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Top 10 NFL Players at QB RB WR TE? (1 Viewer)

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plenty of fantasy rankings, but how bout ranking players on overall ability. post your lists/thoughts

mine:

QB

1 peyton - just the best

2 brees - closing in on peyton, will probably top this list once peyton retires

3 rodgers - best young qb in the game, with great young offensive weapons

4 rivers - best of the 2nd tier QBs

5 schaub - finally getting the credit he deserves after a healthy season

6 roethlisberger - regardless of douchiness, still a great qb

7 brady - acl injury might have taken a few years off him, still puts up great numbers though

8 romo - great player, adding bryant to the picture could take him to the next level

9 favre - still has it, though ADP helps out quite a bit

10 mcnabb - never a huge fan of his as a passer, but wins games

RB

1 peterson - total gamechanger, almost solely responsible for favres career year

2 johnson - lets see what he can do this year with a bullseye on his chest

3 gore - always a top talent, never able to stay healthy

4 s jackson - see gore

5 deangelo - would be top fantasy back year in year out if he wasnt sharing backfield with stewart

6 jones drew - not as good as his stats would suggest, but still great

7 stewart - young gun, could very well be higher on this list come years end

8 rice - beneficiary of flacco's constant need to dump off to RB's

9 wells - will break out this year with more emphasis on run game

10 ronnie brown - see gore, sjax

WR

1 AJ - can do it all

2 fitzgerald - best hands in the business, but AJ slightly more explosive

3 wayne - great hands as well, not flashy but consistently gets the job done

4 marshall - could be number 1 on this list should he put his mind to it

5 calvin - HUGE potential, will see if it gets maximized

6 jennings - very underrated player, only thing he lacks is size

7 dez bryant - unbelievably talented player, lets see if he can put it to use in big d

8 moss - has lost a step

9 desean - explosive, but inconsistent

10 boldin - see gore, sjax

TE

1 gates - reliable, best receiving TE in the game

2 clark - very sly player, great chemistry with his QB

3 witten - very well rounded player, reliable hands

4 gonzalez - still a great player, but on the ### end of his career

5 big vern - great physical tools, just starting to put it all together

6 finley - huge receiving potential, would be higher on list if was a better blocker

7 daniels - was putting up big numbers last year before injury

8 winslow - big talent, small brain

9 olsen - great player, just couldnt put it together with cutler last year

10 z miller - being in oakland is only thing holding him back

 
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plenty of fantasy rankings, but how bout ranking players on overall ability. post your lists/thoughtsmine:QB1 peyton 2 brees3 rodgers4 rivers5 schaub6 roethlisberger7 brady8 favre9 mcnabb10 vince young (hate saying this, but the guy just wins games)RB1 peterson2 johnson3 gore4 s jackson5 deangelo 6 jones drew7 stewart8 rice9 wells10 ronnie brownWR1 AJ2 fitzgerald3 wayne4 marshall5 calvin6 jennings7 dez bryant8 moss9 desean10 boldinTE1 gates2 clark3 witten4 gonzalez5 big vern6 finley7 daniels8 winslow9 olsen10 z miller
Cutler doesn't make your top 10 QB talents in the league? You might want to re-think that.
 
Cutler doesn't make your top 10 QB talents in the league? You might want to re-think that.
flacco was closer than he was
So Cutler isn't even a top 11 QB talent in the league? Holy crap!
Forget Cutler, how does Romo not make it into the top 10?
Agreed. As far as pure talent goes, I'd put Romo and Cutler above Big Ben, VY and Favre (at his current age). Just my humble opinion. I guess....
 
Roethlisberger over Brady?

Vince Young? I thought this was about individual ability, not team.

Gore over DWill?

Wells has done nothing to be put on this list.

Dez? Hasn't played in an NFL game & you rank him above DJax?

I'm sure there are more, but these stood out.

 
QBs:

1a. Brady

1b. Manning

3. Brees

4. Stafford

5. Rivers

6. Rogers

7. Palmer

8. Roethlisberger

9. Flacco

10. Cutler

 
QBs:1a. Brady1b. Manning3. Brees4. Stafford5. Rivers6. Rogers7. Palmer8. Roethlisberger9. Flacco10. Cutler
I think Stafford has a bright future too, but his own momma wouldn't rank him above Rivers.Flacco is not top 15, much less 10.
 
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QBs:1a. Brady1b. Manning3. Brees4. Stafford5. Rivers6. Rogers7. Palmer8. Roethlisberger9. Flacco10. Cutler
I think Stafford has a bright future too, but his own momma wouldn't rank him above Rivers.Flacco is not top 15, much less 10.
Well, it's my list so I'll rank them where I want too. :mellow: Stafford is a franchise QB and that will show through over the next 3 years or so. I'd like to think I'm simply ahead of the curve on this one. Flacco not top 15? Really you don't think he is even in the top half of the leagues starters? Flacco has never had anything worth while to throw to as far as weapons and I think that is clouding a lot of peoples judgment on him. As a Steeler fan I hate admitting it, but Flacco is a great QB. He is easily in the top 15 (seriously, name 16 other guys you'd rather have starting for your team) and IMO he is in the top 10.
 
I'd say just based on talent, my top-10's look like this:

QB

1. Aaron Rodgers, is just as good a passer as anyone else and is far more mobile. Reminds me of Steve Young at times.

2. Drew Brees, its not just the system, he's the most accurate passer in the NFL and could easily be ranked #1.

3. Peyton Manning, feels wrong not to have him 1st, but he just doesn't have Brees' accuracy or Rodgers athleticism.

4. Philip Rivers, Doesn't get enough credit, as good as Brees is, San Diego doesn't really miss him.

5. Matt Schaub, painfully underrated, constantly among league leaders in YPA and completion %.

6. Ben Roethlisberger, still makes way too many boneheaded plays for my liking, but he's a playmaker with elite talent.

7. Tony Romo, just has the knack, I'm not convinced his low INT's aren't a fluke, if they aren't he's ahead of Schaub.

8. Tom Brady, I'm among the group that thinks Brady is declining, or at least isn't the same post ACL. Still great though.

9. Matt Ryan, good arm, makes good decisions and seems to be only scratching the surface of his upside.

10. Joe Flacco, maybe the strongest arm in the NFL(among guys who don't suck at least) has underrated mobilty too.

Just missed: Cutler, makes too many mistakes and has shown signs that will change.

RB

1. Chris Johnson, simply unbelieveable. He's not a one trick pony either, he's still developing and I don't think he's peaked.

2. Maurice Jones-Drew, he's got no weakness. He's among the best at everything a RB needs to do.

3. Jonathan Stewart, I'm a believer. He's like a young Jamal Lewis with more power and lateral agality.

4. Adrian Peterson, I'm very worried about the fumbles and while I believe he's as talented as anyone else that flaw hurts.

5. Steven Jackson, if he played for anyone else he'd be a lot more appreciated. Hopefully his back injury isn't a sign.

6. Ray Rice, the fact that's he's 6th tells you how talented the top-5 guys are. He's basically 90% of MJD in my opinion.

7. DeAngelo Williams, part of me wishes Carolina had gotten Vick and ran some sort of wishbone to feature both RBs.

8. Frank Gore, another guy who deos everything well, he and Rice are similar, but Rice's hands win out.

9. Felix Jones, supreme playmaker, only durablity questions and passing game questions keep him from the 6th spot.

10.Beanie Wells, he's another guy who worries me with fumbles, but he's the highest upsided 2-down back in the league.

Just missed: Jamaal Charles, big time playmaker. Not sure he's a fulltime guy but very little seperates him and Felix.

WR

1. Calvin Johnson, we all know how talented he is physically, but he's underrated on the technical side of things.

2. Larry Fitzgerald, I think he had a lot to do with Warner's rebirth and will be good enough to make Leinart look solid.

3. Andre Johnson, does it all, though his inferior redzone skills keep him out of the top spot.

4. DeSean Jackson, way too many people think he's a fluke. He's closer to Marvin Harrison than Santana Moss in my eyes.

5. Randy Moss, he's being written off too soon, I think he'll last longer than people think due to his size and jump ball skills.

6. Percy Harvin, the Stewart of WR's. He's a monster who will prove it as soon as more chances come, likely this season.

7. Steve Smith, still arguable the best deep threat in the NFL. Looks primed for a bounceback now that Delhomme is gone.

8. Vincent Jackson, great size and big play ability. My one concern is that he isn't special in the open field.

9. Miles Austin, I could see him being higher, Austin is a stud, but 2009 may be his peak and I think Romo deserves credit.

10.Brandon Marshall, great after the catch and has great size, but isn't particularly fast and drops a lot of balls.

Just missed: Reggie Wayne, doesn't have great size or speed, but something is to be said for a guy who just gets open.

TE

1. Antonio Gates, he's still the best. Great hands, and still tough after the catch. Seems like his blocking has improved too.

2. Vernon Davis, if he had better hands he'd be #1. I think 2009 is just the beginning for him and he's a good blocker too.

3. Jermichael Finley, doesn't have Davis' speed, but he's no slouch there. Blocking is his only weakness.

4. Jason Witten, if he were 2 steps faster he'd be #1. But he's not much in the open field and while great, isn't a playmaker.

5. Dallas Clark, he's got good hands and underrated quickness, but his lack of blocking ability keeps him behind Witten.

6. Brent Celek, he actually reminds me quite a bit of Clark only with a little less quickness. Great hands.

7. Kellen Winslow, if he didn't hurt his knees I think he'd be #1 , he's the best route runner at TE in my eyes.

8. Owen Daniels, him and Celek are pretty much the same guy to me. Hopefully the knee will be ok.

9. Zach Miller, very talented, but I think he's gets a little overrated at times just by being good on a lousy team.

10.Chris Cooley, all he does is get open. He's a B-plus guy across the board as a receiver. Blocking could be better though.

Just missed: Greg Olsen, great physical talent who just hasn't had it translate completely yet, I don't imagine Martz will help.

 
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Cutler doesn't make your top 10 QB talents in the league? You might want to re-think that.
flacco was closer than he was
So Cutler isn't even a top 11 QB talent in the league? Holy crap!
Forget Cutler, how does Romo not make it into the top 10?
Agreed. As far as pure talent goes, I'd put Romo and Cutler above Big Ben, VY and Favre (at his current age). Just my humble opinion. I guess....
What is "pure talent?"Because VY and Ben blow Romo away when it comes to athletic ability at the QB position. And Ben blows Romo away in pretty much everything outside of wheels. So I'd be interested in your angle here.
 
I'd say just based on talent, my top-10's look like this:QB1. Aaron Rodgers, is just as good a passer as anyone else and is far more mobile. Reminds me of Steve Young at times.2. Drew Brees, its not just the system, he's the most accurate passer in the NFL and could easily be ranked #1.3. Peyton Manning, feels wrong not to have him 1st, but he just doesn't have Brees' accuracy or Rodgers athleticism.4. Philip Rivers, Doesn't get enough credit, as good as Brees is, San Diego doesn't really miss him.5. Matt Schaub, painfully underrated, constantly among league leaders in YPA and completion %.6. Ben Roethlisberger, still makes way too many boneheaded plays for my liking, but he's a playmaker with elite talent.7. Tony Romo, just has the knack, I'm not convinced his low INT's aren't a fluke, if they aren't he's ahead of Schaub.8. Tom Brady, I'm among the group that thinks Brady is declining, or at least isn't the same post ACL. Still great though.9. Matt Ryan, good arm, makes good decisions and seems to be only scratching the surface of his upside.10. Joe Flacco, maybe the strongest arm in the NFL(among guys who don't suck at least) has underrated mobilty too.Just missed: Cutler, makes too many mistakes and has shown signs that will change.RB1. Chris Johnson, simply unbelieveable. He's not a one trick pony either, he's still developing and I don't think he's peaked.2. Maurice Jones-Drew, he's got no weakness. He's among the best at everything a RB needs to do.3. Jonathan Stewart, I'm a believer. He's like a young Jamal Lewis with more power and lateral agality.4. Adrian Peterson, I'm very worried about the fumbles and while I believe he's as talented as anyone else that flaw hurts.5. Steven Jackson, if he played for anyone else he'd be a lot more appreciated. Hopefully his back injury isn't a sign.6. Ray Rice, the fact that's he's 6th tells you how talented the top-5 guys are. He's basically 90% of MJD in my opinion.7. DeAngelo Williams, part of me wishes Carolina had gotten Vick and ran some sort of wishbone to feature both RBs.8. Frank Gore, another guy who deos everything well, he and Rice are similar, but Rice's hands win out.9. Felix Jones, supreme playmaker, only durablity questions and passing game questions keep him from the 6th spot.10.Beanie Wells, he's another guy who worries me with fumbles, but he's the highest upsided 2-down back in the league.Just missed: Jamaal Charles, big time playmaker. Not sure he's a fulltime guy but very little seperates him and Felix.WR1. Calvin Johnson, we all know how talented he is physically, but he's underrated on the technical side of things.2. Larry Fitzgerald, I think he had a lot to do with Warner's rebirth and will be good enough to make Leinart look solid.3. Andre Johnson, does it all, though his inferior redzone skills keep him out of the top spot.4. DeSean Jackson, way too many people think he's a fluke. He's closer to Marvin Harrison than Santana Moss in my eyes.5. Randy Moss, he's being written off too soon, I think he'll last longer than people think due to his size and jump ball skills.6. Percy Harvin, the Stewart of WR's. He's a monster who will prove it as soon as more chances come, likely this season.7. Steve Smith, still arguable the best deep threat in the NFL. Looks primed for a bounceback now that Delhomme is gone.8. Vincent Jackson, great size and big play ability. My one concern is that he isn't special in the open field.9. Miles Austin, I could see him being higher, Austin is a stud, but 2009 may be his peak and I think Romo deserves credit.10.Brandon Marshall, great after the catch and has great size, but isn't particularly fast and drops a lot of balls.Just missed: Reggie Wayne, doesn't have great size or speed, but something is to be said for a guy who just gets open.TE1. Antonio Gates, he's still the best. Great hands, and still tough after the catch. Seems like his blocking has improved too.2. Vernon Davis, if he had better hands he'd be #1. I think 2009 is just the beginning for him and he's a good blocker too. 3. Jermichael Finley, doesn't have Davis' speed, but he's no slouch there. Blocking is his only weakness.4. Jason Witten, if he were 2 steps faster he'd be #1. But he's not much in the open field and while great, isn't a playmaker.5. Dallas Clark, he's got good hands and underrated quickness, but his lack of blocking ability keeps him behind Witten.6. Brent Celek, he actually reminds me quite a bit of Clark only with a little less quickness. Great hands.7. Kellen Winslow, if he didn't hurt his knees I think he'd be #1 , he's the best route runner at TE in my eyes. 8. Owen Daniels, him and Celek are pretty much the same guy to me. Hopefully the knee will be ok.9. Zach Miller, very talented, but I think he's gets a little overrated at times just by being good on a lousy team.10.Chris Cooley, all he does is get open. He's a B-plus guy across the board as a receiver. Blocking could be better though.Just missed: Greg Olsen, great physical talent who just hasn't had it translate completely yet, I don't imagine Martz will help.
100% awesome list
 
Because VY and Ben blow Romo away when it comes to athletic ability at the QB position. And Ben blows Romo away in pretty much everything outside of wheels. So I'd be interested in your angle here.
Plug Romo into the Pitt system and they are actually probably a better team.When Pitt's D is mediocre, their team is mediocre. Ben does a few nice things, but he isn't the catalyst a Drew Brees or Peyton Manning is.I do think the most underrated QB is Aaron Rogers. He does remind one of Steve Young, but with a better arm.If I were to start a team right now I'd want Rogers as my QB. I'd want Chris Johnson as my RB. I'd want AJ as my #1 WR.Those are my top talents today. As far as my top 10 QB Talents:1. Aaron Rogers - Amazing talent, and still getting better.2. Peyton Manning - Still arguably the best in the NFL.3. Drew Brees - Does everything well. Not a huge gap in the top 4. 4. Tom Brady - Still amazing accuracy, but can't carry his team.5. Philip Rivers - Needs to be less streaky. 6. Tony Romo - Like Rogers, without the arm. A few more bad decisions7. Donovan McNabb - Still a top 10 QB. When he's hot, he's still scary.8. Jay Cutler - Amazing skillset. Occasional Brainfarts hurt him.9. Ben Roethlisberger - Great talent still.10. Brett Favre - Still has an amazing arm, and has gotten more patient.
 
flacco was closer than he was
So Cutler isn't even a top 11 QB talent in the league? Holy crap!
Forget Cutler, how does Romo not make it into the top 10?
Agreed. As far as pure talent goes, I'd put Romo and Cutler above Big Ben, VY and Favre (at his current age). Just my humble opinion. I guess....
What is "pure talent?"Because VY and Ben blow Romo away when it comes to athletic ability at the QB position. And Ben blows Romo away in pretty much everything outside of wheels. So I'd be interested in your angle here.
Romo and Ben are very close, but I' give ben the nod because ive seen what he can do in clutch situations. (game winning drive against my packers late last season) Both are very accurate, and for some reason, people forget how great of a season Ben had last year. Sure romo had the better TD/INT, but ben put up some pretty wacky comp% and YPA combined with a very solid TD/INT. neither player "blows away" the other here, but i go ben because of his uncanny ability to keep drives going.
 

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