Traded out of the first round (1 Viewer)

[boosh]

I traded the #4 pick overall to the owner who also has the #2 overall pick. (10 man redraft)

In return I recieved his pick #19, #22, #59 and #79 (He gets my last 3 picks of the draft to even out).

Well other owners are not too happy about it as it gives the #2 pick owner 2 of the top 4 players. I didn't want #4 and believe I can grab great value later on.

So am I a daredevil or #######?

 

[Ripleys]

Nope, sounds like you found a sucker to trade with and should reap the benefits.

 

[Instinctive]

Good solid move by you.

Not really lopsided.

Definitely not a cospiracy to tank your team and make his win.

I say it is 100% a legit move.

 

[bostonfred]

If you traded LaDainian Tomlinson and a couple scrub backups for Clinton Portis, Reggie Wayne, Marshawn Lynch and Donald Driver, would anyone think the Tomlinson guy got the better end of the trade?

 

[gianmarco]

Point them here: http://footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

They should be upset. It's so lopsided in your favor it's ridiculous.

 

[Instinctive]

Idk...if I could get SJax and MJD or Forte, I think it could turn out to be worth it for the other guy too, depending on his other picks.

 

[eric rymer]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

 

[boosh]

Point them here: http://footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

They should be upset. It's so lopsided in your favor it's ridiculous.

Yeah, that is what I used to pull the trigger on the trade. Sometomes these owners complain because they are not part of trades and feel left out.

 

[boosh]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Not yet, in 10 days.

 

[mbuehner]

Nuts to the rest of the league. When they start paying your entrance fee they can complain about your trades.

 

[TheFanatic]

This happened last year in a start up dynasty league I'm in. The guy had the second overall pick as well. Traded to get another pick in the first buy moving his 2nd and 3rd rounders and a 1st rounder the next year (this year) for like the 9th overall pick. Then he moved a couple picks to get back into the second round which included his first rounder in two years (next year now).

Everyone was pissed. I was trying not to laugh. The guy finished dead last in the league. His first three picks? LT, Tom Brady and MBIII. Now think about that team going forward as a dynasty team? Brady is great, but he has no backup QB as his other QB was Favre. LT doesn't have much value compared to where he was selected. Barber is nice but not great as long as Felix is there to take carries. His other RB's are Fargas, Felix, Sproles, K Watson and Ricky Williams. Sproles may be a nice player in a couple of years if he takes over as the starter. And his WR's are Branch, Crayton, Harrison, Randel El, and Roy Williams. He has Dallas Clark but that's it at TE. He might have a good year this year but he doesn't have much to build on, very little depth, and few resources to grow his team considering his two first rounders over the next two years are gone.

My only regret was that I wasn't at the end of the round to make that trade with him. But I picked first overall.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Depends on your roster.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Happens a lot, it nevers seems to work out for the guy who has the 2 High Picks... last yr a guy in my start up traded and had Picks #1 & 3, he took ADP & SJax; he missed the POs

 

[vikingdave]

you took the other guy to the cleaners...they should be pissed at him for stacking you with so many early picks...

in one of my redrafts that drafts this week a guy did this...he had the #3 pick and traded for the #4 pick, now he has those picks and a late 4th and two late 6ths...Im not slightly worried about his team, Im a little worried the other guy could be very good if he picks right...

 

[boosh]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Here is how it turned out. BTW QB heavy scoring.The owner w/ two 1st rounders got ADP and MJD at #2 and #4My picks multiples came in rd 2,3,6,8RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerSo I essentially trade MJD for A. Johnson, Jacobs, K. Smith and Cutler

 

[dagwood]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Here is how it turned out. BTW QB heavy scoring.The owner w/ two 1st rounders got ADP and MJD at #2 and #4My picks multiples came in rd 2,3,6,8RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerSo I essentially trade MJD for A. Johnson, Jacobs, K. Smith and Cutler

Nice Job....

 

[dagwood]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Here is how it turned out. BTW QB heavy scoring.The owner w/ two 1st rounders got ADP and MJD at #2 and #4My picks multiples came in rd 2,3,6,8RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerSo I essentially trade MJD for A. Johnson, Jacobs, K. Smith and Cutler

Nice Job....

 

[gianmarco]

Point them here: http://footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm

They should be upset. It's so lopsided in your favor it's ridiculous.

As I said......

 

[Arizona Ron]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

 

[jon_mx]

Idk...if I could get SJax and MJD or Forte, I think it could turn out to be worth it for the other guy too, depending on his other picks.

I think so to. The only thing is you are going to have to work the waiver wire really hard to fill in your WR's. Some years you can, and some years you can't. But having two workhorse studs at RB is an outstanding situation to be in.

 

[Ilov80s]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Here is how it turned out. BTW QB heavy scoring.The owner w/ two 1st rounders got ADP and MJD at #2 and #4My picks multiples came in rd 2,3,6,8RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerSo I essentially trade MJD for A. Johnson, Jacobs, K. Smith and Cutler

8 team league or are your fellow leaguemates really this bad? Portis in the 4th and KSmith in the 6th id criminal.

 

[TenTimes]

This year I verbally agreed to trade 1,06 and my 6th round to 1st overall pick for his 2nd and 3rd. I liked the deal for me obviously, and he liked ADP/Fitz, but I backed out at the last second for the sake of parity. Lame, I know. But I know most of these guys and it's a fun league, not cut throat.

I don't like to veto trades or tell people how to run their teams, but I would be a little upset at the advantage that guy gave you. It definitely skews the playing field. At the same time, I'd have just as much right as you to go after that trade, so in a sense I only have myself to blame for being left behind.

 

[dagwood]

This year I verbally agreed to trade 1,06 and my 6th round to 1st overall pick for his 2nd and 3rd. I liked the deal for me obviously, and he liked ADP/Fitz, but I backed out at the last second for the sake of parity. Lame, I know. But I know most of these guys and it's a fun league, not cut throat. I don't like to veto trades or tell people how to run their teams, but I would be a little upset at the advantage that guy gave you. It definitely skews the playing field. At the same time, I'd have just as much right as you to go after that trade, so in a sense I only have myself to blame for being left behind.

That makes no sense at all......that's like playing poker and folding with a four of a kind because you won 2 of the last three pots.....don't understand people who play the game but don't care about winning......

 

[dagwood]

nice deal for you. Have you drafted yet? I'm curious to see how it turned out.

Here is how it turned out. BTW QB heavy scoring.The owner w/ two 1st rounders got ADP and MJD at #2 and #4My picks multiples came in rd 2,3,6,8RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerSo I essentially trade MJD for A. Johnson, Jacobs, K. Smith and Cutler

8 team league or are your fellow leaguemates really this bad? Portis in the 4th and KSmith in the 6th id criminal.

I play in an 8 team league and Smith was gone before the sixth..... ....

 

[TenTimes]

This year I verbally agreed to trade 1,06 and my 6th round to 1st overall pick for his 2nd and 3rd. I liked the deal for me obviously, and he liked ADP/Fitz, but I backed out at the last second for the sake of parity. Lame, I know. But I know most of these guys and it's a fun league, not cut throat. I don't like to veto trades or tell people how to run their teams, but I would be a little upset at the advantage that guy gave you. It definitely skews the playing field. At the same time, I'd have just as much right as you to go after that trade, so in a sense I only have myself to blame for being left behind.

That makes no sense at all......that's like playing poker and folding with a four of a kind because you won 2 of the last three pots.....don't understand people who play the game but don't care about winning......

If Brian Westbrook fell to me in the 3rd round I wouldn't pass on him just because I got two steals in the 1st and 2nd. Your's is not the analogy I was going for. Mine is more like making a deal with a guy before a tournament where he gave me half of his chip stack to be garunteed pocked Kings on the first hand. It skews the playing field. This is a fun league, not cut throat or high stakes, so I would prefer everybody to start with the same chip stack and win that way.

 

[theplayer11]

So basically it was MJD for AJ, St. Smith, K. Smith and Cutler.. wow

 

[bucsbaby]

If MJD misses any kind of significant time...

 

[thatguy]

So.... How does the rest of your league feel about that deal now?

 

[dagwood]

This year I verbally agreed to trade 1,06 and my 6th round to 1st overall pick for his 2nd and 3rd. I liked the deal for me obviously, and he liked ADP/Fitz, but I backed out at the last second for the sake of parity. Lame, I know. But I know most of these guys and it's a fun league, not cut throat. I don't like to veto trades or tell people how to run their teams, but I would be a little upset at the advantage that guy gave you. It definitely skews the playing field. At the same time, I'd have just as much right as you to go after that trade, so in a sense I only have myself to blame for being left behind.

That makes no sense at all......that's like playing poker and folding with a four of a kind because you won 2 of the last three pots.....don't understand people who play the game but don't care about winning......

If Brian Westbrook fell to me in the 3rd round I wouldn't pass on him just because I got two steals in the 1st and 2nd. Your's is not the analogy I was going for. Mine is more like making a deal with a guy before a tournament where he gave me half of his chip stack to be garunteed pocked Kings on the first hand. It skews the playing field. This is a fun league, not cut throat or high stakes, so I would prefer everybody to start with the same chip stack and win that way.

Classic....I am not talking about cheating.....you passed on the deal because you thought it would help your team ruin the parity of the league...you chose not try to make your team better within the rules of the game.....Lol at your analogy.....the guy didn't trade his last three picks for the other guys first three picks...he made a legit trade....Like you said...you are free to play the way you want to play, I just don't understand that mentality....

 

[boosh]

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8 team league or are your fellow leaguemates really this bad? Portis in the 4th and KSmith in the 6th id criminal.

10 man league and yes there are 2 guys in there who are not very savy, but you have to know our scoring system is distance scoring 6,9 and 12 for all tds. 3 pt bonus for 100/300 yds. QB's go fairly quick. But yes 2 guys making bad picks defenitely helps.

 

[boosh]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

ADPMJDMcNabbBraylonC. HenryWittenFred TaylorBurleson

 

[thatguy]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

ADPMJDMcNabbBraylonC. HenryWittenFred TaylorBurleson

His WR's are brutal... But, if he can avoid injuries, and the stars align (Braylen regains his '07 form, Henry breaks out), he may have a decent season.

 

[switz]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

ADPMJDMcNabbBraylonC. HenryWittenFred TaylorBurleson

I certainly wouldn't be upset with that squad at all...In comparison to:RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerHow did Cutler fall that far???McNabb <> Warner/CutlerADP >> PortisMJD >>> BushEdwards << AJohnsonCHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)Is it TE required? Witten for him, none for you?Early on I think he has a slight advantage, not a ton though.... depends on the rest of the draft

 

[MCguidance]

I like the trade for both sides - provide he drafts well. But it definitely helps you - but you also need to draft well.

Our 12 team ppr redraft doesnt allow trading of picks - but I might consider seeing if people would want to do this for next year (just this year's draft picks, not the next years').

 

[TenTimes]

This year I verbally agreed to trade 1,06 and my 6th round to 1st overall pick for his 2nd and 3rd. I liked the deal for me obviously, and he liked ADP/Fitz, but I backed out at the last second for the sake of parity. Lame, I know. But I know most of these guys and it's a fun league, not cut throat.

I don't like to veto trades or tell people how to run their teams, but I would be a little upset at the advantage that guy gave you. It definitely skews the playing field. At the same time, I'd have just as much right as you to go after that trade, so in a sense I only have myself to blame for being left behind.

That makes no sense at all......that's like playing poker and folding with a four of a kind because you won 2 of the last three pots.....don't understand people who play the game but don't care about winning......

If Brian Westbrook fell to me in the 3rd round I wouldn't pass on him just because I got two steals in the 1st and 2nd. Your's is not the analogy I was going for. Mine is more like making a deal with a guy before a tournament where he gave me half of his chip stack to be garunteed pocked Kings on the first hand. It skews the playing field. This is a fun league, not cut throat or high stakes, so I would prefer everybody to start with the same chip stack and win that way.

Classic....I am not talking about cheating.....you passed on the deal because you thought it would help your team ruin the parity of the league...you chose not try to make your team better within the rules of the game.....Lol at your analogy.....the guy didn't trade his last three picks for the other guys first three picks...he made a legit trade....

Like you said...you are free to play the way you want to play, I just don't understand that mentality....

The guy got a 46% advantage. Although it was allowed, I would not consider it legit, more like theft. But more power to him for getting away with it, his team has a clear 3:2 advantage over the other teams to start the season and the other owners should be a little upset. I apoligize though, I was mistaken. In my example, the pick calculator actually shows I was at a 7% disadvantage So I can't compare my trade to the topic of this thread.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

CHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)

Wait, wut?

 

[CiscoKid]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

ADPMJDMcNabbBraylonC. HenryWittenFred TaylorBurleson

I certainly wouldn't be upset with that squad at all...In comparison to:RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerHow did Cutler fall that far???McNabb <> Warner/CutlerADP >> PortisMJD >>> BushEdwards << AJohnsonCHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)Is it TE required? Witten for him, none for you?Early on I think he has a slight advantage, not a ton though.... depends on the rest of the draft

I have Chris Henry in several leagues and love his potential, but to rank him even with Jennings right now is just plain nuts, IMHO. Ditto Burleson over Royal (and I'm pretty down on Denver as a whole...).

 

[Mene]

CHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)

Wow... now that is bold. Out of curiosity, what exactly do you project for these 4 players? Jennings is in most circles a top 12 wr, and Royal, especially in ppr format, looks to be golden. Even in non ppr, he's coming off a 91/900+yd season, and by default seems to be moving to the #1 spot in a presumeably pass first offense. Henry is a lot of potential, but over the #1 in one of the most explosive offenses in the league? And Burleson... people are still living off this guys one year in Minny. It seems like every year people expect him to be a sleeper, and he just disapoints again and again.

 

[Sinrman]

Shoot, I think that's a pretty nice deal for you. And hey, if he was cool with that, and likes having two of the top four players, then so be it. He'll have two studs, and then be hurting badly for depth... he better pray neither of his studs gets hurt or he's done.

 

[boosh]

How did the other guy's draft turn out?

ADPMJDMcNabbBraylonC. HenryWittenFred TaylorBurleson

I certainly wouldn't be upset with that squad at all...In comparison to:RD 2 - Jennings, A. JohnsonRd 3 - Jacobs, S. SmithRd 4 - Portis - shocked meRd 5 - BushRd 6 - Warner, K. SmithRd 7 - RoyalRd 8 - Avery-CutlerHow did Cutler fall that far???McNabb <> Warner/CutlerADP >> PortisMJD >>> BushEdwards << AJohnsonCHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)Is it TE required? Witten for him, none for you?Early on I think he has a slight advantage, not a ton though.... depends on the rest of the draft

Yes, TE required. I took Carlson and backed him up with Shockey later in the draft.

 

[Blick]

Great deal for you.

I just traded the first overall pick for picks 20 and 29. I like you, I'll have no first, two seconds, and two thirds. I thought that was a solid win for me, but nothing compared to what you got.

 

[massraider]

CHenry <> Jennings (based on my estimates)Burlson <> Royal (Burlson may get the edge due to QB)

Wait, wut?

And I like Burleson and Henry.