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Trade Advice (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter the moops
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Get: Shin-Soo Choo and Madison Bumgarner
Give: Bobby Abreu and Edwin Jackson
Not sure what to think about this. Choo would give me some much needed speed and boost my OF. Bumgarner has sucked thus far, but think he would turn it around.
My team (12 team, h2h)
C: Geovany Soto
1B: Miguel Cabrera
2B: Brandon Phillips
SS: Derek Jeter
3B: Pablo Sandoval
UTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin Morneau
OF: Matt Holliday, Curtis Granderson, Bobby Abreu
Bench: Jed Lowrie
SP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Aaron Harang, Jarr Jurrjens, James Shields
RP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Sean Burnett
Give: Bobby Abreu and Edwin Jackson
Not sure what to think about this. Choo would give me some much needed speed and boost my OF. Bumgarner has sucked thus far, but think he would turn it around.
My team (12 team, h2h)
C: Geovany Soto
1B: Miguel Cabrera
2B: Brandon Phillips
SS: Derek Jeter
3B: Pablo Sandoval
UTL: Mark Teixeira, Justin Morneau
OF: Matt Holliday, Curtis Granderson, Bobby Abreu
Bench: Jed Lowrie
SP: Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Chad Billingsley, Trevor Cahill, Matt Garza, Aaron Harang, Jarr Jurrjens, James Shields
RP: Mariano Rivera, Joel Hanrahan, Kevin Gregg, Sean Burnett
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Thanks for responding. There are now three guys who want me to veto the trade. Of course, there has now been some fighting on the board. The whole thing is out of control.
the moops
Footballguy
Yes
sihaokills
Footballguy
I get Drew Stubbs, Dez Bryant
I give Ryan Braun
My OFs are Bobby Abreu, Andre Eithier, Jonny Gomes, Curtis Granderson, and Ryan Braun
Do I accept it?? This is a multi sport league
I give Ryan Braun
My OFs are Bobby Abreu, Andre Eithier, Jonny Gomes, Curtis Granderson, and Ryan Braun
Do I accept it?? This is a multi sport league
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the moops
Footballguy
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
What's the rest of your team? I like it in dynasty leagues. Not in redrafts. It really depends who your alternatives are.'Timmypg said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I'd still rather have Crawford. Note I am not, and have never been, a big Jay Bruce fan. So I'm biased.'the moops said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I really have a poor sense of these multi sport leagues but I'd say take it.'sihaokills said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Take it. I'm not convinced they'll actually get around to moving Feliz into the rotation and closers are mostly overrated.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Hello my compadre. I think that is a splendid deal for you and I think you should take it. I hope you agree with me.
shadyridr
Footballguy
No way I trade Beltre hittin in the middle of that lineup in that ballpark for those 2
Finless
Footballguy
Hey, nice attitude adjustment
shadyridr
Footballguy
guess you didnt accept my apology earlier in this threadHey, nice attitude adjustment
Finless
Footballguy
Apology accepted. Now back to business.
Was offered Jerry Sands for Drew Storen in Dynasty. My closers:
Storen
Burnett
H Bell
K-Rod
Nathan - had he not lost his job I would probably jump own this. Does Gardy allow Nathan a shot to take his job back? I think he has to, no?
My outfielders:
Braun
Tabata
Rios
Cuddyer
Boesch - is he for real? I'm beginning to think so.
Rajai Davis
Garret Jones
Gutierrez
I like Sands' potential but I also think he has a high bust potential. If I knew that Nathan would get a shot or if he didn't lose his job I think I would have to roll the dice. If I make the trade worst case scenario is I lose 3-4 points in the saves categories. I have no prospects anymore. I've traded or they've been called up.
Thoughts?
Was offered Jerry Sands for Drew Storen in Dynasty. My closers:
Storen
Burnett
H Bell
K-Rod
Nathan - had he not lost his job I would probably jump own this. Does Gardy allow Nathan a shot to take his job back? I think he has to, no?
My outfielders:
Braun
Tabata
Rios
Cuddyer
Boesch - is he for real? I'm beginning to think so.
Rajai Davis
Garret Jones
Gutierrez
I like Sands' potential but I also think he has a high bust potential. If I knew that Nathan would get a shot or if he didn't lose his job I think I would have to roll the dice. If I make the trade worst case scenario is I lose 3-4 points in the saves categories. I have no prospects anymore. I've traded or they've been called up.
Thoughts?
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I'm not crazy about Sands but think you can afford to take that gamble. I'm pretty sure Nathan will get another chance if he keeps looking like he did in his last outing.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Al only, h2h points keeper... Buchholz for Crawford a fair deal? Not enough?
I have Weaver, Gio, Hellickson, Buch, Shields, Floyd, Morrow, Masterson at SP (start 4)
Baustisa, Cruz, Markakis, Quinton starting in the OF. Not happy with Kake, and I feel like I have plenty of SP depth.
Do I even want Crawford?
I have Weaver, Gio, Hellickson, Buch, Shields, Floyd, Morrow, Masterson at SP (start 4)
Baustisa, Cruz, Markakis, Quinton starting in the OF. Not happy with Kake, and I feel like I have plenty of SP depth.
Do I even want Crawford?
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
you give Clay Buchholz and get Carl Crawford? I'd accept that without any hesitation.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Whoa. Now I'd think it over. Details of the league again? Keeper, alternative players, etc?
the moops
Footballguy
12 team, 5x5 rotoMy pitching is good (Felix, Cain, Oswalt, and others).My OF is (start 3)Logan Morrison (DL)Corey Hart (DL)CrawfordNelson CruzSam FuldSeth SmithIf I took the deal, I would have to dump 3 players. That means Mark Reynolds, Seth Smith, and probably Arencibia (only have him cause V Mart is on the DL).Does Prado even offer much besides a good BA? I guess he will score 100 runs and have a 300 average though.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Absolutely. And I'm not very high on Crawford.You only start 4 SP and you have (by my count) 6, maybe 7, SP that are better than Buccholz. You could afford to ship out Buccholz for a hell of alot less than Crawford.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
What's your SB situation like? Is it a keeper league?This is a close call. If you can still finish in the top half of the league in steals without Crawford, I'd probably do it. If it's a keeper league, I think it makes it better too. This might be the last time that Jay Bruce can be had as part of a multi-player deal (where he's not the "one"). I think he's very legit.I like Prado alot. He's not exciting, but there's some pop to along with the runs and AVG.12 team, 5x5 rotoMy pitching is good (Felix, Cain, Oswalt, and others).My OF is (start 3)Logan Morrison (DL)Corey Hart (DL)CrawfordNelson CruzSam FuldSeth SmithIf I took the deal, I would have to dump 3 players. That means Mark Reynolds, Seth Smith, and probably Arencibia (only have him cause V Mart is on the DL).Does Prado even offer much besides a good BA? I guess he will score 100 runs and have a 300 average though.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Thanks for the replies Dr and Pollard. The offer was out there and the other guy thought about it but wound up turning it down. I'll probably have to include another player or draft pick. Trying to get 'er done.'Dr. Awesome said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Good deal for you if you can get it. And moops I'd take the deal.'shadyridr said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I would not.
Finless
Footballguy
It's till a 4 for 4 trade as you would have to drop 3 other players. I guess we'd have to see who you were dropping to give informed advice.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Good question. See post 74.
numberSE7EN
Footballguy
Trade Advice needed from you sharks:
12 team league, keep 5 (3 offense, 2 pitchers or visa versa).
Starting Positions: C,1B,2B,SS,3B,IF,OF X3, Util X2 and 3SP, 2RP, 3Ps
Counting Stats: R,2B,HR,RBI,SB,BB,AVG - W,L,SV,K,ERA,WHIP,K/BB
Trade offer:
A Pujols, D Beckham, R Madson, M Reynolds (give)
FOR
F Hernandez, J Heyward, D Uggla, F Freeman (receive)
I would be losing the best player in the game but adding the best pitcher in the game. Upgrading at 2B and OF, although I already have a decent OF (see my team below). League is full of old college friends and we are in year 7, I have been winning with an offensive game plan, but would not mind becoming a bit more balanced. Would you rather keep Pujols, Tulo, Wright, Greinke, Hanson or Tulo, Wright, Beltre/Cruz/Heyward, Felix, Hanson/Greinke? TIA!
My team (last years keepers in bold):
C: Miguel Montero
1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Gordon Beckham
3B: David Wright
SS: Troy Tulowitzki
IF: Adrian Beltre
OF: Nelson Cruz
OF: Colby Rasmus
OF: Jonny Gomes
Util: Chipper Jones
Util: Mark Reynolds
BN: Jason Kunel
BN: Delmon Young
BN: Jeff Francouer
SP: Zack Greinke [DL]
SP: Tommy Hanson
SP: Clay Bucholz
RP: John Axford
RP: Matt Capps
P: Jonny Venters
P: Ryan Madson
P: Brandon Beachy
BN: Brian Duensing
BN: Jordan Zimmerman
BN: Jeremy Kellickson
DL: Stephen Strasburg
12 team league, keep 5 (3 offense, 2 pitchers or visa versa).
Starting Positions: C,1B,2B,SS,3B,IF,OF X3, Util X2 and 3SP, 2RP, 3Ps
Counting Stats: R,2B,HR,RBI,SB,BB,AVG - W,L,SV,K,ERA,WHIP,K/BB
Trade offer:
A Pujols, D Beckham, R Madson, M Reynolds (give)
FOR
F Hernandez, J Heyward, D Uggla, F Freeman (receive)
I would be losing the best player in the game but adding the best pitcher in the game. Upgrading at 2B and OF, although I already have a decent OF (see my team below). League is full of old college friends and we are in year 7, I have been winning with an offensive game plan, but would not mind becoming a bit more balanced. Would you rather keep Pujols, Tulo, Wright, Greinke, Hanson or Tulo, Wright, Beltre/Cruz/Heyward, Felix, Hanson/Greinke? TIA!
My team (last years keepers in bold):
C: Miguel Montero
1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Gordon Beckham
3B: David Wright
SS: Troy Tulowitzki
IF: Adrian Beltre
OF: Nelson Cruz
OF: Colby Rasmus
OF: Jonny Gomes
Util: Chipper Jones
Util: Mark Reynolds
BN: Jason Kunel
BN: Delmon Young
BN: Jeff Francouer
SP: Zack Greinke [DL]
SP: Tommy Hanson
SP: Clay Bucholz
RP: John Axford
RP: Matt Capps
P: Jonny Venters
P: Ryan Madson
P: Brandon Beachy
BN: Brian Duensing
BN: Jordan Zimmerman
BN: Jeremy Kellickson
DL: Stephen Strasburg
pollardsvision
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Now that's a trade.I actually do like the idea of trading Pujols now in a keeper. Being a shallow keeper makes that more difficult, but I like the idea.
Nobody ever has the balls to trade away their stars when they are still at near-peak value, but it makes a ton of sense. Pujols will be 32 next year, so I think it does make sense to start planning an exit strategy.
Also love the idea of landing Heyward now. It will and should have to hurt to land him in a keeper.
Normally, I'm not a huge fan of building around elite pitching, but in a league set-up that requires you to keep 2, you're building around pitching whether you want to or not, so I guess it makes sense to have a stud there. I don't trust pitchers, but there probably isn't a better SP keeper than Felix.
As much as I like it, this would be one ballsy, risky move.
By doing this, you need Heyward to absolutely become everything we think he could become (this year) and you need Felix to thrive with whatever situation he lands in next (which is sure to be much more pressure and a worse pitcher's park).
The good news is that it's only a 5 player keeper and Pujols is getting older. Even if it blows up in your face, it certainly won't destroy you. You've got some great keeper options either way and will have plenty of good players to draft each year.
The upside, of course, is that you could have 2 top 5 picks for the next 10 years (Tulo/Heyward) and Felix.
I can't say if I'd do it or not, but I don't think you'd be crazy to.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
That could be a wide range, I think. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go for a struggling/injured late 1st round type bat (A-Gonz, CarGo, Hanley, Longo) all the way down to a top 50 type player (something in the Konerko, Heyward, Kinsler, CBY range). Outside of Pujols/Tulo/Miggy/Votto/Braun owners, I don't think you'd offend anyone with an offer for their best hitter. People view SP so differently, it's right to shoot for the stars, I think.
SuperAwesomeDude
Footballguy
have been offered straight lincecum for tulo in a 5x5 12 team roto. both unkeepable next year
c- rotation
1b-howard
2b- kinsler
ss- tulo
3b-a rod
of-heyward
of-victorino
of-torii hunter
of- delmon young
ut- kubel
ut- pierre
sp- carpenter
sp- j garcia
sp- pineda
sp- lilly
sp- peavy
p- feliz/league/thornton/oliver/motte/adams
c- rotation
1b-howard
2b- kinsler
ss- tulo
3b-a rod
of-heyward
of-victorino
of-torii hunter
of- delmon young
ut- kubel
ut- pierre
sp- carpenter
sp- j garcia
sp- pineda
sp- lilly
sp- peavy
p- feliz/league/thornton/oliver/motte/adams
pollardsvision
Footballguy
You're pitching staff might could use an upgrade, but I wouldn't consider trading Tulo for any pitcher by himself.If it were me (using your team), the bidding would start with Lincy plus a really solid OF (or maybe a stud C).
SuperAwesomeDude
Footballguy
Have a semi-offer of Weaver/Jeter but I'm still hesitant. I was also thinking maybe SP+Closer. also not exactly sure I'm ready to deal Tulo.
Not enough. And I don't think I would trade a top 5 player for a player who contributes to only one catagory (i.e. closer).
SuperAwesomeDude
Footballguy
cool beans. thanks
numberSE7EN
Footballguy
Don't forget about David Wright...I was thinking if I did the deal that I would keep:
Tulo, Wright, Heyward (with Cruz and Beltre as backups in case Heyward falters)
Felix, and then try to package Grienkie and Hanson for the #2 SP... question is who is the #2 SP, Kershaw?
Nigel
Footballguy
12 team 5x5 Roto, start 3 RPs and 5 SPs, 3 bench spots (curretnly occupied by Jackson, Gregg and Santos)
Starters:
Cain
Scherzer
Shields
D Hudson
Holland
E Jackson
D Braden (DL)
Relievers:
Marmol
Kimbrel
Walden
Gregg
Santos
If Santos sticks I've got 5 closers, with other owners looking for help. I'd like to upgrade one of my starter positions. What kind of a pitcher should I target with a Jackson/Walden package? Here are some guys rostered on teams looking for saves that I think might be reasonable to ask for:
J Sanchez
Danks
Latos
Morrow
Garza
Are these guys in the ballpark of what I should be asking for?
Starters:
Cain
Scherzer
Shields
D Hudson
Holland
E Jackson
D Braden (DL)
Relievers:
Marmol
Kimbrel
Walden
Gregg
Santos
If Santos sticks I've got 5 closers, with other owners looking for help. I'd like to upgrade one of my starter positions. What kind of a pitcher should I target with a Jackson/Walden package? Here are some guys rostered on teams looking for saves that I think might be reasonable to ask for:
J Sanchez
Danks
Latos
Morrow
Garza
Are these guys in the ballpark of what I should be asking for?
SuperAwesomeDude
Footballguy
sure, start w/ latos. id even offer gregg/jackson first
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
The only way I move Tulo is if someone gives me way, way, WAY more than they should. There are some players that come at a premium. Tulo is one of them.
I told the Tulo owner in my league to name his price. I'd give him Rollins/Weaver/Street/Russell Martin without thinking (his #1 catcher is Ianetta...in a 2 catcher league). He still turned it down.
I told the Tulo owner in my league to name his price. I'd give him Rollins/Weaver/Street/Russell Martin without thinking (his #1 catcher is Ianetta...in a 2 catcher league). He still turned it down.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
I was offered Jonny Gomes for Rajai Davis. Rajai is the guy who I was counting on for steals (the guys currently leading my team in that category are Herrera, D.Murphy, and Francoeur). Only guys on my team with more than 2HRs are Soriano and Francoeur (with Longoria and Hamilton on the DL). In other words, my team can use help in basically every category. I was planning on benching Austin Jackson when Davis got off the DL, but Gomes can work there too. Should I make that trade? TIA.
