Time to quit? (1 Viewer)

[Jon_Moore]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.

I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?

So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade.

It may also be worth noting, he traded Thomas Jones/Jerrico Cotchery for 1.01

Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

 

[msommer]

At least finish the draft. And keep your mouth shut in the future.

 

[Da Guru]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade. Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades. I did that years ago and had many trades blown up. Guys would call the person I was trading with and say "Why are you doing that trade?" "You are getting screwed"I learned that most people don`t like when trades go down and they are not part of it.

 

[BigTex]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade. Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades. I did that years ago and had many trades blown up. Guys would call the person I was trading with and say "Why are you doing that trade?" "You are getting screwed"I learned that most people don`t like when trades go down and they are not part of it.

Either this league doesn't have rules or the commish doesn't know that trades are about preception.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I feel for you Jon. This is pretty weak stuff. If you haven't paid your yearly dues yet...Bounce! If you have, just keep your head down and ride out the season.

 

[fatness]

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades.

I agree. Mentioning a trade to anyone not involved in it is just asking for trouble.For that reason, I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

 

[On The Rocks]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade. Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades. I did that years ago and had many trades blown up. Guys would call the person I was trading with and say "Why are you doing that trade?" "You are getting screwed"I learned that most people don`t like when trades go down and they are not part of it.

This is how I see it. It sounds like you are in a pretty weak league and the other girls just don't like your winning. And I agree.....I think we all learn at least once that in-league trade strategy should be kept between you and no one else. I was in a league similar to this. I only won the thing two years consecutively but in year three they started changing rules for the purpose of bringing my team down. I bit the bullet and figured....screw it...change the rules all you want I will still kick your ###. The third year I finished 2nd, and in the fourth year guys were just making stuff up as they went along and I said enough is enough. I finished the year and just walked away from the league. When they approached me about why I didn't want to be in the league anymore I said I got tired of the constant rule changes that favor guys that suck. So they turned it around to make it look like I was bitter. Meh.....whatever. These were the kind of guys that were only drafting players from their favorite teams. Yeah...that always works out well.

 

[lord_helmet]

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades.

I agree. Mentioning a trade to anyone not involved in it is just asking for trouble.For that reason, I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

I kinda agree, I guess an option is to make the commish agree that he will only log on as the commish when he has official business to tend to. If he can veto trades I guess it doesnt matter much if he can see them or not, I really like the leagues best where no one has veto power but that only works in all vets leagues.

 

[Couch Potato]

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades.

I agree. Mentioning a trade to anyone not involved in it is just asking for trouble.For that reason, I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

I commish two leagues currently, and have done so for lots of leagues off and on for 27 years.I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.I also think the Commissioner's job should not include getting intimately involved in other owners' interactions except as a last resort. If it doesn't involve administration of the league at a high level, he needs to stay out. It sounds like the Commissioner in the OP's league believes it's his role to go darting around micromanaging owner relationships and commenting unasked on potential trades, and that's not leadership. This league is in real trouble if that's going on.

 

[fsufan]

, that the commish told him it was a bad trade.

My brother told me he had a trade worked out in our main dynasty league. He said they worked it out over beers and it was on the table and the other guy just had to accept. He was going to give the 1.09 and get Maroney. I thought it was a bad deal for the other guy, good buddy of ours. I thought I would throw a few WRs at him for Moaroney , Holt or Driver. Now another owner has gotten wide of this and has offered S. Smith or Fitz for Maroney. Lesson here is to not tell no one about your trades

 

[fsufan]

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades.

For that reason, I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

I was not aware of this on MFLI commish 2 leagues and use CBS. I cannot see trade offers between owners

 

[mozzy84]

the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade.

It may also be worth noting, he traded Thomas Jones/Jerrico Cotchery for 1.01

Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

this pretty much sounds like what you did? Why get pissy for him calling you on it?All these statements sound really whinny. Guys are making good trades to help there team and you can't, you have a good team can't win it all, blah blah blah....

 

[Jon_Moore]

the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade.

It may also be worth noting, he traded Thomas Jones/Jerrico Cotchery for 1.01

Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

this pretty much sounds like what you did? Why get pissy for him calling you on it?All these statements sound really whinny. Guys are making good trades to help there team and you can't, you have a good team can't win it all, blah blah blah....

Reread it. The guy that was going to get Washington, I didn't say a word to about him starting. The guy I told the trade about wanted to know why he'd do taht, so I told him that. How is that manipulating the owner involved in the trade?

 

[fruity pebbles]

If this guy's so much of a marshmallow that guy's can influence his decision on trades and such, you need to find a new owner who actually knows a thing or two about football.

 

[BigRed]

So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade.

Giving your opinion is "lying?" And yeah trying to manipulate someone when talking trade, go figure. I guess you should've said "wow I'm really getting the best of this deal" Your commish sounds like either a total putz or 10 yrs old, or both. Why you'd want to be in that league I've no idea, but whatever.Generally when stupid kiddie pissy BS starts up (more than a very rare or isolated thing) it's time to go. That happened to a league I was in 7 yrs, and much as I hated starting over, between stupid BS somewhat similar to that and people who got increasingly boring at the draft of all things seemed only semi-interested/etc , I knew it was time to go. Amazing how hard it is to find the right mix of people for a local league.

I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

...or any other pending moves. Me either. I'm commish and I turn that off too.

 

[BigJim®]

Yeah, loose lips sink ships. I sometimes mention trade discussions with others but I try to do it selectively with other guys I have a mutual deal where we bounce ideas off of eachother for a trusted opinion. I certainly wouldn't be doing much talking in gossipy/intrusive crowd you're describing. I will say your Commish is a very concerning aspect of your league. It's pretty obvious he's a control freak who will likely use his authority to overstep his bounds time and time again, which is another thing I'd consider.

As to your main question of when to dump a league, I'd say when it stops being enjoyable. I wouldn't waste my time with a league contaminated by leaguemembers I generally dislike. God knows there are enough enjoyable leagues out there.

 

[guderian]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

 

[Giggity]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade. It may also be worth noting, he traded Thomas Jones/Jerrico Cotchery for 1.01Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

Like most women I know, you talk too much.Work on that.

 

[salmonstud]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

There is a lock out feature that only locks out the commish's ability to see trade offers. MFL is really on top of things.

 

[fatness]

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

I believe you can log in as commish, remove the commish's lockout status, take care of what needs to be done, reinstate the commish's lockout status, and be done.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Jon,

Could I have your permission to quote your post elsewhere?

 

[-X-]

For my views about trades, you may want to read THIS

Just checked your site out and you have some good articles, tips and tricks on the tao of trading. A few broken links here and there, but the info is worth it. Thanks.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Jon,Could I have your permission to quote your post elsewhere?

AbsolutelyEdit to add, if you use it in an article on your site, I'd love to see it.

 

[houdini]

This is supposed to be fun, right? When it's no longer fun, it's time to walk away.

 

[Lash]

there are TWO main reasons i think about leaving leagues

1) fundamental scoring and rule changes AFTER the initial draft, especially in dynasty

not talking about minor tweaks, talking about the major changes. one may draft differently if they'd have made the rule change BEFORE

2) vetoing of non-collusional trading ... i love the veto excuse "well i just vetoed it because it was helping your team more than you were giving up" ... well GREAT, you should have traded with him first ... don't veto me because i'm trying to improve my team

i have the best veto story ... i made a trade with another owner ... we had 5 "trade moderators" that voted on all trades to approve/disapprove and have to give expanation of their reasoning to why one team won the trade in a league unbalancing manner ... they voted 3-2 to disapprove one trade BUT THEY COULDNT EVEN AGREE ON WHICH TEAM GOT THE LOPSIDED PART OF THE DEAL ... the 3 dispprovals disagreed 2-1 on who "won" the deal ... yet they still disapproved saying by letter of the law, majority disapproval means trade doesnt go thru and they had nothing that stated they could use common sense

needless to say, i will finish the year there and then asta la vista

 

[Phurfur]

I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade.

This sounds like a very weak league. Who in their right mind would listen to the guy they are trading with about the player they are getting. If you want to play "Real" Fantasy Football get in a league with knowledgeable owners. What you see is what you get.

 

[FantasyTrader]

This sounds like a very weak league. Who in their right mind would listen to the guy they are trading with about the player they are getting. If you want to play "Real" Fantasy Football get in a league with knowledgeable owners. What you see is what you get.

All due respect, why in the world would you want to play REAL fantasy football if it means "better competition? I'd rather win money. Sometimes it's these BS leagues that are the most lucrative (Not saying this makes it something to put up with) but lack of knowledgable owners is NOT a reason to run away from a league.

 

[FantasyTrader]

there are TWO main reasons i think about leaving leagues

1) fundamental scoring and rule changes AFTER the initial draft, especially in dynasty

not talking about minor tweaks, talking about the major changes. one may draft differently if they'd have made the rule change BEFORE

2) vetoing of non-collusional trading ... i love the veto excuse "well i just vetoed it because it was helping your team more than you were giving up" ... well GREAT, you should have traded with him first ... don't veto me because i'm trying to improve my team

i have the best veto story ... i made a trade with another owner ... we had 5 "trade moderators" that voted on all trades to approve/disapprove and have to give expanation of their reasoning to why one team won the trade in a league unbalancing manner ... they voted 3-2 to disapprove one trade BUT THEY COULDNT EVEN AGREE ON WHICH TEAM GOT THE LOPSIDED PART OF THE DEAL ... the 3 dispprovals disagreed 2-1 on who "won" the deal ... yet they still disapproved saying by letter of the law, majority disapproval means trade doesnt go thru and they had nothing that stated they could use common sense

needless to say, i will finish the year there and then asta la vista

This is absolutely unreal to me! Lash, would you mind me quoting your post elsewhere?

 

[Lash]

there are TWO main reasons i think about leaving leagues

1) fundamental scoring and rule changes AFTER the initial draft, especially in dynasty

not talking about minor tweaks, talking about the major changes. one may draft differently if they'd have made the rule change BEFORE

2) vetoing of non-collusional trading ... i love the veto excuse "well i just vetoed it because it was helping your team more than you were giving up" ... well GREAT, you should have traded with him first ... don't veto me because i'm trying to improve my team

i have the best veto story ... i made a trade with another owner ... we had 5 "trade moderators" that voted on all trades to approve/disapprove and have to give expanation of their reasoning to why one team won the trade in a league unbalancing manner ... they voted 3-2 to disapprove one trade BUT THEY COULDNT EVEN AGREE ON WHICH TEAM GOT THE LOPSIDED PART OF THE DEAL ... the 3 dispprovals disagreed 2-1 on who "won" the deal ... yet they still disapproved saying by letter of the law, majority disapproval means trade doesnt go thru and they had nothing that stated they could use common sense

needless to say, i will finish the year there and then asta la vista

This is absolutely unreal to me! Lash, would you mind me quoting your post elsewhere?

you sure can, everyone needs to have a good laugh every once in awhile

 

[NoFBinLA]

This sounds like a very weak league. Who in their right mind would listen to the guy they are trading with about the player they are getting. If you want to play "Real" Fantasy Football get in a league with knowledgeable owners. What you see is what you get.

I had a guy I was trading with very close to cutting a deal that would have benefitted us both, though I'd say I was getting the better wnd in all honesty. But while I can't recall the details I think he was getting (amongst other things) a very good RB (which was huge for him as he was paper thin) and I was locking up a top ten qb. He was talking it over with the league's commish and the guy was like 'Aw I'd NEVER do that - you're giving up too much'.

The dude I was talking with rejected the trade, citing the commish's advice and ended up with only one viable RB the next week and lost.

The capper on that? He was playing the commish - who he asked for advice - that week. I had to email him and ask -You do know you asked a guy you were playing that week for advice on a trade that would have allowed you to beat him, right?'

I also gave the commish much crap for it.

Suffice to say I'm not in that league anymore and after a few more shady moments via the commish, neither are alot of other people.

I don't think I'd be hanging around next year if I were you. I don't much like owners (liek the idiot I was trading with) who can't think for themselves.

And yeah -- you need to not talk about your trades with anyone else from here on out. Won't stop the other dude from jawing, but will save you some headache.

 

[redman]

You just learned a lesson. I NEVER mention to anyone of possible trades.

I agree. Mentioning a trade to anyone not involved in it is just asking for trouble.For that reason, I also do not like in the MFL setup when the commissioner has the option to see all trade offers made by teams in the league.

 

[lions327]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

There is a lock out feature that only locks out the commish's ability to see trade offers. MFL is really on top of things.

Here ya all go, in case you missed this post earlier.

 

[Finatic]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

There is a lock out feature that only locks out the commish's ability to see trade offers. MFL is really on top of things.

Here ya all go, in case you missed this post earlier.

Just found this out a couple of weeks ago myself............ to MFL on this

 

[Phurfur]

This sounds like a very weak league. Who in their right mind would listen to the guy they are trading with about the player they are getting. If you want to play "Real" Fantasy Football get in a league with knowledgeable owners. What you see is what you get.

All due respect, why in the world would you want to play REAL fantasy football if it means "better competition? I'd rather win money. Sometimes it's these BS leagues that are the most lucrative (Not saying this makes it something to put up with) but lack of knowledgable owners is NOT a reason to run away from a league.

Here is where we are different, I play in competetive leagues to make me better. I want to be the best Fantasy Football Owner I can be. You also don't have to put up with crap that is mentioned here. To me, a lack of knowledgable owners is one of the main reasons I would leave a league. I don't enjoy beating up on the little guys I would rather knock off the big guy.

 

[lions327]

This sounds like a very weak league. Who in their right mind would listen to the guy they are trading with about the player they are getting. If you want to play "Real" Fantasy Football get in a league with knowledgeable owners. What you see is what you get.

All due respect, why in the world would you want to play REAL fantasy football if it means "better competition? I'd rather win money. Sometimes it's these BS leagues that are the most lucrative (Not saying this makes it something to put up with) but lack of knowledgable owners is NOT a reason to run away from a league.

Here is where we are different, I play in competetive leagues to make me better. I want to be the best Fantasy Football Owner I can be. You also don't have to put up with crap that is mentioned here. To me, a lack of knowledgable owners is one of the main reasons I would leave a league. I don't enjoy beating up on the little guys I would rather knock off the big guy.

I couldn't agree more

 

[FantasyTrader]

Here is where we are different, I play in competetive leagues to make me better. I want to be the best Fantasy Football Owner I can be. You also don't have to put up with crap that is mentioned here. To me, a lack of knowledgable owners is one of the main reasons I would leave a league. I don't enjoy beating up on the little guys I would rather knock off the big guy.

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I COMPLETELY agree with you that more knowledgable owners leads to a smoother league and that may make it well worth leaving a league. But "I play in competetive leagues to make me better" is laughable. Do you think you're playing basketball or poker here!? This isn't a competitive sport, where playing better competition helps you raise your level of play. Interacting in communities like FBG (as you're doing) and mockdraft sites are where the learning happens. 1st place $ is 1st place $ - regardless of who you beat.

 

[ffguru56]

I had a trade lined up for the 5th overall pick in the rookie draft, in which I gave Rivers. I actually decided not to do it, but when I told the guy so, he said he didn't want to do it either, that the commish told him it was a bad trade. Phillip Rivers, for what turned out to be Brady Quinn....was a bad trade.I talk to a guy last night about pick 1.11 which is on the clock. He said he liked Washington, discussed the trade, and he said he'd think it over. So, I make the ####### mistake of telling someone it might happen, and he asks why someone would give a 1st for Washington. I tell him he should see 10-12 touches this year, and could potentially start next year. Is that Wrong? Washington with no real chance at starting next year? Would anyone say Washington for 1.11 is something that should be vetoed?So, the guy, tells the commisioner, and the commisioner contacts me and accuses me of blantantly lying in order to manipulate this guy into a trade. I have no doubt he also contacted the guy and told him it was the WORST thing he could do, so that he wouldn't trade with me, just from the Rivers trade. It may also be worth noting, he traded Thomas Jones/Jerrico Cotchery for 1.01Time to say to hell with these backhanded antics? My team has finished 1st in points the last 3 years, always slips in the playoffs, no Tomlinson or Alexander to get the 3 tds to win it. Hate to quit on it, but, time to cut it loose?

I haven't read all the responses to this post but I wouldn't want to be associated with a league that is run this way. Maybe my reasoning of no tolerance of this type of behavior is due to the fact that I'm in a league with close friends and relatives that people don't back-stab or talk others out of a trade. Sure, minor things like that happen but we don't blatanty screw one another over. Yes, most of us dont' like how our commish makes his own rules at times and how he runs the league but overall it's fair, competative, and most importantly fun. This league doesn't seem to fit this mold. Yes, you hurt yourself by opening your mouth. But people shouldn't convince others of not doing a trade. Sure, they can voice their opinion but don't try to dissuade someone....it's wrong. And your commish especially should be as unbiased as they come, which he is clearly not.Get out. Search for another league in which you'll have more fun in. That's what it's all about anyway. No point in debating about whether what others did to you was right or wrong. You obviously didn't like it and it's the way they run things.....get out.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

There is a lock out feature that only locks out the commish's ability to see trade offers. MFL is really on top of things.

Here ya all go, in case you missed this post earlier.

Just found this out a couple of weeks ago myself............ to MFL on this

There's a way to limit JUST the commissioner's ability to see trade offers? IF so, how do you do this?

 

[Finatic]

I make sure the lockout status is set on my MFL leagues so I cannot view that sort of thing. To me, the perception of my fairness and honesty that owners have is just as important as my actual fairness and honesty, and I don't want to leave myself open to questioning when it's a simple matter to set the lockout option.

As I understand it, if you enable the MFL lock out then the commish can't make changes to an owner's team. I'm always getting calls from teams telling me "I can't get to a computer can you draft so-and-so for me?", "can you make this starting line-up change for me?" or other similar requests. I'd like to NOT see the pending transactions, but still need to be able to handle those issues. Am I interpreting the MFL setting wrong? How do you handle that?

There is a lock out feature that only locks out the commish's ability to see trade offers. MFL is really on top of things.

Here ya all go, in case you missed this post earlier.

Just found this out a couple of weeks ago myself............ to MFL on this

There's a way to limit JUST the commissioner's ability to see trade offers? IF so, how do you do this?

CommisionersSetup

Abilities

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[PatsWillWin]

CommisionersSetupAbilitiesScroll down to the bottom of the page..............Fin

ohhh. but i think this takes away commish abilities to conduct add/drops. the commissioners in this league do it because there are salary cuts to be recorded with each add/drop.i thought there might be another way to keep the add/drop abilities, but take away my ability to see pending trades.

 

[Finatic]

CommisionersSetupAbilitiesScroll down to the bottom of the page..............Fin

ohhh. but i think this takes away commish abilities to conduct add/drops. the commissioners in this league do it because there are salary cuts to be recorded with each add/drop.i thought there might be another way to keep the add/drop abilities, but take away my ability to see pending trades.

Not that I'm aware of Jets...Maybe someone else in the SP has run across this?

 

[redman]

I once quit a league just to watch it fold.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I once quit a league just to watch it fold.

How very "Johnny Cash" of you. :folsomprisonblues:

 

[Rich Eisen's Bro]

Here is where we are different, I play in competetive leagues to make me better. I want to be the best Fantasy Football Owner I can be. You also don't have to put up with crap that is mentioned here. To me, a lack of knowledgable owners is one of the main reasons I would leave a league. I don't enjoy beating up on the little guys I would rather knock off the big guy.

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I COMPLETELY agree with you that more knowledgable owners leads to a smoother league and that may make it well worth leaving a league. But "I play in competetive leagues to make me better" is laughable. Do you think you're playing basketball or poker here!? This isn't a competitive sport, where playing better competition helps you raise your level of play. Interacting in communities like FBG (as you're doing) and mockdraft sites are where the learning happens. 1st place $ is 1st place $ - regardless of who you beat.

LAUGHABLE? Are you serious? Do you beat up old ladies and children in your leagues just to win some $$$. I think coming here to promote your sad website is far more laughable.

 

[coolnerd]

CommisionersSetupAbilitiesScroll down to the bottom of the page..............Fin

ohhh. but i think this takes away commish abilities to conduct add/drops. the commissioners in this league do it because there are salary cuts to be recorded with each add/drop.i thought there might be another way to keep the add/drop abilities, but take away my ability to see pending trades.

IMO, any commish on MFL should stay on lockout status unless there is a specific reason to be unlocked. When you are in this status you can't see or conduct any team related pending status like trades, pre slected draft lists, auction amounts, or add/drop (basically anything under the for owners section), but can do basic commish business like approve trades, set-up the site and set up the calendar. Whenever the commish unlocks, the system auto sends a change in status to all league members. In a case where the league commish has to perform add/drops regularly, i still say go through the exercise of lock/unlock as it is simply checking a single box before and after the transaction and adds all of about 10 seconds to either side of league business. Most commishes that i have seen are well above board in their actions, but this feature allows for less opportunity for there to be any question.

 

[phthalatemagic]

1st place $ is 1st place $ - regardless of who you beat.

This aint true. FF is a game. People play games to be challenged. Why play a game for lack of challenge? Surely you do not count on FF as an income, do you? I hope not.

 

[FantasyTrader]

1st place $ is 1st place $ - regardless of who you beat.

This aint true. FF is a game. People play games to be challenged. Why play a game for lack of challenge? Surely you do not count on FF as an income, do you? I hope not.

Actually, this isn't too far off. People play games for different reasons. I do not play for an income, but I don't play to lose money either.

 

[BigRed]

ohhh. but i think this takes away commish abilities to conduct add/drops.

Go to Commish > Setup > Abilities Setup (3d option on left-hand column).Select "Yes."All it does is prevents you from SEEING pending trades, FA moves, lineup changes, etc. As for challenge vs money, if I could find a BIG money league with people who apparently were clueless, I admit I wouldn't mind taking a chance on making a nice chunk of change. But I would still find it very very boring and sure as hell wouldn't want that to be the only league or kind of league I'm in. I guess some are hard up for $ and/or aren't really into FF - whatever

 

[PatsWillWin]

ohhh. but i think this takes away commish abilities to conduct add/drops.

Go to Commish > Setup > Abilities Setup (3d option on left-hand column).Select "Yes."All it does is prevents you from SEEING pending trades, FA moves, lineup changes, etc.

This is not true. I just tried it and it takes away my ability to CONDUCT add/drops for teams.

 

[phthalatemagic]

...but I don't play to lose money either.

That's an illogical response.