Chaser1439
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I say yes. As bad as their defense will be the golden boy will be the point leader if you get 6 points per passing td
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the UFFRM
Footballguy
My main league is 6pts per pass TD, supports IDPs, and is 14 teams. Lineup REQS = QB, RB, WR, TE, K, 3-flex(RB,WR,TE), and 4 IDPs.
Here are the top 10 overall scorers:
Brady 415
Moss 317
Romo 296
LT 293
Westy 281
Peyton 276
D. Anderson 254
Terence McGee 258 (all return yards 1-14)
T.O. 253
Drew Brees 248
Even though 2007 was likely his career peak, Brady is obviously worth the top pick in my league let alone a top 4 pick. I think that the same would be true for most leagues that reward 6 per TD. Even in 4 per TD leagues I could understand mid to late R1 or early R2.
Here are the top 10 overall scorers:
Brady 415
Moss 317
Romo 296
LT 293
Westy 281
Peyton 276
D. Anderson 254
Terence McGee 258 (all return yards 1-14)
T.O. 253
Drew Brees 248
Even though 2007 was likely his career peak, Brady is obviously worth the top pick in my league let alone a top 4 pick. I think that the same would be true for most leagues that reward 6 per TD. Even in 4 per TD leagues I could understand mid to late R1 or early R2.
Boston
Footballguy
What do you mean "as bad as their defense will be." It was a top 10 unit last year that has only lost two starters (Samuel and Colvin...I'm assuming Junior returns). They have added a lot of players in their back eight (Hobson, Mayo, Crable, Ruud, Bryant, Sanders, Webster, Wilhite and Wheatley). I can easily see scenarios where this unit is better or worse than last year depending on a few things (the rookies, how the agent free CBs pan out, Hobbs being healthy, Merriweather improving, Adaluis being more comfortable and Seymour being healthy and returning to form). Saying that they will be bad doesn't make sense because they have a chance to be anywhere from very good to decent but I don't see them being bad.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
Brady, IMO, is overrated in this year's fantasy drafts. He won't come close to repeating 50 TDs. Not one of the record breakers in recent memory has come close to repeating that feat the following season. Manning, LT2, Jamal ( 2k season)..
Brady's career avg is closer to 27-28td. That'll make him a top 2-3 QB, but not worthy of the #1 overall pick..Also, will the Pats get back to a more conventional attack,i.e., power running game? if so, you can be sure that Brady's numbers will suffer greatly ( from last years records, that is).
I still think RBs like LT2, A. Peterson, et al, deserve first crack at the #1 overall pick..
I'd rather let someone else overpay Brady in 2008.. I mean, when you drafted back in 2006, where did Brady go, 2nd round?
he's *should* be drafted in the same spot , but because of the record-breaking season, GMs will overpay for him.
Brady's career avg is closer to 27-28td. That'll make him a top 2-3 QB, but not worthy of the #1 overall pick..Also, will the Pats get back to a more conventional attack,i.e., power running game? if so, you can be sure that Brady's numbers will suffer greatly ( from last years records, that is).
I still think RBs like LT2, A. Peterson, et al, deserve first crack at the #1 overall pick..
I'd rather let someone else overpay Brady in 2008.. I mean, when you drafted back in 2006, where did Brady go, 2nd round?
he's *should* be drafted in the same spot , but because of the record-breaking season, GMs will overpay for him.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
fsufan
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I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day and he said Brady should be drafted #1 in all leaguesdont be that guy who drafts Brady the year after he gets 50 and only gets you 31
, I told him he was crazy 
. If you get the #1 pick you can draft LT or ADP and then get a solid QB like Brees, Manning or Romo with your 2nd or 3rd pick. It would not surprise me if NE runs the ball more this year.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
I would be very careful in projecting Brady's ranking this year in regards to last year's numbers.
As has been pointed out already, he will most certainly come back to earth to some degree, and for good reason.
1. The Patriots had a hard time fielding healthy RBs last year, putting the onus on Brady and the passing game.
Maroney and Morris are now healthy. I think we'll see a little more ball control this year, lessening the time the defense is on the field.
2. Belichick had his whole "rub me wrong" kind of thing going on last year with the whole spygate thing and being accused of running up scores. I think that backslides this year as well.
As has been pointed out already, he will most certainly come back to earth to some degree, and for good reason.
1. The Patriots had a hard time fielding healthy RBs last year, putting the onus on Brady and the passing game.
Maroney and Morris are now healthy. I think we'll see a little more ball control this year, lessening the time the defense is on the field.
2. Belichick had his whole "rub me wrong" kind of thing going on last year with the whole spygate thing and being accused of running up scores. I think that backslides this year as well.
fridayfrenzy
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Brady's average and how he faired in 2006 has less meaning because Brady never had Randy Moss and Wes Welker to throw to. Look at what he did with them and who is on his team this year.I don't think anyone is expecting another 50 TDs out of Brady, but Brady doesn't need 50 TDs to have enough value to be drafted in the first 4 picks. Brady could have thrown approximately 12 less TDs last year and still be the #1 player.Tanner9919 said:
twitch
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Drafting a QB in the 1st round is NEVER part of a draft strategy Ive followed. Having said that, New England has the easiest schedule in the league. If I were sitting in the 5-7 spot, Brady would be tops on my radar. But understanding they may mix it up a little more this year, Id be looking to add Maroney in the middle of the 3rd. If you lock up Brady, and gain control of that ground game as well, you cover all bases. For owners who are into insurance, you snag Sammy Morris somewhere in the late rounds. I wouldnt personally take him before the 9th or 10th round. But it certainly wouldnt hurt at that point.
People have won leagues for years with Manning and Edge on the same team. You knew atleast one of those guys, but usually both, was going to light it up virtually every week. But there have been plenty of great QB/RB combos that paid off. Brees/Tomlinson. TGreen/Holmes-LJ. Hasselbeck/Alexander. Now, Romo/Barber.
I cant recall having a prolific Q/RB combo on any of the stronger teams Ive had in the past. But with the right players on the right team with the right schedule, it can pay big. Brady-Maroney this year should be one of those to consider. I think their respective draft positions will make it possible. And obviously Im a homer. But it still makes sense.
People have won leagues for years with Manning and Edge on the same team. You knew atleast one of those guys, but usually both, was going to light it up virtually every week. But there have been plenty of great QB/RB combos that paid off. Brees/Tomlinson. TGreen/Holmes-LJ. Hasselbeck/Alexander. Now, Romo/Barber.
I cant recall having a prolific Q/RB combo on any of the stronger teams Ive had in the past. But with the right players on the right team with the right schedule, it can pay big. Brady-Maroney this year should be one of those to consider. I think their respective draft positions will make it possible. And obviously Im a homer. But it still makes sense.
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Boston
Footballguy
Excellent point. Comparing Brady's numbers when he was throwing to Reche Caldwell and Doug Gabriel as opposed to Randy Moss and Wes Welker makes zero sense. Also, I keep reading where many think the Pats are going to go to a more ball control offense...yet, I see zero evidence to support this. If you look at BB's history he plays to his team's strengths. Right now that strength is the passing game. Brady is their best player, the O line (outside of the Giants game) excels in pass protection and they have legit firepower at the passing skill positions. This team is not built like the team was in Corey Dillon's first year. They're still going to run but unless Maroney takes his game to another level (or two) I just don't see BB taking the ball out of Brady's hands in a dramatic fashion (i.e. enough to have normal stats). That's not his MO. Also, I don't see that chip being off of his shoulder anytime soon. BB hasn't forgiven Tom Jackson for something he said in 2002 and I don't see his attitude changing too much from last year.
While I don't think Brady will have 50 Tds again I don't see him going back to the high 20's either. I think a very safe number to project is 35. I think this is a safe number to use when deciding how high you're willing to draft him over other quality studs.
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