Todd Bouman...is this guy going to kill all JAX player value? (1 Viewer)

[Black]

I have seen (somewhat) favorable rankings for Jacksonville for Mike Thomas, even MJD.

How is this possible with a terrible team, previously under an average Garrard, but now handed over to a 38-year old journeyman? Bouman hasn't won a game since 2001; hasn't started a game since 2005; and only has six career starts.

How is KC not a lock, the KC D/ST not top 5 and more than 3 points a possibility?

Even in PPR, MJD hasn't had more than 4 targets all year (3 1 3 2 4 2)...

I am considering benching MJD for M. Lynch. Anyone else have such plans?

 

[facook]

Not a stretch, but I'm benching MJD for Jamaal Charles in one league.

Keeping him in the lineup in another because my other options are Ronnie Brown and Green-Ellis. ugh.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

In one league, because of byes, I was going to start Thomas in the flex, but with Bouman at QB I'm putting in Whitehead in that spot. Edwards targeted Thomas a lot, but who knows what will happen with Bouman throwing it.

 

[Sabertooth]

Seriously considering benching MJD for Jonathan Stewart. As an aside, I scooped up KC Defense in two league for this matchup. They also have Buffalo next week which is nice (shout out to lakerstan's thread here for the headsup on that).

 

[Cripster]

Thinking of benching him for Ivory

 

[Kree]

I'm sort of thinking Lewis may be the valve play for Bouman, so still tempted to keep him in at a flex spot with Djax injured, Garcon on bye, Stewart, MSW and Tate unreliable. It's just unlikely he remains the red zone target (On their 0 red zone plays )

 

[cvnpoka]

lol benching mjd for ivory or gasp jonathan stewart.

 

[Wombat1]

Just traded MJD this week, I know its selling low but I managed to get Mendenhall in the deal (it included other players, had to give up Beanie). Redraft leagues I would say trade MJD asap while he has some name value.

 

[coltsnut]

BENCHING HIM FOR LYNCH

 

[dmac37]

I really want to plug in Mike 'PPR Machine" Thomas but very leary with Bouman at QB.

 

[Sweet Love]

Remember earlier in the year when plugging in the St. Louis D against the Lions seemed like a good idea with a journeyman at QB? Sure, Bowman is no Hill, but while we have no idea of what to expect out of him, neither does the opposing Defense. I am not saying he will light it up, but I would rather face Garrard (who I have a ton of film on) than a guy like Bowman who I know little about overall, and nothing about how he uses his teammates.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I'm sort of thinking Lewis may be the valve play for Bouman,

This is what I was thinking. If any of the Jags retain any shred of value this week, it might(MIGHT) be Lewis.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I have seen (somewhat) favorable rankings for Jacksonville for Mike Thomas, even MJD. How is this possible with a terrible team, previously under an average Garrard, but now handed over to a 38-year old journeyman? Bouman hasn't won a game since 2001; hasn't started a game since 2005; and only has six career starts.How is KC not a lock, the KC D/ST not top 5 and more than 3 points a possibility?Even in PPR, MJD hasn't had more than 4 targets all year (3 1 3 2 4 2)...I am considering benching MJD for M. Lynch. Anyone else have such plans?

I don't understand the low ranking for KC's D either. Then again, the defensive rankings have really been way off base all year.

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

I'm sort of thinking Lewis may be the valve play for Bouman,

This is what I was thinking. If any of the Jags retain any shred of value this week, it might(MIGHT) be Lewis.

Going to roll with JCharles over MJD this week. Still hope (doubtful though) that he can have a solid week though, This guy's value is in the toilet.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Seriously considering benching MJD for Jonathan Stewart. As an aside, I scooped up KC Defense in two league for this matchup. They also have Buffalo next week which is nice (shout out to lakerstan's thread here for the headsup on that).

Saber, no RB for Carolina has played well...stay with MJD with that choice

 

[Fiddles]

I'm sort of thinking Lewis may be the valve play for Bouman,

This is what I was thinking. If any of the Jags retain any shred of value this week, it might(MIGHT) be Lewis.

Or thomas

 

[cr8f]

He did well for the Vikings and Saints earlier in his career but that was 8 years ago. He could surprise.

 

[Sweet Love]

He did well for the Vikings and Saints earlier in his career but that was 8 years ago. He could surprise.

This is my feeling too. I am more depending on him this week than "touting" him, but I do think the element of surprise may help him some. Think about Todd Collins...he spent years on the KC bench without having thrown a ball and when called to duty did well in short spurts. I believe this could have just been because he was (1) prepared and (2) caught defenses off guard. Fast forward to 2010 and he put up an all-time stinker in his one opportunity, but I think that may have been due to speed of the pash rush versus the defense "knowing" him.Either way, it will be really interesting to see what he can or can't do...the guy is in on a team for some reason and I have casually realized that most NFL teams are not real generous about keeping on old vets in the QB#3 slot.

 

[dwashington]

Is it confirmed that Bouman is starting over Edwards?

 

[thatguythere]

He did well for the Vikings and Saints earlier in his career but that was 8 years ago. He could surprise.

This is my feeling too. I am more depending on him this week than "touting" him, but I do think the element of surprise may help him some. Think about Todd Collins...he spent years on the KC bench without having thrown a ball and when called to duty did well in short spurts. I believe this could have just been because he was (1) prepared and (2) caught defenses off guard. Fast forward to 2010 and he put up an all-time stinker in his one opportunity, but I think that may have been due to speed of the pash rush versus the defense "knowing" him.Either way, it will be really interesting to see what he can or can't do...the guy is in on a team for some reason and I have casually realized that most NFL teams are not real generous about keeping on old vets in the QB#3 slot.

I don't know guys. KC is an awfully tough place to play in, let along your first game in quite some time. If he was that impressive he wouldn't have been passed on the depth chart by a QB picked up off the street after being cut by the Bills.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

He did well for the Vikings and Saints earlier in his career but that was 8 years ago. He could surprise.

This is my feeling too. I am more depending on him this week than "touting" him, but I do think the element of surprise may help him some. Think about Todd Collins...he spent years on the KC bench without having thrown a ball and when called to duty did well in short spurts. I believe this could have just been because he was (1) prepared and (2) caught defenses off guard. Fast forward to 2010 and he put up an all-time stinker in his one opportunity, but I think that may have been due to speed of the pash rush versus the defense "knowing" him.Either way, it will be really interesting to see what he can or can't do...the guy is in on a team for some reason and I have casually realized that most NFL teams are not real generous about keeping on old vets in the QB#3 slot.

lol I think todd collins is a perfect comparison --- and what'd he do in his second opportunity?yeah, he's on a team for some mysterious reason, and that reason is because their qb's both got knocked out and they have to field somebody at the position.he did well for the vikings and saints.....who are you even talking about??

 

[acme]

He did well for the Vikings and Saints earlier in his career but that was 8 years ago. He could surprise.

started a hella game in week 13 of 2001 pitching for more than 300 yards and hitting on 3 TDs.i remember so well because week 13 is week 1 of our playoffs. my bro-bro started him against me. ouch!

 

[Double D]

I am putting MJD on the bench for Ryan Torain. If I would have played Torain last week instead of MJD, I would have won. Because I played MJD I lost by 3 points! MJD has been a real disappointment this year. I took him 3rd overall in the draft and wish I hadn't.

I am now riding "The Train"

 

[atcdav]

patrick ramsey second half. I am starting MJD over Wells, tough call, also starting Mike Thomas over Ronnie Brown for now

 

[gotexansgo]

Wait....wait.....JAX players had value before?

 

[wlwiles]

I have seen (somewhat) favorable rankings for Jacksonville for Mike Thomas, even MJD. How is this possible with a terrible team, previously under an average Garrard, but now handed over to a 38-year old journeyman? Bouman hasn't won a game since 2001; hasn't started a game since 2005; and only has six career starts.How is KC not a lock, the KC D/ST not top 5 and more than 3 points a possibility?Even in PPR, MJD hasn't had more than 4 targets all year (3 1 3 2 4 2)...I am considering benching MJD for M. Lynch. Anyone else have such plans?

I don't understand the low ranking for KC's D either. Then again, the defensive rankings have really been way off base all year.

Last week the Bears D was projected top 2 (~20 pts) vs. Seattle, and only because of a very late return TD did they end up with any points at all.

 

[Patoons]

Wait....wait.....JAX players had value before?

Does a top 25 PPR receiver hold value for you? He does for me.

 

[gotexansgo]

Does a top 25 PPR receiver hold value for you? He does for me.

Not even top 40 in my league..

 

[rubennbl]

Hmm.. After reading this thread, I'm tempted to bench MJD and start Ryan Mathews.

MJD cost me my first loss this year, I was 5-0 till last week. He has been such a disappointment this year.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Does a top 25 PPR receiver hold value for you? He does for me.

Not even top 40 in my league..

Are you talking about the same guy (Mike Thomas)? He's 26th at worst in my PPR leagues.

 

[gotexansgo]

Are you talking about the same guy (Mike Thomas)? He's 26th at worst in my PPR leagues.

yea. tied for 41st in my league.. 2pts every 2 catches.

 

[SuperGreen]

Are you talking about the same guy (Mike Thomas)? He's 26th at worst in my PPR leagues.

yea. tied for 41st in my league.. 2pts every 2 catches.

as opposed to 1 pt for every 1 catch?

 

[PatytonsGhost]

Since everyone seems to be benching MJD this week he is now guaranteed to blow up against the Chiefs. I am starting him with confidence and expect him to carry the team today.

 

[goodoldalky]

I have no other option really in a league where Floyd at WR 2 is out for me.. Starting MSW, expecting straight 0's. If he breaks 50 yards I'd be happy with that. I wouldn't expect much out of any Jags today but that's just me.. MJD is the only one I could see starting and it's because he should get about 50-60 carries with the noodle arms hucking the ball around for the Jags..

 

[cubbie5150]

Since everyone seems to be benching MJD this week he is now guaranteed to blow up against the Chiefs. I am starting him with confidence and expect him to carry the team today.

Yep; I like the contrarian play too.... I don't have MJD, but am thinking of starting Bears DST instead of the Chiefs since everyone's on their jock now, assuming Jags offense poses no threat.

 

[Donnybrook]

Is it confirmed that Bouman is starting over Edwards?

Shefter confirmed it is Bouman starting. Still you got to wonder if Bouman will get the early hook for Edwards.

 

[ponchsox]

MJD looking good in this one, just missed his second TD

 

[GManiac]

why does anyone bench MJD. So silly.

 

[Bri]

Bouman threw for 400 yards in a game for the Vikes like 50 years ago

 

[Black]

Bouman threw for 400 yards in a game for the Vikes like 50 years ago

Somehow I survived benching MJD who had a very good game in PPR. The most action he's had all year. The Mike Thomas benching was a bit more apropos. Not sure what to think going forward, but probably will find a way to keep MJD in there.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Bouman threw for 400 yards in a game for the Vikes like 50 years ago

348 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT vs. Tennessee in 2001 (one of the worst pass defenses in the league that year).

 

[Sam Quentin]

Maybe people will start to see how bad Garrard is now...

 

[Sam Quentin]

Trent Freakin Edwards and scrap heap acquisition Bouman have both looked better than Garrard...