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Top Defensive Teams in '06 (1 Viewer)

NOSRAC247

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I know a lot of teams have heavily upgraded their defense, and many teams have downgraded. Going into 2006 season, who are your top 10 defensive teams? I've been trying to evaluate, but I'd like to get some user opinion. Thanks

 
I don't know about fantasy... but in the NFL it'll be

1. Chicago

2. Pittsburgh

3. Seattle

4. Carolina

5. Atlanta

 
I don't know about fantasy... but in the NFL it'll be

1. Chicago

2. Pittsburgh

3. Seattle

4. Carolina

5. Atlanta
For a defense that hasn't been top 5 since 1986, I don't see how you can be deluding yourself about a couple big name offseason moves. Defense isn't Offense. You can't just sign a few blue chip players and expect the unit to be unstoppable the very next season. Ask Washington homers how that worked out for them.No, they won't be close to that.... top 15, maybe.

I think the real sleeper here for the top 5 might be the Bengals...

Also, how did you manage to leave Tampa a defensive list?
Look at how the Seahawks defense performed in the playoffs and get back to me. They flat out dominated. There's no reason to think that they won't be among the leagues best defenses this season. The Seahawks are young, fast, and talented on defense. They added Julian Peterson to the mix, got Hamlin back from injury, and filled all of their needs in the draft . And having a one of the league's premiere offenses keeping them off the field certainly doesn't hurt.

My top 5 looks like this:

1- Chicago

2- Washington

3- Tampa

4- Seattle

5- Pittsburgh

 
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I didn't put Tampa in there because I'm going out on a limb and predicting that this is the year that their star players on D start showing their age. They'll still be good, but they'll be a top 10 D....not top 5.

 
1carolina

2pit

3dallas

4phil

5chic

6ne

7balt

8sea

9wash

10mia
Bucs not in the top 10? Bucs have been 5th, 5th, 1st the last 3 years. No way they slip out of the top 10.
Bucs haven't been out of the top-10 since 1996.Picking them out of the top-10 is not EV.

 
Top 10 NFL Defenses

1) Pittsburgh

2) Chicago

3) Tampa Bay

4) Seattle

5) Panthers

6) Cardinals

7) New England

8) Raven

9) Denver

10) San Diego

That'll be the top 10

 
Right now I'd go with:

1) Chicago

2) Pitt

3) Tampa Bay

4) Carolina

5) New England

6) Denver

7) Seattle

8) Baltimore

9) Miami

10) NYG

But things can change, obviously between now and opening day...

 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.

 
If you want a sleeper defense, while I know I'll take heat for this, watch out for the Chiefs. Not top 5, but I can see them creeping into the top 10.

 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
:goodposting:

 
What are everyone's thoughts on the Colts? In my league last season they were the #2 defense. Did they lose some people?

 
i think tampa bay is a really wild card team. If their defense stays just as good and defies age, and if their young offense with Clayton, Simms, and Cadillac steps up, they could be a top seed in the NFC and have a Superbowl run. On the other hand, if their defense shows age, and their offense doesn't step it up enough, they could be looking at a 6-10 season.

 
Not in any particular order but this is what I think:

1. Giants (added Sam Madison and Lavar...good gracious)

2. Pittsburgh (lost Kim and Hope but should be ok, always are)

3. Ravens ( Ed Reed healthy and Ray has his big NT)

4. Cowboys (No deeper secondary and LB corps in the league than this squad)

5. Colts (why are people sleeping on them? They show and proved last year)

 
The Jaguars are about as interesting as a bingo game at a home for the elderly.
I assume you're just talking defense, but even so, what's your point?Interesting and quality are not the same.

 
The Jaguars are about as interesting as a bingo game at a home for the elderly.
I assume you're just talking defense, but even so, what's your point?Interesting and quality are not the same.
Oh, don't pay attention to that. I just went out of my way to try to find a Jags fan to rip on me for saying that :D I just meant that I personally find the Jaguars to be a very uninteresting team

 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
So you're not worried about a 34-yr old Sam Madison, Corey Webster, and RW McQuarters at CB?
 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
So you're not worried about a 34-yr old Sam Madison, Corey Webster, and RW McQuarters at CB?
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then? G-men can also send Lavar and their rook DE they've been trying at "rushbacker" and.....eventually it's gonna affect the opposing O as some key receiver has to stay in and block. If not, the above players will only have to cover for a very short time
 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
So you're not worried about a 34-yr old Sam Madison, Corey Webster, and RW McQuarters at CB?
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then? G-men can also send Lavar and their rook DE they've been trying at "rushbacker" and.....eventually it's gonna affect the opposing O as some key receiver has to stay in and block. If not, the above players will only have to cover for a very short time
The key statement was FANTASY, which they very well may be. They'll give up some big plays, but also get sacks and INTs, which in the leagues where I use Def teams, counts for more than a shut out. Although, maybe they shouldn't?
 
I'm surprised that the Packers aren't being discussed when you talk about the better defensive teams in the league this year. Now, I'll admit I'm a homer on this, in case you couldn't tell by my user ID, but I still think that an objective look at some key facts here would certainly be enough to make an open-minded person wonder if maybe the Packers wouldn't be one of the better defensive teams this year. To wit:

:D They were the 9th most difficult defense in the league to drive the ball on in 2005.

:D They were 7th in total defense last year.

:D They were 9th in 3rd down conversion percentage.

Now, this was accomplished despite being average against the run (4.0 yds/rush) and one of the worst in the league in takeaways (7th worst with 21). AND they'd had three different defensive schemes in three years.

So....they weren't that bad last year despite being repeatedly put on a shortfield by a league leading 45 turnovers (thank you, Brett). AND they're operating under the same defensive scheme as last year for the first time in four years....despite having a new defensive coordinator.

But they should be better this year because they've added quite a bit of talent.

:D Gone is the overweight and out of shape Grady Jackson (who played about 30% of the snaps and he's been replaced by Ryan Pickett.

:D The Packers drafted AJ Hawk and Abdul Hodge at linebacker, instantly upgrading that unit. They also added Cleveland starter Ben Taylor in free agency.

:D They added Charles Woodson and Marquand Manuel to the secondary, along with rookie draft choice Will Blackmon.

So, I think the case can be made that a year of stability in the scheme, the development of some of their young players, the addition of bonafide studs like Hawk.......all will contribute to improving a defense that was already pretty decent in many respects.

With a little better balance in the turnover margin (-24 last year), this defense should rank in the NFL's top ten by most of the important statistical measures this year.

 
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The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
So you're not worried about a 34-yr old Sam Madison, Corey Webster, and RW McQuarters at CB?
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then? G-men can also send Lavar and their rook DE they've been trying at "rushbacker" and.....eventually it's gonna affect the opposing O as some key receiver has to stay in and block. If not, the above players will only have to cover for a very short time
:thumbup: Correct Bri. Everyteam has to "worry" about percieved weaknesses on Offense and Defense,if the Giants percieved weakness on D includes Sam Madison I think they're in pretty good shape. I think The Giants D from a fantasy AND reality standpoint can match up with ANY D in the NFL.

 
I'm surprised that the Packers aren't being discussed when you talk about the better defensive teams in the league this year. Now, I'll admit I'm a homer on this, in case you couldn't tell by my user ID, but I still think that an objective look at some key facts here would certainly be enough to make an open-minded person wonder if maybe the Packers wouldn't be one of the better defensive teams this year. To wit:

:D They were the 9th most difficult defense in the league to drive the ball on in 2005.

:D They were 7th in total defense last year.

:D They were 9th in 3rd down conversion percentage.

Now, this was accomplished despite being average against the run (4.0 yds/rush) and one of the worst in the league in takeaways (7th worst with 21). AND they'd had three different defensive schemes in three years.

So....they weren't that bad last year despite being repeatedly put on a shortfield by a league leading 45 turnovers (thank you, Brett). AND they're operating under the same defensive scheme as last year for the first time in four years....despite having a new defensive coordinator.

But they should be better this year because they've added quite a bit of talent.

:D Gone is the overweight and out of shape Grady Jackson (who played about 30% of the snaps and he's been replaced by Ryan Pickett.

:D The Packers drafted AJ Hawk and Abdul Hodge at linebacker, instantly upgrading that unit. They also added Cleveland starter Ben Taylor in free agency.

:D They added Charles Woodson and Marquand Manuel to the secondary, along with rookie draft choice Will Blackmon.

So, I think the case can be made that a year of stability in the scheme, the development of some of their young players, the addition of bonafide studs like Hawk.......all will contribute to improving a defense that was already pretty decent in many respects.

With a little better balance in the turnover margin (-24 last year), this defense should rank in the NFL's top ten by most of the important statistical measures this year.
i'm wondering if GB benefited from some heinous offensive play in NFC north last season... not sure about MIN, but i would expect CHI & DET to be better this season... though the addition of hawk could help offset that (unclear how much hodge will play & what his role will be... some scouts thaought he was top MLB/ILB in draft, ahead of d'qwell jackson, though i thought he was second best)... woodson should be an upgrade, too, though imo he has been overrated for a few years...
 
I don't know how much you can put on the NFC North thing......that's only six games out of 16. It's not like the old days when half your schedule was within your division.

The Packers did a prettty good job against the Bengals, in Cincinnati, despite having Hero Boy throw 5 interceptions that day. That was probably the best offensive team they faced last year. They held the best rushing team in the league, Atlanta, in check.

As a guy who watched every one of their games, and studied the film on quite a few of them, I'd say an honest assessment of them is that they were probably in the top half of the league defensively. They could really have benefitted from having an offense that took better care of the ball and put more pressure on the opponent. Teams just stuck with the run the whole game because the Packers couldn't put any offensive pressure on them to make them change and you started to see them wearing down later in the games.

If everybody stays healthy, the Packer defense is going to be pretty good this year. I think you can take that to the bank.

 
The New York Giants will be the top FANTASY defense this season. Osi and Strahan will lead a unit that will be at or near the top of the league in sacks. Wilson and Demps are 2 hard hitting DB's that with the pressure up front will help create mucho turnovers. Arrington will add to the mayham. If you combine your special teams with your D the G-Men have 3 kick returners who are or could be game breakers. You want the ingrediants for a top FANTASY defense,the Giants have it all in 2006.
So you're not worried about a 34-yr old Sam Madison, Corey Webster, and RW McQuarters at CB?
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then? G-men can also send Lavar and their rook DE they've been trying at "rushbacker" and.....eventually it's gonna affect the opposing O as some key receiver has to stay in and block. If not, the above players will only have to cover for a very short time
:thumbup: Correct Bri. Everyteam has to "worry" about percieved weaknesses on Offense and Defense,if the Giants percieved weakness on D includes Sam Madison I think they're in pretty good shape. I think The Giants D from a fantasy AND reality standpoint can match up with ANY D in the NFL.
Its going to come down to how quickly the giants secondary meshes together. Gibril Wilson is a stud, hopefully the rest of the secondary can learn to play together and stay healthy.. The fact is that they have the worst starting DT's in the league, but have the best pairing of DE's.. LB's are above average, depending which arrington shows up to play..

As long as the Giants defense stays healthy, they should be very good. They have basically no depth though. Kiwi at DE is about the only quality backup they have and he's a rook..

 
How anyone can make a list like this and not put Chicago at the top is beyond me.

They bring back virtually everyone, add a coupla talented rookie corners to push the vets, and play the easiest schedule in the league on paper.

Not to mention playing in the O-challenged NFC North (as my good friend and lifelong adversary PackerNation mentioned earlier) for 6 games a year.

Grab 'em while you can. I saw the potential last year and picked them up in late rounds. They were a HUGE part of me winning a championship.

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB, and that was with the likes of a gimpy Laveraneous Coles, Rod Garder, Darnerian McCants, and James Thrash running around. His o-line is now going to be together for the 3rd year in a row and is a solid line all around, and they've now upgraded at the WR position. While Saunders' arrival promises to open things up, they won't sacrifice the safety of the QB to do it. Of the three divisional opponents that the Giants will face, the 'Skins are probably best suited to face the challenges the Giants will have to offer given the combination of their good line (which Dallas lacks) and the number of good receiving targets (which is Philly's weakness once again).

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
 
I don't know about fantasy... but in the NFL it'll be

1. Chicago

2. Pittsburgh

3. Seattle

4. Carolina

5. Atlanta
I'd probably move ATL above CAR due to ATL's glut at the LB and D-line positions. CAR has an elderly D-line and question marks at some of their LB spots. ATL also has a young and improving secondary.
 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB, and that was with the likes of a gimpy Laveraneous Coles, Rod Garder, Darnerian McCants, and James Thrash running around. His o-line is now going to be together for the 3rd year in a row and is a solid line all around, and they've now upgraded at the WR position. While Saunders' arrival promises to open things up, they won't sacrifice the safety of the QB to do it. Of the three divisional opponents that the Giants will face, the 'Skins are probably best suited to face the challenges the Giants will have to offer given the combination of their good line (which Dallas lacks) and the number of good receiving targets (which is Philly's weakness once again).
I think Cooley's receptions are important to the Skins and if he has to stay in "all game" to block they'll have a hard time beating the Giants. With Royal gone to Buf, who helps block in two TE sets so Cooley can "go out"?

IIRC They're deep at FB and not so much at TE with good blockers.

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
I have much respect for Gibbs I just have a hard time seeing their passing O working so well with Cooley staying in(IF). It seems ya can't run 3 WR+enough blockers and still be at 11 so I think it'd be easier for them to get Cooley freed up but am not exactly sure how.

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
I have much respect for Gibbs I just have a hard time seeing their passing O working so well with Cooley staying in(IF). It seems ya can't run 3 WR+enough blockers and still be at 11 so I think it'd be easier for them to get Cooley freed up but am not exactly sure how.
How often do we see Gibbs run 3 WR?Answer...not much.

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
I have much respect for Gibbs I just have a hard time seeing their passing O working so well with Cooley staying in(IF). It seems ya can't run 3 WR+enough blockers and still be at 11 so I think it'd be easier for them to get Cooley freed up but am not exactly sure how.
How often did we see Gibbs run 3 WR?Answer...not much.
fixedwait until this season and you will see it plenty. Back to the old Monk/Clark/Sanders days :thumbup:

 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
I have much respect for Gibbs I just have a hard time seeing their passing O working so well with Cooley staying in(IF). It seems ya can't run 3 WR+enough blockers and still be at 11 so I think it'd be easier for them to get Cooley freed up but am not exactly sure how.
How often do we see Gibbs run 3 WR?Answer...not much.
It was Gibbs' bread n butter in the 80s. They now have 3 capable WRs. I think it'd be foolish to not think he'll use that.
 
putting pressure on the Qb is the key to any coverage. The Skins and Dallas passing O cannot afford to keep the TE in to block. How will they counter then?
What? Gibbs the last two years has repeatedly sacrificed receivers running routes to provide protection for the QB
Yeah, Gibbs all about protecting his QB. He'll almost always go max protect. Gone are the Spurrier days, where Skins QB's were sitting ducks.
I have much respect for Gibbs I just have a hard time seeing their passing O working so well with Cooley staying in(IF). It seems ya can't run 3 WR+enough blockers and still be at 11 so I think it'd be easier for them to get Cooley freed up but am not exactly sure how.
How often do we see Gibbs run 3 WR?Answer...not much.
It was Gibbs' bread n butter in the 80s. They now have 3 capable WRs. I think it'd be foolish to not think he'll use that.
Don't forget who is the OC now. Didn't Saunders pretty much go with 2 Wides in KC? Plus Gibbs is still gonna demand max protect for his QB.No doubt we will see 3 Wides at times, but I'd imagine the 2 Wides will still be the staple.

Anyway enough of this :hijacked: .

Sorry to all the guys coming in here to read about D teams and we get into a discussion on the Skins O.

 
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Still gotta love the Bears as the #1 overall fantasy D this year....

On top of the fact they return almost the entire D intact......their special teams have a chance to be absolutely deadly this year with the addition of rookie Devin Hester.

Simply put....Devin Hester will be one of the top return men in the NFL right out of the gate. Tremendous speed and he's just got the "gift" for open field running. He's a highlight reel waiting to happen on every opportunity and is equally deadly on both punt and kick returns. His last year at Miami most teams just stopped kicking to him altogether which really limited his numbers. He'll do even better in the pros due to the fact he'll get more viable opportunities to return.

 

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