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Travdogg's top-150 (2 Viewers)

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When the regular season starts, I'll go back to the positional rankings, and have them listed in parenthesis here, but I figured with it being draft season, I'd try a top-150. I have notes for new additions, but unless there is a big movement from my July ranks, I'll just have the ranking for some players. To appeal to the broadest range of leagues, this is half PPR, 4 pt pass TD.

1. Christian McCaffrey (RB1), I'm not hedging anymore. Everything is going his way right now. 49ers WRs have question marks, his own backups are hurt, he's healthy, and the 49ers play the NFL's easiest projected schedule. His ceiling is SO MUCH higher than anyone else's. 2,000+ yards, 20+ TD's, and 100+ catches. Nobody else offers that potential.

2. Saquon Barkley (RB2)

3. CeeDee Lamb (WR1)

4. Justin Jefferson (WR2)

5. Ja'Marr Chase (WR3)

6. Nico Collins (WR4)

7. Bijan Robinson (RB3)

8. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB4)

9. Puka Nacua (WR5)

10. Brian Thomas (WR6)

11. Derrick Henry (RB5)

12. AJ Brown (WR7), its just so unlikely the Eagles (or any team) as run heavy as they were last season. Brown was on a pace for 85-1364-9 season on 122 targets, which feels likely to go back up. Also has proven contingent upside should something happen to Smith/Goedert. Philly just consolidates.

13. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR8)

14. Drake London (WR9)

15. Trey McBride (TE1)

16. De'Von Achane (RB6)

17. Malik Nabers (WR10)

18. Brock Bowers (TE2)

19. Bucky Irving (RB7)

20. Ashton Jeanty (RB8), love the player, but have concerns that Raiders will spend most of the season playing from behind, and while Jeanty is a good receiver, he's not an Achane type who can make a living off it. He's been dropping in most ranks, I believe for that reason.

21. George Kittle (TE3)

22. Josh Allen (QB1)

23. Lamar Jackson (QB2)

24. Josh Jacobs (RB9)

25. Tee Higgins (WR11)

26. Garrett Wilson (WR12)

27. Kenneth Walker (RB10)

28. Kyren Williams (RB11)

29. Chase Brown (RB12)

30. Jayden Daniels (QB3)

31. Davante Adams (WR13), will be seeing the most favorable coverage he's had in close to a decade, and has top-5 upside should something happen to Puka, as arguably nobody schemes up WRs better than McVay.

32. Terry McLaurin (WR14)

33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.

34. Jalen Hurts (QB4)

35. James Cook (RB14)

36. Rashee Rice (WR15)

37. Marvin Harrison (WR16)

38. Ladd McConkey (WR17), been driving the bandwagon since Georgia on him as a player, but I think the Allen addition hurts, and the Slater injury hurts everyone on the Chargers.

39. Omarion Hampton (RB15)

40. RJ Harvey (RB16), despite Payton depth chart silliness, worked as the starter in 1st preseason game. Of note, Payton has drafted 3 RBs in the first 3 rounds in his career (Bush, Ingram, Kamara) and all were heavily involved as rookies (though Ingram got hurt)

41. Mike Evans (WR18), still very confident in him, just feel he has less upside than others due to target competition/Bucs regression.

42. Tyreek Hill (WR19)

43. Alvin Kamara (RB17), want to be higher, but Saints look like #1 pick contenders. Will he be as active in the pass game under Moore, who had career low pass game usage from Barkley/Ekeler?

44. DJ Moore (WR20)

45. Joe Burrow (QB5)

46. D'Andre Swift (RB18), I hate this ranking so much. I think Swift is ideally a #2 RB, not just for fantasy, but for an NFL team, but the Bears have nobody else of real note, and the OL could be top-3 in the NFL. Swift's most efficient season was with Ben Johnson.

47. Jameson Williams (WR21)

48. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR22)

49. Travis Hunter (WR23)

50. Tetairoa McMillan (WR24)

51. Patrick Mahomes (QB6)

52. James Conner (RB19)

53. TJ Hockenson (TE4)

54. DK Metcalf (WR25), still not a guy I'm excited about, but in some ways he's the WR version of Swift, where, who else is gonna do it?

55. Jaylen Waddle (WR26)

56. Devonta Smith (WR27)

57. Chuba Hubbard (RB20)

58. Chris Olave (WR28)

59. Zay Flowers (WR29)

60. Xavier Worthy (WR30)

61. Stefon Diggs (WR31), getting a little higher on the Patriots offense, and he's looking very likely to be good for week 1. Very little proven target competition, and Diggs has always had a chip on his shoulder. He's likely to play out wide where he is better (.93 YPRR) than the slot where he was in Houston.

62. Aaron Jones (RB21), just really like the Vikings offense, his role will be smaller than last season, but the Vikings offensive pie should be bigger, especially after massive OL upgrades.

63. Calvin Ridley (WR32), clear cut #1, and already seems to have a rapport with Ward.

64. Courtland Sutton (WR33)

65. Deebo Samuel (WR34)

66. David Montgomery (RB22), I kinda want to be lower on him, but then I keep thinking about his contingent upside if Gibbs goes down.

67. Jakobi Meyers (WR35)

68. George Pickens (WR36)

69. Sam LaPorta (TE5)

70. Rome Odunze (WR37), not 100% sure of his fit in Johnson's offense, but don't mind betting on a 2nd year top-10 pick. It seems like Burden is pretty much a non-threat for now.

71. David Njoku (TE6)

72. Baker Mayfield (QB7)

73. Jerry Jeudy (WR38)

74. Jauan Jennings (WR39)

75. Jordan Mason (RB23), huge fan of his talent, and think he and Jones can co-exist, and both have contingent upside.

76. Jaylen Warren (RB24), just feel like he's gonna catch a lot of passes, like maybe make a run at 80 catches. He had 61 2 years ago, and likely plays more snaps than he did then.

77. Jordan Addison (WR40), less about the suspension, and more than I think Hockenson is better. Addison has had some luck with Jefferson missing much of 2023, and Hockenson missing much of 2024.

78. Ricky Pearsall (WR41), had 14-210-2 his last 2 games last year, and should see a bigger role in year 2. Aiyuk's timetable is unknown, and while I never thought Pearsall was a 1st round talent (blew my mind at the time he went ahead of McConkey) he's not untalented.

79. Matthew Golden (WR42), I don't know if the Packers want to be a spread the wealth team, or just have been because they haven't had a good WR since Adams left? Golden is an interesting prospect, who feels in the Brandin Cooks mold to me. Has a great shot to be the #1 in GB, but its also possible they just don't have a #1. Solid WR4 flier to me.

80. TreVeyon Henderson (RB25), I don't dislike the guy, but reading through his player thread, I'm much lower on him than the people who love him. I don't think he's anywhere near the explosive player guys like Charles and Gibbs are/were. I could see poor man's Gibbs in a worse offense, which is still very useful as an RB3.

81. Chris Godwin (WR43), its possible I'm being too generous given he's sounding less and less likely to even be playing week 1, but its tough to completely ignore that he was WR2 overall before his injury last season, and has overcome injury in the past.

82. Tony Pollard (RB26)

83. Justin Fields (QB8)

84. Breece Hall (RB27), feels like a RBBC, with a QB who doesn't checkdown much, and runs. Hall will likely be more effective this year, but his volume could really disappoint. Clearly, I'll have zero shares. Outside chance he's a trade candidate.

85. Isiah Pacheco (RB28)

86. Brock Purdy (QB9)

87. Dalton Kincaid (TE7)

88. Tucker Kraft (TE8)

89. Tyrone Tracy (RB29), I think Skattebo is the better player long-term, but he's got a hamstring injury, and Tracy should be able to hold him off for a while because of it. Russell Wilson has also gotten much more checkdown heavy as his mobility has waned.

90. Emeka Egbuka (WR44), its entirely possible he just blows past Godwin, but I hesitate to predict it, as Godwin has been really great as recently as last season. Still, both he and Evans have struggled to stay on the field at times, and I don't see TB using the TE much, so Egbuka is looking at 60+ catches with contingent upside for more.

91. Travis Kelce (TE9)

92. Joe Mixon (RB30), I feel pretty comfortable calling him the Texans guy when he's healthy, but he doesn't sound healthy at all right now. At a certain point though, I think the trigger must be pulled on a guy who was a top-10 RB a year ago.

93. Darnell Mooney (WR45), was neck and neck with London until Cousins was benched, then he got hurt, and London blew up with Penix. Mooney is a bit of a wildcard to me. Also currently a little banged up.

94. Trevor Lawrence (QB10)

95. Rhamondre Stevenson (RB31), was a pretty solid RB, until falling off last season. Its possible that was more about the OL than anything else, but the Henderson addition craters any ceiling Stevenson had. At this point, I think you are hoping for a poor man's Gibbs/Monty situation.

96. Brian Robinson (RB32), was RB14 before October injury, but can't help but feel like Washington would like to use him less. I think this could fall into a pretty big RBBC this season.

97. Khalil Shakir (WR46), positives are nice new deal, and nobody has pushed him out of #1 role yet, negatives are already hurt, and has sizeable splits when Bills are winning/losing.

98. JJ McCarthy (QB11)

99. Colston Loveland (TE10)

100. Kaleb Johnson (RB33), I do expect him to see about 45% of the work in Pittsburgh, and maybe he'll take the Najee if things break right, but I trust Warren a lot more. If you are high on the Steelers offense (why would you be?) its not hard to get both.
 
101. Jared Goff (QB12), not a ton of upside due to lack of rushing, but he has arguably the best weapons of anyone in the NFL. Could miss Ben Johnson a lot, but maybe we've been overrating how much is Johnson respnsibel for?

102. Evan Engram (TE11)

103. Mark Andrews (TE12)

104. Kyler Murray (QB13)

105. Justin Herbert (QB14), I think getting Keenan Allen back should help, and while losing Slater hurts, that probably effects the run game more than the pass game. I just trust Herbert as a talent a little more than the QBs just after him.

106. Javonte Williams (RB34), he's never looked the same post knee injury, but Dallas is talking like he's the clear #1 (for now) and he has become a very useful player in the pass game. Its a hold your nose pick, but its also a starting RB available 10 rounds in, on an offense that can do things.

107. Caleb Williams (QB15)

108. Bo Nix (QB16)

109. Tyler Warren (TE13)

110. Cam Skattebo (RB35), probably would have been ahead of Tracy before the hammy injury. Big fan of his talent (I liked him more than Judkins as a prospect) and opportunity is there for the taking eventually. Not hard to lock up both Giants RBs, though much like Steelers, how valuable is that?

111. Cooper Kupp (WR47), hate the situation leaving Stafford/McVay, but he was still solid for stretches last season, and not really any competition for #2 spot in Seattle.

112. Dallas Goedert (TE14)

113. Jordan Love (QB17), glass half full version, Love was never really healthy last season and looked like the next big thing down the stretch in 2023. Glass half empty, Love is 27 in November, and has half a season of good play in his career.

114. Travis Etienne (RB36), I've always kinda expected him to be the Jags nominal starter. He's not that far removed from being a top-10 RB, and he's the most talented of the group in my eyes, he was just hurt last season. Not that I think this won't be a heavy RBBC, but I expect he'll stay at the top.

115. CJ Stroud (QB18), OL issues were likely unfixed, but maybe playcalling is better. Team may be more pass heavy with RB issues, and WR room should have better durability luck this year. Wish he'd run more, as he's not immobile.

116. Marvin Mims (WR48), has shown himself to be a playmaker, now its about consistency. Could be a classic 3rd year breakout guy, especially if the run game doesn't take off like expected, or one of Sutton or Engram fall short of expectations. Seems to have clearly established himself as the WR2 at the very least.

117. Josh Downs (WR49), like his talent a ton, hate his situation. Hopefully Jones wins the QB job for him, as he's shown a ton more ability to complete passes in the intermediate areas than Richardson has.

118. Tank Bigsby (RB37), if any Jags RB takes off, I think it'll be him, but he's gotta stop fumbling, and he offers next to nothing in the passing game. I think he's their best rusher though. Very boom/bust.

119. Dylan Sampson (RB38), back in February, I said if there is a Bucky Irving in this class, its Sampson. Now Cleveland was an undesirable landing spot, and he went 2 rounds later than Judkins (I think Sampson is a better prospect) and if/when Judkins gets sorted out, the Browns may force the issue, but until then, and if that doesn't happen, Sampson certainly strikes me as a low-risk dart throw.

120. Jayden Blue (RB39), really wasn't impressed by him as a prospect, but its not an impressive RB room in Dallas, and he probably has the most upside.

121. Nick Chubb (RB40), talk has been that the burst is gone, but he's still got power, and Mixon is already banged up. I think very little of Marks, and the Texans for whatever reason are loathe to give Pierce a fair shake, so Chubb feels like a worthwhile pick, even if the 2022 version is long gone.

122. Michael Pittman (WR50), only a year removed from over 100 catches. Like Taylor, I think he's a sneaky trade deadline candidate. Probably a bit of whack a mole between Pittman, Downs and Warren most weeks.

123. Jake Ferguson (TE15), newly extended, but his 2023 role seems gone with the Pickens addition. Still, perhaps he gets a TD spike with teams focusing more on the Cowboys WRs down there, especially if the run game doesn't show up.

124. Jerome Ford (RB41), unlikely to fall out of the offense, Ford has shown some pass catching chops, and some big play ability. I've probably got him and Sampson slightly low if Judkins doesn't play at all, but I'm suspecting he's back at some point.

125. Tyjae Spears (RB42), injury only knocks him slightly for me, as I don't expect it to be a long-term thing where he misses half the season. Might be a slow starter ala Jaylen Warren a year ago. I expect Spears to get like 40% of the work when healthy.
 
126. Roschon Johnson (RB43), hasn't impressed me at all, but Swift is a bottom of the barrel starter, and the Bears OL is great. Worth a flier I guess.

127. Michael Penix (QB19), has always given me a Jameis Winston vibe as a fearless gunslinger who will make some head scratching decisions. He's got a few good weapons, and has underrated mobility if he chooses to use it. I'd rather shoot for a young guy with some upside over your boring vet who you know won't blow up as a backup/QBBC drafter.

128. Braelon Allen (RB44), was better than his YPC says he was in my eyes. Fun fact, he was the best short yardage RB in the NFL last season converting 11 of 12 carries when 1 yard was needed. I'm sure Aaron Glenn knows that, and I expect Allen to get GL work, and probably see at least 25% of the non-GL carries.

129. Quinshon Judkins (RB45), at a certain point I feel like he's worth a shot just in case all this off field stuff gets wrapped up soon. He's the guy the Browns clearly wanted, and while its likely a RBBC anyways, at this point, that's what everyone is, that or handcuffs.

130. Bhayshul Tuten (RB46), kinda strikes me as this year's Jaylen Wright, where people see the size/speed and get a bit too excited. Entirely possible he gets 30% of the work, but hard to see him as more than a COP guy, without injuries or trade.

131. Christian Kirk (WR51), I know people want to jump to Jayden Higgins being the #2, but that may not happen this season. Kirk is a proven vet, who wins from the slot, and new OC Nick Caley learned under Belichick and McVay, so Kirk's role could be bigger than expected, even if the ceiling isn't really there.

132. Brandon Aiyuk (WR52), basically a lock to be PUP, and no lock to be back by Halloween. Still, could be a huge factor down the stretch, and #1 WR job in SF could (should?) absolutely be his once he gets comfortable.

133. JK Dobbins (RB47), very impressive comeback season as he was 10th in rushing yards per game last season. That being said, that was more volume related than anything else, and I expect Harvey to win this job pretty cleanly. Still, Dobbins should see 35% of the work, and is an injury away from RB2 value. I'd go higher than this if I already drafted Harvey.

134. Chig Okonkwo (TE16), came on down the stretch last year, 4th in points in the fantasy playoffs, and has been talked about as being more of a full time player this season, which is big as snaps have been his biggest issue to date. Also gets a (potentially huge) QB upgrade.

135. Zach Charbonnet (RB48), he's no threat to Walker's job. I don't know why anyone thinks he is. Its been a very clear starter/backup split when Walker is healthy under 2 different staffs. Now what Charbonnet is, is a 3-down handcuff, and that has its value. To me, this reminds me a bit of Cook/Mattison from a few years ago, where Mattison was an autostart whenever Cook went down, but was just a handcuff otherwise. I'd go higher than this if I had already drafted Walker.

136. Demario Douglas (WR53), while I think Kyle Williams will be the #2 eventually, Douglas feels pretty secure in that job for now. Josh McDaniels offenses have always gotten the most out of slot WRs, and every indication is that Douglas has the job, with Diggs going back out wide. Low ceiling, but perhaps an underrated PPR-based floor.

137. Keon Coleman (WR54), if any WR in Buffalo greatly exceeds expectations, my money is on Coleman. He was just starting to come on a bit before his wrist injury with a 2 week stretch of 4-125 and 5-70-1. Coleman had the 5th highest ADOT of any WR in the NFL last season, so he's certainly capable of some pop weeks. Other than Shakir, nobody in this pass game is truly established, even if my money is on Kincaid, Coleman feels like a worthy cheap flier.

138. Trey Benson (RB49), I've never been a huge Benson fan, but Conner misses time every year (unlucky for Benson he was also hurt when it happened last year) and they have a day 2 pick invested, so maybe he gets a chance.

139. Isaiah Davis (RB50), played with the 1st team in the 1st preseason game, and it feels like a RBBC is happening. Outside chance Hall gets traded at some point, as there has been zero extension talk.

140. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (RB51), I think he is the guy (and not Ekeler) who would step up if something happened to Robinson, and this is an offense that could be elite, they settled for a lot of FGs last year, that could turn into TDs. Fun flier.

141. Hollywood Brown (WR55), might be low if Rice's suspension is longer than expected (I'm thinking 2-4 games, lower than it should be in my eyes) but Brown hasn't been able to stay on the field since his Ravens days. Still, maybe he surprises and stays healthy, and I am expecting KC to have a chip on their shoulder a bit after how last season ended.

142. Najee Harris (RB52), obviously this eye injury is WAY worse than they said it was a month ago. At this point talk is week 1 isn't a lock. That said, assuming he's not partially blind or something drastic, it'd be a shock if he didn't see at least 30% of the work, likely pass down stuff, and is an injury away from a workload not unlike his traditional Steelers workload. Might go higher if I had Hampton.

143. Wan'Dale Robinson (WR56), the argument against PPR leagues, Robinson had 93 almost entirely useless catches last season. He's basically an extension of the run game, as 108 of his 140 targets were under 10 yards.

144. Tyler Allgeier (RB53), he should be starting somewhere. I'm impressed every time I watch him, but unfortunately he's stuck behind an elite player. I think he's the player some people think Charbonnet is. Went 18-105-1 the one game Robinson was knocked out of. I'd go much higher if I drafted Bijan, but he's full handcuff/injury play.

145. Rashid Shaheed (WR57), I think he ran exceptionally hot last year with big plays, and I don't wanna bet on that again, given the knee injury and QB downgrade. Still, he'll pop here and there I'm sure, and has the clear #2 role locked up, in an offense that likely doesn't feature the TE, even if it is bad.

146. Jayden Reed (WR58), I'm actually often impressed by his play, but its clear Matt LaFleur isn't. Reed has had every chance to run away with the #1 job in GB and hasn't done it. He's been extremely boom bust, being both big play and TD dependent, while never playing outside of 3-WR sets, even when multiple WRs have been out, and now they added a 1st round WR. Also he's already banged up.

147. Keaton Mitchell (RB54), has a ton of big play ability, and the Ravens could stand to lessen the load on Henry. Unfortunately he's already banged up, but he's an interesting flier, that I think assuming the injury isn't serious, is more likely to be the starter than Hill (who seems pass work only) if Henry went down.

148. Drake Maye (QB20), could exceed this ranking if he runs as much as he did last season. I would think McDaniels would want to curb that, but that's just a gut feeling, not anything that's been said. Maye was above QB18 in every game he started and finished last season, but I also think the Patriots run game and defense will be vastly improved.

149. Ray Davis (RB55), I 99% think James Cook shows up for week 1. I also think Ty Johnson is the 3rd down RB regardless. So Davis path to fantasy goodness is a Cook injury. I like Davis, and I think he's a nicer dynasty option, but I think he's handcuff only, and even then, not a priority one.

150. Jayden Higgins (WR59), probably needs an injury to have value this season. Of course, neither Nico Collins nor Christian Kirk have been great about staying on the field. I don't think he's as good an athlete as he tested, I think he's less Nico Collins and more Michael Pittman, but I don't dislike him. Better dynasty than redraft I think.
 
I am in on CMC as RB1. You're right. He does the most when 100% - and he should be rested. But I also think Barkley at RB2 ignores a pretty significant trend relating to RB workload AND the off-season being a month shorter (for SB teams) that bore itself out most recently last year with CMC. My guess is you're simply saying 'F injuries'.

Shhhh on AJ Brown :thumbup:

At the same time...personally I'm good with the shine wearing off Ladd. Not because I think he's not worth the squeeze. On the contrary...the feel he has for the NFL game already and the rapport he was able to build with Herbert in less than a year. He's a savant.
There'll need to be plenty of popcorn ready for NFL fans if George Pickens finishes WR36. :popcorn:

I do think you're misreading the tea leaves on Godwin/Egbuka. I know you have them similarly ranked, but Godwin is still on PUP from a gruesome injury and I almost feel like TB was prepared to move on, but Godwin took such a team friendly deal. As for Evans...to your point about Godwin usurping him last year prior to the injury, he's 32. The opportunity for Egbuka? Feels like it's there and he's done nothing but impress so far.

I like you taking a stance on Breece Hall. He does feel like an RB 'without a home'. I don't know if the Jets stance toward him has been motivational, but even in his 2023 season...I do remember Saleh being frustrated with him because he was always looking for the HR. This resulted in ALOT of bad rushing games for him. And he was not all that good last year. But look at how the Jets are talking about him versus say the way ARI talks about James Conner. But in most rankings Breece >> Conner.

If Trey McBride is TE1 & Marvin Harrison is WR16, I think Kyler has no choice but to finish better than QB13. Especially if you've got Trevor at QB10.

Rashee Rice at WR15? Are you not taking in to account a suspension until we know what it is?

Love & Stroud are interesting. I feel like both were overvalued heading into drafts last year. I feel the opposite this year.
 
I am in on CMC as RB1. You're right. He does the most when 100% - and he should be rested. But I also think Barkley at RB2 ignores a pretty significant trend relating to RB workload AND the off-season being a month shorter (for SB teams) that bore itself out most recently last year with CMC. My guess is you're simply saying 'F injuries'.

Shhhh on AJ Brown :thumbup:

At the same time...personally I'm good with the shine wearing off Ladd. Not because I think he's not worth the squeeze. On the contrary...the feel he has for the NFL game already and the rapport he was able to build with Herbert in less than a year. He's a savant.
There'll need to be plenty of popcorn ready for NFL fans if George Pickens finishes WR36. :popcorn:

I do think you're misreading the tea leaves on Godwin/Egbuka. I know you have them similarly ranked, but Godwin is still on PUP from a gruesome injury and I almost feel like TB was prepared to move on, but Godwin took such a team friendly deal. As for Evans...to your point about Godwin usurping him last year prior to the injury, he's 32. The opportunity for Egbuka? Feels like it's there and he's done nothing but impress so far.

I like you taking a stance on Breece Hall. He does feel like an RB 'without a home'. I don't know if the Jets stance toward him has been motivational, but even in his 2023 season...I do remember Saleh being frustrated with him because he was always looking for the HR. This resulted in ALOT of bad rushing games for him. And he was not all that good last year. But look at how the Jets are talking about him versus say the way ARI talks about James Conner. But in most rankings Breece >> Conner.

If Trey McBride is TE1 & Marvin Harrison is WR16, I think Kyler has no choice but to finish better than QB13. Especially if you've got Trevor at QB10.

Rashee Rice at WR15? Are you not taking in to account a suspension until we know what it is?

Love & Stroud are interesting. I feel like both were overvalued heading into drafts last year. I feel the opposite this year.
Rice got me too. I'm certain he's getting 6 games, with an outside chance at 8. I would love to grab him late, but it doesn't look like that's a possibility.
The big one though is CMC. I know what he can be, and the dude is the poster child for clean living, but I just can't shake the feeling he's just toast. No shame in it, but he's had a hard career and was ridden hard his whole NFL life.
 
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77. Jordan Addison (WR40), less about the suspension, and more than I think Hockenson is better. Addison has had some luck with Jefferson missing much of 2023, and Hockenson missing much of 2024.
I think this is an interesting take. You're saying that Addison is "lucky" in terms of the volume because of the injuries to others but I really liked his game. Who is the #2 passing game option? They were pretty close in targets down the stretch when Hock was back. Something to chew on.

Addison can win a lot of ways though. I'm wondering if a good McCarthy season has him closer to the tier of WR2s on their team next season.
 
I am in on CMC as RB1. You're right. He does the most when 100% - and he should be rested. But I also think Barkley at RB2 ignores a pretty significant trend relating to RB workload AND the off-season being a month shorter (for SB teams) that bore itself out most recently last year with CMC. My guess is you're simply saying 'F injuries'.

Shhhh on AJ Brown :thumbup:

At the same time...personally I'm good with the shine wearing off Ladd. Not because I think he's not worth the squeeze. On the contrary...the feel he has for the NFL game already and the rapport he was able to build with Herbert in less than a year. He's a savant.
There'll need to be plenty of popcorn ready for NFL fans if George Pickens finishes WR36. :popcorn:

I do think you're misreading the tea leaves on Godwin/Egbuka. I know you have them similarly ranked, but Godwin is still on PUP from a gruesome injury and I almost feel like TB was prepared to move on, but Godwin took such a team friendly deal. As for Evans...to your point about Godwin usurping him last year prior to the injury, he's 32. The opportunity for Egbuka? Feels like it's there and he's done nothing but impress so far.

I like you taking a stance on Breece Hall. He does feel like an RB 'without a home'. I don't know if the Jets stance toward him has been motivational, but even in his 2023 season...I do remember Saleh being frustrated with him because he was always looking for the HR. This resulted in ALOT of bad rushing games for him. And he was not all that good last year. But look at how the Jets are talking about him versus say the way ARI talks about James Conner. But in most rankings Breece >> Conner.

If Trey McBride is TE1 & Marvin Harrison is WR16, I think Kyler has no choice but to finish better than QB13. Especially if you've got Trevor at QB10.

Rashee Rice at WR15? Are you not taking in to account a suspension until we know what it is?

Love & Stroud are interesting. I feel like both were overvalued heading into drafts last year. I feel the opposite this year.
I am kind of "F injuries" as you put it. I don't really worry about them unless I feel they really need to be, which is usually when someone is already hurt, and even then, its typically a small downgrade. In fact, I recall getting some disagreement about CMC in fact, in 2022, when I had him above Jonathan Taylor, because CMC "is a bigger injury risk, and has more mileage than Taylor" and then CMC stayed healthy and Taylor didn't.

Independent of fantasy football, I honestly think AJ Brown is the best WR in the NFL, and has had the misfortune of being in very run heavy offenses. If he got Lamb-level usage, he'd be a monster.

I think Rice gets 2-4 games. I think he should get more, but I'm not really expecting it. If he wasn't suspended at all, I think I'd have him around the 2-3 turn, based on al the positive reports on his knee.
 
77. Jordan Addison (WR40), less about the suspension, and more than I think Hockenson is better. Addison has had some luck with Jefferson missing much of 2023, and Hockenson missing much of 2024.
I think this is an interesting take. You're saying that Addison is "lucky" in terms of the volume because of the injuries to others but I really liked his game. Who is the #2 passing game option? They were pretty close in targets down the stretch when Hock was back. Something to chew on.

Addison can win a lot of ways though. I'm wondering if a good McCarthy season has him closer to the tier of WR2s on their team next season.
I don't dislike Addison, though I do think he's more a #2 WR talent. I think Hockenson got eased in a lot after his ACL tear. He went from an 80% player to a 60% player. I also think McCarthy is a much better QB for Hockenson than Darnold.
 
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
 
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Nice write-up!

I love seeing CMC #1. I agree, and I've been leaning into him more and more the last couple of months. It's as if people have forgotten how good he was. The same people missed on Barkley the previous year (me included). I won't make that mistake again!
 
Love it man! Thanks for all the effort, been anxiously awaiting these.

Still love your positional rankings, not gonna let ya get away without posting them that easily :wink:

If anyone else was curious...

QUARTERBACK:
22. Josh Allen (QB1)
23. Lamar Jackson (QB2)
30. Jayden Daniels (QB3)
34. Jalen Hurts (QB4)
45. Joe Burrow (QB5)
51. Patrick Mahomes (QB6)
72. Baker Mayfield (QB7)
83. Justin Fields (QB8)
86. Brock Purdy (QB9)
94. Trevor Lawrence (QB10)
98. JJ McCarthy (QB11)
101. Jared Goff (QB12)
104. Kyler Murray (QB13)
105. Justin Herbert (QB14)
107. Caleb Williams (QB15)
108. Bo Nix (QB16)
113. Jordan Love (QB17)
115. CJ Stroud (QB18)
127. Michael Penix (QB19)
148. Drake Maye (QB20)

RUNNING BACK:
1. Christian McCaffrey (RB1)
2. Saquon Barkley (RB2)
7. Bijan Robinson (RB3)
8. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB4)
11. Derrick Henry (RB5)
16. De'Von Achane (RB6)
19. Bucky Irving (RB7)
20. Ashton Jeanty (RB8)
24. Josh Jacobs (RB9)
27. Kenneth Walker (RB10)
28. Kyren Williams (RB11)
29. Chase Brown (RB12)
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13)
35. James Cook (RB14)
39. Omarion Hampton (RB15)
40. RJ Harvey (RB16)
43. Alvin Kamara (RB17)
46. D'Andre Swift (RB18)
52. James Conner (RB19)
57. Chuba Hubbard (RB20)
62. Aaron Jones (RB21)
66. David Montgomery (RB22)
75. Jordan Mason (RB23)
76. Jaylen Warren (RB24)
80. TreVeyon Henderson (RB25)
82. Tony Pollard (RB26)
84. Breece Hall (RB27)
85. Isiah Pacheco (RB28)
89. Tyrone Tracy (RB29)
92. Joe Mixon (RB30)
95. Rhamondre Stevenson (RB31)
96. Brian Robinson (RB32)
100. Kaleb Johnson (RB33)
106. Javonte Williams (RB34)
110. Cam Skattebo (RB35)
114. Travis Etienne (RB36)
118. Tank Bigsby (RB37)
119. Dylan Sampson (RB38)
120. Jayden Blue (RB39)
121. Nick Chubb (RB40)
124. Jerome Ford (RB41)
125. Tyjae Spears (RB42)
126. Roschon Johnson (RB43)
128. Braelon Allen (RB44)
129. Quinshon Judkins (RB45)
130. Bhayshul Tuten (RB46)
133. JK Dobbins (RB47)
135. Zach Charbonnet (RB48)
138. Trey Benson (RB49)
139. Isaiah Davis (RB50)
140. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (RB51)
142.Najee Harris (RB52)
144. Tyler Allgeier (RB53)
147. Keaton Mitchell (RB54)
149. Ray Davis (RB55)

WIDE RECEIVER:
3. CeeDee Lamb (WR1)
4. Justin Jefferson (WR2)
5. Ja'Marr Chase (WR3)
6. Nico Collins (WR4)
9. Puka Nacua (WR5)
10. Brian Thomas (WR6)
12. AJ Brown (WR7)
13. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR8)
14. Drake London (WR9)
17. Malik Nabers (WR10)
25. Tee Higgins (WR11)
26. Garrett Wilson (WR12)
31. Davante Adams (WR13)
32. Terry McLaurin (WR14)
36. Rashee Rice (WR15)
37. Marvin Harrison (WR16)
38. Ladd McConkey (WR17)
41. Mike Evans (WR18)
42. Tyreek Hill (WR19)
44. DJ Moore (WR20)
47. Jameson Williams (WR21)
48. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR22)
49. Travis Hunter (WR23)
50. Tetairoa McMillan (WR24)
54. DK Metcalf (WR25)
55. Jaylen Waddle (WR26)
56. Devonta Smith (WR27)
58. Chris Olave (WR28)
59. Zay Flowers (WR29)
60. Xavier Worthy (WR30)
61. Stefon Diggs (WR31)
63. Calvin Ridley (WR32)
64. Courtland Sutton (WR33)
65. Deebo Samuel (WR34)
67. Jakobi Meyers (WR35)
68. George Pickens(WR36)
70. Rome Odunze (WR37)
73. Jerry Jeudy (WR38)
74. Jauan Jennings (WR39)
77. Jordan Addison (WR40)
78. RickyPearsall (WR41)
79. Matthew Golden (WR42)
81. Chris Godwin (WR43)
90. Emeka Egbuka (WR44)
93. Darnell Mooney (WR45)
97. Khalil Shakir (WR46)
111. Cooper Kupp (WR47)
116. Marvin Mims (WR48)
117. Josh Downs (WR49)
122. Michael Pittman (WR50)
131. Christian Kirk (WR51)
132. Brandon Aiyuk (WR52)
136. Demario Douglas (WR53)
137. Keon Coleman (WR54)
141. Hollywood Brown (WR55)
143. Wan'Dale Robinson (WR56)
145. Rashid Shaheed (WR57)
146. Jayden Reed (WR58)
150. Jayden Higgins (WR59)

TIGHT END:
15. Trey McBride (TE1)
18. Brock Bowers (TE2)
21. George Kittle (TE3)
53. TJ Hockenson (TE4)
69. Sam LaPorta (TE5)
71. David Njoku (TE6)
87. Dalton Kincaid (TE7)
88. Tucker Kraft (TE8)
91. Travis Kelce (TE9)
99. Colston Loveland (TE10)
102. Evan Engram (TE11)
103. Mark Andrews (TE12)
109. Tyler Warren (TE13)
112. Dallas Goedert (TE14)
123. Jake Ferguson (TE15)
134. Chig Okonkwo (TE16)
 
Great write-up, I like a lot of it, but almost stopped reading at #1.

CMC is a player I wouldn't touch anywhere in rnd 1 of a redraft. I think he's toasted as a high end fantasy asset.

But hey, who knows... Might be the superstud again, I just think the body is too beat up
 
armchair qb analysis: I'm right there with you on CMC but the pundits will talk about losing the draft in round one (risk).

imo, you've seriously undervalued Derrick Henry and overvalued CeeDee I give up on my teammates Lamb.
 
armchair qb analysis: I'm right there with you on CMC but the pundits will talk about losing the draft in round one (risk).

imo, you've seriously undervalued Derrick Henry and overvalued CeeDee I give up on my teammates Lamb.
Severely undervalued Henry? He has him at 11 in half ppr which is higher than his adp. You have him above Gibbs bijan and barkley in ppr???
 
When the regular season starts, I'll go back to the positional rankings, and have them listed in parenthesis here, but I figured with it being draft season, I'd try a top-150. I have notes for new additions, but unless there is a big movement from my July ranks, I'll just have the ranking for some players. To appeal to the broadest range of leagues, this is half PPR, 4 pt pass TD.

1. Christian McCaffrey (RB1), I'm not hedging anymore. Everything is going his way right now. 49ers WRs have question marks, his own backups are hurt, he's healthy, and the 49ers play the NFL's easiest projected schedule. His ceiling is SO MUCH higher than anyone else's. 2,000+ yards, 20+ TD's, and 100+ catches. Nobody else offers that potential.

2. Saquon Barkley (RB2)

3. CeeDee Lamb (WR1)

4. Justin Jefferson (WR2)

5. Ja'Marr Chase (WR3)

6. Nico Collins (WR4)

7. Bijan Robinson (RB3)

8. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB4)

9. Puka Nacua (WR5)

10. Brian Thomas (WR6)

11. Derrick Henry (RB5)

12. AJ Brown (WR7), its just so unlikely the Eagles (or any team) as run heavy as they were last season. Brown was on a pace for 85-1364-9 season on 122 targets, which feels likely to go back up. Also has proven contingent upside should something happen to Smith/Goedert. Philly just consolidates.

13. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR8)

14. Drake London (WR9)

15. Trey McBride (TE1)

16. De'Von Achane (RB6)

17. Malik Nabers (WR10)

18. Brock Bowers (TE2)

19. Bucky Irving (RB7)

20. Ashton Jeanty (RB8), love the player, but have concerns that Raiders will spend most of the season playing from behind, and while Jeanty is a good receiver, he's not an Achane type who can make a living off it. He's been dropping in most ranks, I believe for that reason.

21. George Kittle (TE3)

22. Josh Allen (QB1)

23. Lamar Jackson (QB2)

24. Josh Jacobs (RB9)

25. Tee Higgins (WR11)

26. Garrett Wilson (WR12)

27. Kenneth Walker (RB10)

28. Kyren Williams (RB11)

29. Chase Brown (RB12)

30. Jayden Daniels (QB3)

31. Davante Adams (WR13), will be seeing the most favorable coverage he's had in close to a decade, and has top-5 upside should something happen to Puka, as arguably nobody schemes up WRs better than McVay.

32. Terry McLaurin (WR14)

33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.

34. Jalen Hurts (QB4)

35. James Cook (RB14)

36. Rashee Rice (WR15)

37. Marvin Harrison (WR16)

38. Ladd McConkey (WR17), been driving the bandwagon since Georgia on him as a player, but I think the Allen addition hurts, and the Slater injury hurts everyone on the Chargers.

39. Omarion Hampton (RB15)

40. RJ Harvey (RB16), despite Payton depth chart silliness, worked as the starter in 1st preseason game. Of note, Payton has drafted 3 RBs in the first 3 rounds in his career (Bush, Ingram, Kamara) and all were heavily involved as rookies (though Ingram got hurt)

41. Mike Evans (WR18), still very confident in him, just feel he has less upside than others due to target competition/Bucs regression.

42. Tyreek Hill (WR19)

43. Alvin Kamara (RB17), want to be higher, but Saints look like #1 pick contenders. Will he be as active in the pass game under Moore, who had career low pass game usage from Barkley/Ekeler?

44. DJ Moore (WR20)

45. Joe Burrow (QB5)

46. D'Andre Swift (RB18), I hate this ranking so much. I think Swift is ideally a #2 RB, not just for fantasy, but for an NFL team, but the Bears have nobody else of real note, and the OL could be top-3 in the NFL. Swift's most efficient season was with Ben Johnson.

47. Jameson Williams (WR21)

48. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR22)

49. Travis Hunter (WR23)

50. Tetairoa McMillan (WR24)

51. Patrick Mahomes (QB6)

52. James Conner (RB19)

53. TJ Hockenson (TE4)

54. DK Metcalf (WR25), still not a guy I'm excited about, but in some ways he's the WR version of Swift, where, who else is gonna do it?

55. Jaylen Waddle (WR26)

56. Devonta Smith (WR27)

57. Chuba Hubbard (RB20)

58. Chris Olave (WR28)

59. Zay Flowers (WR29)

60. Xavier Worthy (WR30)

61. Stefon Diggs (WR31), getting a little higher on the Patriots offense, and he's looking very likely to be good for week 1. Very little proven target competition, and Diggs has always had a chip on his shoulder. He's likely to play out wide where he is better (.93 YPRR) than the slot where he was in Houston.

62. Aaron Jones (RB21), just really like the Vikings offense, his role will be smaller than last season, but the Vikings offensive pie should be bigger, especially after massive OL upgrades.

63. Calvin Ridley (WR32), clear cut #1, and already seems to have a rapport with Ward.

64. Courtland Sutton (WR33)

65. Deebo Samuel (WR34)

66. David Montgomery (RB22), I kinda want to be lower on him, but then I keep thinking about his contingent upside if Gibbs goes down.

67. Jakobi Meyers (WR35)

68. George Pickens (WR36)

69. Sam LaPorta (TE5)

70. Rome Odunze (WR37), not 100% sure of his fit in Johnson's offense, but don't mind betting on a 2nd year top-10 pick. It seems like Burden is pretty much a non-threat for now.

71. David Njoku (TE6)

72. Baker Mayfield (QB7)

73. Jerry Jeudy (WR38)

74. Jauan Jennings (WR39)

75. Jordan Mason (RB23), huge fan of his talent, and think he and Jones can co-exist, and both have contingent upside.

76. Jaylen Warren (RB24), just feel like he's gonna catch a lot of passes, like maybe make a run at 80 catches. He had 61 2 years ago, and likely plays more snaps than he did then.

77. Jordan Addison (WR40), less about the suspension, and more than I think Hockenson is better. Addison has had some luck with Jefferson missing much of 2023, and Hockenson missing much of 2024.

78. Ricky Pearsall (WR41), had 14-210-2 his last 2 games last year, and should see a bigger role in year 2. Aiyuk's timetable is unknown, and while I never thought Pearsall was a 1st round talent (blew my mind at the time he went ahead of McConkey) he's not untalented.

79. Matthew Golden (WR42), I don't know if the Packers want to be a spread the wealth team, or just have been because they haven't had a good WR since Adams left? Golden is an interesting prospect, who feels in the Brandin Cooks mold to me. Has a great shot to be the #1 in GB, but its also possible they just don't have a #1. Solid WR4 flier to me.

80. TreVeyon Henderson (RB25), I don't dislike the guy, but reading through his player thread, I'm much lower on him than the people who love him. I don't think he's anywhere near the explosive player guys like Charles and Gibbs are/were. I could see poor man's Gibbs in a worse offense, which is still very useful as an RB3.

81. Chris Godwin (WR43), its possible I'm being too generous given he's sounding less and less likely to even be playing week 1, but its tough to completely ignore that he was WR2 overall before his injury last season, and has overcome injury in the past.

82. Tony Pollard (RB26)

83. Justin Fields (QB8)

84. Breece Hall (RB27), feels like a RBBC, with a QB who doesn't checkdown much, and runs. Hall will likely be more effective this year, but his volume could really disappoint. Clearly, I'll have zero shares. Outside chance he's a trade candidate.

85. Isiah Pacheco (RB28)

86. Brock Purdy (QB9)

87. Dalton Kincaid (TE7)

88. Tucker Kraft (TE8)

89. Tyrone Tracy (RB29), I think Skattebo is the better player long-term, but he's got a hamstring injury, and Tracy should be able to hold him off for a while because of it. Russell Wilson has also gotten much more checkdown heavy as his mobility has waned.

90. Emeka Egbuka (WR44), its entirely possible he just blows past Godwin, but I hesitate to predict it, as Godwin has been really great as recently as last season. Still, both he and Evans have struggled to stay on the field at times, and I don't see TB using the TE much, so Egbuka is looking at 60+ catches with contingent upside for more.

91. Travis Kelce (TE9)

92. Joe Mixon (RB30), I feel pretty comfortable calling him the Texans guy when he's healthy, but he doesn't sound healthy at all right now. At a certain point though, I think the trigger must be pulled on a guy who was a top-10 RB a year ago.

93. Darnell Mooney (WR45), was neck and neck with London until Cousins was benched, then he got hurt, and London blew up with Penix. Mooney is a bit of a wildcard to me. Also currently a little banged up.

94. Trevor Lawrence (QB10)

95. Rhamondre Stevenson (RB31), was a pretty solid RB, until falling off last season. Its possible that was more about the OL than anything else, but the Henderson addition craters any ceiling Stevenson had. At this point, I think you are hoping for a poor man's Gibbs/Monty situation.

96. Brian Robinson (RB32), was RB14 before October injury, but can't help but feel like Washington would like to use him less. I think this could fall into a pretty big RBBC this season.

97. Khalil Shakir (WR46), positives are nice new deal, and nobody has pushed him out of #1 role yet, negatives are already hurt, and has sizeable splits when Bills are winning/losing.

98. JJ McCarthy (QB11)

99. Colston Loveland (TE10)

100. Kaleb Johnson (RB33), I do expect him to see about 45% of the work in Pittsburgh, and maybe he'll take the Najee if things break right, but I trust Warren a lot more. If you are high on the Steelers offense (why would you be?) its not hard to get both.
How much do the top QB’S move up in 6 point passing TD leagues?
 
Love it man! Thanks for all the effort, been anxiously awaiting these.

Still love your positional rankings, not gonna let ya get away without posting them that easily :wink:

If anyone else was curious...

QUARTERBACK:
22. Josh Allen (QB1)
23. Lamar Jackson (QB2)
30. Jayden Daniels (QB3)
34. Jalen Hurts (QB4)
45. Joe Burrow (QB5)
51. Patrick Mahomes (QB6)
72. Baker Mayfield (QB7)
83. Justin Fields (QB8)
86. Brock Purdy (QB9)
94. Trevor Lawrence (QB10)
98. JJ McCarthy (QB11)
101. Jared Goff (QB12)
104. Kyler Murray (QB13)
105. Justin Herbert (QB14)
107. Caleb Williams (QB15)
108. Bo Nix (QB16)
113. Jordan Love (QB17)
115. CJ Stroud (QB18)
127. Michael Penix (QB19)
148. Drake Maye (QB20)

RUNNING BACK:
1. Christian McCaffrey (RB1)
2. Saquon Barkley (RB2)
7. Bijan Robinson (RB3)
8. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB4)
11. Derrick Henry (RB5)
16. De'Von Achane (RB6)
19. Bucky Irving (RB7)
20. Ashton Jeanty (RB8)
24. Josh Jacobs (RB9)
27. Kenneth Walker (RB10)
28. Kyren Williams (RB11)
29. Chase Brown (RB12)
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13)
35. James Cook (RB14)
39. Omarion Hampton (RB15)
40. RJ Harvey (RB16)
43. Alvin Kamara (RB17)
46. D'Andre Swift (RB18)
52. James Conner (RB19)
57. Chuba Hubbard (RB20)
62. Aaron Jones (RB21)
66. David Montgomery (RB22)
75. Jordan Mason (RB23)
76. Jaylen Warren (RB24)
80. TreVeyon Henderson (RB25)
82. Tony Pollard (RB26)
84. Breece Hall (RB27)
85. Isiah Pacheco (RB28)
89. Tyrone Tracy (RB29)
92. Joe Mixon (RB30)
95. Rhamondre Stevenson (RB31)
96. Brian Robinson (RB32)
100. Kaleb Johnson (RB33)
106. Javonte Williams (RB34)
110. Cam Skattebo (RB35)
114. Travis Etienne (RB36)
118. Tank Bigsby (RB37)
119. Dylan Sampson (RB38)
120. Jayden Blue (RB39)
121. Nick Chubb (RB40)
124. Jerome Ford (RB41)
125. Tyjae Spears (RB42)
126. Roschon Johnson (RB43)
128. Braelon Allen (RB44)
129. Quinshon Judkins (RB45)
130. Bhayshul Tuten (RB46)
133. JK Dobbins (RB47)
135. Zach Charbonnet (RB48)
138. Trey Benson (RB49)
139. Isaiah Davis (RB50)
140. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (RB51)
142.Najee Harris (RB52)
144. Tyler Allgeier (RB53)
147. Keaton Mitchell (RB54)
149. Ray Davis (RB55)

WIDE RECEIVER:
3. CeeDee Lamb (WR1)
4. Justin Jefferson (WR2)
5. Ja'Marr Chase (WR3)
6. Nico Collins (WR4)
9. Puka Nacua (WR5)
10. Brian Thomas (WR6)
12. AJ Brown (WR7)
13. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR8)
14. Drake London (WR9)
17. Malik Nabers (WR10)
25. Tee Higgins (WR11)
26. Garrett Wilson (WR12)
31. Davante Adams (WR13)
32. Terry McLaurin (WR14)
36. Rashee Rice (WR15)
37. Marvin Harrison (WR16)
38. Ladd McConkey (WR17)
41. Mike Evans (WR18)
42. Tyreek Hill (WR19)
44. DJ Moore (WR20)
47. Jameson Williams (WR21)
48. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR22)
49. Travis Hunter (WR23)
50. Tetairoa McMillan (WR24)
54. DK Metcalf (WR25)
55. Jaylen Waddle (WR26)
56. Devonta Smith (WR27)
58. Chris Olave (WR28)
59. Zay Flowers (WR29)
60. Xavier Worthy (WR30)
61. Stefon Diggs (WR31)
63. Calvin Ridley (WR32)
64. Courtland Sutton (WR33)
65. Deebo Samuel (WR34)
67. Jakobi Meyers (WR35)
68. George Pickens(WR36)
70. Rome Odunze (WR37)
73. Jerry Jeudy (WR38)
74. Jauan Jennings (WR39)
77. Jordan Addison (WR40)
78. RickyPearsall (WR41)
79. Matthew Golden (WR42)
81. Chris Godwin (WR43)
90. Emeka Egbuka (WR44)
93. Darnell Mooney (WR45)
97. Khalil Shakir (WR46)
111. Cooper Kupp (WR47)
116. Marvin Mims (WR48)
117. Josh Downs (WR49)
122. Michael Pittman (WR50)
131. Christian Kirk (WR51)
132. Brandon Aiyuk (WR52)
136. Demario Douglas (WR53)
137. Keon Coleman (WR54)
141. Hollywood Brown (WR55)
143. Wan'Dale Robinson (WR56)
145. Rashid Shaheed (WR57)
146. Jayden Reed (WR58)
150. Jayden Higgins (WR59)

TIGHT END:
15. Trey McBride (TE1)
18. Brock Bowers (TE2)
21. George Kittle (TE3)
53. TJ Hockenson (TE4)
69. Sam LaPorta (TE5)
71. David Njoku (TE6)
87. Dalton Kincaid (TE7)
88. Tucker Kraft (TE8)
91. Travis Kelce (TE9)
99. Colston Loveland (TE10)
102. Evan Engram (TE11)
103. Mark Andrews (TE12)
109. Tyler Warren (TE13)
112. Dallas Goedert (TE14)
123. Jake Ferguson (TE15)
134. Chig Okonkwo (TE16)
You did the lord's work there buddy
 
Love it man! Thanks for all the effort, been anxiously awaiting these.

Still love your positional rankings, not gonna let ya get away without posting them that easily :wink:

If anyone else was curious...

QUARTERBACK:
22. Josh Allen (QB1)
23. Lamar Jackson (QB2)
30. Jayden Daniels (QB3)
34. Jalen Hurts (QB4)
45. Joe Burrow (QB5)
51. Patrick Mahomes (QB6)
72. Baker Mayfield (QB7)
83. Justin Fields (QB8)
86. Brock Purdy (QB9)
94. Trevor Lawrence (QB10)
98. JJ McCarthy (QB11)
101. Jared Goff (QB12)
104. Kyler Murray (QB13)
105. Justin Herbert (QB14)
107. Caleb Williams (QB15)
108. Bo Nix (QB16)
113. Jordan Love (QB17)
115. CJ Stroud (QB18)
127. Michael Penix (QB19)
148. Drake Maye (QB20)

RUNNING BACK:
1. Christian McCaffrey (RB1)
2. Saquon Barkley (RB2)
7. Bijan Robinson (RB3)
8. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB4)
11. Derrick Henry (RB5)
16. De'Von Achane (RB6)
19. Bucky Irving (RB7)
20. Ashton Jeanty (RB8)
24. Josh Jacobs (RB9)
27. Kenneth Walker (RB10)
28. Kyren Williams (RB11)
29. Chase Brown (RB12)
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13)
35. James Cook (RB14)
39. Omarion Hampton (RB15)
40. RJ Harvey (RB16)
43. Alvin Kamara (RB17)
46. D'Andre Swift (RB18)
52. James Conner (RB19)
57. Chuba Hubbard (RB20)
62. Aaron Jones (RB21)
66. David Montgomery (RB22)
75. Jordan Mason (RB23)
76. Jaylen Warren (RB24)
80. TreVeyon Henderson (RB25)
82. Tony Pollard (RB26)
84. Breece Hall (RB27)
85. Isiah Pacheco (RB28)
89. Tyrone Tracy (RB29)
92. Joe Mixon (RB30)
95. Rhamondre Stevenson (RB31)
96. Brian Robinson (RB32)
100. Kaleb Johnson (RB33)
106. Javonte Williams (RB34)
110. Cam Skattebo (RB35)
114. Travis Etienne (RB36)
118. Tank Bigsby (RB37)
119. Dylan Sampson (RB38)
120. Jayden Blue (RB39)
121. Nick Chubb (RB40)
124. Jerome Ford (RB41)
125. Tyjae Spears (RB42)
126. Roschon Johnson (RB43)
128. Braelon Allen (RB44)
129. Quinshon Judkins (RB45)
130. Bhayshul Tuten (RB46)
133. JK Dobbins (RB47)
135. Zach Charbonnet (RB48)
138. Trey Benson (RB49)
139. Isaiah Davis (RB50)
140. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (RB51)
142.Najee Harris (RB52)
144. Tyler Allgeier (RB53)
147. Keaton Mitchell (RB54)
149. Ray Davis (RB55)

WIDE RECEIVER:
3. CeeDee Lamb (WR1)
4. Justin Jefferson (WR2)
5. Ja'Marr Chase (WR3)
6. Nico Collins (WR4)
9. Puka Nacua (WR5)
10. Brian Thomas (WR6)
12. AJ Brown (WR7)
13. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR8)
14. Drake London (WR9)
17. Malik Nabers (WR10)
25. Tee Higgins (WR11)
26. Garrett Wilson (WR12)
31. Davante Adams (WR13)
32. Terry McLaurin (WR14)
36. Rashee Rice (WR15)
37. Marvin Harrison (WR16)
38. Ladd McConkey (WR17)
41. Mike Evans (WR18)
42. Tyreek Hill (WR19)
44. DJ Moore (WR20)
47. Jameson Williams (WR21)
48. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR22)
49. Travis Hunter (WR23)
50. Tetairoa McMillan (WR24)
54. DK Metcalf (WR25)
55. Jaylen Waddle (WR26)
56. Devonta Smith (WR27)
58. Chris Olave (WR28)
59. Zay Flowers (WR29)
60. Xavier Worthy (WR30)
61. Stefon Diggs (WR31)
63. Calvin Ridley (WR32)
64. Courtland Sutton (WR33)
65. Deebo Samuel (WR34)
67. Jakobi Meyers (WR35)
68. George Pickens(WR36)
70. Rome Odunze (WR37)
73. Jerry Jeudy (WR38)
74. Jauan Jennings (WR39)
77. Jordan Addison (WR40)
78. RickyPearsall (WR41)
79. Matthew Golden (WR42)
81. Chris Godwin (WR43)
90. Emeka Egbuka (WR44)
93. Darnell Mooney (WR45)
97. Khalil Shakir (WR46)
111. Cooper Kupp (WR47)
116. Marvin Mims (WR48)
117. Josh Downs (WR49)
122. Michael Pittman (WR50)
131. Christian Kirk (WR51)
132. Brandon Aiyuk (WR52)
136. Demario Douglas (WR53)
137. Keon Coleman (WR54)
141. Hollywood Brown (WR55)
143. Wan'Dale Robinson (WR56)
145. Rashid Shaheed (WR57)
146. Jayden Reed (WR58)
150. Jayden Higgins (WR59)

TIGHT END:
15. Trey McBride (TE1)
18. Brock Bowers (TE2)
21. George Kittle (TE3)
53. TJ Hockenson (TE4)
69. Sam LaPorta (TE5)
71. David Njoku (TE6)
87. Dalton Kincaid (TE7)
88. Tucker Kraft (TE8)
91. Travis Kelce (TE9)
99. Colston Loveland (TE10)
102. Evan Engram (TE11)
103. Mark Andrews (TE12)
109. Tyler Warren (TE13)
112. Dallas Goedert (TE14)
123. Jake Ferguson (TE15)
134. Chig Okonkwo (TE16)
You did the lord's work there buddy
I probably should have used AI, it took a lot longer than I thought it would sorting that all lol
 
77. Jordan Addison (WR40), less about the suspension, and more than I think Hockenson is better. Addison has had some luck with Jefferson missing much of 2023, and Hockenson missing much of 2024.
I think this is an interesting take. You're saying that Addison is "lucky" in terms of the volume because of the injuries to others but I really liked his game. Who is the #2 passing game option? They were pretty close in targets down the stretch when Hock was back. Something to chew on.

Addison can win a lot of ways though. I'm wondering if a good McCarthy season has him closer to the tier of WR2s on their team next season.
I don't dislike Addison, though I do think he's more a #2 WR talent. I think Hockenson got eased in a lot after his ACL tear. He went from an 80% player to a 60% player. I also think McCarthy is a much better QB for Hockenson than Darnold.
Part of Hockensons high volume targets was due to Jefferson being out in some games. He said himself he was playing Jeffersons role in the offense a lot in those games.

This was before they had Addison. Part of why they drafted Addison is to have 2 good options even if one is hurt.

I would need to look it up again, but if I recall correctly Addison did similarly well with Jefferson in the lineup as when Jefferson was out in his rookie season.

Eta - Addison 6.3 targets per game in 2023. Then 6.7 targets per game in 2024 in 2 less games played.

In watching the preseason game I thought Addison ran routes that Jefferson would as Jefferson and Hockenson were out.

I think Addisons role as the WR 2 is independent from Jefferson and Hockenson and so far that's been 6.5 targets per game.

When he is out Nailor will play Addisons role and either Lucky Jackson or Tai Felton play Nailors role.
 
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33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
Right now, I think the Colts are gonna finish last in their division, and have a top-5 pick in the draft, with likely a new GM/HC in 2026.

Probably wouldn't be a bad thing for Taylor if he got dealt.
 
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
Right now, I think the Colts are gonna finish last in their division, and have a top-5 pick in the draft, with likely a new GM/HC in 2026.

Probably wouldn't be a bad thing for Taylor if he got dealt.
I agree about the Colts.

JT getting dealt to a contender in October doesn't bother me. I don't know the history of RBs getting dealt mid season but I imagine the transition is relatively easy.
 
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
Right now, I think the Colts are gonna finish last in their division, and have a top-5 pick in the draft, with likely a new GM/HC in 2026.

Probably wouldn't be a bad thing for Taylor if he got dealt.
I agree about the Colts.

JT getting dealt to a contender in October doesn't bother me. I don't know the history of RBs getting dealt mid season but I imagine the transition is relatively easy.
Well, I can think of 5 examples off the top of my head:

1. Eric Dickerson, traded from the Rams to the Colts in 1987. Basically ended up being a sideways move. Dickerson was starting to slow down slightly after topping 400 touches in 3 of his 4 seasons to date, but was still a top guy. Won the rushing title the following season in 1988.

2. Herschel Walker, traded from the Cowboys to the Vikings in 1989. Was coming off a 2000 total yardage season in 1988. Obviously we know which team won this deal, but it was also a downgrade for Walker, as while Dallas was awful in 1989, they were feeding him. He was more a bit player in Minnesota, though a more efficient one. Had some ok seasons with the Vikings and later Eagles, but was never as good as his Dallas days.

3. Marshawn Lynch, traded from Buffalo to Seattle in 2010. Lynch had lost the starting job to Fred Jackson and Buffalo had just drafted CJ Spiller in round 1. Lynch struggled quite a bit after the trade, but then blew up in the NO playoff game, with that one run we all remember. Then he went on to be as good a RB as there was in the NFL over the next several seasons.

4. Trent Richardson, traded from the Browns to the Colts in 2013. He just wasn't a good player, but he was much better in Cleveland than Indy.

5. Christian McCaffrey, traded from the Panthers to the 49ers in 2022. Was basically the same guy in SF, but with a TD spike in a better offense. Then the following season won OPOY.

Of this group, Taylor to me would probably be most similar to Walker I guess. Personally, if both are available, I'd rather deal for Breece Hall than Taylor if I were running an NFL team.
 
I think Rice gets 2-4 games

Agreed because, well, Chiefs. Even if he gets 4-6, he will be a game changer upon returning. I think people forget how much of an emergent 2nd yr monster he was prior to going down early last season. If he gets more than six games, I'll be surprised. Again, because, Chiefs!
 
Dude you are the man. But cmc is done. Sorry. You dead wrong on that ****. Sf is done as well
Thanks.

I will say I disagree on SF, I think they are the most obvious bounce back team there is, and I fully expect them to a final 4 team in the NFC.
I just heard SF has an easy projected SOS this year. I am not sure I would go as far as top 4 NFC team, but agree with travdogg that they should bounce back.
 
How much do the top QB’S move up in 6 point passing TD leagues?
Since all QB's get that bump I typically don't change their rankings with respect to other positions unless it's 2QB or SF. However, running QB's get moved down a bit since they lose the 6 pt rushing TD advantage.
 
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
Right now, I think the Colts are gonna finish last in their division, and have a top-5 pick in the draft, with likely a new GM/HC in 2026.

Probably wouldn't be a bad thing for Taylor if he got dealt.
I'd like to jump in here and I understand the Indy vibe, what about the Saints?
They must be in on the Arch Manning sweepstakes. RS Soph so he can jump if he chooses.
The Saints have some history with Archie Manning his grandfather if I have that right, and the Saints are likely to lose a lot of games
Alvin Kamara should be traded at the deadline, he could win a couple games they don't really want to win if they're gonna lose 10-12 at least anyways
No QB, no big weapons, Colts are perhaps better than New Orleans

-Great thread TDogg
 
33. Jonathan Taylor (RB13), Colts are giving me some dumpster fire vibes, and Taylor isn't a guy who does anything in the passing game. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't finish the season on the Colts.
As a newly minted JT manager I will point out that JT was great in the passing game for two seasons under Frank Reich. Unfortunately, it looks like Steichen doesn't have that as part of his scheme and the QBs aren't helping.

Your dumpster fire vibes are probably right.
Right now, I think the Colts are gonna finish last in their division, and have a top-5 pick in the draft, with likely a new GM/HC in 2026.

Probably wouldn't be a bad thing for Taylor if he got dealt.
I'd like to jump in here and I understand the Indy vibe, what about the Saints?
They must be in on the Arch Manning sweepstakes. RS Soph so he can jump if he chooses.
The Saints have some history with Archie Manning his grandfather if I have that right, and the Saints are likely to lose a lot of games
Alvin Kamara should be traded at the deadline, he could win a couple games they don't really want to win if they're gonna lose 10-12 at least anyways
No QB, no big weapons, Colts are perhaps better than New Orleans

-Great thread TDogg
Yeah, the Saints are the favorites for the #1 pick, but I think given his age/contract, I don't see Kamara having much of a market. I do wonder of the Saints could deal one of Olave/Shaheed, as both are due for new deals soon, and could be very appealing for contenders.
 

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