & mia), etc etc etc

commish did the right thing. easy fix.