Tim Tebow in the NFL (1 Viewer)

[DawgPoundNJ]

Sometimes mechanics can be overrated.Philip Rivers does not have great mechanics, yet he's a top 5 QB. And the other way around with a handful of players in the league.

Bernie Kosar had famously bad mechanics. Seems he did all right.Going back further, Archie Manning was another no-mechanics guy ... the antithesis of Peyton.

Same thing I was thinking, but didn't want to invite a Bernie Kosar bashfest with my homerism.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's faster than Roethlisberger, who makes his living scrambling.

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

 

[CalBear]

Improving mechanics/footwork is great in theory, but not likely.

I vote for a good, but short NFL career as an H-back/FB/TE plus wildcat type QB.

You think it's easier to come into the NFL and learn a completely new position than it is to learn mechanics and footwork in the position you've played all your life?

 

[mbuehner]

Improving mechanics/footwork is great in theory, but not likely.

I vote for a good, but short NFL career as an H-back/FB/TE plus wildcat type QB.

You think it's easier to come into the NFL and learn a completely new position than it is to learn mechanics and footwork in the position you've played all your life?

I think there is a good argument that its easier to learn a new position than to break a lifetime worth of bad habits.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Sometimes mechanics can be overrated.Philip Rivers does not have great mechanics, yet he's a top 5 QB. And the other way around with a handful of players in the league.

Bernie Kosar had famously bad mechanics. Seems he did all right.Going back further, Archie Manning was another no-mechanics guy ... the antithesis of Peyton.

Same thing I was thinking, but didn't want to invite a Bernie Kosar bashfest with my homerism.

It was frustrating as hell watching a 6'5 QB get passes tipped every week because he threw them from the release point of a 5'8 QB.

 

[Raider Nation]

I voted "regular starting QB".

Once he gets with an NFL-caliber QB coach, he can be taught proper mechanics. He already has many of the qualities you look for in a NFL QB, most importantly being a leader of men. Put Tebow's heart and intangibles (toughness, drive, never-say-die attitude) in JaMarcus Russell's body, and you'd have a Hall of Fame QB.

Okay, scratch that. He stinks.

 

[Andy Herron]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.

The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.

And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

 

[flapgreen]

Righetti owning it with the thread icons

 

[two_dollars]

Stud. All Pro QB. He'll redefine the QB position.

 

[fsufan]

Winners know how to win. If he was playing on the Raiders right now they would be a .500 ball club. Will he be the next Manning or Brees probably not.

this is just silly

 

[fsufan]

All Tebow does is win.

it does help with all that talent around him

 

[two_dollars]

All Tebow does is win.

it does help with all that talent around him

I know, I said the same thing about Aikman.

 

[fsufan]

All Tebow does is win.

it does help with all that talent around him

I know, I said the same thing about Aikman.

so now Tebow is a HOF when is he going to walk on water

 

[Gopher State]

He be the next big Russell or Leaf bust in the NFL.

 

[Raider Nation]

He be the next big Russell or Leaf bust in the NFL.

Not possible. Those guys came with expectations.

 

[gianmarco]

He be the next big Russell or Leaf bust in the NFL.

Not possible. Those guys came with expectations.

And no discipline or work ethic.

 

[SSOG]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

He be the next big Russell or Leaf bust in the NFL.

Not possible. Those guys came with expectations.

Stud. All Pro QB. He'll redefine the QB position.

 

[SSOG]

He be the next big Russell or Leaf bust in the NFL.

Not possible. Those guys came with expectations.

Stud. All Pro QB. He'll redefine the QB position.

career backup QB [ 37 ] ** [18.41%]occasional wildcat QB [ 33 ] ** [16.42%]out of the league in a few years [ 38 ] ** [18.91%]not a QB but an NFL player [ 27 ] ** [13.43%]

 

[FavreCo]

A zero.

 

[Raider Nation]

He cost himself a lot of money today, being exposed against an elite defense.

Questions remain about his ability to be a quarterback at the next level. Urban Meyer's Florida offense has put Tebow in ideal conditions to succeed, so it remains to be seen how he will respond in passing situations against NFL defenses. Tebow has no fear sitting in the pocket, but he needs to do a better job of feeling pressure. His delivery on passes also starts way too low and has to change before he can become an NFL quarterback. Defensive linemen will have a field day of knocking the ball out of his hand if he continues with this same throwing motion. Tebow will not be as good in the pros (after all, he is one of the best players in college football history), but he cannot be discounted either. In fact, it would not be surprising to see him off the board in the first round of the 2010 draft.

It would NOW.

 

[Andy Herron]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

You've got to be kidding.Nearly every player entering next year's draft has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted, of which Tebow does not. Not by a long shot.I could name thousands of players more proven over the last 50 years. Poor challenge.The flag has been picked up and you are still charged with a timeout. Good lord.

 

[perry147]

Tebow's game reminds me of Vince Young.

 

[gianmarco]

He cost himself a lot of money today, being exposed against an elite defense.

Questions remain about his ability to be a quarterback at the next level. Urban Meyer's Florida offense has put Tebow in ideal conditions to succeed, so it remains to be seen how he will respond in passing situations against NFL defenses. Tebow has no fear sitting in the pocket, but he needs to do a better job of feeling pressure. His delivery on passes also starts way too low and has to change before he can become an NFL quarterback. Defensive linemen will have a field day of knocking the ball out of his hand if he continues with this same throwing motion. Tebow will not be as good in the pros (after all, he is one of the best players in college football history), but he cannot be discounted either. In fact, it would not be surprising to see him off the board in the first round of the 2010 draft.

It would NOW.

Yeah, because he's the 1st prospect ever to have a poor game at the college level against a good team. Or, because he hasn't faced any real defenses in his college career.

 

[Raider Nation]

He cost himself a lot of money today, being exposed against an elite defense.

Questions remain about his ability to be a quarterback at the next level. Urban Meyer's Florida offense has put Tebow in ideal conditions to succeed, so it remains to be seen how he will respond in passing situations against NFL defenses. Tebow has no fear sitting in the pocket, but he needs to do a better job of feeling pressure. His delivery on passes also starts way too low and has to change before he can become an NFL quarterback. Defensive linemen will have a field day of knocking the ball out of his hand if he continues with this same throwing motion. Tebow will not be as good in the pros (after all, he is one of the best players in college football history), but he cannot be discounted either. In fact, it would not be surprising to see him off the board in the first round of the 2010 draft.

It would NOW.

Yeah, because he's the 1st prospect ever to have a poor game at the college level against a good team. Or, because he hasn't faced any real defenses in his college career.

Oh, my bad... that was a STELLAR performance. I think he'll go #1 overall. <------- Wow, that's fun.

 

[Joey Joe Joe Jr.]

If he ever sees meaningful time as an NFL QB he will see many a blitz.

 

[FavreCo]

I sure hope Jacksonville grabs him because they are already a wasteland for WR's. He can't cause too much FF damage there.

 

[Raider Nation]

In all fairness, his numbers against Florida International were awesome.

 

[coachjim]

Tim Tebow will go down as one of the best collegiate QB's of all time but many doubt how his game will translate to the NFL.does he become an All Pro, a pro bowler, a starter, a backup, a specialty player or nothing at all

How about left tackle?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Congrats to the Crimson Tide, your 2010 National Champions. 13th for the school. Texas is no match.

I love it!

 

[two_dollars]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

You've got to be kidding.Nearly every player entering next year's draft has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted, of which Tebow does not. Not by a long shot.I could name thousands of players more proven over the last 50 years. Poor challenge.The flag has been picked up and you are still charged with a timeout. Good lord.

Thousands? And you couldn't name ONE?

 

[ChargersOH]

Congrats to the Crimson Tide, your 2010 National Champions. 13th for the school. Texas is no match.I love it!

An easy win. Just like Utah was!

 

[Spartans346]

I hope he doesn't get drafted by the Raiders. He cries everytime he loses and with playing for the Raiders we would see this every week.

 

[PewterFan]

He cost himself a lot of money today, being exposed against an elite defense.

His draft status doesn't change after tonight. He was never going to go in the first round and the questions about him being a good NFL player are still legit. Tonight wasn't his fault. Players dropped the ball, UF's defense didn't perform well and the Gators were outcoached.If you don't like Tebow that's fine, but tonight's loss wasn't on him.

 

[FavreCo]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

You've got to be kidding.Nearly every player entering next year's draft has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted, of which Tebow does not. Not by a long shot.I could name thousands of players more proven over the last 50 years. Poor challenge.The flag has been picked up and you are still charged with a timeout. Good lord.

Thousands? And you couldn't name ONE?

O.J Simpson.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

occasional wildcat qb.

Though I heard rumors that he was forgoing the nfl for a career in missionary work.

 

[ChargersOH]

He cost himself a lot of money today, being exposed against an elite defense.

His draft status doesn't change after tonight. He was never going to go in the first round and the questions about him being a good NFL player are still legit. Tonight wasn't his fault. Players dropped the ball, UF's defense didn't perform well and the Gators were outcoached.If you don't like Tebow that's fine, but tonight's loss wasn't on him.

Florida's D laid an egg. There were at least 5 dropped passes by Florida. Tebow does deserve some of the blame, but overall Florida lost as a team

I like Tebow, and I do think he will go in the first round, but his throwing mechanics drive me crazy. I think that can be fixed, and he gives teams a lot of options at QB.

Tebow won't be around in the second round. Bank on it.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

Ryan LeafPeyton ManningBarry SandersTim BaiakabatukaVince YoungCarson PalmerCharles RogersCharles WoodsonDanny WeurfulEdgerrin JamesRicky WilliamsTony MandarichHerschel Walkeroff the top of my head

 

[urbanhack]

Team Pastor.

 

[Instinctive]

As to what position any particular team may eye him for is anybody's guess.The only thing I know with the utmost certainty is that somebody is going to end up reaching for this guy allowing a more proven player or players to fall.And I will certainly welcome that, especially if the Cowboys can benefit from it.

I'm throwing the on this one. There might be guys who you think are better prospects, or have more upside, or who project better to the pro game, but I challenge you to name one player in the last 50 years of college football who entered the draft more PROVEN then Tim Tebow. If players were drafted strictly on their production, Tebow would be the all-time #1 overall draft pick.

Ryan LeafPeyton ManningBarry SandersTim BaiakabatukaVince YoungCarson PalmerCharles RogersCharles WoodsonDanny WeurfulEdgerrin JamesRicky WilliamsTony MandarichHerschel Walkeroff the top of my head

Matt LeinartRon DayneRicky Williams (I think he's worth seconding)Kevin SmithBarry Sanders (him too)LaDainian TomlinsonCedric BensonSteve McNairDeAngelo WilliamsMarcus AllenDerrick ThomasBilly White Shoes JohnsonBilly BennettTimmy Chang

 

[sho nuff]

Tebow's game reminds me of Vince Young.

With less speed and athleticism.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Meh

Would rather have Dan LeFevour

 

[perry147]

Tebow's game reminds me of Vince Young.

With less speed and athleticism.

Great players, maybe even seen as the greatest ever (VY in Texas was considered this), both a very athletic and can take over games, both work out of the shotgun...

 

[Pickle Rody]

I know lots of people think he'd be a good FB or h-back or TE, but we've never seen Tebow block or catch. I understand players sometimes totally switch positions, but I'd have a hard time getting excited about a guy becoming a blocker that's never blocked before.

No one really knows how Tebow will play in the NFL, but he needs a lot of work mechanically and at reading a defense before he becomes an NFL starting QB.

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember him catching a pass for a TD a year or two ago. I guess my vote will be as a NFL player......maybe RB?

 

[CalBear]

I guess my vote will be as a NFL player......maybe RB?

If you were evaluating Tebow as an RB prospect, where would you place him against the competition at this point?(Undrafted free agent, most likely).

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

This is the way I see Tebow. If an owner is willing to hire a coach who will go against the scheme he most likely has been doing his whole life, and build a team that suits Tebow's strengths, and hire someone that can help him improve on what he's not good at, Tebow could be very good. Then again if none of those things happen he is probably out of the league in a few years. What I say about building a team that suits Tebow's strengths, that not only means scheme, but also includes the other players that are drafted that suits Tebow's strengths. Those strengths include arm strength, running ability, size, and mobility.

 

[SSOG]

You've got to be kidding.

Nearly every player entering next year's draft has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted, of which Tebow does not. Not by a long shot.

I could name thousands of players more proven over the last 50 years. Poor challenge.

The flag has been picked up and you are still charged with a timeout. Good lord.

Oh, I see. Apparently "proven" simply means that a player has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted. That must have been why the Texans took Mario Williams at #1 overall- he was simply so much more PROVEN than Reggie Bush! I mean, granted, he didn't actually do anything at the college level, but by golly, he sure had a well-defined position! That Reggie Bush was so unproven. I mean, he was awesome running the ball *AND* he was awesome catching the ball. What's a coach to do? Bush was totally unproven because he was simply too awesome in too many ways in college. He should have been more like Mario Williams and not excelled in multiple areas (or at all, for that matter).Tim Tebow faced more NFL-caliber defenders than any other player in the nation over the course of his career, and yet despite that, he still broke the SEC record for rushing TDs, the SEC record for total TDs, finished his career with the 2nd best passer rating in SEC history, finished his career with the most wins in SEC history, won a Heisman trophy, won two Maxwells (at least), won two national championships (earning a MNCMVP in the process), played in 3 SECCGs, was a 2x ESPN Male College Athlete of the Year, and kicked Chuck Norris's ###. It's a shame that he didn't actually do anything to prove himself or anything. If only he were as PROVEN as his teammate (and likely lottery pick) Carlos Dunlap. I mean, Dunlap's never had a double digit sack season, and he's never had more than 23 tackles in one year, but by golly, he sure has a clearly-defined position for which he'll be drafted!

 

[CravenM]

I'm not even sure what this thread is about any more - more BS than anything else.

If someone were to judge his NFL career on his SEC-CG performance, I'd hope they'd look at the dropped passes and play calling.

Regardless, it's a dead issue. His legacy is solidified as one of the best college football players in history.

His future is yet to be determined.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

You've got to be kidding.

Nearly every player entering next year's draft has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted, of which Tebow does not. Not by a long shot.

I could name thousands of players more proven over the last 50 years. Poor challenge.

The flag has been picked up and you are still charged with a timeout. Good lord.

Oh, I see. Apparently "proven" simply means that a player has a well-defined position for which he will be drafted. That must have been why the Texans took Mario Williams at #1 overall- he was simply so much more PROVEN than Reggie Bush! I mean, granted, he didn't actually do anything at the college level, but by golly, he sure had a well-defined position! That Reggie Bush was so unproven. I mean, he was awesome running the ball *AND* he was awesome catching the ball. What's a coach to do? Bush was totally unproven because he was simply too awesome in too many ways in college. He should have been more like Mario Williams and not excelled in multiple areas (or at all, for that matter).Tim Tebow faced more NFL-caliber defenders than any other player in the nation over the course of his career, and yet despite that, he still broke the SEC record for rushing TDs, the SEC record for total TDs, finished his career with the 2nd best passer rating in SEC history, finished his career with the most wins in SEC history, won a Heisman trophy, won two Maxwells (at least), won two national championships (earning a MNCMVP in the process), played in 3 SECCGs, was a 2x ESPN Male College Athlete of the Year, and kicked Chuck Norris's ###. It's a shame that he didn't actually do anything to prove himself or anything. If only he were as PROVEN as his teammate (and likely lottery pick) Carlos Dunlap. I mean, Dunlap's never had a double digit sack season, and he's never had more than 23 tackles in one year, but by golly, he sure has a clearly-defined position for which he'll be drafted!