Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Henry will be a top 3 pick next year.
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suspected
Footballguy
Last year around mid-late season Henry was on the FBG "sell" list and was viewed as not having much dynasty value because he was on the downside of his career, an injury risk, and unlikely to start over Lendale in 2007 (if he stayed at Ten), or land a starting job anywhere else.
My how things change.
My how things change.
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Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Just took him #5 in a $500 redraft league
AcerFC
Footballguy
I had the 10th pick and was targeting him but I got scared so I traded up to 8. The guys that will still be there will be Westbrook, Gore and Rudi (after talking with other owners). Henry is in the best situation out of these guys. Its .5ppr for RB and I dont feel like waiting for info on Westy every week and I hate Gores propensity to get dinged up. We will see if it pays off
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
.05 perI think Henry will have 40 + receptions this year.
If you look at game logs from 06 the Bells had 44 rec between them, now look when they came. They all (90%) came once Cutler took over. With Jake they just didnt pass to the back much. I have also read camp reports that have stated they are using Henry allot in the passing game and lastly he's already had a 40+ reception year.
Bloom Camp report from Dallas scrimage. Read what he says about Henry
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=333583&hl=
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Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
You mean 0.5 PPR, right?Same as my league. Debating on who to take at #4. Hoping LJ slides to me but thinking about Gore or Henry if he doesn't. Westbrook seems too risky.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
0.5 is correct. I see a portis type year in Henry future
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
You're expecting him to get hurt? Bump up Cobbs...
John Mamula
Moderator
I keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.
i can't justify him as being a top 10 RB even though i thought i was being really aggressive back in the spring when i did my first cut of projections.problem with me is that where i would take him in the late 2nd round, i prefer WRs that are available there more.i don't think he'll be on any of my teams this year.i don't get the love especially in PPR leagues. i just don't see more than 20 receptions for him. this may be where i am missing the boat on him as i have him projected for 1300 yards and 10 TDs rushing...i just have negligible stats receiving for him. thus he is languishing in the teens in my rankings.MogusMaximus
Footballguy
I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsI keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.
), I see nothing less than 330 carries/1600-1700 yds/14 TDs.
John Mamula
Moderator
well i am thirsty. could you pass the kool aid?lol at nothing less.I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsI keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.), I see nothing less than 330 carries/1600-1700 yds/14 TDs.
Portis is quite the injury risk, after all he missed 4 games in his entire NFL career before last year. You should avoid those proven RBs that have a fluky injury.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Sheesh, way to kill a bad joke.
toucheMogusMaximus
Footballguy
Maybe 'nothing less' was a bit dramtic. ha. But in all seriousness, you have a talented Denver RB who is projected to carry most of the load ranked in the teens? Why? Is it your lack of faith in Henry himself? In Denver's system? I'm interested. The Bell's shared 44 receptions last year, Henry should get a large chunk of that this year considering both that Denver's O figures to spend more time on the field and Henry has better hands than either.well i am thirsty. could you pass the kool aid?lol at nothing less.I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsI keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.i can't justify him as being a top 10 RB even though i thought i was being really aggressive back in the spring when i did my first cut of projections.problem with me is that where i would take him in the late 2nd round, i prefer WRs that are available there more.i don't think he'll be on any of my teams this year.i don't get the love especially in PPR leagues. i just don't see more than 20 receptions for him. this may be where i am missing the boat on him as i have him projected for 1300 yards and 10 TDs rushing...i just have negligible stats receiving for him. thus he is languishing in the teens in my rankings.
), I see nothing less than 330 carries/1600-1700 yds/14 TDs.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Not too mention 90% of those receptions happend once Cutler was the starter AND the fact Henry has shown he can catch 40+ ball alraedy in a season.Maybe 'nothing less' was a bit dramtic. ha. But in all seriousness, you have a talented Denver RB who is projected to carry most of the load ranked in the teens? Why? Is it your lack of faith in Henry himself? In Denver's system? I'm interested. The Bell's shared 44 receptions last year, Henry should get a large chunk of that this year considering both that Denver's O figures to spend more time on the field and Henry has better hands than either.well i am thirsty. could you pass the kool aid?lol at nothing less.I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsI keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.
John Mamula
Moderator
it wouldn't surprise me if he hit the numbers you say.however, i am projecting him at about 1400 yards and 10 TDs, with only 15 rec for 100 yards. i base my base projections off a weighted average of the past 3 years of data. i gave henry a boost for going to DEN, but the boost i am giving him isn't enough to get him as a first rounder. that may be too conservative, but i hate taking someone in the first round who's projected stats are based mainly on a bump on his base stats.henry is a guy who i'd love to grab in the 2nd round in a non PPR league. but there is the hype factor that is precluding from that ever happening. if i miss out on him, i am ok with that.Maybe 'nothing less' was a bit dramtic. ha. But in all seriousness, you have a talented Denver RB who is projected to carry most of the load ranked in the teens? Why? Is it your lack of faith in Henry himself? In Denver's system? I'm interested. The Bell's shared 44 receptions last year, Henry should get a large chunk of that this year considering both that Denver's O figures to spend more time on the field and Henry has better hands than either.well i am thirsty. could you pass the kool aid?lol at nothing less.I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsI keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Surely people don't believe Shanny will play games with his RBs this season, do they?. Well, maybe they do. Seriously, if Henry stays healthy, he's a stone cold lock for a top-5 finish, IMO. He's easily the best RB they've had since Portis & Henry is underrated at that. If you land him past 7 it's highway robbery.
Seriously, if Henry stays healthy, he's a stone cold lock for a top-5 finish, IMO. He's easily the best RB they've had since Portis & Henry is underrated at that. If you land him past 7 it's highway robbery.
John Mamula
Moderator
Code:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2001 buf | 13 | 213 729 3.4 4 | 22 179 8.1 0 || 2002 buf | 16 | 325 1438 4.4 13 | 43 309 7.2 1 || 2003 buf | 15 | 331 1356 4.1 10 | 28 158 5.6 1 || 2004 buf | 10 | 94 326 3.5 0 | 10 45 4.5 0 || 2005 ten | 9 | 88 335 3.8 0 | 13 117 9.0 0 || 2006 ten | 14 | 270 1211 4.5 7 | 18 78 4.3 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 77 | 1321 5395 4.1 34 | 134 886 6.6 2 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+John Mamula
Moderator
the way people are talking about henry in here reminds me of the Barlow Bloodbath of Ought Three.
:bwih:
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MogusMaximus
Footballguy
Fair enough my friend, fair enough. Although having watched Denver's offense pretty closely since Elway left I'm fairly confident in my prediction... but it is just that, a prediction. After all the shenanigans Shanahan has pulled over the last few years in regard to his RB situations, your skepticism holds plenty of water. Call me an optimist.bagger said:it wouldn't surprise me if he hit the numbers you say.however, i am projecting him at about 1400 yards and 10 TDs, with only 15 rec for 100 yards. i base my base projections off a weighted average of the past 3 years of data. i gave henry a boost for going to DEN, but the boost i am giving him isn't enough to get him as a first rounder. that may be too conservative, but i hate taking someone in the first round who's projected stats are based mainly on a bump on his base stats.henry is a guy who i'd love to grab in the 2nd round in a non PPR league. but there is the hype factor that is precluding from that ever happening. if i miss out on him, i am ok with that.MogusMaximus said:Maybe 'nothing less' was a bit dramtic. ha. But in all seriousness, you have a talented Denver RB who is projected to carry most of the load ranked in the teens? Why? Is it your lack of faith in Henry himself? In Denver's system? I'm interested. The Bell's shared 44 receptions last year, Henry should get a large chunk of that this year considering both that Denver's O figures to spend more time on the field and Henry has better hands than either.bagger said:well i am thirsty. could you pass the kool aid?lol at nothing less.MogusMaximus said:I think your "problem" is that you forget how potent Shanahan's offense can be when working fluently. Although if you expect Bell or Sapp to siphon carries, then your prediction is understandable. However, if he does carry the load and Denver's offense does indeed show the expected improvement (at least fulfills my expectationsbagger said:I keep bumping his numbers up but I still have him as the #10rb.i can't justify him as being a top 10 RB even though i thought i was being really aggressive back in the spring when i did my first cut of projections.problem with me is that where i would take him in the late 2nd round, i prefer WRs that are available there more.i don't think he'll be on any of my teams this year.i don't get the love especially in PPR leagues. i just don't see more than 20 receptions for him. this may be where i am missing the boat on him as i have him projected for 1300 yards and 10 TDs rushing...i just have negligible stats receiving for him. thus he is languishing in the teens in my rankings.
mr. furley
Footballguy
bagger said:
wraith5
Footballguy
John Mamula
Moderator
yeah i took barlow in the late first round that year too.pretty rough.
i should add the situations are completely different, you are correct. i was referring to more of the hype of henry being a "can't miss" top 5 back.
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