Trade Advice (2 Viewers)

[rascal]

Your SP is okay IMO. You don't have an ace, but you've got a bunch of #2 and should improve once Matusz gets rolling. I'd be concerned about Pineda being on an innings count though.I don't like your OF either. Is Seth Smith available? Maybe package Hanrahan with an OF to get an upgrade (or is RP at a premium). I think Hanrahan is due for a regression. Unfortunately.

Seth Smith is available but this is a weekly league and doesnt he platoon? The Hanrahan idea is a solid one.

He platoons, but not as much as people think. I think he has played 10 times since June 9th (13 days). Since they benched Fowler and moved Cargo to center he has been getting more playing time. Since June 9th he has 9 runs, 3 HRs, 9 RBI, and a hit in every game but 2. He has 209 ABs this season. In my league he is ranked 27th OF (higher than Ethier, Upton, and Cruz to name a few) and I've been thinking of getting him and bench Abreu.

 

[rascal]

Need to trade for a MI or OF. Been offered Rickie Weeks for any of these pitchers.Which pitcher would you part with?HalladaySabathiaDavid PriceJames ShieldsGoing to replace whichever one I trade with John Lannan

Oof...You should get more than Weeks for any of those pitchers. I don't care what black hole you have @ MI or OF.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Well I was also offered Jason Heyward for James Shields.

I just don't know if there's a turnaround in site for Heyward, kind of concerned at this point.

 

[shadyridr]

Well I was also offered Jason Heyward for James Shields.I just don't know if there's a turnaround in site for Heyward, kind of concerned at this point.

Dude Im gonna stop helping you if you dont return the favor

 

[urbanhack]

Ricky Romero (team A) for C. Quentin (team b)

team B is dead last in ERA and WHIP

yes or no

 

[SuperAwesomeDude]

Ricky Romero (team A) for C. Quentin (team b)team B is dead last in ERA and WHIPyes or no

yes

 

[Captain Hook]

Need to trade for a MI or OF. Been offered Rickie Weeks for any of these pitchers.Which pitcher would you part with?HalladaySabathiaDavid PriceJames ShieldsGoing to replace whichever one I trade with John Lannan

1) Lannan is only a spot starter2) you don't say who your other pitchers are and whether you play all or bench3) weekly or daily trannies?4) I see you have Nishioka - if you need Weeks for power more than speed, then fine....maybe trade Hanson for Weeks , but5) I think all those pitchers are worth MORE than Weeks, unless6) you trade Sabbathia and Nishioka and get Weeks + something useful

 

[Captain Hook]

Ricky Romero (team A) for C. Quentin (team b)team B is dead last in ERA and WHIPyes or no

Romero by himself will NOT help Team B in ERA and WHIP

 

[Mentos]

We have two teams here. One has a record of 73-31-6 for a winning pct. of .691. The other team is 43-62-5 (.414).

The .691 guy e-mailed me today to let me know he may receive Reyes, Halladay, and Teixeira for Ogando, Votto, Cruz, and A. Cabrera. He wanted to see if I thought the trade would go through.

I told him that it is fair enough, but that he is definitely getting the better end of the deal. He knows that too. Otherwise, why do the deal?

The .414 guy has made 7 trades. 3 of them involved the .691 guy.

The .691 guy has only made 3 trades- all with the .414 guy.

It is interesting to note that these two fellows knew each other before joining the league. Whether they are real life friends or just internet buddies I don't know.

Does anyone think the deal looks a little fishy? You know like, "I'm done. My team sucks. I'll help you a little, but let's not make it obvious. I'll give you a better SS and SP, but I'll get the better 1B. The difference between the 1Bs is not huge, though, so you'll get the worse of the two but still be fine at that position. Then for good measure throw in one of your OFs from your 4-OF platoon."

Maybe I'm being paranoid. Maybe I'm mad that the rich is getting richer. Or maybe I'm right-- maybe the deal is sketchy.

 

[shadyridr]

Think youre being paranoid here. Cabrera's been a stud at SS and you can even make the case hes better than Reyes. Id rather have Votto than Tex. Cruz is a stud. And Halladay is a stud. The worst player in the deal is Ogando and even hes been pretty good

 

[Mentos]

Think youre being paranoid here. Cabrera's been a stud at SS and you can even make the case hes better than Reyes. Id rather have Votto than Tex. Cruz is a stud. And Halladay is a stud. The worst player in the deal is Ogando and even hes been pretty good

It's more than the actual trade, though. These guys are friends and in three previous trades between them the .691 guy clearly "won" all three. I also want to know why Reyes, Halladay, and Teixeira were not mentioned as having been on the trade block. The .414 guy was not obligated to do that. Why not do that, though? He would have raised up the price and gotten better packages for those three players.

 

[shadyridr]

Think youre being paranoid here. Cabrera's been a stud at SS and you can even make the case hes better than Reyes. Id rather have Votto than Tex. Cruz is a stud. And Halladay is a stud. The worst player in the deal is Ogando and even hes been pretty good

It's more than the actual trade, though. These guys are friends and in three previous trades between them the .691 guy clearly "won" all three. I also want to know why Reyes, Halladay, and Teixeira were not mentioned as having been on the trade block. The .414 guy was not obligated to do that. Why not do that, though? He would have raised up the price and gotten better packages for those three players.

We cant really answer those questions. However I noticed in all leagues Im in friends tend to trade with eachother more often not because theyre cheating but because they talk to eachother all the time.

 

[Mentos]

Think youre being paranoid here. Cabrera's been a stud at SS and you can even make the case hes better than Reyes. Id rather have Votto than Tex. Cruz is a stud. And Halladay is a stud. The worst player in the deal is Ogando and even hes been pretty good

It's more than the actual trade, though. These guys are friends and in three previous trades between them the .691 guy clearly "won" all three. I also want to know why Reyes, Halladay, and Teixeira were not mentioned as having been on the trade block. The .414 guy was not obligated to do that. Why not do that, though? He would have raised up the price and gotten better packages for those three players.

We cant really answer those questions. However I noticed in all leagues Im in friends tend to trade with eachother more often not because theyre cheating but because they talk to eachother all the time.

I've been playing since 2000. I've seen everything, believe me.This trade here is sketchy.Cruz is a platoon OF on the .691 team. The team is winning 69% of the time. It is stacked. It got stacked from dealing with the .414 guy.Ogando vs Halladay- no contestCabrera vs Reyes- close, but Reyes is more highly rated in our league based on the statsVotto vs Teixeira- close, I think the HR edge of Tex is better than the AVG edge that Votto bringsLOL at this-.414 guys makes a post about how Reyes, Halladay, and Teixeira are now available and that everyone in the league should now try to get them. A minute later, .414 guy accepts the deal with the .691 guy which renders the post meaningless since the league is set up for commissioner power for trades. That is a nasty tease and ridiculous.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Well I was also offered Jason Heyward for James Shields.I just don't know if there's a turnaround in site for Heyward, kind of concerned at this point.

Dude Im gonna stop helping you if you dont return the favor

I'm on it man - I missed your last question so my bad on that.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Need to trade for a MI or OF. Been offered Rickie Weeks for any of these pitchers.Which pitcher would you part with?HalladaySabathiaDavid PriceJames ShieldsGoing to replace whichever one I trade with John Lannan

1) Lannan is only a spot starter2) you don't say who your other pitchers are and whether you play all or bench3) weekly or daily trannies?4) I see you have Nishioka - if you need Weeks for power more than speed, then fine....maybe trade Hanson for Weeks , but5) I think all those pitchers are worth MORE than Weeks, unless6) you trade Sabbathia and Nishioka and get Weeks + something useful

Good stuff - thanks CH.My other pitchers are spot startersI've got the 4 guys listed, Hanson on the DL.Additionally I have Peavy and James McDonald and then one open spot I'm streaming through with whomever plays the A's basically. It's daily lineups so I can get a guy in there every day. My offense is top heavy. Miggy Cabrera, Hamilton, Cano, Cargo and then a bunch of scrubs - Yorvit Torreabla, Mitch Moreland, John Jay to name a few.I've got to sure it up and I have the best pitching in the league so with Sabathia, Price, Shields, Hanson, Halladay, Peavy, McDonald - I just feel like I can afford to lose one to replace Nishioki or John Jay or Torreabla

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

I'm curious as to why people said I should be able to get more than Rickie Weeks for one of my ace pitchers. Weeks is the 3rd rated MI in my scoring format ahead of Robinson Cano right now. He's also the FIRST ranked 2nd basemen. I'm not sure how much better I can do and for David Price or James Shields for Rickie Weeks, it doesn't seem all that bad

 

[Captain Hook]

I'm curious as to why people said I should be able to get more than Rickie Weeks for one of my ace pitchers. Weeks is the 3rd rated MI in my scoring format ahead of Robinson Cano right now. He's also the FIRST ranked 2nd basemen. I'm not sure how much better I can do and for David Price or James Shields for Rickie Weeks, it doesn't seem all that bad

That is generally their experience in their leagues....but there is such a wide variation of leagues - specifically number of teams, starting lineups and bench spots that it is very hard to generalize these days. YOU are the one in your league so assuming you have done due diligence on trades in your league we just have to presume you are correct about what a SP will bring - every league is different.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Gotcha - while even with the scrubs in my offense it's now week 13 and I've yet to lose a Head 2 Head matchup and I'm in first place by 27 games so I'll probably stand pat.

A lot of guys in our league don't value pitching high enough, infact, way lower beyond normal so I scooped up some ace pitchers very cheaply.

Traded Mike Stanton for Roy Halladay (and this owner is a pretty astute GM)

Traded Adrian Gonzalez for Carlos Gonzalez and CC Sabathia.

And now the past 4 weeks, my pitching record is 19-4-1.

At a record of 97-39, looks like I'm just going to stand pat. Weeks is the best available 2B in our scoring format but it's going to cost me Shields, Price, Hanson or Sabathia

 

[Limp Ditka]

uh oh I think I may have pulled off a bad trade. Ive been looking for a 2B for weeks now as I loathe my current 2B (Hill). Sent a bunch of offers last night and one was accepted this morning that Im already regretting a bit.

I gave: 2B Hill & SP Ogando

I get: 2B Kendrick & SP Garza

I figured it was an upgrade at 2B while selling Ogando "high" and buying Garza low. But looking at the #s and Garza kind of stinks so far. Did I just make a boo boo?

I think so - quick who has a higher batting average over the last week (maybe two)?Yeah, Hill

Ogando >>>> Garza

On balance you probably get better BAvg at 2B and maybe a few more SB but other categories could be close - for that you gave up the much better pitcher in the deal

hooray for small sample sizes. Hill's put up a stream of crap for about 9 straight months now. One or two weeks isn't going to change my mind.And you really don't think Ogando fades? I think it's inevitable. The guy's already 20% over his career high in innings pitched and it's only mid-June.

Plus Garza's FIP, xFIP and K/9 are all significantly better than Ogando's . He's the epitome of buy low right now.

i hate hill. hes awful. im positive i upgraded at 2b now its just a matter how much i downgraded at sp. some say i may have upgraded, some say i downgraded significantly. we shall see

Early returns on this are pretty damn good

 

[shadyridr]

uh oh I think I may have pulled off a bad trade. Ive been looking for a 2B for weeks now as I loathe my current 2B (Hill). Sent a bunch of offers last night and one was accepted this morning that Im already regretting a bit.

I gave: 2B Hill & SP Ogando

I get: 2B Kendrick & SP Garza

I figured it was an upgrade at 2B while selling Ogando "high" and buying Garza low. But looking at the #s and Garza kind of stinks so far. Did I just make a boo boo?

I think so - quick who has a higher batting average over the last week (maybe two)?Yeah, Hill

Ogando >>>> Garza

On balance you probably get better BAvg at 2B and maybe a few more SB but other categories could be close - for that you gave up the much better pitcher in the deal

hooray for small sample sizes. Hill's put up a stream of crap for about 9 straight months now. One or two weeks isn't going to change my mind.And you really don't think Ogando fades? I think it's inevitable. The guy's already 20% over his career high in innings pitched and it's only mid-June.

Plus Garza's FIP, xFIP and K/9 are all significantly better than Ogando's . He's the epitome of buy low right now.

i hate hill. hes awful. im positive i upgraded at 2b now its just a matter how much i downgraded at sp. some say i may have upgraded, some say i downgraded significantly. we shall see

Early returns on this are pretty damn good

loving this right now!

 

[rascal]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)

C: Pierzynski

1B: Miggy

2B: Kinsler

3B: Pablo

SS: Alcides Escobar

OF: Granderson, Holliday, Abreu

UTL: Teixeira, Phillips

DL: Jeter

RP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and Gregg

Would you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenario.

Obviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

 

[Captain Hook]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

 

[rascal]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

 

[Captain Hook]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

Barely ownable does not compute - in a one catcher league you would prefer to play someone better than both but when they are not available you do the best you can.Arencibia vs Pierzynsk - total value has been pretty much equal so far - the question is whether you want/need Power or BAvg from you catcher - pretty easy choice

 

[rascal]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

Barely ownable does not compute - in a one catcher league you would prefer to play someone better than both but when they are not available you do the best you can.Arencibia vs Pierzynsk - total value has been pretty much equal so far - the question is whether you want/need Power or BAvg from you catcher - pretty easy choice

I would agree, but I needed the average for a bit. Moving on.So you think the downgrade from Kinsler @ UTL to those names mentioned is more than the improvement of Pierzynks or Arcencibia to Victor Martinez.FWIW, Michael Brantley, Logan Morrison, and Mike Moustakas were just dropped (don't ask me why...the guy that did has made some weird WW moves all year...like dropping Shields who I immediately picked up yet remains in first).

 

[Captain Hook]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

Barely ownable does not compute - in a one catcher league you would prefer to play someone better than both but when they are not available you do the best you can.Arencibia vs Pierzynsk - total value has been pretty much equal so far - the question is whether you want/need Power or BAvg from you catcher - pretty easy choice

I would agree, but I needed the average for a bit. Moving on.So you think the downgrade from Kinsler @ UTL to those names mentioned is more than the improvement of Pierzynks or Arcencibia to Victor Martinez.FWIW, Michael Brantley, Logan Morrison, and Mike Moustakas were just dropped (don't ask me why...the guy that did has made some weird WW moves all year...like dropping Shields who I immediately picked up yet remains in first).

If you can trade Kinsler and a lesser closer for VMart and pickup LoMo, I would be all over that

 

[jamny]

If you were done for this season and looking towards next year, would you trade Prince Fielder to get Pujols?

obviously it's a keeper league. Keep 6, no contract

 

[Captain Hook]

If you were done for this season and looking towards next year, would you trade Prince Fielder to get Pujols? obviously it's a keeper league. Keep 6, no contract

DEFINITELY - we don't know where either will be playing their home games next year, but assuming Pujols is healthy his value depends less on home park. If it were a straight draft right now, wouldn't you take Pujols earlier?

 

[rascal]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

Barely ownable does not compute - in a one catcher league you would prefer to play someone better than both but when they are not available you do the best you can.Arencibia vs Pierzynsk - total value has been pretty much equal so far - the question is whether you want/need Power or BAvg from you catcher - pretty easy choice

I would agree, but I needed the average for a bit. Moving on.So you think the downgrade from Kinsler @ UTL to those names mentioned is more than the improvement of Pierzynks or Arcencibia to Victor Martinez.FWIW, Michael Brantley, Logan Morrison, and Mike Moustakas were just dropped (don't ask me why...the guy that did has made some weird WW moves all year...like dropping Shields who I immediately picked up yet remains in first).

If you can trade Kinsler and a lesser closer for VMart and pickup LoMo, I would be all over that

Offered Kinsler and Melancon and rejected without a response. He is starting Beckham @ 2B and has 2 closers. I don't get it.

 

[Captain Hook]

So this is my offense (12 team, yahoo scoring)C: Pierzynski1B: Miggy2B: Kinsler3B: PabloSS: Alcides EscobarOF: Granderson, Holliday, AbreuUTL: Teixeira, PhillipsDL: JeterRP: Rivera, Hanrahan, Valverde, Melancon, and GreggWould you rather have Carlos Gonzalez or Victor Martinez (FWIW, J.P. Arencibia is available)? Cargo is better, but the difference between Pierzynski and Martinez is significant. I would probably have to trade Kinsler and a RP for Victor (dropping Pierzynski) or potentially Kinsler/Abreu for Cargo (I'm guessing so it could be more). I would pick up Roger Bernadina, Mark Trumbo, or something similar for the vacant UTL spot in either scenaribviously improving SS would be the best, but the only guy who is willing to trade a SS is asking for a lot more than I'm willing to give up.

1) The biggest upgrade you can make now is at C - and Arencibia costs you NOTHING2) You can easily trade a RP but the changes you suggest at UT may be losing more than you are gaining

I had Arencibia, but he was slumping. Pierzynski was hot, and has been, so I picked him up. I recognize he is barely ownable, but I didn't think Arencibia was that great anyway.

Barely ownable does not compute - in a one catcher league you would prefer to play someone better than both but when they are not available you do the best you can.Arencibia vs Pierzynsk - total value has been pretty much equal so far - the question is whether you want/need Power or BAvg from you catcher - pretty easy choice

I would agree, but I needed the average for a bit. Moving on.So you think the downgrade from Kinsler @ UTL to those names mentioned is more than the improvement of Pierzynks or Arcencibia to Victor Martinez.FWIW, Michael Brantley, Logan Morrison, and Mike Moustakas were just dropped (don't ask me why...the guy that did has made some weird WW moves all year...like dropping Shields who I immediately picked up yet remains in first).

If you can trade Kinsler and a lesser closer for VMart and pickup LoMo, I would be all over that

Offered Kinsler and Melancon and rejected without a response. He is starting Beckham @ 2B and has 2 closers. I don't get it.

well Melancon is not very good, so I am not surprised.....Have you talked to this guy at all? Maybe he is a Beckham lover? Ask him if he would be interested in upgrading to Kinsler and give him his choice of Gregg or Valverde or Hanrahan

 

[rascal]

As good as Kinsler is hitting maybe I'll just hold out....lol.

 

[rascal]

Another series of questions....

I think I need to trade Jordan Zimmerman while his value his high, and especially so since my league is h2h and he is very likely to get shut down. I'd love to get Marcum or Grienke (owned by the same guy). In addition to Zimmerman, what would you expect to give up for either? The other owner scores sub .500 in HR, RBI, Wins, ERA, and WHIP.

I'm also thinking about dropping Kevin Gregg for Cory Luebke or Rich Harden.

My team (12 team, yahoo scoring, currently in first)

C: A.J. Pierzynski

1B: Miguel Cabrera

2B: Brandon Phillips

SS: Alcides Escobar

3B: Pablo Sandoval

UTL: Mark Teixeira, Ian Kinsler

OF: Curtis Granderson, Matt Holliday, Bobby Abreu

BN: Logan Morrison

SP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Jarr Jurrjens, James Shields, Jordan Zimmerman

RP: Mariano Rivera, Jose Valverde, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Mark Melancon

DL: Derek Jeter, Erik Bedard

 

[shadyridr]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.

My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, Freese

My SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, Jackson

I tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interested

help guys!

 

[Thunderlips]

What do you guys think McCutchen's value is in a H2H points league.....specifically starting pitcher wise. I got Kemp, A. Jones, Damon and Swisher in the OF and am looking to improve on Price, C.J. Wilson, Scherzer, Leake, Wolf and D. Holland ( I had expected big things from Anderson and Matusz and they've disappointed).

 

[shadyridr]

i play in a h2h pts league too. id say mccutchen is worth a tier 2 pitcher, like a grienke, , price, etc. please help mine above

 

[Captain Hook]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

It doesn't look like your pitching is strong enough to go from Greinke > Baker (who I don't think will be as good for the 2nd half) for the difference between your weakest OF/UT and Upton and then you have a good player sitting on the bench

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

I would pull the trigger on this ASAP.Think of it this way, if there were fantasy baseball teams that were just one OF/DH, and one SP, would you rather have:OF: Justin UptonSP: Scott BakerorOF/DH: David FreeseSP: Zack GreinkeMe too.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

I would pull the trigger on this ASAP.Think of it this way, if there were fantasy baseball teams that were just one OF/DH, and one SP, would you rather have:OF: Justin UptonSP: Scott BakerorOF/DH: David FreeseSP: Zack GreinkeMe too.

ThisOutside of Ks, Baker's outpitched Greinke in every way imaginable over the last month +. It doesn't devastate your pitching depth at all.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Made two trades last week, curious to see what people think. This is an H2H league (I know), and there are about 7 weeks left in the regular season, in which I will need to make a very strong run to make the playoffs.

My roster before (14 team, OBP):

C: Avila

1B: Moreland

2B: Espinosa

3B: Bautista

SS: Escobar

OF: Holliday

OF: Werth

OF: R. Roberts

DH: Melky Cabrera

DH: Hafner

Bn: D. Brown

Bn: Nix

DL: Craig

DL: Morneau

Trade #1: Matt Holliday and Jayson Werth for Paul Konerko and Nick Swisher and Josh Willingham

Trade #2: Ryan Roberts, Justin Morneau, Justin Masterson for Carlos Beltran

 

[shadyridr]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

I would pull the trigger on this ASAP.Think of it this way, if there were fantasy baseball teams that were just one OF/DH, and one SP, would you rather have:OF: Justin UptonSP: Scott BakerorOF/DH: David FreeseSP: Zack GreinkeMe too.

ThisOutside of Ks, Baker's outpitched Greinke in every way imaginable over the last month +. It doesn't devastate your pitching depth at all.

So this deal fell apart cuz the guy didnt wanna include Baker and I couldnt make a counteroffer before he accepted another deal for Upton. He took Cahill & Rasmus for Justin Upton . Actually I dont know whether I should laugh or cry. Im so pissed right now. This happened Sunday night and Im still pissed about it.

 

[shadyridr]

Made two trades last week, curious to see what people think. This is an H2H league (I know), and there are about 7 weeks left in the regular season, in which I will need to make a very strong run to make the playoffs.My roster before (14 team, OBP):C: Avila 1B: Moreland 2B: Espinosa 3B: Bautista SS: EscobarOF: HollidayOF: WerthOF: R. RobertsDH: Melky CabreraDH: HafnerBn: D. BrownBn: NixDL: CraigDL: MorneauTrade #1: Matt Holliday and Jayson Werth for Paul Konerko and Nick Swisher and Josh WillinghamTrade #2: Ryan Roberts, Justin Morneau, Justin Masterson for Carlos Beltran

#1- I like his side better but can see why you did it considering the massive hole you have at 1B. Not bad.#2- Waiver Wire junk for an AS OF? I like itThe two trades in conjunction make perfect sense. Good work

 

[sihaokills]

Made two trades last week, curious to see what people think. This is an H2H league (I know), and there are about 7 weeks left in the regular season, in which I will need to make a very strong run to make the playoffs.My roster before (14 team, OBP):C: Avila 1B: Moreland 2B: Espinosa 3B: Bautista SS: EscobarOF: HollidayOF: WerthOF: R. RobertsDH: Melky CabreraDH: HafnerBn: D. BrownBn: NixDL: CraigDL: MorneauTrade #1: Matt Holliday and Jayson Werth for Paul Konerko and Nick Swisher and Josh WillinghamTrade #2: Ryan Roberts, Justin Morneau, Justin Masterson for Carlos Beltran

#1- I like his side better but can see why you did it considering the massive hole you have at 1B. Not bad.#2- Waiver Wire junk for an AS OF? I like itThe two trades in conjunction make perfect sense. Good work

If you call Masterson and Robert WW junk in a 14 team league, you are out of your mind. Masterson has been pitching great this year.

 

[rascal]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

I would pull the trigger on this ASAP.Think of it this way, if there were fantasy baseball teams that were just one OF/DH, and one SP, would you rather have:OF: Justin UptonSP: Scott BakerorOF/DH: David FreeseSP: Zack GreinkeMe too.

ThisOutside of Ks, Baker's outpitched Greinke in every way imaginable over the last month +. It doesn't devastate your pitching depth at all.

So this deal fell apart cuz the guy didnt wanna include Baker and I couldnt make a counteroffer before he accepted another deal for Upton. He took Cahill & Rasmus for Justin Upton . Actually I dont know whether I should laugh or cry. Im so pissed right now. This happened Sunday night and Im still pissed about it.

Didn't Baker just hurt his elbow? Maybe a blessing in disguise.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Made two trades last week, curious to see what people think. This is an H2H league (I know), and there are about 7 weeks left in the regular season, in which I will need to make a very strong run to make the playoffs.My roster before (14 team, OBP):C: Avila 1B: Moreland 2B: Espinosa 3B: Bautista SS: EscobarOF: HollidayOF: WerthOF: R. RobertsDH: Melky CabreraDH: HafnerBn: D. BrownBn: NixDL: CraigDL: MorneauTrade #1: Matt Holliday and Jayson Werth for Paul Konerko and Nick Swisher and Josh WillinghamTrade #2: Ryan Roberts, Justin Morneau, Justin Masterson for Carlos Beltran

#1- I like his side better but can see why you did it considering the massive hole you have at 1B. Not bad.#2- Waiver Wire junk for an AS OF? I like itThe two trades in conjunction make perfect sense. Good work

If you call Masterson and Robert WW junk in a 14 team league, you are out of your mind. Masterson has been pitching great this year.

Masterson has been pretty good, but I feel like there are a lot of similar-type pitchers on the WW, and he wasn't getting much work for me. Not that my staff is superlative, but it's deep and he always seemed to be on the bench.Roberts was on a tear to begin the season, but has been waning since, especially in the power dept. The last two games he's sat the bench and hit 7th.The hole at 1B was one reason for it, there isn't much else out there outside of Casey Kotchman. But in an OBP league, even on a per-game basis, Konerko has been outpacing Holliday stastically. And Holliday's average is not sustainable IMO. Swisher has also been better than Werth statistically, and I fear that Werth's been playing through nagging injuries all year. This also went down when he was on the shelf for the bad hip. Had I known Pujols was going to come back so fast, it might've changed the equation slightly, but I still would've done it. Nobody's going to hold a .372 BABIP forever.

 

[urbanhack]

Last place team has Pujols and I'm making an offer. I'm deep at OF, so I'm going to offer J. Upton, C. Pena and M. Reynolds. Is that giving away too much??

5x5 non-keeper

11 teams

thats giving up way too little. Reynolds has zero value right now & Pena is barely ahead of him

Agreed. Unless you get points for strike outs.

Yea, that is a terrible offer. I'm not so sure I would give up Ike Davis for those 3. Reynolds and Pena aren't even rostered in many leagues.

update?

 

[shadyridr]

Last place team has Pujols and I'm making an offer. I'm deep at OF, so I'm going to offer J. Upton, C. Pena and M. Reynolds. Is that giving away too much??

5x5 non-keeper

11 teams

thats giving up way too little. Reynolds has zero value right now & Pena is barely ahead of him

Agreed. Unless you get points for strike outs.

Yea, that is a terrible offer. I'm not so sure I would give up Ike Davis for those 3. Reynolds and Pena aren't even rostered in many leagues.

update?

At the time it was way too little. Not sure how their hot streak changed the value of the offer at that time.

 

[shadyridr]

I was offered justin Upton & Baker for my Grienke. Also this is a keep 5 keeper league. Im tempted cuz I need the help at UTIL/OF but this would devastate my pitching depth.My OF/UTIL = Cruz, BJ, Ethier, FreeseMy SP = Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Scherzer, Humber, Garza, Nolasco, Karstens, JacksonI tried to counteroffer for Scherzer, Pineda, or Marcum but he wasnt interestedhelp guys!

I would pull the trigger on this ASAP.Think of it this way, if there were fantasy baseball teams that were just one OF/DH, and one SP, would you rather have:OF: Justin UptonSP: Scott BakerorOF/DH: David FreeseSP: Zack GreinkeMe too.

ThisOutside of Ks, Baker's outpitched Greinke in every way imaginable over the last month +. It doesn't devastate your pitching depth at all.

So this deal fell apart cuz the guy didnt wanna include Baker and I couldnt make a counteroffer before he accepted another deal for Upton. He took Cahill & Rasmus for Justin Upton . Actually I dont know whether I should laugh or cry. Im so pissed right now. This happened Sunday night and Im still pissed about it.

Didn't Baker just hurt his elbow? Maybe a blessing in disguise.

Yeah but after the fact that I lost out on Upton I think I wouldve done it without Baker and thats why he didnt take my offer (I also included Joyce). How terrible is that other offer BTW?

 

[Wrigley]

Just traded for Braun.......go figure

 

[shadyridr]

Just traded for Braun.......go figure

whatcha give up? Calf injuries usually linger.

 

[shadyridr]

I was offered Chris Young for any of the following players:

Grienke

Marcum

Pineda

ARod

Obviously if I trade ARod Id have to ask for a lesser 3B in return (he has Reynolds & Aramis). The other 3 would be a straight up trade IMO. Please note this is a H2H points league. I need an OF desperately (currently starting Cruz, BJUpton, Ethier, Joyce). My pitching is nothing special but deep (Grienke, Marcum, Pineda, Garza, Scherzer, Nolasco, Humber, Karstens, Worley)

Also keep in mind this is a keeper league and I can keep 5. The Justin Upton deal above fell apart