BassNBrew
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Hey now, let's not bring Young into the conversation.
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Travdogg's positional rankings from week 4 onward (2 Viewers)
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Hey now, let's not bring Young into the conversation.
I would very much disagree with McLaurin being a pure WR1, at least talent wise. I think he'd be a #2 WR on most NFL teams, and Washington just hasn't had better. I also think this isn't gonna be a vertical offense, and that this game was likely more Bengals specific. The guys I moved onto the list for McLaurin were Diontae Johnson and Rasheed Shaheed, and I think they both have more staying power, Johnson especially assuming Dalton holds the job going forward, and with Thielen going on IR. The guys I dropped McLaurin behind were Higgins (seemingly healthy and in a better passing offense) and Odunze (quietly had an even bigger game than McLaurin did, and Allen's status is a mystery. It is possible I'm being too slow to move Pittman off the list, I've been dropping him weekly, and one more dud and he's off the list.
As for Nabers, I don't think what he's done the last 2 games is sustainable. I think defenses will adjust, really Cleveland should be embarrassed that they made no effort to even slow Nabers down, treating him and Slayton like they were interchangeable. Bad day for Jim Schwartz. I don't think Daniel Jones can support a tier 1 WR, and I realize that I have Tyreek Hill in tier 1 with (for now at least) worse QB play than Daniel Jones, but I don't feel remotely ready to put Nabers on Hill's level talent wise.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Is Zamir white just dead? Chuba was dead after week 1
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I am sure there are people out there that believe in his talent still, however... I am not one of them. I have one last share left in dynasty and I am holding because I am not willing to admit my shortcomings and the TE position is a dumpster fire. I understand Darnell Mooney is a talented WR, but I am shocked he is getting targets over Pitts.
Everyone, including myself, said he is a top WR - he should be drafted as such. That pre-rookie draft drumbeat has changed for me. He is not a WR. He cannot create separation against DBs. His blocking isn't good enough to play inline and now we have a bonafide Keon Coleman at the TE position.
Looking back on my draft for this league in 2021 - I sold off a bunch of players for picks and ended up with Kyle Pitts, Najee Harris and Jaylen Waddle - woof. Not a great return... luckily, I don't remember the players I sold to make this dumpster fire come to life; meaning I have learned nothing and will probably do it all over again someday.
Thinking the beginning of the year, I wish I would have unloaded him when the Kirk Cousins hype was high and I could have garnered a decent return. Now I will probably hold him until he is just an ancillary throw-in piece to a larger deal.
He's honestly not even close. 14 targets through 3 weeks. Offense spreads it out, and QB runs at the GL. I'd be selling on him right now. No chance a 100% catch rate sustains nor a 1 TD every 7 targets rate.
I have Shakir more in line with someone like Quentin Johnston.
I mean, yeah kinda. Do the Raiders have a major difference their offense can make? Seems like, much like Chicago, all running the ball does is waste plays.
Colossal is pushing it. He's TE7 right now in standard leagues. He's outscoring all of Kincaid, LaPorta, Kelce, and McBride (if you don't count that fluke fumble TD) in that system.
He could have had 2 TDs on Sunday with better throws.
He should have never been the #4 overall pick (still think they should have gone Sewell there) but colossal bust is more like Zach Wilson.
I’m mean these are *your* rankings so don’t let me or anyone else change your mind, but the fact is Allen hasn’t really had to pass at all the past 2 games. Really low pass attempts translates to low targets for the WRs. But I think Allen’s passing #’s go up from here on out, and by default Shakir should be able to improve or at least maintain what he’s been getting. He’s the #17 ranked WR in my league and I see him finishing top 20 ROS.
Irving, Brooks, and Chubb are 3 guys I could see moving in at some point. Just need bigger roles and health.
I take issue with the bolded. I think Curtis Samuel getting healthy could cut in a bit, and I think Keon Coleman could cut in a ton, and potentially push for the #1 role, if a #1 role even exists in this offense. I think its also possible, that Buffalo just doesn't pass much. The defense looks amazing, and the offense isn't turning it over which led to a lot of the chase scripts last year.
I like Shakir just fine as a player, but I think if people are considering him a WR2 with WR1 upside, he's an easy sell in my eyes.
TampaMike19
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SeniorVBDStudent
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The bolded statement flies in the face of how Montgomery and Gibbs are used from game to game. At its core, the Lions O remains Monty / ASB driven.
If a player scores a TD every game, I'm not sure you can characterize him as being TD dependent....but that's just me.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
My Montgomery rant aside...the more general RB comments would be...
- while CMC is out, take him off the list (ditto Pacheco) and move Mason from T5 to T3.
- move Gibbs from T2 to T4
- move Walker from T4 to T3 and Monty from T5 to T3
- eliminate T4 (Walker up, the rest down)
- Singletary and Robinson up one tier
props for the lists!!
- while CMC is out, take him off the list (ditto Pacheco) and move Mason from T5 to T3.
- move Gibbs from T2 to T4
- move Walker from T4 to T3 and Monty from T5 to T3
- eliminate T4 (Walker up, the rest down)
- Singletary and Robinson up one tier
props for the lists!!
I think Gibbs has much more viability in a chasing script than Monty does. Whereas, in leading scripts, they seem similar to me.
I have a system when dealing with injured players where I don't zero them out, bit instead think, "replacement player+them for ROS" so for instance, its not CMC will be the 12th best fantasy RB going forward, its a replacement level guy+CMC will be so to speak. So if it appears I'm too high on guys that aren't playing for a bit, that would be my logic. A replacement player is someone I would deem as likely on waivers in an average league that week. Not say, Jordan Mason.
Conversely the same happens for a guy like Mason, or Charbonnet to a lesser extent, where they are likely top-10 options any week they are starting, but I treat them as waiver level guys whenever they aren't. So while I'd probably have Mason as a top-5 guy this week, NE matchup is nice, he also might be just a handcuff or even a cut (in smaller leagues) come bye weeks once CMC is back.
I am a little confused by your movement ideas. If Gibbs should go to tier 4, and then tier 4 should be eliminated with everyone but Walker moving down, and Singletary and Robinson (in tier 6 currently) should move up a tier, and you saying Gibbs and Singletary should be in the same tier?
