Travdogg's positional rankings from week 7 onward (3 Viewers)

[travdogg]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (2)
2. Josh Allen (1)
3. Jalen Hurts (5), tush push back on the menu, defense isn't dominating, and back-to-back 280-yard pass games, with 2 highest pass attempt weeks. Pretty schedule going forward.
4. Jayden Daniels (3)

Tier 2:
5. Patrick Mahomes (4)
6. Baker Mayfield (6)
7. Caleb Williams (7)
8. Justin Herbert (10), making high level plays each week, in leagues most pass heavy offense. Has been running more this year, though that didn't come up against Miami. High floor play.

Tier 3:
9. Drake Maye (11)
10. Dak Prescott (NR), currently QB4, and getting Lamb back. Only thing keeping him lower for me is lack of rushing, and troubling injury history. I do worry if his TD heater slows a little, but defense isn't suddenly gonna be good.
11. Brock Purdy (9)
12. Jared Goff (13)

Tier 4:
13. Justin Fields (8), QB13 despite 2 eggs. Upside is always 25+ plus points, but Wilson is banged up, and there is some talk of benching. Panthers/Bengals the next 2 weeks. If he lays eggs there, I expect a benching during the week 9 bye.
14. Bo Nix (14)
15. Jaxson Dart (15)

Dropped off: Jordan Love (12), take away the explosive game against Dallas, and he's been pretty average. 26 or fewer attempts in all but 2 games, and offense is run 1st inside the 10. Just not as much upside as you'd like to see. I actually think the Packers are overly conservative with him,

 

[travdogg]

RB
Tier 1:
1. Jonathan Taylor (1)
2. Bijan Robinson (2)
3. Christian McCaffrey (3)
4. De'Von Achane (6), I would really love to see what Achane would do if he played with a good OL. He had it as a rookie but was stuck behind career year Mostert. I've always kinda felt Achane is a top-5 RB talent. Not just a PPR scam. Fantasy wise, his PPR floor is still pristine, and he's been running a lot hotter with some big plays spiking other than against Carolina's suddenly really great run D.
5. Jahmyr Gibbs (5)

Tier 2:
6. Josh Jacobs (7)
7. James Cook (4), he has faced 2 of the better run defenses the last 2 weeks, but what happened to his receiving work? Like, I get Ty Johnson is a trusted pass game player, but its not like Cook isn't. 0 catches on 1 target in 2 weeks worries me a lot more than the TDs going away.
8. Ashton Jeanty (9)
9. Saquon Barkley (8)
10. Derrick Henry (10)

Tier 3:
11. Javonte Williams (11), just wanna highlight him, as he's my #1 buy low. Panthers run D is strong, down week, it happens to non-elite guys. That said, getting Lamb back means more room to run, due to less defensive attention. Also, Miles Sanders is out for the season, and Blue has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he'll be a bigger threat than Sanders was, which was none. Williams snap share the last 3 games is 71%, 77%, 86%. They REALLY don't trust Blue.
12. Kyren Williams (12)
13. Bucky Irving (13)

Tier 4:
14. Cam Skattebo (20), 72% of the work in Tracy's return. Frankly, I don't know that Tracy does anything better than Skattebo (besides run in a straight line against air) so I think 72% is pretty fair to expect going forward. I don't think it being Tracy's 1st week back from injury really mattered, Skattebo sets the tone for the offense. I might have him a tier higher if I liked the offense more.
15. Omarion Hampton (14)
16. Quinshon Judkins (15)
17. Jordan Mason (19)

Tier 5:
18. Travis Etienne (22)
19. Kenneth Walker (16)
20. D'Andre Swift (25), a little tricky here. Best week of the season also coincided with most sharing of the work. That's kinda always been how Swift has been in my opinion, a guy who gets overworked easily, but has a sweet spot. Perhaps Ben Johnson has found it. OL additions are starting to round into form too.
21. JK Dobbins (21)
22. Jaylen Warren (17), possible I'm overreacting due to it being his 1st game back from injury, but I have some concerns this could be a 3-man backfield, and Warren curiously took a huge backseat to Gainwell in the pass game. That's a substantial part of Warren's value.
23. Breece Hall (23)
24. Chase Brown (24)

Tier 6:
25. Chuba Hubbard (18), Rico Dowdle is tearing up. I do think think its important to keep a few things in mind though. For starters, Dowdle tore up 2 of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL. Hubbard just signed a big new deal with this HC/GM and was their best offensive player a season ago. Hubbard is a team captain and was playing better than Dowdle was the 1st 4 weeks. I think Dowdle has earned more work these last 2 weeks. I don't think he's taking Hubbard's job. Instead of having an every week starter, this looks more like it could be a 55-45 type split to me.
26. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (28)
27. Alvin Kamara (30)
28. TreVeyon Henderson (26)
29. David Montgomery (27)
30. Woody Marks (NR), disappointingly fell back behind Chubb last game, but post-bye rookie bump, and a schedule with 4 offenses that may make Houston chase are on the docket.

Dropped off: Tony Pollard (29), Spears played 60% of the snaps last week, and now the HC has been fired. I don't think Pollard lost the starting job, but RBBC in a bad offense that's always trailing isn't a great setup. Pollard's best chances are if he's traded, which I think he could be a candidate for.

 

[travdogg]

WR
Tier 1:
1. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (5), boy was firing Ryan Grubb the right call. Why was this guy being limited to low ADOT slot work? He's looking like Texans era DeAndre Hopkins, making huge downfield catches weekly, in addition to stacking volume. I 100% got this one wrong, having him outside the top-15 WRs in preseason.
2. Puka Nacua (1)
3. Amon-Ra St. Brown (2)
4. Ja'Marr Chase (3)
5. Justin Jefferson (4)

Tier 2:
6. Rome Odunze (11), he's making the leap. Coming off a down week, he's my #2 buy low. Had an impressive TD taken away on a ticky-tack call, and was open all game, just missed a couple times deep, which was probably rain related. Clear cut #1 with a gorgeous schedule coming up.
7. Drake London (8)
8. Nico Collins (7)
9. CeeDee Lamb (9)
10. Rashee Rice (12)

Tier 3:
11. Emeka Egbuka (10)
12. Brian Thomas (15)
13. Garrett Wilson (6), out at least the next 2 games. May have a different QB then, in a bit of a lost season. The garbage time will likely still be there when he comes back, but the consistency might decrease.
14. Davante Adams (13)
15. Tetairoa McMillan (14)
16. AJ Brown (16)

Tier 4:
17. George Pickens (22), has easily shown enough to not get lost in the shuffle with Lamb's return. The Higgins to Lamb's Chase (though slightly less upside for both, as Ferguson takes more than any 3rd Bengal did) he's probably getting 30+ million a year next offseason, if Dallas lets him walk based on this Lamb-less run.
18. DK Metcalf (18)
19. Deebo Samuel (17)
20. Jaylen Waddle (25)
21. Marvin Harrison (20)
22. Ladd McConkey (21)

Tier 5:
23. Quentin Johnston (23)
24. Courtland Sutton (24)
25. Zay Flowers (19), on 1 hand, Lamar coming back obviously helps, but on the other, I think the Buffalo game may have painted too rosy of a picture for a 3rd year breakout candidate. Lots of weapons in Baltimore, and while he's the best, the ceiling maybe isn't as high as hoped.
26. Chris Olave (26)
27. Tee Higgins (32)

Tier 6:
28. Michael Pittman (28)
29. Mike Evans (29)
30. Terry McLaurin (27), I think Deebo has passed him as the go-to guy in the pass game, and its not a pass game that just throws to 2 guys. Boom/bust WR3, but in an offense where booms happen.

Tier 7:
31. Jordan Addison (33)
32. Ricky Pearsall (34)
33. Stefon Diggs (NR), quiet game as other guys ate, but he also had a long catch taken away by the softest of OPI calls. Maye is ascending, and I like Diggs more than Boutte.
34. Xavier Worthy (36)
35. DeVonta Smith (30)

Tier 8:
36. Keenan Allen (NR), so I didn't put him on the list when he was hot, but now that he's cold he makes the list, what gives? Well, in my opinion, nothing has changed all season for Allen, he was just running hot, and now running cold, but his role is the same, and he'd been just missing the list. We'll see about Johnston's hammy, but between that and the OL issues I like Allen as the TD dependent WR3 I've always thought he was.
37. Wan'Dale Robinson (38)
38. Jameson Williams (39)
39. DJ Moore (31), worried about his injury, don't often see groin injuries leading to overnight hospital stays. But also, he's just not a big factor in the offense, he gets his 5 catches, most of which are around the LoS, and a coupe carries. Odunze has clearly blown by him for the #1 job, and if not for the cap issues, I almost wonder if he'd be a trade candidate.
40. Jakobi Meyers (35)

Dropped off: Travis Hunter (37), maybe he should just be a full-time CB if this is how he's gonna be used on offense. Parker Washington can do this. Explosive big play deep threat apparently means checkdown machine, and we just got mislead a little because of 1 awesome catch against KC. Sad to see. Chris Godwin (40), ranking on Tuesday strikes again. Honestly, I'm expecting Egbuka to be back before Godwin, and I think he just might be the WR version of Chubb upon return, where he can still catch and block, but the juice is just gone. You probably noticed I didn't ding Egbuka for his injury. I think he only misses 2 games at most, and I don't see any reason he's not the #1 upon return. Godwin might be done, McMillan is still in a neck brace, and 50-50 to play at all, and Evans is in year 12, and breaking down a bit. If people are selling Egbuka, I'm buying, and I'm not afraid to sell Evans if people are expecting monster numbers, especially if I have other solid WRs these next 2 weeks.

 

[travdogg]

TE
Tier 1:
1. Trey McBride (1)
2. Tyler Warren (2)
3. George Kittle (4), sounds like he should be back from his slow recovering hammy injury, and just in time as the WR room is decimated. Kittle likely jumps right back into #2 target role, because CMC is #1. Ideally, could get Purdy back too, as his TD and YPC numbers have spiked with Purdy.
4. Brock Bowers (3)

Tier 2:
5. Jake Ferguson (5)
6. Tucker Kraft (6)
7. Sam LaPorta (8), would love to see more targets (much like the guys he's sandwiched between) but he is clearly back to his healthy state he showed as a rookie, and in my opinion, has reclaimed his role as the #2 pass catcher in the offense. Lions also may need to pass more given DB room.

Tier 3:
8. Darren Waller (9)
9. Dallas Goedert (11)
10. Dalton Kincaid (7), I think there may be a tier 1 player in there, if they'd just give him the snaps. He's the best pass catcher they have, I really don't understand (when healthy of course) why he isn't featured more, especially when they said they build the pass game around him as an excuse after the Falcons loss. I'll believe it when I see it, but there is a top-3 ceiling here. The floor is always lava though.

Tier 4:
11. Harold Fannin (14), very impressive, and just missed having a much bigger game, as Gabriel just missed a TD to him. I think its 50-50 Njoku is traded at the deadline, and he's banged up right now. While it isn't winning, I am really enjoying the Browns mostly rookie offense and think more clearly not playing for this season teams could stand to do the same.
12. TJ Hockenson (10)
13. Hunter Henry (12)
14. Kyle Pitts (13)
15. Travis Kelce (15)

 

[Uncle Leo]

Good Read as Always. Thank You.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Thank you. I really enjoy this thread every week and greatly appreciate the effort you put in.

 

[Jewell]

Brock Bowers is an incredible talent, but I’d drop him from Tier 1.

Bowers is obviously limited due to his injuries, and now the Raiders are talking about shutting him down until after their bye (Week 8). There’s no guarantee that rest will fully resuscitate Bowers. This may just be an injury-riddled down season for him.

 

[FarFromHome]

Love the work buddy. Kelce is about done and the 25 pt games are prolly over. But. In a position where guys get you a smash week or a zero give me his 8-15 every week over about 10 of those guy ya got ranked higher.

 

[ShamrockPride]

What exactly does Darnold have to do to get on this list?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

10. Dak Prescott (NR), currently QB4, and getting Lamb back. Only thing keeping him lower for me is lack of rushing, and troubling injury history. I do worry if his TD heater slows a little, but defense isn't suddenly gonna be good.

QB2 in 6-point pass TD leagues.

His pattern has been to get hurt in even-numbered years and ball out (until the playoffs arrive) in odd-numbered years. So we may be safe here.

He'll be in shootouts against mediocre-to-bad teams and in catchup mode/garbage time against good teams and has three very talented guys as targets. What's not to like here?

 

[Donnybrook]

What exactly does Darnold have to do to get on this list?

Sam can't match the fantasy points that Brock Purdy has put up in his last 2 games.

 

[travdogg]

Brock Bowers is an incredible talent, but I’d drop him from Tier 1.

Bowers is obviously limited due to his injuries, and now the Raiders are talking about shutting him down until after their bye (Week 8). There’s no guarantee that rest will fully resuscitate Bowers. This may just be an injury-riddled down season for him.

You could be right. I'm gonna be stubborn just because maybe this rest does the trick, and they clearly have the need for him to be the guy. He has an upside the tier 2 guys just really don't given their target competition.

 

[Uncle Leo]

What exactly does Darnold have to do to get on this list?

Sam can't match the fantasy points that Brock Purdy has put up in his last 2 games.

Sam averages 6.5 rushing yards per game. You need to average at least 10 rushing yards per game to be considered by Trav.

 

[travdogg]

Love the work buddy. Kelce is about done and the 25 pt games are prolly over. But. In a position where guys get you a smash week or a zero give me his 8-15 every week over about 10 of those guy ya got ranked higher.

I think this 1st 6 games is pretty much his ceiling. I have a lot of concerns with Rice coming back, that Kelce's production takes a hit, as they work in the same areas. So, I don't feel like 8-15 every week is something I'm banking on. He can do it, not confident he will.

You really taking Kelce over the tier 2 guys?

 

[travdogg]

10. Dak Prescott (NR), currently QB4, and getting Lamb back. Only thing keeping him lower for me is lack of rushing, and troubling injury history. I do worry if his TD heater slows a little, but defense isn't suddenly gonna be good.

QB2 in 6-point pass TD leagues.

His pattern has been to get hurt in even-numbered years and ball out (until the playoffs arrive) in odd-numbered years. So we may be safe here.

He'll be in shootouts against mediocre-to-bad teams and in catchup mode/garbage time against good teams and has three very talented guys as targets. What's not to like here?

I don't put any stock at all into odd/even year narratives.

I will freely admit to having a bit of a rug pull history with Dak, where the second I start to really buy in, he falls off. I think 10 is fair, no issues if others have him higher. I want that rushing floor, and I hate counting on TDs. He's established a solid floor though. If he ran like he did pre-ankle injury, I'd have him right there with Mayfield.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I hope you are right about Omarion Hampton, but my fear is that he isn’t coming back until late in the season

 

[travdogg]

What exactly does Darnold have to do to get on this list?

Sam can't match the fantasy points that Brock Purdy has put up in his last 2 games.

Sam averages 6.5 rushing yards per game. You need to average at least 10 rushing yards per game to be considered by Trav.

I'm confused by the Darnold love. With Dak, I can see it, he's QB4 PPG. Darnold is QB19.

To answer the question, he does need to run more or throw more. He's had nice efficiency these last 2 weeks against really banged up secondaries, but yeah, needs more for me.

Since he was mentioned, I think Purdy>Darnold is an easy call. Both Purdy and Mac Jones are averaging more PPG than Darnold, and that's been mostly with a skeleton crew catching passes. Plus, that defense is now down Warner and Bosa. To me, Purdy and Dak are probably pretty interchangeable once Purdy is back.

 

[dblock05]

Darnold - QB12 in ppg?

 

[FarFromHome]

You really taking Kelce over the tier 2 guys?

For redraft purposes I'd put him ahead of Waller at 8. Kelce is no longer the heavy target guy. I think with Rice or without Rice his targets amount stay the same. I just feel with Rice his quality of targets improves. The position is such a crap shoot really. Imo

 

[Monkian]

Tier 6:
25. Chuba Hubbard (18), Rico Dowdle is tearing up. I do think think its important to keep a few things in mind though. For starters, Dowdle tore up 2 of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL. Hubbard just signed a big new deal with this HC/GM and was their best offensive player a season ago. Hubbard is a team captain and was playing better than Dowdle was the 1st 4 weeks. I think Dowdle has earned more work

Second place I've seen this. Chuba is not a team captain. He was a rotational captain for the September 28th game.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

You were bullish on CMC coming into the season despite his 'troubling injury history'...so I don't like that reasoning being applied to Dak who you've been bearish on for keeping him somewhat low.

Bucky...the reality is that he is small for a feature back. He is ruled out for Week 7, the Bucs have a Week 9 bye. From a writing on the wall standpoint, it's reasonable to conclude it might be Week 10 before we see him again. For a guy where close to 40% of the rest of the regular season might be off the table, 13 without comment feels high.

I think your point on Chuba is real. Whether he is or isn't a team captain, he is a team leader and a player the organization loves. The heydey of this organization was during the DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart period. With the exception of the Week 2 game against ARI...Bryce is averaging 28.8 pass attempts/game. Dowdle has averaged 32 touches these last two weeks. I think there is enough for both to be usable. At the same time; Dowdle should be ranked.

Now that I've followed these for awhile, I do think there are players that you struggle to reset on; good or bad. Garrett Wilson at #13 and George Pickens at #17 feels like one of those times. Pickens in particular behind T-Mac?

I know it's downstream from a rankings perspective, but Kyle Pitts > Travis Kelce feels off.

 

[Crash Davis]

I just want to say that I don't like your rankings primarily because you have guys I desperately need to break out ranked lower than would indicate that they will help my injury riddled team turn this disaster of a season around. Please rectify this next week. TIA.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Seeing JT as your RB1 makes me sick to my stomach. I had the opportunity to keep him for a 3rd but opted to keep Chase Brown for an 8th. I probably am 6-0 with JT on my team vs. the 3-3.

I mean who could have predicted the Colts to look as good as they have!?

 

[Gottabesweet]

@travdogg this helped me target Odunze. Thank You. Sent Deebo and Pitts/Coker for Odunze, Schultz, Spears in a short bench PPR league. Bonus for 40+

 

[travdogg]

I hope you are right about Omarion Hampton, but my fear is that he isn’t coming back until late in the season

Yeah, the news out of the Chargers hasn't been encouraging. I'm leaving him up that high, because I think he's a tier 2 guy when he's back, but yeah, that might be a longer than 4 game absence.

 

[travdogg]

You were bullish on CMC coming into the season despite his 'troubling injury history'...so I don't like that reasoning being applied to Dak who you've been bearish on for keeping him somewhat low.

Bucky...the reality is that he is small for a feature back. He is ruled out for Week 7, the Bucs have a Week 9 bye. From a writing on the wall standpoint, it's reasonable to conclude it might be Week 10 before we see him again. For a guy where close to 40% of the rest of the regular season might be off the table, 13 without comment feels high.

I think your point on Chuba is real. Whether he is or isn't a team captain, he is a team leader and a player the organization loves. The heydey of this organization was during the DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart period. With the exception of the Week 2 game against ARI...Bryce is averaging 28.8 pass attempts/game. Dowdle has averaged 32 touches these last two weeks. I think there is enough for both to be usable. At the same time; Dowdle should be ranked.

Now that I've followed these for awhile, I do think there are players that you struggle to reset on; good or bad. Garrett Wilson at #13 and George Pickens at #17 feels like one of those times. Pickens in particular behind T-Mac?

I know it's downstream from a rankings perspective, but Kyle Pitts > Travis Kelce feels off.

100% true, that I often am slow to adjust my priors, unless I see something that I just know I'm off on. For example, last season I had Barkley around RB7 going into the season, and after week 1, I instantly moved him to RB1, because it was instantly clear to me that he was gonna be a monster. But its usually incremental, like JSN has been this season.

Dowdle was my last omission this week. The Williams/Stewart model certainly has crossed my mind in regard to Hubbard/Dowdle.

You are correct that I probably shouldn't have even mentioned Dak's injury history. Its not playing a major role in his rank and was just said as another reason, to support not having him higher. Its more about the lack of running, and some concern about the TD heater he's on evening out a bit. I do pretty much view injuries as random, with few exceptions, and its inconsistent to that to bring it up as a supporting argument.

Bucky Irving is a borderline tier 1 player in my opinion. I think he could be a league winner when he's back. Timing of his injury stunk, he got 1 game with Wirfs back and scored 25. I do rank injured players as though you have a reasonable replacement level guy (like a last tier guy, or in Bucky's case in particular, Rachaad White) to start while this player is out, not on a how many points they'll score from now to the end of the year. So, I'll probably always have injured players higher than most, because I'm not treating them as zero until they are back. Having said that, if someone is say, 1-5 right now, its totally fair if they feel differently about currently hurt guys. In that regard, I sort of treat values through the lens of being .500, otherwise there are too many variables, as a 6-0 owner is gonna care a lot less about the next couple weeks than a 1-5 owner.

Pickens has moved up steadily, and I'd have had him ranked much higher on a weekly start basis while Lamb was out. But I do think he takes a clear backseat to Lamb. Maybe Wilson is too high, I don't know, he was WR5 until last week, and it wasn't fluky in my opinion as he was 3rd in the NFL in targets. Obviously, Dallas offense>Jets offense. I love McMillan. I think we're seeing close to his floor. He's just gonna get better, and he's the clear cut #1 on a team where (as hinted at about Chuba/Rico) defenses are gonna start playing the run a lot heavier.

Thanks for the detailed responses.

 

[travdogg]

You really taking Kelce over the tier 2 guys?

For redraft purposes I'd put him ahead of Waller at 8. Kelce is no longer the heavy target guy. I think with Rice or without Rice his targets amount stay the same. I just feel with Rice his quality of targets improves. The position is such a crap shoot really. Imo

Kelce isn't the HEAVY target guy he once was, but he is still 5th among TEs in targets this season, and only 3 out of 3rd.

Maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size with Rice, but Kelce's numbers since Rice became a full-time player (only 7 games) are scary:

6-83
5-28
5-44
3-16
3-34
1-5
4-30

Rice meanwhile during that stretch is:

7-72-1
9-91-1
6-57
5-127
7-103
5-75-1
12-110-1

To me, it seems like Kelce went from being a featured middle of the field target, to being more of a checkdown outlet. He also stopped getting redzone plays drawn up for him. Also worth noting that only those final 3 games had Worthy in them, and in my opinion, Worthy's presence causes even more overlap of Rice/Kelce.

If Rice were never coming back, I'd have had Kelce probably just behind LaPorta. But I think he's in that TD or bust bucket with Rice back, and less likely to get TDs than that Waller/Goedert/Kincaid group. I also don't think he has the volume upside Fannin has (and perhaps Fannin should have been a tier higher, he will be if Njoku is dealt) but I will agree there is a case for him over the 3 guys ranked ahead of him. That is the TD or bust bucket, and if I went to 20 TEs it would also include Mark Andrews, Zach Ertz, and maybe AJ Barner.

 

[Pietaster2]

Seeing JT as your RB1 makes me sick to my stomach. I had the opportunity to keep him for a 3rd but opted to keep Chase Brown for an 8th. I probably am 6-0 with JT on my team vs. the 3-3.

I mean who could have predicted the Colts to look as good as they have!?

As someone who passed JT in redraft for Chase Brown in the second round, I feel your pain. I think of this every time I hear "JT's" name spoken and it drives me crazy.

 

[FarFromHome]

You really taking Kelce over the tier 2 guys?

For redraft purposes I'd put him ahead of Waller at 8. Kelce is no longer the heavy target guy. I think with Rice or without Rice his targets amount stay the same. I just feel with Rice his quality of targets improves. The position is such a crap shoot really. Imo

Kelce isn't the HEAVY target guy he once was, but he is still 5th among TEs in targets this season, and only 3 out of 3rd.

Maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size with Rice, but Kelce's numbers since Rice became a full-time player (only 7 games) are scary:

6-83
5-28
5-44
3-16
3-34
1-5
4-30

Rice meanwhile during that stretch is:

7-72-1
9-91-1
6-57
5-127
7-103
5-75-1
12-110-1

To me, it seems like Kelce went from being a featured middle of the field target, to being more of a checkdown outlet. He also stopped getting redzone plays drawn up for him. Also worth noting that only those final 3 games had Worthy in them, and in my opinion, Worthy's presence causes even more overlap of Rice/Kelce.

If Rice were never coming back, I'd have had Kelce probably just behind LaPorta. But I think he's in that TD or bust bucket with Rice back, and less likely to get TDs than that Waller/Goedert/Kincaid group. I also don't think he has the volume upside Fannin has (and perhaps Fannin should have been a tier higher, he will be if Njoku is dealt) but I will agree there is a case for him over the 3 guys ranked ahead of him. That is the TD or bust bucket, and if I went to 20 TEs it would also include Mark Andrews, Zach Ertz, and maybe AJ Barner.

Solid post buddy

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Seeing JT as your RB1 makes me sick to my stomach. I had the opportunity to keep him for a 3rd but opted to keep Chase Brown for an 8th. I probably am 6-0 with JT on my team vs. the 3-3.

I mean who could have predicted the Colts to look as good as they have!?

As someone who passed JT in redraft for Chase Brown in the second round, I feel your pain. I think of this every time I hear "JT's" name spoken and it drives me crazy.

There's still time for him to turn things around. He looked more efficient on the ground last week, however losing touches to Perine sure hurts to see.

You can usually count on JT missing a handful of games too so perhaps that helps us feel a bit better down the road. Wishful thinking lol.

 

[TheWinz]

20. Jaylen Waddle (25)

Glad to see him moved up 5 spots. Since Tyreek came to MIA, he only missed 3 games. In those games, Waddle has 6/95, 6/110/1, and 8/142/1. Sure, only a 3 game sample, but his 8 & 9 targets over the last 2 weeks are his season highs, and should continue. Waddle is currently WR12, and that's with 4 games with Tyreek. He should remain a WR1 with the amount of targets he will be getting.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (2)
2. Josh Allen (1)
3. Jalen Hurts (5), tush push back on the menu, defense isn't dominating, and back-to-back 280-yard pass games, with 2 highest pass attempt weeks. Pretty schedule going forward.
4. Jayden Daniels (3)

Tier 2:
5. Patrick Mahomes (4)
6. Baker Mayfield (6)
7. Caleb Williams (7)
8. Justin Herbert (10), making high level plays each week, in leagues most pass heavy offense. Has been running more this year, though that didn't come up against Miami. High floor play.

Tier 3:
9. Drake Maye (11)
10. Dak Prescott (NR), currently QB4, and getting Lamb back. Only thing keeping him lower for me is lack of rushing, and troubling injury history. I do worry if his TD heater slows a little, but defense isn't suddenly gonna be good.
11. Brock Purdy (9)
12. Jared Goff (13)

Tier 4:
13. Justin Fields (8), QB13 despite 2 eggs. Upside is always 25+ plus points, but Wilson is banged up, and there is some talk of benching. Panthers/Bengals the next 2 weeks. If he lays eggs there, I expect a benching during the week 9 bye.
14. Bo Nix (14)
15. Jaxson Dart (15)

Dropped off: Jordan Love (12), take away the explosive game against Dallas, and he's been pretty average. 26 or fewer attempts in all but 2 games, and offense is run 1st inside the 10. Just not as much upside as you'd like to see. I actually think the Packers are overly conservative with him,

Patty Mahomes is the #1 player in fantasy (and REALITY) and has played without Rashee Rice for 6 games and Xavier Worthy for 3 games but he’s STILL ranked #4 on your list? ..

You lose major credibility with that considering Josh has had the weakest schedule amongst the great QB’s and has looked average at best and then Lamar hasn’t done anything to warrant being ahead of Mahomes.

I guess injuries only matters when it happens to other teams besides the Chiefs.

 

[fightingillini]

Seeing JT as your RB1 makes me sick to my stomach. I had the opportunity to keep him for a 3rd but opted to keep Chase Brown for an 8th. I probably am 6-0 with JT on my team vs. the 3-3.

I mean who could have predicted the Colts to look as good as they have!?

No one could have. But Taylor has elite RB skills, while Brown is a good RB, he isn't elite. But TBH, I would have kept Brown for an 8th if I had that choice. That screamed value at the time.

 

[fightingillini]

I hope you are right about Omarion Hampton, but my fear is that he isn’t coming back until late in the season

Yeah, the news out of the Chargers hasn't been encouraging. I'm leaving him up that high, because I think he's a tier 2 guy when he's back, but yeah, that might be a longer than 4 game absence.

The issue isn't actually when Hampton returns. It's that Hampton likely won't be the same player when he does. Ankle injuries are brutal for RBs. It killed Austin Ekeler's season 2 years ago.....he wasn't the same player all year.

 

[TheWinz]

Patty Mahomes is the #1 player in fantasy (and REALITY) and has played without Rashee Rice for 6 games and Xavier Worthy for 3 games but he’s STILL ranked #4 on your list? ..

You lose major credibility with that considering Josh has had the weakest schedule amongst the great QB’s and has looked average at best and then Lamar hasn’t done anything to warrant being ahead of Mahomes.

I guess injuries only matters when it happens to other teams besides the Chiefs.

Trav makes no bones about ranking the running QB's over the passers. It's likely why the top tier has only 4 QB's, and they are the 4 most known for their legs.

 

[Jewell]

I mean who could have predicted the Colts to look as good as they have!?

I certainly didn’t think that the Colts would be as good as they are, but Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren are on both of my fantasy teams and Daniel Jones is on one of them because I like to bargain shop from teams that are being undervalued and, to me, the Colts, particularly Jonathan Taylor, were being grossly undervalued during the offseason.

Anthony Richardson really was the problem. Dude simply wasn’t consistent enough to keep the Colts offense on track. I knew Daniel Jones would significantly improve the offense, but even in my wildest dreams I didn’t think the Colts offense would be this good.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Patty Mahomes is the #1 player in fantasy (and REALITY) and has played without Rashee Rice for 6 games and Xavier Worthy for 3 games but he’s STILL ranked #4 on your list? ..

You lose major credibility with that considering Josh has had the weakest schedule amongst the great QB’s and has looked average at best and then Lamar hasn’t done anything to warrant being ahead of Mahomes.

I guess injuries only matters when it happens to other teams besides the Chiefs.

Trav makes no bones about ranking the running QB's over the passers. It's likely why the top tier has only 4 QB's, and they are the 4 most known for their legs.

Lmao .. Isn’t Mahomes on pace for 1K rushing yards?

 

[travdogg]

Patty Mahomes is the #1 player in fantasy (and REALITY) and has played without Rashee Rice for 6 games and Xavier Worthy for 3 games but he’s STILL ranked #4 on your list? ..

You lose major credibility with that considering Josh has had the weakest schedule amongst the great QB’s and has looked average at best and then Lamar hasn’t done anything to warrant being ahead of Mahomes.

I guess injuries only matters when it happens to other teams besides the Chiefs.

Trav makes no bones about ranking the running QB's over the passers. It's likely why the top tier has only 4 QB's, and they are the 4 most known for their legs.

Yes, there's some of that at play. Mahomes has been a very active runner, but I think that is more because of missing Worthy/Rice rather than the gameplan. Mahomes is on pace for 600-11 on the ground, and that is 250 yards and 7 TDs more than he's ever had. If that rushing stays with Rice/Worthy back, he'll be in the top-2 really quick.

Lamar averaged 27.56 PPG before he got hurt. He was actually scoring at a higher pace than his 2024, and just under his historically great 2019. Maybe he'll be less of a runner due to his hammy, but I don't know, feels like the Ravens NEED him to make plays more than ever.

In Allen's case, I kinda throw out the Jets game in week 2, where he broke his nose and they basically took the ball out of his hands afterwards. Without that down game, he's outscoring Mahomes. I also think that Bills defense is gonna have them on the backfoot a lot going forward.

 

[travdogg]

@travdogg this helped me target Odunze. Thank You. Sent Deebo and Pitts/Coker for Odunze, Schultz, Spears in a short bench PPR league. Bonus for 40+

Love that deal for you. Best player, and maybe 3rd best too in Spears, especially if Pollard gets dealt, which feels like a strong possibility.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Patty Mahomes is the #1 player in fantasy (and REALITY) and has played without Rashee Rice for 6 games and Xavier Worthy for 3 games but he’s STILL ranked #4 on your list? ..

You lose major credibility with that considering Josh has had the weakest schedule amongst the great QB’s and has looked average at best and then Lamar hasn’t done anything to warrant being ahead of Mahomes.

I guess injuries only matters when it happens to other teams besides the Chiefs.

Trav makes no bones about ranking the running QB's over the passers. It's likely why the top tier has only 4 QB's, and they are the 4 most known for their legs.

Yes, there's some of that at play. Mahomes has been a very active runner, but I think that is more because of missing Worthy/Rice rather than the gameplan. Mahomes is on pace for 600-11 on the ground, and that is 250 yards and 7 TDs more than he's ever had. If that rushing stays with Rice/Worthy back, he'll be in the top-2 really quick.

Lamar averaged 27.56 PPG before he got hurt. He was actually scoring at a higher pace than his 2024, and just under his historically great 2019. Maybe he'll be less of a runner due to his hammy, but I don't know, feels like the Ravens NEED him to make plays more than ever.

In Allen's case, I kinda throw out the Jets game in week 2, where he broke his nose and they basically took the ball out of his hands afterwards. Without that down game, he's outscoring Mahomes. I also think that Bills defense is gonna have them on the backfoot a lot going forward.

It’s incredible how you move the goalpost for the other two while Mahomes has to stay in place ..