Top Ten Mobile QBs of all time (Vick is NOT number 1) (1 Viewer)

[pjconley]

Top Ten Mobile QBs (Vick is NOT number1)

NFL.com has added tons of new features, including lots of video. They put together a top 10 list of the greatest mobile Quarterbacks of all time. I went ahead and added some more stats under the links, so enjoy. (The video highlights are incredible.)

10) Donovan McNabb (Philadelphia Eagles 1999-present)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f96bd

College: Syracuse University (1st overall to Eagles)

Passing Stats- 58.7% completed/ 171 TDs/ 79 ints

Rushing Stats- 6 yards a carry/ 2962 Yards/ 24TDs

9) Doug Flutie ( LA Rams, Chicago, New England, Buffalo, San Diego1985-2005)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9799

College: Boston (11th round to Rams)

Passing Stats- 54.7% completed/ 86TD/ 68 Tds

Rushing Stats- 4.8 yards a carry/1634 yards/ 10 TDs

8) Jim Zorn (Seattle Seahawks 1976-1984, GB Packers 1985, TB Bucs 1987)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9767

College: Cal Poly

Passing Stats-53.0% completed/ 111 TDs/ 141 Ints

Rushing Stats- 4.7 yards a carry/ 1504 yards/ 17Tds

7) Dan Marino (Miami Dolphins 1983-1999)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9781

College: Pittsburgh (1st round to Dolphins)

Passing Stats- 59.4% completed/ 420 TDs/ 252 Ints

Rushing Stats- .3 yards a carry/ 87 yards/ 9 TDs

6) Roger Staubach (Dallas Cowboys 1969-1979)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9850

College: Navy (10th round to Dallas)

Passing Stats- 57.0%/ 153 Tds/ 109 Ints

Rushing Stats- 5.5 yards a carry/ 2264 yards/ 20 Tds

5) Bobby Douglass (Chicago Bears 1969-1975, New Orleans Saints 1976-1977, Green Bay Packers 1978)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f98b8

College: Kansas

Passing Stats: 43.0% completed/ 36 TDs/ 64 Ints

Rushing Stats: 6.5 yards a carry/ 2654 yards/ 22 TDs

4) Michael Vick (Atlanta Falcons 2001- 2006, Jail 2007-2008)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f99fc

College: Virginia Tech (1st overall to Falcons)

Passing Stats- 53.8% completed/ 71 TDs/ 52 Ints

Rushing Stats- 7.3 yards a carry/ 3859 yards/ 21 TDs

3) Randall Cunningham (Philadelphia Eagles 1985- 1995, Minnesota Vikings 1997-1999, Dallas 2000, Baltimore 2001)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9a2e

College: UNLV (2nd round to Eagles)

Passing Stats: 56.6% completed/ 207 TDs/ 134 Ints

Rushing Stats: 6.4 yards a carry/ 4928 yards/ 35 TDs

2)Steve Young (TB Bucs 1985-1986, SF 49rs 1987- 1999)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9a16

College: BYU (1st round to Tampa bay)

Passing Stats: 64.3% completed/ 232 Tds/ 107 Ints

Rushing Stats: 5.9 a carry/ 4239 yards/ 43 Tds

1) Fran Tarkenton (Minnesota Vikings 1961- 1966, NY Giants 1967-1971, Vikings 1972- 1978)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9c25

College: Georgia (3rd Round to the Vikings)

Passing Stats: 57.0% completed/ 342 Tds/ 266 Ints

Rushing Stats: 5.4 yards a carry/ 3674 yards/ 32 Tds

Quarterbacks that could make the list in the future: Vince Young, Ben Rothelesberger, Josh Johnson.

 

[Hawkeyeskin]

Dan Marino at #7?

 

[flapgreen]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

 

[PRAE]

Tarkenton really seems modest...

 

[FUBAR]

I expected to see Young / Cunningham 1-2, but Fran was a baller.

 

[Ripleys]

Cunningham should have been #1, and I hate the Eagles.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

 

[Big Score]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

 

[Despyzer]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

I thought so too, but they make a pretty good argument on the clip.Where's Mr. Ed?

 

[BUD GRANT]

I feel sorry for the younger members here that never got to see the likes of Fran Tarkenton play.

When you watched the Vikings play back then you never took your eyes off the game, You never knew what might happen. Some of the best football I've ever watched!

When Tarkenton retired it felt like a part of me died!

Nice video, brought back memories of my younger days.

 

[V1LL]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

I thought so too, but they make a pretty good argument on the clip.Where's Mr. Ed?

I was thinking the EXACT same thing. First Marino at 7 then no Elway?? that's laughable

 

[simsarge]

Nice find. Fran the Man was something. My first and always favorite player. I thought I'd died and went to heaven when he went back to the Vikes after those years in NY.

I hope NFL Network paid him enough money for a store-bought haircut though.

 

[sholditch]

Young should be no. 1

 

[reg]

Kinda surprised Culpepper didn't make the list.

5.2 Avg/ 2536 Yards/ 33 TD's (in only 92 games)

 

[Despyzer]

Jim McMahon was an underrated scrambler too.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Kinda surprised Culpepper didn't make the list.5.2 Avg/ 2536 Yards/ 33 TD's (in only 92 games)

His fumbles per game average probably had something to do with him not making the list.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Looking at NFL QBs up until 2006, here's the top 20 QBs by one quick measure of rushing ability.

The stat is "adjusted rushing yards over 4.0", which is calculated by taking a QB's rushing yards, adding ten yards for every TD, and then subtracting four yards for every carry. So basically, a QB gets credit for long runs and TDs, which is something we might be interested in.

ARYO4.0	Rush   Rush Yd	Rush TD	Name2178	   775	4928	   35		 Randall Cunningham1972	   527	3870	   21		 Michael Vick1781	   722	4239	   43		 Steve Young1312	   657	3570	   37		 Steve McNair1294	   675	3674	   32		 Fran Tarkenton1234	   410	2654	   22		 Bobby Douglass1178	   447	2726	   24		 Donovan McNabb1145	   430	2655	   21		 Greg Landry1014	   560	2874	   38		 Kordell Stewart 988	   687	3506	   23		 Charlie Trippi 958	   635	3128	   37		 Tobin Rote 939	   463	2491	   30		 Daunte Culpepper 841	   384	2197	   18		 Archie Manning 832	   397	2220	   20		 Ken Anderson 824	   410	2264	   20		 Roger Staubach 801	   444	2257	   32		 Terry Bradshaw 746	   445	2176	   35		 Steve Grogan 727	   560	2787	   18		 Jim Harbaugh 641	   774	3407	   33		 John Elway 584	   520	2454	   21		 Rich Gannon

 

[H.K.]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

It is. Watch the clip. I thought it was cool of Marino to go along with the joke, too. Not even the most brainless of Marino's sycophant following will take this seriously.

 

[Despyzer]

Looking at NFL QBs up until 2006, here's the top 20 QBs by one quick measure of rushing ability.

This may or may not be the equivalent of mobility. It seems like the ability to avoid the sack and throw a completion should enter into the whole mobility argument as well, but it would be difficult to statistically quantify that.

 

[renesauz]

Some great memories for me watching the Cunningham clip, and some sadness. The guy could have been one of the best ever with a real coach.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

It is. Watch the clip. I thought it was cool of Marino to go along with the joke, too. Not even the most brainless of Marino's sycophant following will take this seriously.

I'd argue that Marino was a MASTER at avoiding pressure, but he was as far from a scrambling QB as there has ever been. HE could side step and move upwards into the pocket, buying seconds, but thats it.I'd say McNair and Montana belong on this list. (And obviously Elway)

 

[pjconley]

Remember guys, this is a list of Mobile quarterbacks not scrambling quarterbacks (there is a difference).

A mobile quarterback has keen pocket presense, he has the ability to avoid the rush, escape the pocket, and make the throw. Opposed to a QB lacking mobility aka a lame duck, who sits in the pocket, and if the ball isn't released will probably get sacked.

A scrambling quarterback is like Mike Vick. Able to gain yards up and down the field.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Top Ten Mobile QBs

It's like The Sports List, but without Summer Sanders.

 

[awesomeness]

 

[az_prof]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

You guys are forgetting that Fran really did invent that style of play. Without him you would never have those other guys. The guy took a lot of heat for it too as even sportscasters questioned his manliness because he didn't stand in the pocket and take a sack like a man. Damn fools. The guy broke every passing record that existed in his day. It really isn't fair to compare him to today's guys because the game is so different and there is much, much more offense today than there used to be.

 

[Wildman]

McNair and especially Elway belong on that list. I understand the Marino one if you say he was able to step away from trouble in an uncanny fashion as an "alternate" way of thinking of mobility. But to leave Elway and McNair out of it for Zorn and Douglass (who couldn't throw well--the rest of these QBs were actually decent passers) is too bad.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

You guys are forgetting that Fran really did invent that style of play. Without him you would never have those other guys. The guy took a lot of heat for it too as even sportscasters questioned his manliness because he didn't stand in the pocket and take a sack like a man. Damn fools. The guy broke every passing record that existed in his day. It really isn't fair to compare him to today's guys because the game is so different and there is much, much more offense today than there used to be.

Actually, Tarkenton's numbers can look very good compared to modern guys, if you just adjust for era. In fact, one crazy writer argued that over the course of his career, Fran Tarkenton added more value as a passer than any other QB in NFL history. And that doesn't include his rushing ability.

 

[BUD GRANT]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

You guys are forgetting that Fran really did invent that style of play. Without him you would never have those other guys. The guy took a lot of heat for it too as even sportscasters questioned his manliness because he didn't stand in the pocket and take a sack like a man. Damn fools. The guy broke every passing record that existed in his day. It really isn't fair to compare him to today's guys because the game is so different and there is much, much more offense today than there used to be.

Actually, Tarkenton's numbers can look very good compared to modern guys, if you just adjust for era. In fact, one crazy writer argued that over the course of his career, Fran Tarkenton added more value as a passer than any other QB in NFL history. And that doesn't include his rushing ability.

 

[Big Score]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

You guys are forgetting that Fran really did invent that style of play. Without him you would never have those other guys. The guy took a lot of heat for it too as even sportscasters questioned his manliness because he didn't stand in the pocket and take a sack like a man. Damn fools. The guy broke every passing record that existed in his day. It really isn't fair to compare him to today's guys because the game is so different and there is much, much more offense today than there used to be.

Actually, Tarkenton's numbers can look very good compared to modern guys, if you just adjust for era. In fact, one crazy writer argued that over the course of his career, Fran Tarkenton added more value as a passer than any other QB in NFL history. And that doesn't include his rushing ability.

Best not to extrapolate.Defensive players are so much faster & stronger now, that I don't think Tarkenton would have been as successful a scrambling QB in todays game, as he was in his era.

Don't get me wrong now. He still would have pretty darn good stats, just not as good.

Some of his scrambles where he was able to break away from a defender back in his era, he would not be able to do so against todays defenders.

 

[Phurfur]

Cunningham should have been #1, and I hate the Eagles.

Young should be no. 1

Obviously you never saw Fran Tarkenton play.

 

[Workhorse]

Does Hostetler have a place on the top 10 list somewhere?

58% completions, 94 TDs, 71 INTs

4.4 ypc, 17 rushing TDs, 1,391 yrds rushing

You could certainly argue that he was every bit as good as Flutie and he won a Super Bowl.

 

[joffer]

ARYO4.0 Rush Rush Yd Rush TD Name2178 775 4928 35 Randall Cunningham1972 527 3870 21 Michael Vick1781 722 4239 43 Steve Young1312 657 3570 37 Steve McNair1294 675 3674 32 Fran Tarkenton1234 410 2654 22 Bobby Douglass1178 447 2726 24 Donovan McNabb1145 430 2655 21 Greg Landry1014 560 2874 38 Kordell Stewart 988 687 3506 23 Charlie Trippi

that would have been a much better list

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'm not sure what's more surprising: not seeing Kordell on this list, or not seeing anyone post his name in over 30 replies. I'm not saying he's top five, but he's definitely top ten.

 

[jurb26]

I'm not sure what's more surprising: not seeing Kordell on this list, or not seeing anyone post his name in over 30 replies. I'm not saying he's top five, but he's definitely top ten.

People hate Kordell, especially in Pitt. He is a huge oversight on that list and should be in the top 10 no doubt.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

The NFL network piece list didn't concern itself with rushing yardage, and nor should they. Mobile QB doesn't mean rushing forward. if the list was top10rushing QB's then it would be drastically different. however blasting the list without actually watching it is par for the course.

Nobody was better than Marino at simply moving up/side stepping pressure(and a lightning fast release helps). Vick and many other 'scrambling' QB's got sacked atleast twice as much with 4x the athletic ability. Using YPC is kinda screwed up b/c one can quantify how many passing yards/TD's QB's like Marino/Fran kept alive by simply moving and staying in the pocket. how many times did they deliver a 10-20-30yard strike by simply sidestepping or twisting by defenders.

 

[GregR_2]

Looks like a article intent to NOT rank Vick #1. Come on...

Yeah, kinda carazy isn't it?I mean conVick's sporting 7.3 yards per carry, almost an entire yard ahead of the next closest Top Ten Mobile QB, but he's ranked #3?

And Marino at #7 has got to be a joke.

Now if the article is going beyond just judging a QB's mobility, also encompassing the mobile QB's overall play, then I don't see conVick at #3. More like #9 or #10....if even on the list.

You guys are forgetting that Fran really did invent that style of play. Without him you would never have those other guys. The guy took a lot of heat for it too as even sportscasters questioned his manliness because he didn't stand in the pocket and take a sack like a man. Damn fools. The guy broke every passing record that existed in his day. It really isn't fair to compare him to today's guys because the game is so different and there is much, much more offense today than there used to be.

Actually, Tarkenton's numbers can look very good compared to modern guys, if you just adjust for era. In fact, one crazy writer argued that over the course of his career, Fran Tarkenton added more value as a passer than any other QB in NFL history. And that doesn't include his rushing ability.

I'm familiar with that writer. I wouldn't put much stock in anything he says.

 

[GregR_2]

Dan Marino at #7?

This must be some kind of joke.

It is. Watch the clip. I thought it was cool of Marino to go along with the joke, too. Not even the most brainless of Marino's sycophant following will take this seriously.

I don't think you watched the whole clip if that's the message you got from it. They made jokes about him being slow, but said he was there because he was elusive, able to move in the pocket and still get the throw away.If that's part of what they are looking for, I agree Elway and Montana should be in the list. Another glaring omission to me is Tom Brady. I think he's one of the best QBs of his generation at eluding the rush. He's not sprinter fast, but he is great at making rushers miss and buying more time to complete a pass.

 

[joker]

Top Ten Mobile QBs

It's like The Sports List, but without Summer Sanders.

Mmmm.....Summer Sanders....

 

[Donnybrook]

My memory is fuzzy but I don't recall Zorn being a great scrambler. I do remember Rich Gannon as a Viking in the early 90s. He was a much better scrambler back then. Neither is worth of the top 10 IMO.

 

[kethnaab]

the list is rather...interesting.

however, people need to separate "mobile QB" from "scrambling QB" from "runner who throws the ball sometimes"

Someone who moves around in the pocket to avoid sacks and has 'great pocket presence' is a mobile QB (Montana is a prime example of this). Someone who runs all over the place is a scrambling QB. This could be a guy who stays behind the line of scrimmage or a guy who runs the ball (Tarkenton and Young, respectively, Elway, Cunningham, McNair and McNabb are also good additions here). The "runner who throws the ball sometimes" would include guys like Korky and Vick, people who never should've been QBs and who don't really belong on this list since we're talking about "QBs", not "guys who ran the ball well"

 

[goonsquad]

No Stan Humphries?!? WTF?

 

[switz]

Dan Marino at #7?

Marino was "mobile"?

 

[switz]

10) Donovan McNabb (Philadelphia Eagles 1999-present)9) Doug Flutie ( LA Rams, Chicago, New England, Buffalo, San Diego1985-2005) 8) Jim Zorn (Seattle Seahawks 1976-1984, GB Packers 1985, TB Bucs 1987)7) Dan Marino (Miami Dolphins 1983-1999)6) Roger Staubach (Dallas Cowboys 1969-1979)5) Bobby Douglass (Chicago Bears 1969-1975, New Orleans Saints 1976-1977, Green Bay Packers 1978)4) Michael Vick (Atlanta Falcons 2001- 2006, Jail 2007-2008)3) Randall Cunningham (Philadelphia Eagles 1985- 1995, Minnesota Vikings 1997-1999, Dallas 2000, Baltimore 2001)2)Steve Young (TB Bucs 1985-1986, SF 49rs 1987- 1999)1) Fran Tarkenton (Minnesota Vikings 1961- 1966, NY Giants 1967-1971, Vikings 1972- 1978)

This is a joke. Rich Gannon was a better mobile quarterback than a few of these guys (Marino, Zorn). Marino was never a mobile QB at all. Where is John Elway?

 

[trader jake]

Nice list Chase...I like your top 10 much better.

Where does Jake Plummer land on the list?

 

[Clifton]

NO STEVE GROGAN!?!?!?!!

 

[pjconley]

Dan Marino at #7?

Marino was "mobile"?

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9781That explains why he's on the list... "The key to Marino's greatness wasn't just his quick release, but his great footwork."

 

[Sabertooth]

Top Ten Mobile QBs (Vick is NOT number1)

NFL.com has added tons of new features, including lots of video. They put together a top 10 list of the greatest mobile Quarterbacks of all time. I went ahead and added some more stats under the links, so enjoy. (The video highlights are incredible.)

10) Donovan McNabb (Philadelphia Eagles 1999-present)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f96bd

College: Syracuse University (1st overall to Eagles)

Passing Stats- 58.7% completed/ 171 TDs/ 79 ints

Rushing Stats- 6 yards a carry/ 2962 Yards/ 24TDs

9) Doug Flutie ( LA Rams, Chicago, New England, Buffalo, San Diego1985-2005)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9799

College: Boston (11th round to Rams)

Passing Stats- 54.7% completed/ 86TD/ 68 Tds

Rushing Stats- 4.8 yards a carry/1634 yards/ 10 TDs

8) Jim Zorn (Seattle Seahawks 1976-1984, GB Packers 1985, TB Bucs 1987)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9767

College: Cal Poly

Passing Stats-53.0% completed/ 111 TDs/ 141 Ints

Rushing Stats- 4.7 yards a carry/ 1504 yards/ 17Tds

7) Dan Marino (Miami Dolphins 1983-1999)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9781

College: Pittsburgh (1st round to Dolphins)

Passing Stats- 59.4% completed/ 420 TDs/ 252 Ints

Rushing Stats- .3 yards a carry/ 87 yards/ 9 TDs

6) Roger Staubach (Dallas Cowboys 1969-1979)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9850

College: Navy (10th round to Dallas)

Passing Stats- 57.0%/ 153 Tds/ 109 Ints

Rushing Stats- 5.5 yards a carry/ 2264 yards/ 20 Tds

5) Bobby Douglass (Chicago Bears 1969-1975, New Orleans Saints 1976-1977, Green Bay Packers 1978)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f98b8

College: Kansas

Passing Stats: 43.0% completed/ 36 TDs/ 64 Ints

Rushing Stats: 6.5 yards a carry/ 2654 yards/ 22 TDs

4) Michael Vick (Atlanta Falcons 2001- 2006, Jail 2007-2008)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f99fc

College: Virginia Tech (1st overall to Falcons)

Passing Stats- 53.8% completed/ 71 TDs/ 52 Ints

Rushing Stats- 7.3 yards a carry/ 3859 yards/ 21 TDs

3) Randall Cunningham (Philadelphia Eagles 1985- 1995, Minnesota Vikings 1997-1999, Dallas 2000, Baltimore 2001)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9a2e

College: UNLV (2nd round to Eagles)

Passing Stats: 56.6% completed/ 207 TDs/ 134 Ints

Rushing Stats: 6.4 yards a carry/ 4928 yards/ 35 TDs

2)Steve Young (TB Bucs 1985-1986, SF 49rs 1987- 1999)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9a16

College: BYU (1st round to Tampa bay)

Passing Stats: 64.3% completed/ 232 Tds/ 107 Ints

Rushing Stats: 5.9 a carry/ 4239 yards/ 43 Tds

1) Fran Tarkenton (Minnesota Vikings 1961- 1966, NY Giants 1967-1971, Vikings 1972- 1978)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9c25

College: Georgia (3rd Round to the Vikings)

Passing Stats: 57.0% completed/ 342 Tds/ 266 Ints

Rushing Stats: 5.4 yards a carry/ 3674 yards/ 32 Tds

Quarterbacks that could make the list in the future: Vince Young, Ben Rothelesberger, Josh Johnson.

I said initially Steve Young or Elway. Young was a beast and deadly accurate on the move. My only memories of Tarkenton are from "That's Incredible!"

 

[DoubleG]

the list is rather...interesting.

however, people need to separate "mobile QB" from "scrambling QB" from "runner who throws the ball sometimes"

Someone who moves around in the pocket to avoid sacks and has 'great pocket presence' is a mobile QB (Montana is a prime example of this). Someone who runs all over the place is a scrambling QB. This could be a guy who stays behind the line of scrimmage or a guy who runs the ball (Tarkenton and Young, respectively, Elway, Cunningham, McNair and McNabb are also good additions here). The "runner who throws the ball sometimes" would include guys like Korky and Vick, people who never should've been QBs and who don't really belong on this list since we're talking about "QBs", not "guys who ran the ball well"

The problem is that many think the best mobile QB has to be the QB who would have made the best running back. That's just silly. He is the QB first. A better way to settle who "the best mobile QB" of the bunch is, is to ask the question, who would you rather have on your team?

Passing Stats: 64.3% completed/ 232 Tds/ 107 Ints - 2.17:1 TD/INT ratio

Rushing Stats: 5.9 a carry/ 4239 yards/ 43 Tds

Passing Stats: 57.0% completed/ 342 Tds/ 266 Ints -1.29:1 TD/INT ratio

Rushing Stats: 5.4 yards a carry/ 3674 yards/ 32 Tds

I'll take the first set of stats, thank you. And please, spare me the Tarkenton was a god talk. The fact is Young was a much better QB (passer) and a better runner - and was deadly accurate with his arm while on the run. Was Tarkenton great? Abso-freaking-lutely. Was he as good as Young?

 

[Bri]

Never saw Tarkenton play

Cunningham was a better runner than Young, best I've ever seen with no one being close. Dominant against some of the most famous Ds of all time is nothing to be brushed off. The late 80s Giants, for example, could hunt down any player and wreak havoc on any offense. He seemed to drive them nuts with his feet.

Young was the best at buying time with his feet.

IMO there's a difference between the two intentions there.

Young Cunningham was one of the most entertaining players I've ever seen. That's hard to forget and judge him appropriately.

 

[kethnaab]

"better runner" is irrelevant.

Young was a far better QB than Cunningham.

Tarkenton was phenominal. Keep in mind the times as well. The 60s and 70s were a different game for WRs. Tarkenton was awesome, although I'd still have to go with Steve Young being #1 here.