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Tom Brady's Unusual 2005 season (1 Viewer)

Workhorse

Footballguy
Brady's 2005 season ranks as the 42nd highest single season passing yardage total in NFL history. Out of the top 50, only FOUR QBs broke 4100 yards without having a single 1,000 receiver.Marino did it twice, Brian Sipe in 1980 and now Tom Brady.

Code:
D Marino      1984   5084  clayton, duperK Warner      2001   4830   bruce, holtD Fouts       1981   4802   joinerD Marino      1986   4746   clayton, duperD Culpepper   2004   4717   burlesonD Fouts       1980   4715   jefferson, joinerW Moon        1991   4690   hill, jeffriesW Moon        1990   4689   hill, jeffriesR Gannon      2002   4689   riceN Lomax       1984   4614   roy greenT Green       2004   4591   kennisonP Manning     2004   4557   harrison, stokely, wayneD Bledsoe     1994   4555   coatesL Dickey      1983   4458   loftonD Marino      1994   4453   fryarS Beuerlein   1999   4436   jeffers, muhammadD Marino      1988   4434   claytonP Manning     2000   4413   harrisonB Favre       1995   4413   brooksM Brunell     1996   4367   mccardell, smithD Bledsoe     2002   4359   moulds, priceK Warner      1999   4353   bruce, faulkB Kenney      1983   4348   carlos carsonS Mitchell    1995   4338   moore, perrimanD Majkowski   1989   4318   sharpeJ Everett     1989   4310   anderson, ellardJ Garcia      2000   4278   t.o.P Manning     2003   4267   harrisonW Moon        1994   4264   carter, reedW Moon        1995   4228   carter, reedB Favre       1998   4212   freemanP Manning     2002   4200   harrisonV Testaverde  1996   4177   alexander, jacksonS Young       1998   4170   riceE Grbac       2000   4164   alexanderJ George      1995   4143   emanuel, mathis, metcalfD Marino      1985   4137   NONEP Manning     1999   4135   harrisonB Sipe        1980   4132   NONEP Manning     2001   4131   HarrisonD Marino      1992   4116   NONET Brady       2005   4110   NONEJ Schroeder   1986   4109   Clark, MonkB Favre       1999   4091   Freeman, SchroederJ Plummer     2004   4089   Lelie, SmithB Favre       2004   4088   Driver, WalkerD Bledsoe     1996   4086   GlennD Fouts       1979   4082   Jefferson, JoinerK Collins     2002   4073   Toomer
Kind of interesting...
 

PMENFAN

Footballguy
Interesting little tidbit. That is a lot of yards to be spreading around, and not having a guy like a TO that can take a 10 yarder home.

 

Phlash

Footballguy
As well you have to understand that the offense uses the TEs and RBs to pick up yardage, while using speedster WRs like Tim Dwight and Deion Branch and Andre Davis to make the big plays.TEs and RBs have had 140 receptions total whereas the WRs have had 211 receptions. There were 7 Patriots with over 20 receptions (as well as one with 19, and one with 16). The ball is being spread around a LOT.

 

Workhorse

Footballguy
Part II is even more interesting:Brady has ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in passing yards each year for the past 4 seasons.He is the ONLY Top 10 QB without a single 1,000 receiver in EACH of those four seasons.Check it out:

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2002:R Gannon       4689	RiceD Bledsoe      4359	Price, MouldsP Manning      4200	HarrisonK Collins      4073	ToomerD Culpepper    3859	MossT Brady        3764	NONET Green        3690	NONEB Favre        3658	DriverA Brooks       3572	HornS McNair       3387	Mason2003:P Manning      4267	ManningT Green        4039	NONEM Bulger       3845	HoltM Hasselbeck   3844	JacksonB Johnson      3811	McCardellT Brady        3620	NONEJ Kitna        3591	JohnsonA Brooks       3546	NONED Culpepper    3479	MossT Maddox       3414	Ward2004:D Culpepper    4717	BurlesonT Green        4591	Kennison, GonzalezP Manning      4557	Harrison, Wayne, StokelyJ Plummer      4089	Smith, LelieB Favre        4088	Driver, WalkerM Bulger       3964	Bruce, HoltJ Delhomme     3886	MuhammadD McNabb       3875	T.O.A Brooks       3810	HornT Brady        3692	NONE2005:T Brady        4110	NONET Green        4014	KennisonB Favre        3881	DriverC Palmer       3836	JohnsonE Manning      3762	BurressK Collins      3759	MossP Manning      3747	Harrison, Wayne	D Bledsoe      3639	GlennD Brees        3576	GatesM Hasselbeck   3455	NONE
 

Tick

Footballguy
Part II is even more interesting:

Brady has ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in passing yards each year for the past 4 seasons.

He is the ONLY Top 10 QB without a single 1,000 receiver in EACH of those four seasons.

Check it out:

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2002:R Gannon       4689	RiceD Bledsoe      4359	Price, MouldsP Manning      4200	HarrisonK Collins      4073	ToomerD Culpepper    3859	MossT Brady        3764	NONET Green        3690	NONEB Favre        3658	DriverA Brooks       3572	HornS McNair       3387	Mason2003:P Manning      4267	ManningT Green        4039	NONEM Bulger       3845	HoltM Hasselbeck   3844	JacksonB Johnson      3811	McCardellT Brady        3620	NONEJ Kitna        3591	JohnsonA Brooks       3546	NONED Culpepper    3479	MossT Maddox       3414	Ward2004:D Culpepper    4717	BurlesonT Green        4591	Kennison, GonzalezP Manning      4557	Harrison, Wayne, StokelyJ Plummer      4089	Smith, LelieB Favre        4088	Driver, WalkerM Bulger       3964	Bruce, HoltJ Delhomme     3886	MuhammadD McNabb       3875	T.O.A Brooks       3810	HornT Brady        3692	NONE2005:T Brady        4110	NONET Green        4014	KennisonB Favre        3881	DriverC Palmer       3836	JohnsonE Manning      3762	BurressK Collins      3759	MossP Manning      3747	Harrison, Wayne	D Bledsoe      3639	GlennD Brees        3576	GatesM Hasselbeck   3455	NONE
Only three guys were on the list all four years, so it's not that amazing.
 

valhallan

Footballguy
Part II is even more interesting:

Brady has ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in passing yards each year for the past 4 seasons.

He is the ONLY Top 10 QB without a single 1,000 receiver in EACH of those four seasons.

Check it out:

Code:
2002:R Gannon       4689	RiceD Bledsoe      4359	Price, MouldsP Manning      4200	HarrisonK Collins      4073	ToomerD Culpepper    3859	MossT Brady        3764	NONET Green        3690	NONEB Favre        3658	DriverA Brooks       3572	HornS McNair       3387	Mason2003:P Manning      4267	ManningT Green        4039	NONEM Bulger       3845	HoltM Hasselbeck   3844	JacksonB Johnson      3811	McCardellT Brady        3620	NONEJ Kitna        3591	JohnsonA Brooks       3546	NONED Culpepper    3479	MossT Maddox       3414	Ward2004:D Culpepper    4717	BurlesonT Green        4591	Kennison, GonzalezP Manning      4557	Harrison, Wayne, StokelyJ Plummer      4089	Smith, LelieB Favre        4088	Driver, WalkerM Bulger       3964	Bruce, HoltJ Delhomme     3886	MuhammadD McNabb       3875	T.O.A Brooks       3810	HornT Brady        3692	NONE2005:T Brady        4110	NONET Green        4014	KennisonB Favre        3881	DriverC Palmer       3836	JohnsonE Manning      3762	BurressK Collins      3759	MossP Manning      3747	Harrison, Wayne	D Bledsoe      3639	GlennD Brees        3576	GatesM Hasselbeck   3455	NONE
Only three guys were on the list all four years, so it's not that amazing.
I'll tell ya what is amazing though - apparently Peyton Manning threw for 1,000 yards to himself in 2003!
 

Workhorse

Footballguy
Part II is even more interesting:

Brady has ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in passing yards each year for the past 4 seasons.

He is the ONLY Top 10 QB without a single 1,000 receiver in EACH of those four seasons.

Check it out:

2002:R Gannon       4689 RiceD Bledsoe      4359 Price, MouldsP Manning      4200 HarrisonK Collins      4073 ToomerD Culpepper    3859 MossT Brady        3764 NONET Green        3690 NONEB Favre        3658 DriverA Brooks       3572 HornS McNair       3387 Mason2003:P Manning      4267 ManningT Green        4039 NONEM Bulger       3845 HoltM Hasselbeck   3844 JacksonB Johnson      3811 McCardellT Brady        3620 NONEJ Kitna        3591 JohnsonA Brooks       3546 NONED Culpepper    3479 MossT Maddox       3414 Ward2004:D Culpepper    4717 BurlesonT Green        4591 Kennison, GonzalezP Manning      4557 Harrison, Wayne, StokelyJ Plummer      4089 Smith, LelieB Favre        4088 Driver, WalkerM Bulger       3964 Bruce, HoltJ Delhomme     3886 MuhammadD McNabb       3875 T.O.A Brooks       3810 HornT Brady        3692 NONE2005:T Brady        4110 NONET Green        4014 KennisonB Favre        3881 DriverC Palmer       3836 JohnsonE Manning      3762 BurressK Collins      3759 MossP Manning      3747 Harrison, Wayne D Bledsoe      3639 GlennD Brees        3576 GatesM Hasselbeck   3455 NONE
Only three guys were on the list all four years, so it's not that amazing.
I'll tell ya what is amazing though - apparently Peyton Manning threw for 1,000 yards to himself in 2003!
:wall: Stupid brain.

Obviously, that should be Harrison...

I do find it interesting that Brady has gone 4 straight years without a 1,000 yard receiver but has been a top 10 QB all 4 years.

 

Serenity Now

Footballguy
Little known from the last game: Branch went back into the game late for one more pass to break the 1000 mark. He did, but the play was called back on penalty. Oops.

 

redman

Footballguy
Those are interesting stats. For comparison (because Brady's compared so much to him anyway) check out Joe Montana's and his receivers' stats starting in 1981, through 1985.

 
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Workhorse

Footballguy
Those are interesting stats. For comparison (because Brady's compared so much to him anyway) check out Joe Montana's and his receivers' stats starting in 1981, through 1985.
Wow.Good stuff.

Now where is Belichick going to find a "Jerry Rice" for Brady?

:P

 

brobe4

Footballguy
I for one thought Brady was overrated,but I have seen the light this guy can do it all.This year he has carried this team on his back they would not have made the playoffs period if it was not for him.Brady is clearly getting better every year this scares the you know what out of me.Brady is a hall of famer with the top guys no doubt about it.Go Colts :popcorn:

 

yetiknight

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work. I had a hard time for the first month or so. I was trying to do it all myself. I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success. I also have figured out that I am not a born leader. I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees. For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.My point:I never thought Brady was better than Manning. I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor. Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other. The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team. I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.Now I understand. Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero. He simply steps up when his teammates need him. The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team. Peyton Manning carries that burden alone. This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts. It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages". I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.the yeti

 

Ghost Rider

Footballguy
I never thought Brady was better than Manning. I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor. Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other. The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team. I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand. Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero. He simply steps up when his teammates need him. The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team. Peyton Manning carries that burden alone. This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts. It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages". I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.
That is a great way to look at it. That deserves multiple :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting:
 

valhallan

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work. I had a hard time for the first month or so. I was trying to do it all myself. I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success. I also have figured out that I am not a born leader. I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees. For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.

My point:

I never thought Brady was better than Manning. I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor. Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other. The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team. I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand. Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero. He simply steps up when his teammates need him. The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team. Peyton Manning carries that burden alone. This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts. It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages". I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.

the yeti
That's a wonderful post, but you're absolutely insane if you think all Brady contributed to turning around a terrible team was "stepping up when his teammates need him." Those teammmates and coaches were 5-11 and 0-2 without Brady, and a dynasty with him. Stop marginalizing his impact on the team.
 

djcolts

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work.  I had a hard time for the first month or so.  I was trying to do it all myself.  I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success.  I also have figured out that I am not a born leader.  I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees.  For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.

My point:

I never thought Brady was better than Manning.  I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor.  Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other.  The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team.  I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand.  Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero.  He simply steps up when his teammates need him.  The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team.  Peyton Manning carries that burden alone.  This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts.  It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages".  I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.

the yeti
That's a wonderful post, but you're absolutely insane if you think all Brady contributed to turning around a terrible team was "stepping up when his teammates need him." Those teammmates and coaches were 5-11 and 0-2 without Brady, and a dynasty with him. Stop marginalizing his impact on the team.
I don't believe for one second that he was marginalizing Brady at all in this post. He was trying to make a point the best he can - and just because the wording wasn't perfect in your eyes doesn't mean he was insulting Brady in any way.
 

valhallan

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work.  I had a hard time for the first month or so.  I was trying to do it all myself.  I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success.  I also have figured out that I am not a born leader.  I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees.  For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.

My point:

I never thought Brady was better than Manning.  I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor.  Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other.  The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team.  I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand.  Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero.  He simply steps up when his teammates need him.  The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team.  Peyton Manning carries that burden alone.  This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts.  It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages".  I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.

the yeti
That's a wonderful post, but you're absolutely insane if you think all Brady contributed to turning around a terrible team was "stepping up when his teammates need him." Those teammmates and coaches were 5-11 and 0-2 without Brady, and a dynasty with him. Stop marginalizing his impact on the team.
I don't believe for one second that he was marginalizing Brady at all in this post. He was trying to make a point the best he can - and just because the wording wasn't perfect in your eyes doesn't mean he was insulting Brady in any way.
I'm just getting really tired of this "he has a great team" and he's just a "caretaker" stuff. And I'm not even a Pats fan. All he really has is a good coach - no top-flight receivers, barely top-flight RB, and a defense with no secondary and a couple good linebackers. That is a far cry from Montana had in SF.And Team Legacy, was "morons" really necessary?

Edit to add that the bolded part is what bugs me. I'd like him to expand on that.

 
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Mr.Happy

Footballguy
I think this stat shows just how hard Brady is to game plan for. He always throws to the open guy. And I mean that as an extreme. There are guys that throw to the open WR, or open RB, or open TE. Brady throws to all of them! As a coach, creating a defensive game plan to stop a guy who keeps throwing to the open guy, and who is very good at reading a defense, is a hard thing to do.

 

Koya

Footballguy
Even though no one got 1,000 yards, I hope everyone knows that D. Branch is worth a high draft pick.

 

yetiknight

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work.  I had a hard time for the first month or so.  I was trying to do it all myself.  I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success.  I also have figured out that I am not a born leader.  I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees.  For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.

My point:

I never thought Brady was better than Manning.  I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor.  Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other.  The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team.  I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand.  Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero.  He simply steps up when his teammates need him.  The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team.  Peyton Manning carries that burden alone.  This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts.  It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages".  I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.

the yeti
That's a wonderful post, but you're absolutely insane if you think all Brady contributed to turning around a terrible team was "stepping up when his teammates need him." Those teammmates and coaches were 5-11 and 0-2 without Brady, and a dynasty with him. Stop marginalizing his impact on the team.
I don't believe for one second that he was marginalizing Brady at all in this post. He was trying to make a point the best he can - and just because the wording wasn't perfect in your eyes doesn't mean he was insulting Brady in any way.
I'm just getting really tired of this "he has a great team" and he's just a "caretaker" stuff. And I'm not even a Pats fan. All he really has is a good coach - no top-flight receivers, barely top-flight RB, and a defense with no secondary and a couple good linebackers. That is a far cry from Montana had in SF.And Team Legacy, was "morons" really necessary?

Edit to add that the bolded part is what bugs me. I'd like him to expand on that.
I was trying to convey my realization of the unbelievable impact of Brady's leadership. The burden of winning is not on Brady's shoulders every single game. But in the most important games of his career, he has stepped up when needed. This year just proves that he is capable of stepping up and carrying his team through the regular season as well.However, he can't win every game in the playoffs that way. His defense must be great at some point. His running back(s) have to be great at some point. His wide receiver(s) must be great at some point. The thing about Brady is that he believes in those people. And they believe in him. Montana is the only player I can compare to Brady. Just like Marino to Manning, it fits.

Truthfully, he would have to look as bad as Manning has in the playoffs to prove that he isn't the better QB. Even it is a marginal difference between them. I have been swayed. There is no turning back now.

 

Bri

Footballguy
W Moon        1991   4690   hill, jeffriesW Moon        1990   4689   hill, jeffries
by 31 TOTAL yards he missed having 3 1000 yard WRs both of those years. Pretty awesome if ya ask me
 

Darth Cheney

Footballguy
Three months ago I was given a supervisor position at work.  I had a hard time for the first month or so.  I was trying to do it all myself.  I have slowly started to figure out that everybody I work with has to contribute for us(me) to be a success.  I also have figured out that I am not a born leader.  I still have much to learn about maximizing the skills of my employees.  For the record, I work on a construction crew, which requires a strong team effort for success.

My point:

I never thought Brady was better than Manning.  I always considered the advantages to be in Brady's favor.  Better defense, better coaches, and home field advantage in the games they played against each other.  The advantages weren't overwhelming, but enough to make me think Manning was a better quarterback on a lesser team.  I also thought the same way about Marino and Montana.

Now I understand.  Brady has never felt it was necessary to be the hero.  He simply steps up when his teammates need him.  The rest of the time he shares the burden with his team.  Peyton Manning carries that burden alone.  This is what makes them so much like Montana and Marino.

This year we have seen a role reversal of sorts.  It will be interesting to see them play each other in the playoffs when Manning has all of the "advantages".  I think this will go a long way in determining my opinion on who is really better.

the yeti
That's a wonderful post, but you're absolutely insane if you think all Brady contributed to turning around a terrible team was "stepping up when his teammates need him." Those teammmates and coaches were 5-11 and 0-2 without Brady, and a dynasty with him. Stop marginalizing his impact on the team.
Yeah how dare you disrepsect the Patriots, Brady or the region of New England. You better hope that none of the Patriots read this or it will be up on the board in the locker room.Seriously :goodposting:

 

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