Hot Sauce Guy
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The kind where someone F’d up. No way that was intentional.
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**TNF on Prime - Niners at Rams**(-8.5, 44) 8:15 (1 Viewer)
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My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
A good night that should have been a great night. Not sure about that last call. If they were going with a running play, send him on an end around. Not going to go very far if you run into a wall of bodies.Go, Kyren Williams!
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
was watching the Yankees, what in the world did McVay do?
Is Shanny just permanently in his head?
Is Shanny just permanently in his head?
My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
Awful. Instead of TD #3, a fumble!
the moops
Footballguy
Weird take here. He fumbled, yes, but everyone does sometimes. I thought he looked really good out there. And he scored 30 pts for me tonight
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dude put up 31 in my home league… against me.Awful. Instead of TD #3, a fumble!
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Kyren scored 33 points for me, so I can't be that upset.
My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
In my league, he put up 23 points for me. Could have been just south of 30.... could have-should have.Dude put up 31 in my home league… against me.Awful. Instead of TD #3, a fumble!
Just watched the replay. He took his left hand off the ball — like he didn't want the knee to go down so he was trying to keep himself up with his left hand... and the ball was instantly vulnerable.
rockaction
Footballguy
Weird take here. He fumbled, yes, but everyone does sometimes. I thought he looked really good out there. And he scored 30 pts for me tonight
There's absolutely nothing weird about my take and I hope you all enjoy the fantasy points while the getting is good. Peace and good luck!
drummer
Footballguy
YOU'RE GONNA EAT THAT TAKE AND LIKE IT.Weird take here. He fumbled, yes, but everyone does sometimes. I thought he looked really good out there. And he scored 30 pts for me tonight
There's absolutely nothing weird about my take and I hope you all enjoy the fantasy points while the getting is good. Peace and good luck!
fatness
Footballguy
Not sure.
That last Dallas-Green Bay game was pretty good.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It was also getting swatted down on.Just watched the replay. He took his left hand off the ball — like he didn't want the knee to go down so he was trying to keep himself up with his left hand... and the ball was instantly vulnerable.
rockaction
Footballguy
McVay just said he blew the play call and Fitzgerald just said you have to get the ball in Puka’s hands.
McVay said he’s “sick” that he put his guys in that position and that they definitely need to “clean things up.”
The broadcast was talking about Kyren Williams fumbling way too often.
Kyren Williams had two runs over twenty yards last year in 316 attempts. Pathetic. I’m pretty sure when I had PFF last year he faced among the lightest boxes of any RB in the NFL.
His Wonderlic score and IQ or spatial/visual processing acuity must be off the charts. Because there ain’t much else.
McVay said he’s “sick” that he put his guys in that position and that they definitely need to “clean things up.”
The broadcast was talking about Kyren Williams fumbling way too often.
Kyren Williams had two runs over twenty yards last year in 316 attempts. Pathetic. I’m pretty sure when I had PFF last year he faced among the lightest boxes of any RB in the NFL.
His Wonderlic score and IQ or spatial/visual processing acuity must be off the charts. Because there ain’t much else.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Jones sprained his PCL in the preseason.
drummer
Footballguy
The 49ers are 4-1 with Jones winning 3 games with only 1 INT and 1 fumble lost. If it weren't for Nick Bosa, the 49ers could be 3-2 in each of Purdy's starts.
I've always pointed out that Purdy is a tiny QB compared to even GEQBUS or a Jones. Jones threw for 2 TDs for 342 yards without Pearsall, Jennings, Kittle, and so forth, while on a bad knee.
I'm giving Jones his flowers.
efactor
Footballguy
Oops
Pip's Invitation
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I might vote for BUF-BAL in week 1, but it’s close.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
That was a he’ll of a gutsy performance by Jones last night.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Love it or hate it (I know, most hate it), but that last play is precisely why the Tush Push makes the Eagles so formidable. That would have been a gimmee first down for them.
sorry to interject tush push dialogue into another thread
sorry to interject tush push dialogue into another thread
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Big win for San Fran. It seems like the Rams play well enough just to lose to good teams.
My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
Williams' receiving game saved his bottom line, for sure. As an RB alone, I would have been looking at a paltry Fantasy score.
Refs screwed up last night on that goaline fumble.
Illegal Use of Hands or Unnecessary Roughness should have been called. Whether it was intentional or not.
The defender punched Kyren in the head first.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPVfhkAAEKu/?igsh=MWM4YjZzODhxamJ2NA==
Illegal Use of Hands or Unnecessary Roughness should have been called. Whether it was intentional or not.
The defender punched Kyren in the head first.
- Illegal Use of Hands:
A defensive player is prohibited from thrusting their hands forward to make forcible contact with an opponent's head or face area. - Unnecessary Roughness:
This broad category covers violent or gratuitous contact that is not part of a legal play. A punch to the head falls under this category.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPVfhkAAEKu/?igsh=MWM4YjZzODhxamJ2NA==
efactor
Footballguy
Good no call
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I don't think it was an intentional punch to the head as much as it was a desperation swipe at the ball (and his hand/arm glance off Williams' helmet first). That said, it certainly could have contributed to Williams losing control of the football.
It's one of those tough calls that everyone obviously isn't going to agree on. Rams fans are going to want it called, and are upset that it wasn't. Had it been, though, I think there would be even more of an outcry (that it wasn't a "punch" but rather incidental contact). Which begs the question... Does that matter? When it comes to refs protecting QB's, it doesn't seem to matter (we see roughing the passer calls all the time where defenders hit the QB in the head, not necessarily intentionally, but it's still called). But what about non-QB's? Happens far less often, so I don't know the answer.
I had the Rams in one of my survivor pools. Was pulling for them to score there, obviously. I think it was a close call that could have been called either way. That said, I have no problem with it being a no-call, all things considered. Luckily, I only took them in one survivor contest (have the Lions and Colts in the others).
It's one of those tough calls that everyone obviously isn't going to agree on. Rams fans are going to want it called, and are upset that it wasn't. Had it been, though, I think there would be even more of an outcry (that it wasn't a "punch" but rather incidental contact). Which begs the question... Does that matter? When it comes to refs protecting QB's, it doesn't seem to matter (we see roughing the passer calls all the time where defenders hit the QB in the head, not necessarily intentionally, but it's still called). But what about non-QB's? Happens far less often, so I don't know the answer.
I had the Rams in one of my survivor pools. Was pulling for them to score there, obviously. I think it was a close call that could have been called either way. That said, I have no problem with it being a no-call, all things considered. Luckily, I only took them in one survivor contest (have the Lions and Colts in the others).
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
And the 49ers successfully converted a 4th down tuchas puchas with a gimpy Mac Jones.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Incidental contact while going for the ball. That wasn’t a penalty. I watched that play 4x. It was clean. This is nonsense.
Also, he wasn’t “thrusting hands forwards” he was swiping down. Not remotely an illegal hands to the face.
And it wasn’t a “punch to the head” either. He was clearly swiping down at the ball. The head obviously wasn’t the target.
Good non-call.
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I think this is more towards the middle than you are claiming.
I can see the call go both ways.
The punch was not "clean". We don't see incidental punches occur often in the NFL why? Because frequent incidental punches in the face is NOT FOOTBALL!
We have seen penalties plenty for "hands to the face". Is it incidental? Of course. BUT IT STILL GETS CALLED.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Read the rules you posted again. Per the words in the rules, it was not a penalty.
Q: did the defender “thrust his hands forward”?
A: No, he did not. He swiped down.
Cut & dry. No middle, clearly, obviously not against the rules. There was no penalty, which is why there was no flag. Trying to redefine what the defender did to suit the rule is not something refs do.
I can see the argument for "thrust his hands forward". He did swipe down I agree.
Therefore, it then falls under Unnecessary Roughness.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
But it doesn’t. He wasn’t being unnecessarily rough. He was going for the ball. It’s a football play. Swiping for the ball, which he clearly did from the result, is legal. If dudes helmet got in the way, too bad. That’s why they wear helmets.
He didn’t punch him in the helmet.
Starting to wonder if this is a schtick.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Just saw an IG clip of the crowd. I hadn’t realized it was 90% Niners fans.
Wingnut
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Yeah it was LIT with Niner fans!! My favorite IG clip from last night:
NFL on FOX on Instagram: "Mac Jones was ready 😂🙌 (via @nfl)"
107K likes, 1,578 comments - nflonfox on October 2, 2025: "Mac Jones was ready 😂🙌 (via @nfl)".
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We just saw another “punch” in the Dal vs NYJ game causing Breece to fumble.
This is why it should be called. Now teams will start doing it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As if teams haven’t been doing this for decades? This isn’t a new thing. Cmon.
Bro, wtf are you talking about. Did they call a penalty? I’m betting not. Because it’s not a penalty.
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