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sbonomo said:
Village Idiot said:
My head said Warriors in 6.

My heart wants this win for Cleveland badly.

I think the Cav's have to win tonight to win the series.

If GS trails after the 1st quarter again, like they have all series they may get that here we go again mentality that will help the Cavs.
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So you think that the Warriors rattle off three in a row? Given that the could be down 3-0 fairly easily at this point i just don't understand this rationale.
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They don't need to win three in a row.

Even the series tonight and then win the two remaining home games.

 
If there is a game 7, LeBron James will make it happen, I don't care if he's in Oracle Arena or Steph Curry's driveway.

 
Donkey Derp said:
The problem with Draymond is I look at the tape of game 3 down 84-80. He is a 40% 3 point shooter when not contested and he passes the shot up? If I am a NBA exec, I say I don't care how many regular season games he has helped won - the dude is SCARED of the big stage.
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You might be hesitant, too, if you'd missed umpteen straight open threes.

 
Jayrod said:
If there is a game 7, LeBron James will make it happen, I don't care if he's in Oracle Arena or Steph Curry's driveway.
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I tend to agree. Home court is overrated. Game 7, historically, is when it has most value.

But if it's LeBron at GS in Game 7 . . . toss up.

 
Hey, what's the over/under in this game.

The ESPN Insider guy loved the under 194 in Game 3.

I have to assume Vegas has pushed that number down at least a little for Game 4.

 
From the Steph Curry rules article on ESPN:

"Via SportVU player tracking, the Warriors have missed as many wide-open 3-pointers (27) as the Cavs have taken this series. The bricks have come mainly from Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green."

Just when you think the Dubs need to make major changes you read something like this.

 
sbonomo said:
Village Idiot said:
My head said Warriors in 6.

My heart wants this win for Cleveland badly.

I think the Cav's have to win tonight to win the series.

If GS trails after the 1st quarter again, like they have all series they may get that here we go again mentality that will help the Cavs.
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So you think that the Warriors rattle off three in a row? Given that the could be down 3-0 fairly easily at this point i just don't understand this rationale.
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I said Warriors in 6 at the start before a game was played I thought they would win in 6.

And I was born and raised in Cleveland.

We expect bad things to happen to our sports teams.

 
I don't have the exact stats, but I heard that tonight's refs have a history of being quick with the whistle (lead is Joey Crawford), and that they typically officiate games that usually go over the O/U. Sounds like it favors the Warrio... Dubs.

 
No. 16 said:
From the Steph Curry rules article on ESPN:

"Via SportVU player tracking, the Warriors have missed as many wide-open 3-pointers (27) as the Cavs have taken this series. The bricks have come mainly from Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green."

Just when you think the Dubs need to make major changes you read something like this.
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Those 3 are a combined 9-31 from three. And I'm gonna guess every one is a wide open 3. Do any of those guys shoot contested 3 pointers?

 
No. 16 said:
From the Steph Curry rules article on ESPN:

"Via SportVU player tracking, the Warriors have missed as many wide-open 3-pointers (27) as the Cavs have taken this series. The bricks have come mainly from Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green."

Just when you think the Dubs need to make major changes you read something like this.
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I agree. Warriors fans should be extremely disappointed so far but still optimistic. Game 3 was by far the worst. NBA stats says the Warriors were 13 for 39 from the field with uncontested shots. Cavaliers were 14 for 30. Barnes was 0 for 4, Green was 1 for 5, Curry was only 2 for 7, etc. Now, if they suck because of some reason now seen in the regular season - dead legs from guarding LBJ, scared, injured, etc, wrap the series up for Cleveland already. But those are guys who hit 40%+ when left open in the regular season. If they regress back to their mean shooting OPEN, Warriors shouldn't have an issue.

Memphis played GS really physical I thought - game 2 the Warriors were only 7 for 24 when left open. That's horrible for that team. Game 3 was better as they went 14 for 35 open but still lost. But then the last 3 games closed out 65 for 124.

Warriors were able to adjust and hit those open shots.

Tonight will be very interesting to watch. They need to clean up those open misses, Curry take care of the ball better (no more behind the back trash) and get more 50/50 balls. If they fix their unforced mistakes, I don't think Cleveland has the personnel to play at their level all 48 minutes.

 
Eephus said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
thecatch said:
Ilysova to the Pistons for junk. I like that move.
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who?
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Caron Butler and Shawne Williams. Neither has a guaranteed 15-16 contract so it looks like a total salary dump.
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Good move for the Bucks who have better options at the forward spots.

Decent move for the Pistons. Ersan fits perfectly as the type of stretch 4 that SVG likes. There are worse ways to spend $7.9 million.

It's also probably a signal that Detroit doesn't have any illusions of landing a monster free agent. They'll keep Jackson and will probably need to add a stopgap at SF but that's about it.

 
tommyGunZ said:
TobiasFunke said:
Hoss Style said:
No. 16 said:
Great article on SBnation about what the Cavs are doing on defense. It's nothing ground breaking.http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/10/8755837/nba-finals-2015-cleveland-cavaliers-defense-golden-state-warriors
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Here's another nice article - this one about how Draymond Green is Killing the Warriors.
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Good writeup. He's been terrible for both easily explainable reasons (matchup against the Mozgov-Thompson lineup limits his role) and totally baffling reasons (complete loss of confidence from a guy usually overflows with it).

I posted the still of the three he passed up in that possession yesterday. Here it is. Unbelievable to not take that shot down 4 at the 2 minute mark. You're being handed a greater than 40% chance to make it a one point game and you decline. I hadn't considered the fact that his lack of confidence also is probably the reason Curry's behind the back pass later in the possession went out of bounds- its likely that he basically just chickened out of the pick and pop three. Great call by that writer. Also great insight into why the David Lee solution is probably fool's gold.

Can't wait to see how Green responds tonight. I think his play over the next 2-4 games may be what decides the series.
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Green has tens of millions riding on the next 3-4 games.
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Nah, he's getting a max deal regardless.

 
ArbyMelt said:
No. 16 said:
From the Steph Curry rules article on ESPN:

"Via SportVU player tracking, the Warriors have missed as many wide-open 3-pointers (27) as the Cavs have taken this series. The bricks have come mainly from Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green."

Just when you think the Dubs need to make major changes you read something like this.
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Those 3 are a combined 9-31 from three. And I'm gonna guess every one is a wide open 3. Do any of those guys shoot contested 3 pointers?
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Those guys are open for a reason (make the role players beat you).

I cringe every time I see Iggy and Green, especially, hoist one.

 
Most important game in the history for the Cavs tonight while the most important game in the last 40 years for GS tonight. Teams that have taken a 3-1 lead in the finals has gone on to win 100% of the time. The last time a home team lost game 7 in the Finals was in 1978. Safe to say tonight means everything.

GS is favored by 4 pts. This being the 3rd game in 5 days and the Cavs using basically just 7 players and LeBron avg over 47 mins a game will the Cavs have enough in the tank to gut out another win or has Curry finally found his range with his 4th quarter barrage of 3s ?

As a Cavs fan this game has me scared to death it is basically the 3rd straight must win for the Cavs.

 
Dez said:
Most important game in the history for the Cavs tonight while the most important game in the last 40 years for GS tonight. Teams that have taken a 3-1 lead in the finals has gone on to win 100% of the time. The last time a home team lost game 7 in the Finals was in 1978. Safe to say tonight means everything.

GS is favored by 4 pts. This being the 3rd game in 5 days and the Cavs using basically just 7 players and LeBron avg over 47 mins a game will the Cavs have enough in the tank to gut out another win or has Curry finally found his range with his 4th quarter barrage of 3s ?

As a Cavs fan this game has me scared to death it is basically the 3rd straight must win for the Cavs.
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It will be exciting and is important, but not a "must win". LeBron can deliver a win against any team, anywhere on any given night.

 
Jayrod said:
Dez said:
Most important game in the history for the Cavs tonight while the most important game in the last 40 years for GS tonight. Teams that have taken a 3-1 lead in the finals has gone on to win 100% of the time. The last time a home team lost game 7 in the Finals was in 1978. Safe to say tonight means everything.

GS is favored by 4 pts. This being the 3rd game in 5 days and the Cavs using basically just 7 players and LeBron avg over 47 mins a game will the Cavs have enough in the tank to gut out another win or has Curry finally found his range with his 4th quarter barrage of 3s ?

As a Cavs fan this game has me scared to death it is basically the 3rd straight must win for the Cavs.
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It will be exciting and is important, but not a "must win". LeBron can deliver a win against any team, anywhere on any given night.
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He's 2-3 in the finals so...... no.

 
Jayrod said:
Dez said:
Most important game in the history for the Cavs tonight while the most important game in the last 40 years for GS tonight. Teams that have taken a 3-1 lead in the finals has gone on to win 100% of the time. The last time a home team lost game 7 in the Finals was in 1978. Safe to say tonight means everything.

GS is favored by 4 pts. This being the 3rd game in 5 days and the Cavs using basically just 7 players and LeBron avg over 47 mins a game will the Cavs have enough in the tank to gut out another win or has Curry finally found his range with his 4th quarter barrage of 3s ?

As a Cavs fan this game has me scared to death it is basically the 3rd straight must win for the Cavs.
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It will be exciting and is important, but not a "must win". LeBron can deliver a win against any team, anywhere on any given night.
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If this isn't a must-win game, then it is the closest possible thing there could ever be to a must-win game.

Obviously the only true must win games are elimination games, but I think this is more than important enough to use the must-win cliche, and it is very appropriate usage of it.

 
As a betting man (though not betting this game), GS -4 would would be the way to go. Like Dez I have a sickly feeling here.

The over under is just weird. Are they gonna run ISO Bron on the left wing for 22 seconds every play? If so, under.

 
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Jack White said:
ArbyMelt said:
No. 16 said:
From the Steph Curry rules article on ESPN:

"Via SportVU player tracking, the Warriors have missed as many wide-open 3-pointers (27) as the Cavs have taken this series. The bricks have come mainly from Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green."

Just when you think the Dubs need to make major changes you read something like this.
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Those 3 are a combined 9-31 from three. And I'm gonna guess every one is a wide open 3. Do any of those guys shoot contested 3 pointers?
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Those guys are open for a reason (make the role players beat you).

I cringe every time I see Iggy and Green, especially, hoist one.
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I agree it's the exact way you should play the Warriors but that's what teams have been doing for the whole season. The problem is the role players are shooting below their season percentages.

Barnes was 40%, Iggy 35%, and Draymond 33%. They're not the Splash Bros. but they're better than 9/31.

 
sbonomo said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
sbonomo said:
No. 16 said:
TobiasFunke said:
Hoss Style said:
No. 16 said:
Great article on SBnation about what the Cavs are doing on defense. It's nothing ground breaking.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/10/8755837/nba-finals-2015-cleveland-cavaliers-defense-golden-state-warriors
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Here's another nice article - this one about how Draymond Green is Killing the Warriors.
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Good writeup. He's been terrible for both easily explainable reasons (matchup against the Mozgov-Thompson lineup limits his role) and totally baffling reasons (complete loss of confidence from a guy usually overflows with it).

I posted the still of the three he passed up in that possession yesterday. Here it is. Unbelievable to not take that shot down 4 at the 2 minute mark. You're being handed a greater than 40% chance to make it a one point game and you decline. I hadn't considered the fact that his lack of confidence also is probably the reason Curry's behind the back pass later in the possession went out of bounds- its likely that he basically just chickened out of the pick and pop three. Great call by that writer. Also great insight into why the David Lee solution is probably fool's gold.

Can't wait to see how Green responds tonight. I think his play over the next 2-4 games may be what decides the series.
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The more I think about it the more I like David Lee playing....if Green and Bogut continue to play like crap. Again, Green and Bogut playing at their usual level are worlds better than David Lee but you have to have options.

Lee is the best offensive big man the Dubs have. He is also the worst on defense. However, the Warriors have been losing grind it out games already...so why not just try to outscore the Cavs? If the Warriors offense is humming, I don't think Cavs ISO ball has enough weapons to keep up.

It's a scary thought of having David Lee trying to stop LeBron from scoring 60 points, but I might be tempted to try it just as long as it gets the pace going in the Dubs favor.
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Is this the tool slang for the Warriors or are you trying to start a new trend?
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Did you just emerge from under a rock on Mars?
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So this is a common name for the team? Is this a local thing because i have never heard it before (i watch the games in the city not Oakland)?
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If I remember correctly your a relative newcomer to the bay area. Doesn't matter what area you watch the games. Get with the program!

 
Dez said:
Most important game in the history for the Cavs tonight while the most important game in the last 40 years for GS tonight. Teams that have taken a 3-1 lead in the finals has gone on to win 100% of the time. The last time a home team lost game 7 in the Finals was in 1978. Safe to say tonight means everything.

GS is favored by 4 pts. This being the 3rd game in 5 days and the Cavs using basically just 7 players and LeBron avg over 47 mins a game will the Cavs have enough in the tank to gut out another win or has Curry finally found his range with his 4th quarter barrage of 3s ?

As a Cavs fan this game has me scared to death it is basically the 3rd straight must win for the Cavs.
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Would feel better about the Cavs taking tonight if they had 3 days....they've gotta be wiped out.

 
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