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Tom Brady, broken ribs (1 Viewer)
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Sam Quentin
Footballguy
link?
wasn't he like 23 of 28 or somesuch recently. I remember reading how awesome he was that game, how it looked like Brady from their best offensive season etc.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Bill Simmons reported this a month ago. He even said that it was weird that nobody was bothering to investigate it.
he hasn't been sacked much this year. "Something not right" as the guy is close to perfect(in a QBs world) was what didn't seem right to me. Even if Mac_32 is correct, the Pats are surely fine with that production making it irrelevant
SkyRattlers
Anti-aliai
I'm quite sure it happened against the Dolphins. He had to go to the locker room after a big hit to his ribs on the first drive. And there was a point in the second half where you get see him adjust a flak jacket strap after one of the plays.
HOUSTON (AP)—New England Patriots receiver Wes Welker(notes) injured his left knee in the first quarter of Sunday’s game in Houston and the team said he will not return.
Welker caught a pass from Tom Brady(notes) on New England’s first possession and his knee appeared to buckle as he turned upfield. Trainers helped Welker off the field and he was taken to the locker room on a cart.
Welker entered the game with 122 catches for 1,336 yards and four touchdowns this season.
Brady started despite a rib injury. A Patriots spokesman said he was not aware of Brady having broken ribs, despite a CBS Sports report.
The Patriots’ defense stopped Houston at the 1-yard line late in the first half, and rookie Brian Hoyer(notes) replaced Brady. Hoyer handed off to Fred Taylor(notes) on his first snap, Taylor fumbled and safety Bernard Pollard(notes) recovered in the end zone to give the Texans a 13-10 lead.
Brady was 10 for 14 for 135 yards when he departed.
New England center Dan Connolly(notes) left in the second quarter with an ankle injury, and the team said his return was questionable.
Welker caught a pass from Tom Brady(notes) on New England’s first possession and his knee appeared to buckle as he turned upfield. Trainers helped Welker off the field and he was taken to the locker room on a cart.
Welker entered the game with 122 catches for 1,336 yards and four touchdowns this season.
Brady started despite a rib injury. A Patriots spokesman said he was not aware of Brady having broken ribs, despite a CBS Sports report.
The Patriots’ defense stopped Houston at the 1-yard line late in the first half, and rookie Brian Hoyer(notes) replaced Brady. Hoyer handed off to Fred Taylor(notes) on his first snap, Taylor fumbled and safety Bernard Pollard(notes) recovered in the end zone to give the Texans a 13-10 lead.
Brady was 10 for 14 for 135 yards when he departed.
New England center Dan Connolly(notes) left in the second quarter with an ankle injury, and the team said his return was questionable.
This is accurate. I guess it is alright for the colts to list 30 players on the injury report.
switz
Footballguy
This is accurate. I guess it is alright for the colts to list 30 players on the injury report.
I doubt Brady has broken ribs, I don't even think he has bruised ribs. And if he did, how stupid to play him for nearly all this week's game. Especially if they didn't care to win, which is unlikely give how much they played the starters, especially after Welker's injury.Did you see how drugged up he was in the postgame interview after the miami game? Have you noticed how the run pass balance has changed since that game?
I think you are underestimating Brady and his competitiveness.
eta: maybe the the Patriots feel there best to reach the Super Bowl is to face the Chargers (Norv Turner) than the Colts.
I think you are underestimating Brady and his competitiveness.
eta: maybe the the Patriots feel there best to reach the Super Bowl is to face the Chargers (Norv Turner) than the Colts.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
True. Word on the street is that Brady doesn't even have ribs.
switz
Footballguy
37 passes versus Miami, next 3 games? 42, 41, 36. I think your theory is unsound.Brady's attempts really didn't drop significantly until last week.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I would think it's the opposite.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Brady could be missing his right hand and Bellichick would keep him off the injury report.
Switz, don't let facts get in the way of your argument.
Also check out this article that talks about the philosophical change that has occurred with the Patriots. Here is another thought for you to ponder maybe the Patriots were trying to win the game today, and give Hoyer experience in certain situations. In case you don't' know the Patriots philospophy is to excel in situation football.
Here are the numbers for the patriots in the four weeks after the rib injury:
week 14 carolina 32 pass attempts 40 rush attempts
week 15 buffalo 23 pass attempts 34 rush attempts
week 16 jax 26 pass attempts 36 rush attempts.
week 17 houston 38 pass attempts 19 rush attempts
Also check out this article that talks about the philosophical change that has occurred with the Patriots. Here is another thought for you to ponder maybe the Patriots were trying to win the game today, and give Hoyer experience in certain situations. In case you don't' know the Patriots philospophy is to excel in situation football.
Here are the numbers for the patriots in the four weeks after the rib injury:
week 14 carolina 32 pass attempts 40 rush attempts
week 15 buffalo 23 pass attempts 34 rush attempts
week 16 jax 26 pass attempts 36 rush attempts.
week 17 houston 38 pass attempts 19 rush attempts
fatness
Footballguy
PR attempt to get refs to throw more flags when D-linemen touch him?
There was a play where he was a little Gislele like in asking for a flag. IMO, the refs got it right.
Would you stick around if my avatar was Jwow?
switz
Footballguy
Yeah I ran off
I'm not on my computer 100% of the time, I actually have a life.Still wondering what "lies" I'm spreading, considering I haven't stated anything as fact, except when I posted the number of attempts Brady had in the three games following the MIA game.As far as your post, that's all speculation, nothing factual either. It's called opinions and points of view. Ours differ - doesn't mean either of us are "liars"
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I love this defense.Yeah I ran off
Still wondering what "lies" I'm spreading, considering I haven't stated anything as fact, except when I posted the number of attempts Brady had in the three games following the MIA game.
As far as your post, that's all speculation, nothing factual either. It's called opinions and points of view. Ours differ - doesn't mean either of us are "liars"
switz
Footballguy
Can you quote anything fom that article which ties the change in offensive situations to a Brady rib injury? No, you can't.Plus, that article was about formations, not run versus pass. It doesn't support your argument one iota.
So you said it happened against Miami, I looked at the week 9 game, you must have been referring to the week 13 game.He had 29 attempts versus Miami, the next week he threw MORE (32), not less. The only week he threw alot less was week 15, weeks 16 & 17 he threw a mere 3 fewer passes, that's not a significant shift in pass versus run. In fact in week 17 he had his best completion % of the season.
Weeks 4-7 he was throwing about 32 passes per game, does that mean he was injured then too, since in weeks 1-3 he was averaging around 46 passes per game? See, you're making assumptions about causation, but there's no real evidence to support your conclusion.
If you argued he got hurt week 13 and it was affecting hi weeks 14 & 15 I'd buy it, but there's no evidence to suggest it bothered him past week 15 at all.
You challenge me and call me a liar, but you're the one twisting things to try to support an incorrect statement. The Pats denied he had broken ribs (they could be lying) and the passing attempts haven't dropped significantly enough to indicate Brady was ailing, outside of perhaps week 15, which was two games after the game you claim he was injured in. And even if he WAS injured in that game, nothing indicates he's still injured, and definitely nothing indicates it was as severe as 3 broken ribs.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Calling you a liar was innappropriate; laughingly misguided, misinformed and blinded by an irrational jealousy and dislike for Brady is a much better description for the nonsense you incessantly spew with regard to all things Brady.
The "fact' of the matter is there are numerous reports regarding Brady's injured ribs and zero basis for your malformed opinion
Give it a rest..........
So you said it happened against Miami, I looked at the week 9 game, you must have been referring to the week 13 game........
If you argued he got hurt week 13 and it was affecting hi weeks 14 & 15 I'd buy it, but there's no evidence to suggest it bothered him past week 15 at all.
You challenge me and call me a liar, but you're the one twisting things to try to support an incorrect statement. The Pats denied he had broken ribs (they could be lying) and the passing attempts haven't dropped significantly enough to indicate Brady was ailing, outside of perhaps week 15, which was two games after the game you claim he was injured in. And even if he WAS injured in that game, nothing indicates he's still injured, and definitely nothing indicates it was as severe as 3 broken ribs.
I am sorry for calling you liar. It is apparent that you do not watch the games and maybe you are ignorant.
If you argued he got hurt week 13 and it was affecting hi weeks 14 & 15 I'd buy it, but there's no evidence to suggest it bothered him past week 15 at all.
You challenge me and call me a liar, but you're the one twisting things to try to support an incorrect statement. The Pats denied he had broken ribs (they could be lying) and the passing attempts haven't dropped significantly enough to indicate Brady was ailing, outside of perhaps week 15, which was two games after the game you claim he was injured in. And even if he WAS injured in that game, nothing indicates he's still injured, and definitely nothing indicates it was as severe as 3 broken ribs.
I am sorry for calling you liar. It is apparent that you do not watch the games and maybe you are ignorant.
switz
Footballguy
I never said he threw 42 passes in week 14. Re-read the thread.I said the game after the played Miami he threw 42 passes. Unfortunately I looked at the first MIA-NE game, not the second.
You're trying to make a point, but the point you're making isn't what you're attempting to make.
Please keep this on the topic an not trying to take shots at each other. Find another board if you're unable to do that. TIA.
J
J
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
haha....I just listened to belichick's weekly radio spot and he compared charlie casserly to a meteorologist with regard to his accuracy.
Serenity Now
Footballguy
It's not been a secret that the shot he took in the Miami game hurt him. He's got a broken finger on his throwing hand and this "mysterious" rib injury.
I think they only let out the info that there were cracked ribs if they're healed by now.
I think they only let out the info that there were cracked ribs if they're healed by now.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Did he start last Sunday? If so, they're not that bad knowing they were playing in the playoffs the following week.
