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Tomlin names Redman Short Yardage Back (1 Viewer)
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NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
Don't see it as a tough break. Mendy has to carry this team on his back Finally getting an idea of where he is getting some help from. If you draft tonight I would be running with it hard to push the stock down of Mendy.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions here. I don't think we're seeing a Leroy Hoard situation here, where any time it's near the goalline, or it's 3rd and 2 or shorter, that Redman is an automatic sub. He's just the guy with the one wideout, big boy, goalline hammer set. He could poke in a half dozen, but he's not going to be taking any touches where Mendenhall was worth a crap last year anyway.
It does probably mean that if you were somebody who imagined Mendenhall with a ceiling of 16 TD's or something, you might want to revise down. But I don't think there were many of those out there.
I will say, however, that it's a nice thing to see as a Steeler fan. We knew it would be this way as soon as it became clear Redman was making the roster, since the Steelers were atrocious in SY situations, and Redman was a SY horse the last two preseasons.
It does probably mean that if you were somebody who imagined Mendenhall with a ceiling of 16 TD's or something, you might want to revise down. But I don't think there were many of those out there.
I will say, however, that it's a nice thing to see as a Steeler fan. We knew it would be this way as soon as it became clear Redman was making the roster, since the Steelers were atrocious in SY situations, and Redman was a SY horse the last two preseasons.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
FWIW, they've also made it clear they're going to run a number of 2 back sets where Redman is the "Pony back." Which is Bruce Arians-speak for "running fullback who can't block worth a damn." So Redman will see some FB dives in non-GL situations, too.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
No effect, there.Dwyer's role is to give a higher-upside option than Mewelde in case something tragic happens to Mendenhall. And/or to see what he develops into in the future if Mendenhall's contractual ideas get too big for his britches.
crnerblitz
Footballguy
This is just a ploy to motivate J. Dwyer
zamboni
Footballguy
Having stashed away Redman on my bench, I'd be interested in any homers' take as to (1) Redman's skill set beyond being a short-yardage hammer; and (2) what the RBBC situation would look like if Mendenhall gets hurt or falters badly.ETA: after the draft, Dwyer looked like the handcuff, but beyond a solid performance in the last preseason game, hasn't exactly been a coaching favorite
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grouse
Footballguy
I typically keep one roster spot open for a true RB-flier. After reading this news, I was almost tempted to drop Keiland Williams for Redman.
However, I'm going to hold off on that. Redman may vulture some scores but in the event that Mendy goes down I don't envision Redman carrying the load for the Steelers. If Portis/LJ get hurt or vastly underperform, Shanahan could easily give Keiland a shot to be an every-down back especially in lieu of how well he has done in all phases of the game. Keiland is still my flier, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
However, I'm going to hold off on that. Redman may vulture some scores but in the event that Mendy goes down I don't envision Redman carrying the load for the Steelers. If Portis/LJ get hurt or vastly underperform, Shanahan could easily give Keiland a shot to be an every-down back especially in lieu of how well he has done in all phases of the game. Keiland is still my flier, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
(1) Redman's skill set beyond that is a little difficult to determine, since Tomlin was very clearly using him for exactly this. Even when he came in and ran with the 1st teamers, it was primarily off tackle and power type, 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust type stuff.(2) Quite sure that would result in RBBC, with Mewelde Moore getting the starts, at least at first, but probably an unannounced "open competition" where any one of the other three would have his chance to stake a claim.
zamboni
Footballguy
Thanks.Moore filled in very well a few years ago filling in for FWP, but seemed to be totally forgotten last year when Mendenhall took over. I'm wondering if is a sign from team brass that he's not the dynamic threat he used to be.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
I think that was more of a sign that they spent a lot of money and a high round pick on their RB of the future in Mendenhall, and they were damn sure going to give him first crack when the time came.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I've not seen anything that would lead me to believe Moore won't be in there for some 3rd downs / other shotgun scenarios.
Hang 10
Footballguy
What ever helps you sleep at night.
timschochet
Footballguy
If they have goal line situations in the first few games, I would not be surprised to see Dixon carry the ball sometimes as well.
No need for a new topic, I had this pegged last year:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=485675
It's not a matter of me being a year early. It's a matter of Mike Tomlin being a year late.
None the less, the kid has heart and a knack for gaining tough yards. If Redman continues to perform as he has the last two preseasons and Dixon starts four games, Mendenhall will not be a top 15 running back this year.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=485675
It's not a matter of me being a year early. It's a matter of Mike Tomlin being a year late.
None the less, the kid has heart and a knack for gaining tough yards. If Redman continues to perform as he has the last two preseasons and Dixon starts four games, Mendenhall will not be a top 15 running back this year.
thehornet
Footballguy
are you serious> that's exactly what it means. they posters saying this doesnt negatively inpact mendenhall are lying to themselves.
Rick James
Footballguy
I'm really not worried about this at all. Will Redman take a few scores from Mendy? Yeah, I assume he will. But in the grand scheme of things, he's not taking away many carries. How often does a team get to 1st and Goal from the 3 or closer, anyway?
Just looking at Week 1 from last year...10 TD's from 1 yard2 TD's from 3 yards1 TD from 4 yards4 TDs from 5-10 yards4 TD's from 10+ yardsSo, over 1/2 of TD's from within the 3 yard line according to this sampling.
Velvet Revolver
Footballguy
Sorry dont have a link, but read that Dwyer might not even dress on game days-they would go with mendy-Redman and Moore....
That speculation aside - if mendy gets fumbleitis and if Redmen turns short yardage runs into long gains (opportunity) then Mendy's value takes a big hit.
I still believe when Big Ben comes back the Steelers will pass moret effectively than they run.
That speculation aside - if mendy gets fumbleitis and if Redmen turns short yardage runs into long gains (opportunity) then Mendy's value takes a big hit.
I still believe when Big Ben comes back the Steelers will pass moret effectively than they run.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Wow. This is awful news for mendy. His stock is falling hard with this news, just awful news.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
(TheHuddle) Steelers HC Mike Tomlin said RB Rashard Mendenhall will be the primary third-down back, according to Dale Lolley, of the Washington (Pa.) Observer-Reporter.
Analysis: Earlier on Tuesday, Tomlin told reporters that Mendenhall would cede short-yardage carries to RB Isaac Redman, so this third-down news is good to hear. It's hard to peg a handcuff for Mendenhall but if forced to choose we'd go with Redman over Mewelde Moore.
I wouldn't be worrying about Mendenhall too much.
Analysis: Earlier on Tuesday, Tomlin told reporters that Mendenhall would cede short-yardage carries to RB Isaac Redman, so this third-down news is good to hear. It's hard to peg a handcuff for Mendenhall but if forced to choose we'd go with Redman over Mewelde Moore.
I wouldn't be worrying about Mendenhall too much.
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identikit
Footballguy
Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said Thursday that Rashard Mendenhall will remain the goal-line back after all.
The report comes from ESPN 1250 Pittsburgh's Ken Laird, a reliable voice on Steelers matters in the past. Though coach Mike Tomlin indicated that Isaac Redman would receive an opportunity to nail down the short-yardage job, the Steelers may just be planning to use him on third- or fourth-and-short to save Mendehall's legs over the course of the game. Mendenhall remains a low-end RB1.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=4652
The report comes from ESPN 1250 Pittsburgh's Ken Laird, a reliable voice on Steelers matters in the past. Though coach Mike Tomlin indicated that Isaac Redman would receive an opportunity to nail down the short-yardage job, the Steelers may just be planning to use him on third- or fourth-and-short to save Mendehall's legs over the course of the game. Mendenhall remains a low-end RB1.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=4652
Whatever makes you think you know more than me."Arians: Mendenhall will be goal-line back Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said Thursday that Rashard Mendenhall will remain the goal-line back after all.The report comes from ESPN 1250 Pittsburgh's Ken Laird, a reliable voice on Steelers matters in the past. Though coach Mike Tomlin indicated that Isaac Redman would receive an opportunity to nail down the short-yardage job, the Steelers may just be planning to use him on third- or fourth-and-short to save Mendehall's legs over the course of the game. Mendenhall remains a low-end RB1. Sep. 9 - 3:28 pm et"
This is like most news outlets - the factual correction doesn't draw nearly as much attention as the misintepreted original story. Given the threads Tomlin's remarks originally generated, I think a bump is in order to make sure people see Arian's remarks.
