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TO, Tank, now Pacman...The Cowboys ARE the garbage disposal (1 Viewer)
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simmonjm
Footballguy
Maybe they feel confident in their player rehab program led by Calvin Hill (father of Grant Hill). In addition TO never broke any laws and was a model citizen. Tank made some bad choices but has been a model citizen since being in Dallas. Im sure Dallas is aware of the risk they face when signing these players, (Goodell has stated that teams sign or trade for troubled players can face sanctions if the player messes up again).Who's next?
Cowtippers
Footballguy
Maybe Mario Manningham since he did so well during his interview on Sirius.........
Irish
Footballguy
What criterion do you use in declaring T.O. to be morally lacking??
TO has never been in the police blogger for being involved in shootings or for beating on wimmens or for drug possession.Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
Dmitrius Underwood
Alonzo Spellman
The beat goes on . . .
Alonzo Spellman
The beat goes on . . .
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
They could use Chris Henry.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
He called Jeff Garthia gay. That isn't nice.What criterion do you use in declaring T.O. to be morally lacking??TO has never been in the police blogger for being involved in shootings or for beating on wimmens or for drug possession.
Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
It's definitely true that TO has never been arrested. However, when you're pointing to him as the shining light among your team of miscreants, I think that speaks to there being a problem.What criterion do you use in declaring T.O. to be morally lacking??
massraider
Footballguy
They are close enough to be thinking Super Bowl. I think they are taking their shot, and while a guy like Pac Man is bad news, he is a very, very good player. He can change games, and I think he is worth the risk to a team than has good leadership from its players.
I don't think bad teams can take the same chances.
The whole thing may blow up in Jerry's face, but if a team with a bunch of dirtbags wins the big one, it's worth it.
I don't think bad teams can take the same chances.
The whole thing may blow up in Jerry's face, but if a team with a bunch of dirtbags wins the big one, it's worth it.
scott72
Footballguy
Ocho Cinco??Who's next?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Worst of all is Tony Romo.
He ought to be arrested for dumping Carrie Underwood for Jessica Simpson. What's the matter with that boy!
He ought to be arrested for dumping Carrie Underwood for Jessica Simpson. What's the matter with that boy!
FUBAR
Footballguy
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Add Charles Haley to the list as well.
Jerry always thinks he can bring out the best in a person. Most of the guys havent been in trouble with the law though.
A guy like Tank, though, supposedly has a true love of guns. He made the mistake of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The combination of the two was not good. Dallas did a ton of investigation into this guy before signing him.
TO just wanted respect. Jerry gives it to him. No one has ever questioned whether he comes to play on Sunday. Or worrying about him in the police blog.
Pacman does worry me though. He's done a number of very questionable things. He seems much more like the pre-Parcells talent acquisition mode. THe Antonio Bryants, a really talented CB, out of Ohio State who's name escapes me. Ross I think. Thugs, knuckleheads, you name em. These are the very guys Parcells cleaned out. And tried to get guys who were team captains and other college team leader types. Character guys. Taking on a TO is one thing. Tank, having so vetting of his character done, okay. Pacman? Now we start back down the slippery slope again. As a Cowboy fan, it worries me.
Jerry always thinks he can bring out the best in a person. Most of the guys havent been in trouble with the law though.
A guy like Tank, though, supposedly has a true love of guns. He made the mistake of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The combination of the two was not good. Dallas did a ton of investigation into this guy before signing him.
TO just wanted respect. Jerry gives it to him. No one has ever questioned whether he comes to play on Sunday. Or worrying about him in the police blog.
Pacman does worry me though. He's done a number of very questionable things. He seems much more like the pre-Parcells talent acquisition mode. THe Antonio Bryants, a really talented CB, out of Ohio State who's name escapes me. Ross I think. Thugs, knuckleheads, you name em. These are the very guys Parcells cleaned out. And tried to get guys who were team captains and other college team leader types. Character guys. Taking on a TO is one thing. Tank, having so vetting of his character done, okay. Pacman? Now we start back down the slippery slope again. As a Cowboy fan, it worries me.
DWidmar
Footballguy
The biggest key is that once in Dallas, for the most part, the players stay out of trouble. There have been a couple of problems here and there but nothing like several other NFL teams. Most of the problems the Cowboys have had, isnt from bringing troubled players in from other teams, it was from players (not known for trouble) they brought in / drafted under Jimmy Johnson. (although a couple of draft picks had some red flags but Jimmy didnt care about that)
Pacman is a whole other can of worms though. I don't think this guy realizes what he is doing is causing problems for himself. He seems to think it is OK and the rest of us are wrong. We will see though. Great risk / reward player if he can keep out of trouble and play up to his potential on the field.
Pacman is a whole other can of worms though. I don't think this guy realizes what he is doing is causing problems for himself. He seems to think it is OK and the rest of us are wrong. We will see though. Great risk / reward player if he can keep out of trouble and play up to his potential on the field.
They are apparently not interested in Henry:
Cowboys aren't buying Henry's act
Posted: Friday April 11, 2008 06:55AM ET
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Wednesday that acquiring recently released Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry, who was a college teammate of Pacman Jones at West Virginia, is "unlikely." Henry apparently is trying to go the "Pacman" route, too. He has contacted former Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin about potentially appearing on his radio show. Jones made a nearly three-hour appearance on the Irvin show two weeks ago to talk about his troubled past and Henry could be trying to use the same platform to explain his past behaviors.
http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/569830.html
DWidmar
Footballguy
How is he pointing to him as the shining light? He stated that he was never arrested. Who are the "team of miscreants" that you speak of. Tank Johnson had problems prior to Dallas, but so far in Dallas has been good. T.O. has had some issues but since in Dallas he has also been much improved. Besides these two who else is there? I dont see a team of miscreants. Now I will say over the years Dallas has had some losers and it's share of problem players, but I do not see that team this way now. At one point, I was so frustrated with all of the troubled players we had but I dont feel that way now. But I might be missing some players that I cant think of right now.It's definitely true that TO has never been arrested. However, when you're pointing to him as the shining light among your team of miscreants, I think that speaks to there being a problem.What criterion do you use in declaring T.O. to be morally lacking??
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
For the most part the Cowboys stay out of trouble except for the coke, pot, whores, roids, stabbings of team mates in the neck with scissors, drunk driving, spousal abuse etc. All teams of course have these problems, and the Cowboys are not, at least in my eyes the worst. Their fans, however, are the most in denial. Whatever tradition of sportsmanship and honor the team once had has been sold by Jones for championships, and he is eager to do so again. If you can't build a winner, buy one is his motto. The price he pays is cash and integrity. Some are happy to be the Yankees of football, buy rather than build. Not my cup of tea.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I can buy some of your argument, of how the Cowboy fans may be in denial but all fans of their team are in denial or jump to defend their team. What I don't buy into is your Yankees of football, buy rather than build philosophy.Since when does baseball have a cap?The Cowboys have the same rules in terms of how much they're allowed to spend as every other team in the NFL. The Yankees are free to spend whatever they can gather up to whomever they want.The Yankees and Dallas in terms of how they acquire their players makes no sense. The Yankees just outbid everyone they wish to have where any team in the NFL just cannot do that.
DeCleater
Footballguy
What did they used to say in Oakland?Just win baby!
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
We have the cap thanks to Jones and DiBartolo. Now a team can spend money to the cap. Above and beyond that they can offer to sell their soul, their history, their integrity. That too is a commodity. When they buy troublemakers below market value precisely because they are trouble makers they are trying to buy championships. They increase their buying power by selling their soul. Hey, its just an opinion. Some will understand it, some won't, and no minds will be changed by going over it to exhaustion. If there is one thing I dislike it is those haters who can't just state their opinion and let it be. They have to drive it to death making others miserable. I won't be that guy. I miss the man in the hat. I Miss Staubach, and White and Waters. For nearly 20 years now the franchise has not been one I care to back. Others will differ on this pointing to my foolish sentimentality, my longing for a time they will argue never was, and pointing out that the game is played for championships. I am foolish, I know this. I think the game ought to mean something as well being about championships or it has no soul, and much less value than we actually feel for it. I think the game ought to tell us about the men who play it and about ourselves. It ought to elevate the human condition just a bit rather than dragging it down. Some teams actually achieve this. the Cowboys once did. The Cowboys arguably once did. Maybe thats way many are fans today.
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phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
"God's team" hey? :X Sure, if God loves crack, pot, whores and guns, loves himself more than anything (except his quarterback 
), and when He "makes it rain" it isn't water falling from the sky... What a bunch of winners 
), and when He "makes it rain" it isn't water falling from the sky... What a bunch of winners
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Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
I liked that one too.
Wu-banger
Footballguy
You guys love to hate.....
Was Pacman suspended as a Cowboys ..?? No .. and he still is not a Cowboy (yet)
Was Tank a member of the Boys when he got in trouble...?? No .. and he has been great since he arrived.
Adding Owens in the conversation just shows how it's a piling on / fishing trip. You guys need to start telling the difference between a criminal and a jerk.
Also including past players like Nate .. Haley ... Irvin .. has no bearing on the current team.
Was Pacman suspended as a Cowboys ..?? No .. and he still is not a Cowboy (yet)
Was Tank a member of the Boys when he got in trouble...?? No .. and he has been great since he arrived.
Adding Owens in the conversation just shows how it's a piling on / fishing trip. You guys need to start telling the difference between a criminal and a jerk.
Also including past players like Nate .. Haley ... Irvin .. has no bearing on the current team.
Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
Just so we're clear here, you're admitting TO's a jerk, right?
Wu-banger
Footballguy
Yep .. and has a history of being a malcontent ..... but so far so good with the Boys. But the world is full of jerks .. in business , sports , entertainment .... but not all are criminals and is unfair to blindly lump them into the same category.
Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
What if the category in question is Jerry Jones' complete control (once again) of personnel?
SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
I didn't know this, but it is completely unsurprising to me.
enfuego
Footballguy
Title of this topic fixed...
