What about Felix Jones?I've been to three Razorback games this year and I'm telling you, jump on McFadden as fast as you can. The kid is incredible. He's got a second gear that is AWESOME! He can move the pile, he can burn. He's amazing.
Agreed. And again he's doing that after having toe surgery right before the season. It's incredible if you think about that fact too. He's showing a lot of toughness and heart.I've been to three Razorback games this year and I'm telling you, jump on McFadden as fast as you can. The kid is incredible. He's got a second gear that is AWESOME! He can move the pile, he can burn. He's amazing.
Felix Jones has looked good as well. But he's had some fumbling issues and doesn't have great size. He's probably head for life as a 3rd down back somewhere in the NFL. Maybe better if he can add weight. Either way, McFadden is on a different level, IMO.What about Felix Jones?I've been to three Razorback games this year and I'm telling you, jump on McFadden as fast as you can. The kid is incredible. He's got a second gear that is AWESOME! He can move the pile, he can burn. He's amazing.
Vincent is a slow, soft, and lacks elusiveness. He's a super sleeper who probably won't be drafted. Broussard has NFL size and NFL speed but I don't think he has the wiggle to become a top notch back.Another guy to watch for is Justin Vincent. He is finally a senior at LSU and went from SEC Championship MVP to National Championship MVP as a freshman to a back up roll. He will get drafted and play because he is a good special teams player. Not really sure why he fell on the depth chart after having one of the best freshman seasons in NCAA Football history.
And he can play some QB! who knew?After watching McFadden vs. South Carolina I think he compares with Jamal Lewis. And Jamal had knee trouble before leaving TEN as a Jr. McFadden is still 100% healthy as far as I know.McFadden is definetly and exciting prospect. A big body who can flat out burn.
right now rice is saying that he will return to s. car. next year, now wheather that comes to pass as the NFL draft nears remains to be seen??? he is a red-shirt soph so even if he returns he will have some leverage. also i think boyd returns as well.CJ Spiller - Clemson
James Davis - Clemson
Cory Boyd - South Carolina
Sydney Rice - South Carolina
Mario Manningham -Michigan
Dallas Baker - Florida
Moody has by far looked the most impressive, running with authority. The other guys seem to get tackled on first contact a lot so far. Moody has a badly sprained ankle right now, though, so you probably won't see him again before they play their bowl game. The RB corps will be interesting next year as Wendell Tyler's son has committed to them too. I've seen a few of his high school games on Fox Sports West and he's a stud.What's everyone think of Marlon Lucky, Soph. RB from Nebraska? He was a highly rated recruit but has been average to date.Also, what about USC's group of freshman RB's - S. Johnson, Gable, Moody. Johnson was the highest rated recruit but he's received the least amount of playing time.
Raymell RiceI would take any of these RBs over Moss:
Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
Steve Slaton, RB, WVU
Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
James Davis, RB, Clemson
PJ Hill, RB, Wisconsin![]()
He certainly showed in the first half against Pitt that he can be a factor in the passing game too.Haven't seen West Virginia a lot, but every time Steve Slaton touches the ball he looks like a touchdown waiting to happen. He seems to be playing in a totally different gear. He's smallish at 5'10" 185lbs but hey, that's a little bit bigger than Warrick Dunn.
Seen games with all of these guys play, but the only I specifically noted was Cornish. Has had a very productive season with a lot of carries. Size and build wise reminds of Norwood, but does not seem to have that sort of speed. More of a slashing style and better insider runner. I would place him as a 2nd day type developmental player unless his measurables are better than I think.Anybody have anything on the following RBs in terms of potential NFL success? Height/Weights taken from Yahoo.Jason Snell (Virginia): 5'11", 233 lbs. 142 carries with a 4.89 YPC on the season.Jon Cornish (Kansas): 6'0", 205 lbs. 210 carries, 5.38 YPC.Pierre Thomas Jr. (Illinois): 5'11", 210 lbs. 122 carries, 5.80 YPC.Ronnie McGill (North Carolina): 5'11", 220 lbs. 160 carries, 4.11 YPC. I've seen him play in a few games. Any idea if he has the burst to be a good NFL back?Ahmad Bradshaw (Marshall): 5'11", 192 lbs. 188 carries, 6.13 YPC. Is a junior this season and could come out early.Jalen Parmele (Toledo): 6'0", 222 lbs. 187 carries, 5.39 YPC. Junior but does he have the burst to make it in the NFL?
Don't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Irish said:Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.
Hester is a great versitile player. He can do it all. If he had better breaking speed and a bigger frame we would be watching the first white RB in the NFL in a long time. He will make an NFL special teams, but I can not see him getting a chance at RB anywhere. Charles Scott is a good player, but like LSU in the past I really think it's going to be a RBBC there with Broussard, Williams, Scott for next year as well. We will have to wait and see if one can take over as a better back, but my money is on Williams in the future.Don't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Irish said:Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.
I'd also look at Jamaal Charles out of Texas. He's being under-used badly. Very talented runner and is a Big XII track champion as well.
Agreed. I watch the Longhorns every week down here in Austin, and it's difficult to understand why Young and Charles don't get 30+ combined carries a week behind that massive OLine. Charles reminds me of Willie Parker. He'll need to add weight (just like Willie has), but his acceleration and vision are a lethal combo that will definitely get him a long look in the NFL.I'd also look at Jamaal Charles out of Texas. He's being under-used badly. Very talented runner and is a Big XII track champion as well.Not only has he been underutilized, he has been poorly utilized, running plays which negate much of his speed and quickness advantage. He has incredible vision, patience, burst, top end speed, and cutback ability. He broke Joe Washington's Port Arthur, Tx h.s. career rushing record which stood for over 30 years. He is also quite adept as a receiver out of the backfield. Mysteriously, Greg Davis (Texas OC) has chosen not to take advantage of this skill in 2006. You would think he'd be looking for every opportunity to get a kid like this into the open field.
JC ran a 10.12 100m to take 2nd or 3rd (?) at nationals. He was the fastest guy there who is not a dedicated track athlete. He's a football player running track on the side, and it shows in his running form on the track. He's not polished like the track guys, yet still turns in some amazing times.
For those not familiar with Mack Brown/Greg Davis years at Texas, the offense has been largely successful despite Greg Davis. He always seems to be 1 year to 2 years behind on how to best utilized his players. Anyway, as long as charles continues to run track, I am doubting that he adds the weight. Once he becomes a fulltime football player, his frame looks to be able to carry 10-15 pounds easily. The good news for his pro future is that between track in the spring and Greg Davis not getting him that many touches, he will have a relatively fresh body.Agreed. I watch the Longhorns every week down here in Austin, and it's difficult to understand why Young and Charles don't get 30+ combined carries a week behind that massive OLine. Charles reminds me of Willie Parker. He'll need to add weight (just like Willie has), but his acceleration and vision are a lethal combo that will definitely get him a long look in the NFL.I'd also look at Jamaal Charles out of Texas. He's being under-used badly. Very talented runner and is a Big XII track champion as well.Not only has he been underutilized, he has been poorly utilized, running plays which negate much of his speed and quickness advantage. He has incredible vision, patience, burst, top end speed, and cutback ability. He broke Joe Washington's Port Arthur, Tx h.s. career rushing record which stood for over 30 years. He is also quite adept as a receiver out of the backfield. Mysteriously, Greg Davis (Texas OC) has chosen not to take advantage of this skill in 2006. You would think he'd be looking for every opportunity to get a kid like this into the open field.
JC ran a 10.12 100m to take 2nd or 3rd (?) at nationals. He was the fastest guy there who is not a dedicated track athlete. He's a football player running track on the side, and it shows in his running form on the track. He's not polished like the track guys, yet still turns in some amazing times.
fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
It's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
It's a bias view. Of course their RB looks the best. Not saying I don't want to hear the homer's view, but I would not base who I pick in a college draft (as the original poster does) on the information I hear from homers.It's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
Why would anyone, esp when it comes to the up and coming talent in the college game, discount the homer's take on a specific guy, and then accept someone else' all-encompassing view/ranking of graduating talent?
Almost everyone on this board has a biased view of players from some school or another. Most of us are homers...so who are you gonna listen to? You're probably a homer, too. Besides, most people aren't touting their guy over anyone else in particular or saying he's the best pick. They're usually just telling why they think x player will do well. That was certainly the case with the guys talking about Charles.It's a bias view. Of course their RB looks the best. Not saying I don't want to hear the homer's view, but I would not base who I pick in a college draft (as the original poster does) on the information I hear from homers.It's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
Why would anyone, esp when it comes to the up and coming talent in the college game, discount the homer's take on a specific guy, and then accept someone else' all-encompassing view/ranking of graduating talent?
It depends upon the homer, but most people here tend to be pretty objective about the talent on their teams, which is why this board is such a valuable resource.It's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
Why would anyone, esp when it comes to the up and coming talent in the college game, discount the homer's take on a specific guy, and then accept someone else' all-encompassing view/ranking of graduating talent?
I agree. I was the one who brought up Charles and I'm no Texas fan. I'm a CU alum. Unfortunately we suck right now so I have no one from the Buffs to give a homer recommendation onIt's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
Why would anyone, esp when it comes to the up and coming talent in the college game, discount the homer's take on a specific guy, and then accept someone else' all-encompassing view/ranking of graduating talent?
LSU has a ridiculous amount of talented RBs. It makes me sickDon't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Irish said:Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.
I agree, it depends on the poster. There are several posts I have seen that are better than others. I can ussually pick out the ones, who are not as objective and unbias. I guess I say it because as an LSU and SEC fan I saw a couple of bias opinions.It depends upon the homer, but most people here tend to be pretty objective about the talent on their teams, which is why this board is such a valuable resource.It's really funny, ya know...on this board people come on here all the time specifically seeking the perceptions of homers because they are closer to the teams and generally hear more news about certain players and team philosophies, etc. Then when there's a thread concerning evaluation of up and coming talent, many attempt to discredit the opinions of some specifically because they are homers. I'd say any serious Texas fan would know far more about Jamaal Charles than most, just as the serious tOSU fan would know more about Pittman, or aTm fan with Goodson, etc.fixedI'd be interested to see potential NFL rookie RB rankings from Cappy or Bagger.
I don't trust the rest of you yabbos homers.
Why would anyone, esp when it comes to the up and coming talent in the college game, discount the homer's take on a specific guy, and then accept someone else' all-encompassing view/ranking of graduating talent?
Hester will be back next year as well. You don't think 6'0" 230lbs is a big frame for a RB? I also heard an announcer mention that he runs something like a 4.4 forty. He sure doesn't look like it sometimes.Hester is a great versitile player. He can do it all. If he had better breaking speed and a bigger frame we would be watching the first white RB in the NFL in a long time. He will make an NFL special teams, but I can not see him getting a chance at RB anywhere. Charles Scott is a good player, but like LSU in the past I really think it's going to be a RBBC there with Broussard, Williams, Scott for next year as well. We will have to wait and see if one can take over as a better back, but my money is on Williams in the future.Don't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.
He is not 6 foot 230lbs. You must be reading the media guide and listening to knuckle heads. He is shorter and skinner than me at 6 foot 220.Hester will be back next year as well. You don't think 6'0" 230lbs is a big frame for a RB? I also heard an announcer mention that he runs something like a 4.4 forty. He sure doesn't look like it sometimes.Hester is a great versitile player. He can do it all. If he had better breaking speed and a bigger frame we would be watching the first white RB in the NFL in a long time. He will make an NFL special teams, but I can not see him getting a chance at RB anywhere. Charles Scott is a good player, but like LSU in the past I really think it's going to be a RBBC there with Broussard, Williams, Scott for next year as well. We will have to wait and see if one can take over as a better back, but my money is on Williams in the future.Don't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.
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Hester is listed at 6 foot 232 in this link. LSU RosterATC1 said:He is not 6 foot 230lbs. You must be reading the media guide and listening to knuckle heads. He is shorter and skinner than me at 6 foot 220.nortobc said:Hester will be back next year as well. You don't think 6'0" 230lbs is a big frame for a RB? I also heard an announcer mention that he runs something like a 4.4 forty. He sure doesn't look like it sometimes.Hester is a great versitile player. He can do it all. If he had better breaking speed and a bigger frame we would be watching the first white RB in the NFL in a long time. He will make an NFL special teams, but I can not see him getting a chance at RB anywhere. Charles Scott is a good player, but like LSU in the past I really think it's going to be a RBBC there with Broussard, Williams, Scott for next year as well. We will have to wait and see if one can take over as a better back, but my money is on Williams in the future.Don't think so. The top freshman RBs are Chris Wells, CJ Spiller, Keiland Williams and Goodson. LSU also has a stud freshman in Charles Scott.How good do you think Jacob Hester will be in the NFL? He is 6'0", 228lbs white RB for LSU and plays alot. He might be leading the team in yards. I think he is LSU's best RB. Don't think he has blazing speed. He is a tough runner who follows his blocks very well and has great hands. He might be leading the team in receptions too.Has anyone mentioned Chris Wells the freshman at Ohio St.