AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
Do you guys think Tony Sheffler can be a sleeper at tight end? He looked good in Denver's first preseason game.
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Tony Scheffler, DEN (1 Viewer)
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MLBrandow
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Yes.
add: Took him like TE40ish in Anarchy League 2 (obligated at least 2 TEs, 16 teams, some people took 3 TEs). I feel he'll obliterate the guys taken near him.
Worth a spot on a 1TE req team? Probably not. But he's a good candidate for a deep flier if you happened to wait too long to draft your TE. You can likely get him on the WW.
Dynasty Prospects: good.
add: Took him like TE40ish in Anarchy League 2 (obligated at least 2 TEs, 16 teams, some people took 3 TEs). I feel he'll obliterate the guys taken near him.
Worth a spot on a 1TE req team? Probably not. But he's a good candidate for a deep flier if you happened to wait too long to draft your TE. You can likely get him on the WW.
Dynasty Prospects: good.
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I just acquired him in a
McMichael and Stovall
for Burleson and Scheffler deal last week.
I like this kid a lot.
McMichael and Stovall
for Burleson and Scheffler deal last week.
I like this kid a lot.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Yes, he could be. Denver likes the two-TE set, and it is inevitable (IMO) that Stephen Alexander will not be "the answer" for the Broncos.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Keep in mind, he looked real good with Cutler, with whom he has been practicing. Dynasty,. he's a great sleepr candidate - when Cutler and he take over the starting spots, you could see Elway-Sharpe/Green-Gonzo type of synergy between them.
SaintArnold
Footballguy
I think (hope) he'll be great in the long run, but I don't see him putting up much better than Putzier numbers in his rookie season.
duaneok66
Footballguy
that blown block won't help him either . . .
cr8f
Footballguy
Nate Jackson could play too. Not bad for a bye week filer.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
or even as much - rookie TEs don't usually produce a ton in their first year. Especially non-highly touted ones.That said, Putz had a decent receiving year at 37 catches and 400+ yards - no TDs was th eproblem. And, outside of Shannon Sharpe's last year as a Bronco, Plummer has been a poor QB for TE TDs have been very few and far between. (7 in 2004 - and the Broncos' leading reception/yardage TE only caught two, only 2 TDs to TEs in 2005)Cutler might change that, but don't expect phenomenal numbers from a Plummer target TE.
Tibereas
Footballguy
A friend of mine is the head advertising executive for Fed Ex, she plays FF and her draft will be spotlighted on Fox Sports(all gals league), anyway she was just here in Denver for International golf tourney and met up w/some Bronco brass. They told her of all Broncos to draft this year, Scheffler is the one. She said they compared him to S.Sharpe. Granted this was a social meeting, but I believe, and no I'm not a Bronco fan.
AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
Scheffler had another solid game last night, with 70 some yards and a TD. Yet no one is tlaking about him.
Is he the starter in denver?
Is he the starter in denver?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Alexander is technically the starter but it appears Scheffler will see plenty of targets as Alexander is more of a blocking TE. The real question is how many targets is Scheffler going to get...and that is what nobody knows.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Hell yes, this guy is a buy and hold.
He should starting producing immediately.
He should starting producing immediately.
Dirty Weasel
Footballguy
An all girl FF league? The thought gives me a woodie!
teamramrod
Footballguy
Remeber that Alexander dropped a wide open TD pass on the Lions 4. You think that Mike Bell's fumble was bad..... I am putting it in my sig.... Sheffler will be the starter by the end of the year.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
....how about the beginning of the year ?
teamramrod
Footballguy
I would say TEBC for a while....till Alexander drops a few more balls.
DocNiner52
Footballguy
I just had a hunch about this kid more than a month ago when I was drafting in two dynasty leagues. I ended up with him in both and also got cutler in one league. I defintely like his dynasty future but not so much this year for redraft. He'll probably have his moments and a few good games. I do have him in a 3 keeper league as a bye week/spot fill-in for LJ Smith and Franks. I think he'll be doing great if he get 30/300/3. He's the 2nd best rookie TE behind my 49ers Davis. Whether he ends up as good as Shannon Sharpe remains to be seen but he'll have the chance to be as good as Sharpe was. The Broncos had a pretty good draft of players who could be real good in a few years. His situation in Denver has him set up to be a stud TE with only Alexander in his way, which shouldn't be too much for him to overcome.
pinequick
Footballguy
Ahhh, the dreaded TEBC!!I drafted Alexander his rookie year in my dynasty league. He is the ultimate tease--solid when healthy, but can never stay healthy. Based on what Scheffler has shown thus far, you should be very high on him in dynasty leagues, and better than lukewarm on him in redrafts--there's just no way in my mind that Alexander will stay un-dinged the whole season. Scheffler could very easily begin producing nice results this season.
cr8f
Footballguy
Where does Nate Jackson figure in?
Trey
Footballguy
Nate Jackson is only in his 2nd year as TE and he has been injured off and on during camp thus far from what I've heard. Scheffler has done nothing but impress. He also has much better measureables than Jackson making him a prime red zone target. This job could soon just be Scheffler's to lose (if it isn't already).
nygiants56
Footballguy
Denver loved Putzier so much last year, they matched the Jets offer and retained him..now he plays for Houston. Shanny knows QB's and RB's, but since Shannon Sharpe retired, Shanny has proven he doesn't know a thing about TE's other than to use a Committee approach...
Shef isn't going to record 80 catches, he will be luck to grab 40 balls this year..making him TE #25-30..
yawn.
Shef isn't going to record 80 catches, he will be luck to grab 40 balls this year..making him TE #25-30..
yawn.
pinequick
Footballguy
This is assuming an awful lot about redzone targets. If Scheffler can soak up some of those Kyle Johnson/Patrick Hape-type TDs, he might only get 40 catches this season--but maybe 6 or 8 TDs. Much better than TE #25-30, and great #'s for a rook.
I don't think it's a question of Plummer, I think it's a question of the offense. In Sharpe's last year, the offense used the TE as a focal point in the red zone and between the 20s. When Sharpe left, Denver was left without a TE with both blocking and receiving skills. As a result, Denver used a receiving TE (Putz) between the 20s and a blocking TE (Alexander) in the red zone- and as a result, neither TE was a fantasy worldbeater.With that said, there are red zone targets available. Last season there were only two TD passes to TEs, but there were another two TDs to guard Dwayne Carswell (a former TE who lined up as a tackle-eligible), as well as 5 TDs to fullback Kyle Johnson. Neither the Guard nor FB are ordinarily involved in Denver's redzone offense- they were only seeing duty thanks to the absence of a TE who could both block and receive. I credit those TDs towards the TE position when projecting, because I honestly believe if Denver had a dual-threat TE he would have gotten the lion's share of those 7 TDs.
I don't expect phenominal numbers from a Plummer target TE unless he has solid receiving skills (which Sheffler has) as well as solid blocking skills (which equals red-zone involvement, and is the big question mark with the rookie).
Alexander was technically the starter last year, too. It's because Shanny values blocking above all else. If Sheffler can improve his blocking, Alexander will be no obstacle- it's not like Alexander is a world-beater as a blocker. He's decidedly mediocre, which was an upgrade over the poor blocking of Putzier. If Scheffler is a moderately capable blocker, he'll become the starter. If he isn't, he'll still play the Putzier role and get all the targets between the 20s. Denver's offense relies heavily on its TE to move the ball, and the absence of a great dual-threat TE is one of the big reasons why Denver's red-zone efficiency has been so poor the last two years.
This is the truth. The big question remains whether Scheffler can pick up the blocking well enough to be used in the red zone.
I had a chance to draft him in MBSL3, but decided to pass him up. From what I'm hearing, he still has a way to go before Shanny will trust his blocking ability. Until then he won't see the field too often, even with a stiff like Alexander ahead of him.
cr8f
Footballguy
Two tigt ends sets. You have to get your best players on the field and he is WR #3 too.
WainiacS
Footballguy
I saw Sheffler play college ball here at Western Michigan University. (He and Greg Jennings were teammates, the GB rookie WR) Anyway, as was alluded to... His hands and head are not to be questioned; his mitts are like velcro. In the pro-game, you have to be able to block and block well. This will be the limiting factor determining his playing time. Regardless, I like him and believe he will catch 5-7 Td's in the Denver red-zone Offense.
GO BRONCO's... WMU Broncos that is
GO BRONCO's... WMU Broncos that is
I have actually heard very little about his blocking, but what I *HAVE* heard is that he has been a very willing blocker so far- and willingness to mix it up is one of the key componants of quality blocking. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to supplant Alexander in the red zone packages by the latter half of the season, although this is really speculation based on how bad Alexander is rather than how good Scheffler might be (because, as I said, I haven't really heard that much about his blocking).
Denver runs a lot of two-TE sets. Between the 20s, he usually uses his two best receiving TEs. In the red zone, he always uses his two best blocking TEs. As a result, if Scheffler can't block, he's not going to be getting many TDs (outside of the occassional long bomb).Two tigt ends sets. You have to get your best players on the field and he is WR #3 too.
Bob Henry
Footballguy
Spot on, SSOG. Putzier was never a red zone maven and that's why you see more of the Patrick Hape, Stephen Alexander and Dwayne Carswell touchdowns. Putzier was good for some solid receiving game - ie, 3-4 catches, 40 to 60 yards.. but he rarely caught TDs and I suspect that might befall Scheffler as well.That said, I'm rooting like crazy for Scheffler. I watched him play in high school against our local team that won 4 straight titles (Farmington Harrison) led by Drew Stanton (current MSU QB). Scheffler played for Chelsea HS. Scheffler has a lot of talent, especially as a receiver, but as SSOG says, it's all about the guys who can block when Shanny's team gets inside the 20. If Scheffler is willing AND able, he'll be VERY undervalued. If he struggled in that area, he'll be about where he's projected......and Alexander will catch 4-5 TDs despite only snaring 15-20 balls on the season.
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