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Tim Tebow to deliver anti-abortion message during SB (1 Viewer)

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Women's groups urge CBS to drop Tebow Super Bowl ad

NEW YORK (AP)

A national coalition of women's groups called on CBS on Monday to scrap its plan to broadcast an ad during the Super Bowl featuring college football star Tim Tebow and his mother, which critics say is likely to convey an anti-abortion message.

"An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year -- an event designed to bring Americans together," said Jemhu Greene, president of the New York-based Women's Media Center.

The center was coordinating the protest with backing from the National Organization for Women, the Feminist Majority and other groups.

CBS said it has approved the script for the 30-second ad and has given no indication that the protest would have an impact. A network spokesman, Dana McClintock, said CBS would ensure that any issue-oriented ad was "appropriate for air."

The ad -- paid for by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family -- is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow's pregnancy in 1987 with a theme of "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life." After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child and gave birth to Tim, who went on to win the 2007 Heisman Trophy while helping his Florida team to two BCS championships.

The controversy over the ad was raised Sunday when Tebow met with reporters in Mobile, Ala., before beginning preparations for next weekend's Senior Bowl.

"I know some people won't agree with it, but I think they can at least respect that I stand up for what I believe," Tebow said. "I've always been very convicted of it (his views on abortion) because that's the reason I'm here, because my mom was a very courageous woman. So any way that I could help, I would do it."

On Tuesday, CBS reacted to the furor, saying it has eased its restrictions on advocacy ads and would consider any that are "responsibly produced" for the few open spots remaining for the Feb. 7 broadcast.

CBS says it has received both critical and supportive e-mails since women's groups began the protest campaign.

Thirty-second commercials during the Super Bowl are selling for $2.5 million to $2.8 million. Gary Schneeberger, a spokesman for Focus on the Family, said funds for the Tebow ad were donated by a few "very generous friends" and did not come from the group's general fund.

Schneeberger said he and his colleagues "were a little surprised" at the furor over the ad.

"There's nothing political and controversial about it," he said. "When the day arrives, and you sit down to watch the game on TV, those who oppose it will be quite surprised at what the ad is all about."

The protest letter from the Women's Media Center suggested that CBS should have turned down the ad in part because it was conceived by Focus on the Family.

"By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers, and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers," the letter said.

However, Schneeberger said CBS officials carefully examined Focus on the Family's track record and found no basis for rejecting the ad.

"We understand that some people don't think very highly of what we do," Schneeberger said. "We're not trying to sell you a soft drink -- we're not selling anything. We're trying to celebrate families."

The idea for the ad came from an employee in Focus on the Family's film department, Schneeberger said, and the Tebows "were thrilled" when it was proposed to them. The Tebows, including Tim, have been outspoken in discussing their Christian faith and their missionary work.

All the national networks, including CBS, have policies that rule out the broadcast of certain types of contentious advocacy ads. In 2004, CBS cited such a policy in rejecting an ad by the liberal-leaning United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.

CBS was criticized for rejecting that ad -- and perhaps might have worried about comparable criticism from conservatives if it had rejected an ad featuring such a charismatic and well-known figure as Tebow.

CBS noted that it had run some advocacy ads in recent months, including spots taking conflicting sides in the debate of a national health care overhaul.

Terry O'Neill, the president of the National Organization for Women, said she had respect for the private choices made by women such as Pam Tebow but condemned the planned ad as "extraordinarily offensive and demeaning."

"That's not being respectful of other people's lives," O'Neill said. "It is offensive to hold one way out as being a superior way over everybody else's."

 
I am a liberal and pro-choice, but I have no problem with the ad as long as it is not "demeaning", which the group is saying it will not be. The only thing I worry about is Tebow, himself. It took me a long time to see both sides of life and gain my own thoughts and beliefs. Maybe some do it differently, but I find it strange someone has had such strong views (and is now becoming the national face of those views) at such an early age. It almost reminds me of Todd Marinovich and his being bred to be uber-QB (in this case Tebow is uber-Christian). I certainly have no qualms about him feeling so strongly, I just hope for his case that he has had an opportunity to explore what is out there or else he has the potential to go the other way. Basicaly I hope the "machine" behind Tebow is not as strong as it was for guys like Marinovich and Josh Hamilton.

 
It is always amusing when a group gets bent out of shape over non-offensive freedom of speech simply because the message being delivered isn't one they agree with. :lol:

 
Tebow freaking needs to pay attention to what is happening between the centers legs not womens legs.

 
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I am a liberal and pro-choice, but I have no problem with the ad as long as it is not "demeaning", which the group is saying it will not be. The only thing I worry about is Tebow, himself. It took me a long time to see both sides of life and gain my own thoughts and beliefs. Maybe some do it differently, but I find it strange someone has had such strong views (and is now becoming the national face of those views) at such an early age.
Are you serious? It's not hard at all for me to connect those dots based on Tebow's history.
The ad -- paid for by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family -- is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow's pregnancy in 1987 with a theme of "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life." After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child and gave birth to Tim, who went on to win the 2007 Heisman Trophy while helping his Florida team to two BCS championships.
You may have strong views about it too if your Mom chose not to abort you even though doctors had recommended it. I'm not a strong believer either way on pro-choice/pro-life. But if I put myself in Tebow's shoes, I may look at it differently.

 
Women's groups urge CBS to drop Tebow Super Bowl ad NEW YORK (AP)A national coalition of women's groups called on CBS on Monday to scrap its plan to broadcast an ad during the Super Bowl featuring college football star Tim Tebow and his mother, which critics say is likely to convey an anti-abortion message."An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year -- an event designed to bring Americans together," said Jemhu Greene, president of the New York-based Women's Media Center.The center was coordinating the protest with backing from the National Organization for Women, the Feminist Majority and other groups.CBS said it has approved the script for the 30-second ad and has given no indication that the protest would have an impact. A network spokesman, Dana McClintock, said CBS would ensure that any issue-oriented ad was "appropriate for air."The ad -- paid for by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family -- is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow's pregnancy in 1987 with a theme of "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life." After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child and gave birth to Tim, who went on to win the 2007 Heisman Trophy while helping his Florida team to two BCS championships.The controversy over the ad was raised Sunday when Tebow met with reporters in Mobile, Ala., before beginning preparations for next weekend's Senior Bowl."I know some people won't agree with it, but I think they can at least respect that I stand up for what I believe," Tebow said. "I've always been very convicted of it (his views on abortion) because that's the reason I'm here, because my mom was a very courageous woman. So any way that I could help, I would do it."On Tuesday, CBS reacted to the furor, saying it has eased its restrictions on advocacy ads and would consider any that are "responsibly produced" for the few open spots remaining for the Feb. 7 broadcast. CBS says it has received both critical and supportive e-mails since women's groups began the protest campaign.Thirty-second commercials during the Super Bowl are selling for $2.5 million to $2.8 million. Gary Schneeberger, a spokesman for Focus on the Family, said funds for the Tebow ad were donated by a few "very generous friends" and did not come from the group's general fund.Schneeberger said he and his colleagues "were a little surprised" at the furor over the ad."There's nothing political and controversial about it," he said. "When the day arrives, and you sit down to watch the game on TV, those who oppose it will be quite surprised at what the ad is all about."The protest letter from the Women's Media Center suggested that CBS should have turned down the ad in part because it was conceived by Focus on the Family."By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers, and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers," the letter said.However, Schneeberger said CBS officials carefully examined Focus on the Family's track record and found no basis for rejecting the ad."We understand that some people don't think very highly of what we do," Schneeberger said. "We're not trying to sell you a soft drink -- we're not selling anything. We're trying to celebrate families."The idea for the ad came from an employee in Focus on the Family's film department, Schneeberger said, and the Tebows "were thrilled" when it was proposed to them. The Tebows, including Tim, have been outspoken in discussing their Christian faith and their missionary work.All the national networks, including CBS, have policies that rule out the broadcast of certain types of contentious advocacy ads. In 2004, CBS cited such a policy in rejecting an ad by the liberal-leaning United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.CBS was criticized for rejecting that ad -- and perhaps might have worried about comparable criticism from conservatives if it had rejected an ad featuring such a charismatic and well-known figure as Tebow.CBS noted that it had run some advocacy ads in recent months, including spots taking conflicting sides in the debate of a national health care overhaul.Terry O'Neill, the president of the National Organization for Women, said she had respect for the private choices made by women such as Pam Tebow but condemned the planned ad as "extraordinarily offensive and demeaning.""That's not being respectful of other people's lives," O'Neill said. "It is offensive to hold one way out as being a superior way over everybody else's."
I won't watch the game if political and religious ads are aired. This is football not Sunday school. Don't force your values into my living room when I want to enjoy an American tradition. Politics and religion have no place in football.
 
I won't watch the game if political and religious ads are aired. This is football not Sunday school. Don't force your values into my living room when I want to enjoy an American tradition. Politics and religion have no place in football.
I agree with you but this is the fault of the network producers, not Tebow. Tebow is just being who he is. I have no problem with that. The networks forcing politics/religion at us during an American "holiday" is nonsense though.
 
I'm pro-choice. Tebow's mom made a choice when she became pregnant./end of story
It's not a completely black and white issue.
stay out of my uterus, scrumptrulescent. and i'm not even a woman!
quit advocating the killing of Americans. We have the war for that
i never said I was advocating killing. I was supporting Tebow's mom's choice.
 
I'm pro-choice. Tebow's mom made a choice when she became pregnant.

/end of story
It's not a completely black and white issue.
stay out of my uterus, scrumptrulescent. and i'm not even a woman!
quit advocating the killing of Americans. We have the war for that
i never said I was advocating killing. I was supporting Tebow's mom's choice.
His mother's choice to kill surethis thread isn't long for the shark pool

 
quit advocating the killing of Americans. We have the war for that
i never said I was advocating killing. I was supporting Tebow's mom's choice.
His mother's choice to kill surethis thread isn't long for the shark pool
this could probably be moved out to the FFA...but given that this is a topic that could impact a potential NFL player, it's up to the mods to decide whether to keep in SP or move to other forum.

i am against abortion, and it's not my role to tell potential mothers what to do.

we can agree to disagree.

 
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Don't see a big deal about it at all. To me, that's a pro-choice message. Nothing in the ad says "Tim Tebow's mom made this choice and we demand that everyone be forced to make the same choice." It just tells a story with a happy ending.

I think this is an area where people have a lot more common ground than perhaps they realize. And it's just a 30-second ad. If a person hates alcohol and doesn't like it being glamorized, they'd have a hard time with SB commercials as well. In the end, it's just an ad.

 
Tebow takes himself way too seriously. Just #### and play football already.

 
everybody knows where they stand on this issue. does TT think he's going to change anyone's beliefs? seems silly

 
I am a liberal and pro-choice, but I have no problem with the ad as long as it is not "demeaning", which the group is saying it will not be. The only thing I worry about is Tebow, himself. It took me a long time to see both sides of life and gain my own thoughts and beliefs. Maybe some do it differently, but I find it strange someone has had such strong views (and is now becoming the national face of those views) at such an early age. It almost reminds me of Todd Marinovich and his being bred to be uber-QB (in this case Tebow is uber-Christian). I certainly have no qualms about him feeling so strongly, I just hope for his case that he has had an opportunity to explore what is out there or else he has the potential to go the other way. Basicaly I hope the "machine" behind Tebow is not as strong as it was for guys like Marinovich and Josh Hamilton.
Like that lady (is it ok to say lady) in that Roe v Wade thing.Of course, the add could backfire if they people think about the chances of their baby being a Tim Tebow (unless they name him or her that.)

Pro-abortion rights vs Pro-cells becoming a baby in a football game.

Maybe it generates and actual disucussion to reduce abortions.

I wonder what other issues will pop up in football game adds...I hear knocking at the white house (Everythings fine, these players have jobs, excellent healthcare, and you're feeling great with a few drinks in ya!)

 
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It only matters to me in a fantasy contxt that TT will likely reduce interest by some teams in drafting him. The SF comment was not misplaced. I guess maybe in some areas this message will be a big seller, but I think teams generally prefer players who aren't lightening rods for political controversy. If he's doing this while you would think he is keeping his behavior under wraps so as to be drafted as high as possible, what might a team expect him to be doing down the road if he is being quoted every day on everything he even thinks about? A whole lot of fans everywhere - whether a majority in any particular town or not - aren't going to like the ad and won't forget it when their team is getting ready to draft. Nor will their ownership and PR departments.

But its a free country and the Supreme Court says that means anyone with lots of cash can spout any message they want at the rest of us. I don't share his belief, but respect his right to speak. If people don't want to hear it, then the message, and messenger, may do their cause more harm than good. Always the way with free speech. You get to speak, but that doesn't mean those listening won't think you are wrong, or an idiot, or self-importantly talking about someting inappropriate for the situation.

 
I'm pro-choice. Tebow's mom made a choice when she became pregnant./end of story
It's not a completely black and white issue.
stay out of my uterus, scrumptrulescent. and i'm not even a woman!
quit advocating the killing of Americans. We have the war for that
i never said I was advocating killing. I was supporting Tebow's mom's choice.
I don't disagree with you. It was Tebow's mom's choice. But abortion is pretty complex. Teenagers getting pregnant and then using it as a quick fix. Late term/partial birth abortions. I don't see either side being completely right.I agree with others though that say it's just an ad. Not worth going crazy over.
 
I am a liberal and pro-choice, but I have no problem with the ad
:thumbup: I don't see why some one should get in such an uproar over an ad. If you don't beleive in the message, ignore it. Personally I think Coca-Cola is poison, but could not care less if Coke buys 40 spots during the Super Bowl.
 
I won't watch the game if political and religious ads are aired. This is football not Sunday school. Don't force your values into my living room when I want to enjoy an American tradition. Politics and religion have no place in football.
I agree with you but this is the fault of the network producers, not Tebow. Tebow is just being who he is. I have no problem with that. The networks forcing politics/religion at us during an American "holiday" is nonsense though.
Since when is a 30 sec ad paid for by a third party the network forcing anything?If anything, it's refreshing to see a major network (which is liberal) allowing an ad at all from a conservative Christian group. What's distressing is that if the ad were a pro-choice ad...it's likely the outcry would be limited only to the hard right groups and their limited outlets.
 
I'd say it should be more he delivers a Pro Life message with his mother based on his history.

The original topic leaves little doubt on the posters thoughts.

Non offensive opinions are a good thing. If you are pro-abortion, more power to you, and NOW and Planned Parenthood

have had plenty of commercials on that don't get this kind of reaction.

 
I have to reserve judgement until I see the ad. I don't know how a position can be taken on it until we actually see the thing. Is there anyplace it can be seen now?

 
I won't be surprised if the ad is mysteriously pulled. Sure would make a heckuva publicity stunt and save a few million bucks while they're at it.

 
CBS Bans Go Daddy Super Bowl ad

The spot features an effeminate former football star named Lola who designs lingerie for women and refers to a Go Daddy online retail portal. The spot is narrated by race car driver Danica Patrick.

“It’s the first time for me I’ve been baffled,” said Go Daddy CEO Bob Parsons. “Usually we may get an ad rejected and we’ll understand. We may not agree, but we understand.”

Go Daddy received a rejection letter from CBS that said the ad “had the potential to offend a significant number of people.” The company put the ad on its Web site, and so far about 94 percent of the people who have offered opinions did not find it offensive.
 
ESPN

In 2004, CBS was criticized by many liberal organizations for rejecting an ad by the United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.
 
ESPN

In 2004, CBS was criticized by many liberal organizations for rejecting an ad by the United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.
Damned ultraconservative, right leaning CBS. That Katie Couric is so blatantly a card carrying Republican it's nauseating!
 
Curiously the ACLU is no where to be found on this free speech issue... I guess they only care about censoring speech that reflects their views. In any event, if Tim/they can pay for the ad, as long as it is in good taste, why should it be censored, and make no mistake because that is what is happening here. The numerous soft porn, scantily clad, beer drinking commercials seem to get a free pass every year even though a large percentage of the SB audience is probably under 10 years of age which makes things uncomfortable for us parents to constantly have to shield or distract our children from things we would never show them on tv, movies, etc.

There is a clear and pervasive double standard when it comes to determining what is politically correct and what isn't in this country in the last half-century and imo, political correctness and the fear of saying anything that even one person may find offensive to their personal beliefs is tearing the very fabric of this country apart. Those that disagree with his position in this commercial can simply ignore it/change the channel or do something else for the 30 seconds/1 minute that it may air. This is after all what conservatives are told when they disagree with radio or tv programs that they find offensive right? Oh and I realize the same can be said of the other commercials I mentioned with the young kids but the degree is much greater in that regard than one spot like this.

Perhaps our nation just does not want our conscience bothered during a time of football, fun and frolic? Either way you slice it however, this is a form of censorship that unfortunately only matters if you are on the wrong side of the media's political correctness crusade. LET TIM SPEAK!

Lastly, in regards to his football future, please refrain from the "this hurts his draft stock" arguments. If you can play football, that really doesn't matter. See the countless players jailed, arrested, etc., that somehow always find a way back on the field after their transgressions... at least until they can't pass, run or throw anymore.

 
I know this comment is far off topic from football, but in relevance to the discussion in this thread, if anyone is interested, the relevant case for the abortion issue currently is Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 1992. Its a combination of two cases, which is now considered the "case-law" on the abortion issue (the author of the opinion claimed theyr were upholding the "essential" core of Roe v. Wade, but in all reality re-wrote Roe v. Wade in their own words, which has a pretty different outcome). You can find info about it http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1991/1991_91_744/.

 
I know this comment is far off topic from football, but in relevance to the discussion in this thread, if anyone is interested, the relevant case for the abortion issue currently is Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 1992. Its a combination of two cases, which is now considered the "case-law" on the abortion issue (the author of the opinion claimed theyr were upholding the "essential" core of Roe v. Wade, but in all reality re-wrote Roe v. Wade in their own words, which has a pretty different outcome). You can find info about it http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1991/1991_91_744/.
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I know this comment is far off topic from football, but in relevance to the discussion in this thread, if anyone is interested, the relevant case for the abortion issue currently is Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 1992. Its a combination of two cases, which is now considered the "case-law" on the abortion issue (the author of the opinion claimed theyr were upholding the "essential" core of Roe v. Wade, but in all reality re-wrote Roe v. Wade in their own words, which has a pretty different outcome). You can find info about it http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1991/1991_91_744/.
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Maybe Tebust should spend less time talking about abortion and more time correcting his QB flaws!
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ESPN

In 2004, CBS was criticized by many liberal organizations for rejecting an ad by the United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.
Damned ultraconservative, right leaning CBS. That Katie Couric is so blatantly a card carrying Republican it's nauseating!
If you read that whole article you'll see that CBS says that they've changed their standards since 2004, and that the ad they would not allow then would be allowed now. That's what they say, anyway.

But what they say is at odds with them banning the Go Daddy ad this week.

CBS is talking out both ends of their ###.

 

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