What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Trent Richardson Week 1 Prediction (1 Viewer)

Trent Richardson - RB - Browns

Beat writer Steve Doerschuk's "best guess" is that Trent Richardson (knee scopes) will get "about 10 carries" in the season opener, but "there still is a chance he won't play at all."

Doerschuk confirms Richardson looked "quick and fast" in Monday's return to practice. If the rookie plays well in his first couple of games, his workload is expected to increase to 15-to-20 carries per game by October. As it's shaping up at mid-week, however, this backfield has no clear-cut fantasy starter for Week 1 versus the Eagles.

The "not playing at all" bit makes me a little leary of this guy. Any Cleveland homers know about his record of accuracy? I always see Mary Kay Cabot connected to Cleveland sports.
Have never heard of him
 
It didn't? He ran for 147 yards and 1 TD. The next week? 128 and a TD. The following week? 158 yards. He got hurt in the fourth game after having rushing attempts of 27, 24 and 37, respectively (for a guy who split carries his entire college career), but still ran for 1178 yards and 7 TDs on the season.In any case, that first week certainly ended well for Cadillac.
Contrary to popular belief, Cadillac wasn't actually 1A to Ronnie Brown's 1B at Auburn. He was full blown 1. He wasn't the workhorse that Cedric Benson or Ray Rice were, but he averaged 240 carries his last 2 years at Auburn and dwarfed Brown's carry #s. By comparison, Doug Martin averaged 230 his last 2 seasons.I also don't understand the theory that they shouldn't run him out there unless he's ready to handle a full compliment of carries. That's understandable from a FF point of view, but not a football one at all.
 
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns

Beat writer Steve Doerschuk's "best guess" is that Trent Richardson (knee scopes) will get "about 10 carries" in the season opener, but "there still is a chance he won't play at all."

Doerschuk confirms Richardson looked "quick and fast" in Monday's return to practice. If the rookie plays well in his first couple of games, his workload is expected to increase to 15-to-20 carries per game by October. As it's shaping up at mid-week, however, this backfield has no clear-cut fantasy starter for Week 1 versus the Eagles.

The "not playing at all" bit makes me a little leary of this guy. Any Cleveland homers know about his record of accuracy? I always see Mary Kay Cabot connected to Cleveland sports.
IMO a guy is either healthy or he's not. If he's healthy you give him the full load, no 'easing him in' if he's not 100%.
I couldn't agree more. If he's not healthy enough for a full workload, then he shouldn't be out there until he is. If he is healthy for a full workload and he's your best option and you don't give him one, then you are doing your team (and fans) a disservice.I don't see how it makes any sense for Richardson or the team to "ease him in."
He might be healthy enough but not in game shape yet to take the full load.
How out of shape does a elite athlete get in 4 weeks?

 
Practiced again today.

BEREA, Ohio (AP) -- Trent Richardson's pro debut, delayed by an unexpected surgery, appears to be on schedule.The Browns rookie running back practiced again Wednesday for the second time since having knee surgery on Aug. 9. The No. 3 overall pick in April's draft, Richardson is expected to play and perhaps even start Sunday when Cleveland opens the season at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.Richardson missed the entire preseason, but the Browns believe the former Alabama star is prepared to play despite a lack of contact.Eagles coach Andy Reid said the 5-foot-9, 230-pound Richardson is ''built for the NFL with speed, toughness, quickness, and you better wrap him up and make sure that you tackle well with him.''Browns coach Pat Shurmur said if Richardson is able to play this week he will star
 
So looking like barring an unforeseen setback he plays, and starts. Holmgren and Shurmur are talking at cross-purposes when it comes to his carries.

I bet he starts, sees about 15 carries, about 80 rushing, and comes out on obvious passing downs, so only 2 receptions for 15 yards. I think a TD is going to depend on the rest of the offense to see if they even get in the redzone. If they get within the five he'll get a TD.

 
So looking like barring an unforeseen setback he plays, and starts. Holmgren and Shurmur are talking at cross-purposes when it comes to his carries.I bet he starts, sees about 15 carries, about 80 rushing, and comes out on obvious passing downs, so only 2 receptions for 15 yards. I think a TD is going to depend on the rest of the offense to see if they even get in the redzone. If they get within the five he'll get a TD.
Why would he come out on obvious passing downs? He is the best choice there as well, and is the starting 3rd down back.
 
IMO a guy is either healthy or he's not. If he's healthy you give him the full load, no 'easing him in' if he's not 100%.
Not sure I agree -- it's not binary. The day your cast comes off 6 weeks after breaking your leg, it may be 100% healed but you don't just immediately hit the track and do wind-sprints; you are going to want to test out how it handles bearing loads again and give the muscles and ligaments a chance to bounce back from any atrophy. Yes, I know -- the time-frame, nature of the injury, TR's elite conditioning and elite medical care are not analogous to the average John Q. Public working out the gimps after blowing a tibia. But I think the general concept still holds.I don't think anyone wants to rush a franchise-building rookie at a crucial skill position who hasn't played a down in preseason back too early. TR may be the special kind of athlete that hits the NFL and is just as dominant at that level as he was in college, but there is no doubt missing real-time NFL-speed downs all preseason slows the learning curve and adjustment.Not only do I think it's probable that CLE wants to ease their star back in and ensure he is ready to be their bellcow, but I think it's the smart thing to do. It's a long season, and CLE is definitely going to need Richardson to be fully healthy and confident in his abilities.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
The last time I recall a rookie Rb sitting out all of the preseason games and still starting week 1 with a lot of carries was Carnell Williams. That did not end well.

Caddy was not even recovering from recent surgery like Richardson is. I highly doubt Richardson gets more than 8 carries if he plays at all against the Eagles.

I would be happy to be wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this.
It didn't? He ran for 147 yards and 1 TD. The next week? 128 and a TD. The following week? 158 yards. He got hurt in the fourth game after having rushing attempts of 27, 24 and 37, respectively (for a guy who split carries his entire college career), but still ran for 1178 yards and 7 TDs on the season.In any case, that first week certainly ended well for Cadillac.
I was talking about Carnell Williams career, not the 1st game. But then you could likely figure this out for yourself.There are likely other situations of a rookie not playing or practicing at all during preseason but then coming in and getting a large workload right away. I could not think of any besides Williams.

This is the Browns. I still have a bad feeling about Richardson's career because of this. The Browns are likely going with a whole new coaching staff next season after they fail this season and the Walrus gets the boot. Not that Richardson isn't capable of being the man after those changes but those changes cause instability and that is the road I see his career starting with at this point.

 
The last time I recall a rookie Rb sitting out all of the preseason games and still starting week 1 with a lot of carries was Carnell Williams. That did not end well.

Caddy was not even recovering from recent surgery like Richardson is. I highly doubt Richardson gets more than 8 carries if he plays at all against the Eagles.

I would be happy to be wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this.
It didn't? He ran for 147 yards and 1 TD. The next week? 128 and a TD. The following week? 158 yards. He got hurt in the fourth game after having rushing attempts of 27, 24 and 37, respectively (for a guy who split carries his entire college career), but still ran for 1178 yards and 7 TDs on the season.In any case, that first week certainly ended well for Cadillac.
I was talking about Carnell Williams career, not the 1st game. But then you could likely figure this out for yourself.There are likely other situations of a rookie not playing or practicing at all during preseason but then coming in and getting a large workload right away. I could not think of any besides Williams.

This is the Browns. I still have a bad feeling about Richardson's career because of this. The Browns are likely going with a whole new coaching staff next season after they fail this season and the Walrus gets the boot. Not that Richardson isn't capable of being the man after those changes but those changes cause instability and that is the road I see his career starting with at this point.
How would I be able to figure that out? Your post is in a thread titled, "Trent Richardson Week 1 Prediction." How is Cadillac getting hurt in Week 4 of that season relevant at all (assuming Cadillac is relevant, which he isn't) to the topic at hand? Perhaps if you'd said that the Browns might take into account what happened to Cadillac in Week 4 of his rookie season in assessing how much to play Richardson, then you'd have a point.

 
The last time I recall a rookie Rb sitting out all of the preseason games and still starting week 1 with a lot of carries was Carnell Williams. That did not end well.

Caddy was not even recovering from recent surgery like Richardson is. I highly doubt Richardson gets more than 8 carries if he plays at all against the Eagles.

I would be happy to be wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this.
It didn't? He ran for 147 yards and 1 TD. The next week? 128 and a TD. The following week? 158 yards. He got hurt in the fourth game after having rushing attempts of 27, 24 and 37, respectively (for a guy who split carries his entire college career), but still ran for 1178 yards and 7 TDs on the season.In any case, that first week certainly ended well for Cadillac.
I was talking about Carnell Williams career, not the 1st game. But then you could likely figure this out for yourself.There are likely other situations of a rookie not playing or practicing at all during preseason but then coming in and getting a large workload right away. I could not think of any besides Williams.

This is the Browns. I still have a bad feeling about Richardson's career because of this. The Browns are likely going with a whole new coaching staff next season after they fail this season and the Walrus gets the boot. Not that Richardson isn't capable of being the man after those changes but those changes cause instability and that is the road I see his career starting with at this point.
How would I be able to figure that out? Your post is in a thread titled, "Trent Richardson Week 1 Prediction." How is Cadillac getting hurt in Week 4 of that season relevant at all (assuming Cadillac is relevant, which he isn't) to the topic at hand? Perhaps if you'd said that the Browns might take into account what happened to Cadillac in Week 4 of his rookie season in assessing how much to play Richardson, then you'd have a point.
Well since your perspective on Richardson is so narrow (as per the context of the title of this thread, week 1) I would say that the variance of what he could do in week 1 is pretty high. I do not expect him to get more than 8 carries if he does play week 1 because of lack of time practicing and just this week running on land again. The head coach has said that Richardson will not play unless they are comfortable with giving him a full work load. This suggests to me that Richardson may not play in week 1 at all, as how can the coach think Richardson is ready for such a beating right away? From your perspective comparing Richardson to Carnell Williams week 1 performance is not relevant, yet your whole argument is that Caddy performed well in week 1 after not playing at all during the preseason? One of these things cannot be true so I am going to consider it relevant. While past performance cannot predict future production it can at least be used for comparison and such comparison can give you a relative indication of one player compared to their peers.

My perspective is on dynasty. For week one I do not consider Richardson startable.

 
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns

Beat writer Steve Doerschuk's "best guess" is that Trent Richardson (knee scopes) will get "about 10 carries" in the season opener, but "there still is a chance he won't play at all."

Doerschuk confirms Richardson looked "quick and fast" in Monday's return to practice. If the rookie plays well in his first couple of games, his workload is expected to increase to 15-to-20 carries per game by October. As it's shaping up at mid-week, however, this backfield has no clear-cut fantasy starter for Week 1 versus the Eagles.

The "not playing at all" bit makes me a little leary of this guy. Any Cleveland homers know about his record of accuracy? I always see Mary Kay Cabot connected to Cleveland sports.
Have never heard of him
Steve Doerschuk is a writer for a Canton newspaper and every time I read something from him it leads me to believe that he actually lives in Alaska or Guam or something. Canton is not a long drive to Cleveland, but Steve has no contacts or inside info. A writer from a division rival would be more accurate.Everything I can read in between the lines, leads me to believe that Trent will both play and start. The Browns have come off as overly cautious with him in pre-season. I think he'll be limited in carries this week but will get 100 combined yards and maybe a touchdown. If he has early success, maybe more. If he struggles early, maybe less.

 
So looking like barring an unforeseen setback he plays, and starts. Holmgren and Shurmur are talking at cross-purposes when it comes to his carries.I bet he starts, sees about 15 carries, about 80 rushing, and comes out on obvious passing downs, so only 2 receptions for 15 yards. I think a TD is going to depend on the rest of the offense to see if they even get in the redzone. If they get within the five he'll get a TD.
Why would he come out on obvious passing downs? He is the best choice there as well, and is the starting 3rd down back.
i wouldnt be so sure he is a better 3rd down and passing down back than brandon jackson.
 
More grist for the mill:

This article includes an interview with Richardson, his first since the surgery. If you listen to him, it's full steam ahead. I guess you have to take everything with a grain of salt though, and even though he says his knee is fine and he's ready to go, he still mentions that the coaches could decide to proceed with caution. The combination of these two statements really just reinforce that this is still a situation that could go either way.

From a fantasy perspective, then, it's really all about weighing Richardson vs. other options, while taking into consideration your pwn tolerance for risk. Here is a real life example from my lineup (no, I am not asking who to start!)

I need two pick RBs from these options:

Lynch or Turbin -- likely will take one slot

Richardson

Alfred Morris

Cedric Benson

Peyton Hillis

Michael Bush

Seattle RB will take one slot, but after that it's a risk either way...Benson vs. tough D, Morris who the heck knows, Hillis slitting so who knows, Bush splitting but intriguing as well. In the end, if Richardson stays on course that he is at right now, I start him, not because I think he's getting 20 carries, but because I think even with 10-15 carries he may still be my best option of the remaining options. BUT, he clearly has the larger upside, as he could get 20-25 carries. So, I am willing to take the risk with him, as my supporting cast (e.g. Aaron Rodgers, etc.) are strong enough for me to take a little risk here. I guess this is how you have to look at it.

Article below:

http://www.ohio.com/news/top-stories/browns-rookie-trent-richardson-says-he-s-ready-1.332186

Browns rookie Trent Richardson says he’s ready

By Nate Ulrich

Beacon Journal sports writer

BEREA: Rookie running back Trent Richardson believes the only way he won’t play Sunday in the Browns’ regular-season opener against the Philadelphia Eagles is if coach Pat Shurmur decides to err on the side of caution.

Richardson practiced Wednesday for the second time since undergoing arthroscopic surgery Aug. 9 on his left knee to have a piece of loose cartilage removed. In his first interview since the procedure, Richardson said he has not experienced swelling in the knee, it has responded well to the pounding of practice and, in his mind, he’s ready to make his NFL debut on time.

“I think Coach knows best as far as me having a good career and stuff like that, so if he don’t feel like I’m ready, that’d be the only thing that’d keep me out,” said Richardson, the third overall pick in this year’s draft. “But other than that, mentally, I’m ready to go.”

In a radio interview Wednesday with 92.3 The Fan, General Manager Tom Heckert indicated he expects Richardson to play, barring any setbacks.

“Obviously things are looking up, and hopefully he’ll be there,” Heckert said. “Unless anything changes, he’ll be there on Sunday.”

Richardson had limited participation in practice, according to the Browns’ injury report. If Shurmur chooses to play Richardson in Week 1, he might limit his carries.

“Hopefully I get in there [and] there ain’t no limit,” Richardson said. “But if it is, I’m still gonna play every play like it’s my last.

“I feel a major difference in [my knee]. I’ve got fresh legs, so I’m ready to go.”

The Browns had the NFL’s 28th-ranked rushing offense (95.7 yards per game) last season, and they’re counting on Richardson to turn it around. Rushing the ball successfully against the Eagles is vital to combating their stellar pass rush. Last season, they co-led the league with 50 sacks.

“Obviously he’s a huge addition,” rookie quarterback Brandon Weeden said. “Being able to turn and hand him the ball is one of the best plays we have in our playbook. You have to respect him. Guys in the box have to account for him. He’s obviously an extremely gifted runner. I’m excited to see him pass block, I’m excited to see him catch balls out of the backfield, do all those different things. He’s a guy I’m excited to have back in this lineup, and I know he’s chomping at the bit to start playing again.”

Eagles coach Andy Reid refuses to take Richardson lightly, even though he might need to shake off some rust.

“He’s a heck of a football player, so that’s what we’re expecting,” Reid said during a conference call. “You talk about a guy that was a great college player [at the University of Alabama]. He’s built for the NFL game. So we know with him, you’ve got size and speed, toughness, quickness, and you better wrap him up and make sure that you tackle well with him.”

Richardson said the problem in his knee developed over time and was unrelated to the torn meniscus he had repaired in the same knee Feb. 3. He said he could have played in the preseason opener Aug. 10, but the Browns chose to take a proactive route, so it didn’t become more of a serious issue later.

“It doesn’t worry me at all,” said Richardson, who kept up with his conditioning by working out in a pool and running. “I’m very confident in my knee. I try to be 110 percent in everything I do. I know Coach is going to put me in the right situation with the right trainers and our medical staff. They’re doing everything they can to help me get back to 120 percent, not 110. I can tell the big difference now, and it’s not going to give me any trouble down the line. I’m ready to go.”

Richardson will practice in full pads today for the first time since returning. The 5-foot-9, 230-pound Richardson shouldn’t deliver any hits in earnest during practice, but he’ll be tempted.

“I’m very anxious to take a pop and give one,” Richardson said. “In my head, it’s I’m going to get hit or give a hit. To me, if you’re a running back you don’t want to get hit too many times. You want to give that first hit. I can’t wait.”

Sitting out all four exhibition games frustrated Richardson. It tested his patience.

“I couldn’t stand watching the preseason games and not being out there,” Richardson said. “It’s been a long time since I’ve touched the football. I just felt like I’ve got to make sure I’m a part of this team. I’ve got to get on that field and contribute to this team. So just watching them, I was very antsy. I just had to take that time and realize that this might be one of the best things for me as far as resting and getting my leg right. This might be the best thing for my career here.”

The first two seasons of Richardson’s career at Escambia High School in Pensacola, Fla., were derailed by injuries. He tore a ligament in each ankle and had them surgically repaired by Dr. James Andrews, who also performed the recent knee operations.

In other words, conquering adversity is nothing new for Richardson.

“It’s just a minor setback for a major comeback — that’s how I look at it,” he said. “I don’t look at it as being a downer. God put me in situations because he knows I can fight through it. He won’t put me in nothing I can’t bear.”

Nate Ulrich can be reached at nulrich@thebeaconjournal.com. Read the Browns blog at http://www.ohio.com/browns. Follow him on Twitter at www.twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ and on Facebook at www.facebook.com/browns.abj.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I've read coach said he was going to take a 'thumping' today....then I see where KFFL says he was Limited today.

Any updates?

 
(Rotoworld) Trent Richardson (knee) was limited again in Thursday's practice.

Analysis: It was Richardson's first practice in pads since undergoing a knee scope nearly a full month ago. "In my mind, there hasn't been any setbacks in his recovery," coach Pat Shurmur said. Richardson is expected to start Sunday's preseason opener against the Eagles. Beat writer predictions for Richardson's workload are on the rise, topping out with the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram's "15-18" guess Thursday evening.

----------------------------

(FFChamps) According to team beat writer Scott Petrak, Browns running back Trent Richardson (knee) is expected to play this Sunday, Browns coach Pat Shurmur said.

Analysis: Richardson hasn't had any setbacks or swelling. Expect him to get 15 touches Sunday and do enough with those touches to be a solid No. 2 RB option.





 
(Rotoworld) Trent Richardson (knee) was limited again in Thursday's practice.

Analysis: It was Richardson's first practice in pads since undergoing a knee scope nearly a full month ago. "In my mind, there hasn't been any setbacks in his recovery," coach Pat Shurmur said. Richardson is expected to start Sunday's preseason opener against the Eagles. Beat writer predictions for Richardson's workload are on the rise, topping out with the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram's "15-18" guess Thursday evening.

----------------------------

(FFChamps) According to team beat writer Scott Petrak, Browns running back Trent Richardson (knee) is expected to play this Sunday, Browns coach Pat Shurmur said.

Analysis: Richardson hasn't had any setbacks or swelling. Expect him to get 15 touches Sunday and do enough with those touches to be a solid No. 2 RB option.



15 is quite a few...I'd expect that 15 could pretty easily grow if the situation (game) dictates. Sounds like good news all around.
 
everyones guessing no one really knows for sure, its all about guts

if he is suited up and is active, im starting him..

if he is playing well and showing no signs, he will get a full load in my opinion

if he is getting stuffed and looks a bit winded on a the first batch of carries or plays... uh oh, i think he will be limited..

but not guts no glory

active = in lineup for my team

 
Assuming no setbacks, I think he'll be penciled him in for most 1st and 2nd downs with a series off in the 1st half. Re-evaluate at half, unless it's somehow kept close he won't go over 20 touches.

 
Starting him over Reggie Bush this week in my PPR league. Bad matchups for both, but I like TRich's chances better than Reggie's.

 
The last time I recall a rookie Rb sitting out all of the preseason games and still starting week 1 with a lot of carries was Carnell Williams. That did not end well.

Caddy was not even recovering from recent surgery like Richardson is. I highly doubt Richardson gets more than 8 carries if he plays at all against the Eagles.

I would be happy to be wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this.
It didn't? He ran for 147 yards and 1 TD. The next week? 128 and a TD. The following week? 158 yards. He got hurt in the fourth game after having rushing attempts of 27, 24 and 37, respectively (for a guy who split carries his entire college career), but still ran for 1178 yards and 7 TDs on the season.In any case, that first week certainly ended well for Cadillac.
I was talking about Carnell Williams career, not the 1st game. But then you could likely figure this out for yourself.There are likely other situations of a rookie not playing or practicing at all during preseason but then coming in and getting a large workload right away. I could not think of any besides Williams.

This is the Browns. I still have a bad feeling about Richardson's career because of this. The Browns are likely going with a whole new coaching staff next season after they fail this season and the Walrus gets the boot. Not that Richardson isn't capable of being the man after those changes but those changes cause instability and that is the road I see his career starting with at this point.
How would I be able to figure that out? Your post is in a thread titled, "Trent Richardson Week 1 Prediction." How is Cadillac getting hurt in Week 4 of that season relevant at all (assuming Cadillac is relevant, which he isn't) to the topic at hand? Perhaps if you'd said that the Browns might take into account what happened to Cadillac in Week 4 of his rookie season in assessing how much to play Richardson, then you'd have a point.
Well since your perspective on Richardson is so narrow (as per the context of the title of this thread, week 1) I would say that the variance of what he could do in week 1 is pretty high. I do not expect him to get more than 8 carries if he does play week 1 because of lack of time practicing and just this week running on land again. The head coach has said that Richardson will not play unless they are comfortable with giving him a full work load. This suggests to me that Richardson may not play in week 1 at all, as how can the coach think Richardson is ready for such a beating right away? From your perspective comparing Richardson to Carnell Williams week 1 performance is not relevant, yet your whole argument is that Caddy performed well in week 1 after not playing at all during the preseason? One of these things cannot be true so I am going to consider it relevant. While past performance cannot predict future production it can at least be used for comparison and such comparison can give you a relative indication of one player compared to their peers.

My perspective is on dynasty. For week one I do not consider Richardson startable.
My perspective? This is a thread on the Richardson's Week 1 prospects. This isn't my perspective. It's the topic you're in.I didn't bring up Caddy. You did. I was replying to your, "that did not end well," comment. Well, A) for Week 1, yes it did; and B) He ran for almost 1200 yards and 7 TDs that season, so...yes it did.

Caddy is not relevant. Caddy is a completely different person in a completely different system. Unless you think Carnell Williams' performance six years ago (or so) makes it more or less likely Trent Richardson will perform well, then Caddy is completely irrelevant.

 
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns

Trent Richardson (knee) participated in Browns practice again on Friday, and coach Pat Shurmur said afterwards that he was pleased with Richardson's workload on the field.

The Akron Beacon Journal confirms Richardson is "expected" to play against the Eagles after participating in practice each day this week. Richardson's game-day role remains to be seen, although the feeling in Cleveland about it seems to have gotten more optimistic by the day. He's worth a look as an RB2/flex.

A few things have come together this week:

1. Richardson is not affected by the knee surgery

2. A full week of practice has not brought on any setbacks.

3. Estimations of his workload have increased every day.

If all three of these things had not happened this week, I would still be pretty bearish on his production this week, but they did. As things stand now, I am starting him with confidence in both leagues that I have him in. Honestly kinda wishing I had taken him over Doug Martin in my 3rd league.

I'm raising my projection to 18 carries for 85 yards, 3 receptions for 25 yards, and a TD

 
Published Sun Sep 9 6:53:00 a.m. ET 2012

(FFToday) Running back Trent Richardson will start the Cleveland Browns' regular-season opener Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles, team sources confirmed.

Analysis: It looks like the Browns and Richardson are ready to go for the opener. Fantasy owners should expect enough touches to make Richardson a RB2 in all formats for Week 1.

It's hard to predict how many touches etc. If the QB play is horrible and there aren't any holes...who knows. This might be AP all over again. 5'9, 230...total package. ROLL BROWNS!

 
Per Rotoworld:

According to NFL.com's Albert Breer, Trent Richardson (knee) will start at running back for the Browns.

Richardson was questionable all week, but this was the expected outcome with optimism growing by the day. We aren't quite positive of Richardson's role in the offense since he missed the entire preseason, but he is definitely worth a look as a flex play against the Eagles' Wide 9 defense. There should be some holes and running room to be found, and the first-round running back could see upwards of 15 touches. Brandon Jackson will likely be the third-down back.
IMHO, with 15 or so touches, he could fairly easily put up numbers to what we saw Bradshaw do in the opener (about 75 rushing, maybe 10-20 receiving and a TD). I'll take it.
 
According to NFL.com's Albert Breer, Trent Richardson (knee) will start at running back for the Browns.

Richardson was questionable all week, but this was the expected outcome with optimism growing by the day. We aren't quite positive of Richardson's role in the offense since he missed the entire preseason, but he is definitely worth a look as a flex play against the Eagles' Wide 9 defense. There should be some holes and running room to be found, and the first-round running back could see upwards of 15 touches. Brandon Jackson will likely be the third-down back.

 
Per ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Trent Richardson will see "plenty of touches as a runner and receiver" on Sunday.

The news just gets better for Richardson owners as the morning rolls on. NFL.com's Albert Breer adds in that Richardson will be "managed" and spelled on first- and second-downs at times by Montario Hardesty, while Brandon Jackson works in on third down. Richardson has creeped back in as a top-25 running back option for Week 1.

And then this popped up:

While ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Trent Richardson (knee) will see "plenty of touches" Sunday against Philadelphia, NFL Network's Albert Breer reports Richardson will be "managed through the game."

Richardson will not play in third-down/passing situations, being replaced by Brandon Jackson. Breer also reports that Richardson will be "spelled" by Montario Hardesty on early downs. The goal is reportedly to "acclimate" Richardson to game action and make sure he lasts an entire season. Richardson is definitely going to play, but his workload continues to be a big concern for Week 1.

:shrug:

 
Last edited by a moderator:
According to NFL.com's Albert Breer, Trent Richardson (knee) will start at running back for the Browns.Richardson was questionable all week, but this was the expected outcome with optimism growing by the day. We aren't quite positive of Richardson's role in the offense since he missed the entire preseason, but he is definitely worth a look as a flex play against the Eagles' Wide 9 defense. There should be some holes and running room to be found, and the first-round running back could see upwards of 15 touches. Brandon Jackson will likely be the third-down back.
You didn't like the post right above yours? :unsure: Ironically, I was just coming to post the Mort bit. :)
 
thanks for the update guys

starting him with confidence

 
Last edited by a moderator:
According to NFL.com's Albert Breer, Trent Richardson (knee) will start at running back for the Browns.Richardson was questionable all week, but this was the expected outcome with optimism growing by the day. We aren't quite positive of Richardson's role in the offense since he missed the entire preseason, but he is definitely worth a look as a flex play against the Eagles' Wide 9 defense. There should be some holes and running room to be found, and the first-round running back could see upwards of 15 touches. Brandon Jackson will likely be the third-down back.
You didn't like the post right above yours? :unsure: Ironically, I was just coming to post the Mort bit. :)
Sorry....I guess I overlooked it. Blind with excitement....
 
According to NFL.com's Albert Breer, Trent Richardson (knee) will start at running back for the Browns.Richardson was questionable all week, but this was the expected outcome with optimism growing by the day. We aren't quite positive of Richardson's role in the offense since he missed the entire preseason, but he is definitely worth a look as a flex play against the Eagles' Wide 9 defense. There should be some holes and running room to be found, and the first-round running back could see upwards of 15 touches. Brandon Jackson will likely be the third-down back.
You didn't like the post right above yours? :unsure: Ironically, I was just coming to post the Mort bit. :)
Sorry....I guess I overlooked it. Blind with excitement....
I hear ya brother. :football:
 
The timing of the surgery wasn't ideal so the team made the decision to have his kneee scoped AFTER a week of training camp.

Richardson missed the entire pre-season. He hasn't had any full-pad contact since he didn't see that in camp. The original timing of him coming back was thought to be around two-weeks but its already been a full month without any contact.

He is not in football condition since he hasn't had any contact.

If I'm the President or the GM or the HC, and my future depends on this kid playing well I don't rush it. I would be extremely cautious and ease him in.

I wouldn't anticipate very many touches this first time out folks.

This seems like the most reasonable projection I've seen of the first game by the Browns:

My link

... rookie RB Trent Richardson should play but probably won't get anything close to a full workload. Look for a full-fledged RBBC with both RB Moneterio Hardesty and RB Brandon Jackson splitting the bulk of the duties with rookie RB Trent Richardson sprinkled into the mix. I would look for a split of, RB Brandon Jackson 11 carries for 40 yards with 2 receptions for 13 yards, RB Monterio Hardesty 7 carries for 28 yards no receptions, and rookie RB Trent Richardson 6 carries for 20 yards with 3 receptions for 32 yards, yeah I think the game plan would be to use T-Rich as more of a third down pass receiver in the first few games till he proves his knee checks out. None of that is worth a start but things could change quickly by next week.

"Coach is going to put me in the right situation."--Browns RB Trent Richardson
Richardson looked very good in camp on screens.The 'Iggles' have an aggressive pass rush where screens would slow down the wide-nine and possibly catch them out of position but the workload is very likely going to be a RBBC and Richardson probably won't be the primary back this week.

I'd advise sitting him this week if you have that option.

 
I hear alot of your agruments and they are all good but if u guys had the choice who whould u feel better starting Jennings @vikings or TRich?

 
I was totally wrong. Richardson had 19 carries and they did not give the ball to really anyone else.

That being said 2.1 ypc on 19 carries is a defenses dream. I will go ahead and say Richardson is better than this and while the Iggles defense may be pretty good I do not think they are quite this good. Richardson just wasn't game ready enough to deserve so many carries.

I hope the Browns do not ruin Richardsons career. They have not given me confidence in the judgement of their decisions today.

 
I was totally wrong. Richardson had 19 carries and they did not give the ball to really anyone else.That being said 2.1 ypc on 19 carries is a defenses dream. I will go ahead and say Richardson is better than this and while the Iggles defense may be pretty good I do not think they are quite this good. Richardson just wasn't game ready enough to deserve so many carries.I hope the Browns do not ruin Richardsons career. They have not given me confidence in the judgement of their decisions today.
How did he look? I saw one run where he knocked the defenders helmet off. I too worry that this team will be bad for him. The qb situation is a joke. Wide receivers aren't much better.
 
I was totally wrong. Richardson had 19 carries and they did not give the ball to really anyone else.That being said 2.1 ypc on 19 carries is a defenses dream. I will go ahead and say Richardson is better than this and while the Iggles defense may be pretty good I do not think they are quite this good. Richardson just wasn't game ready enough to deserve so many carries.I hope the Browns do not ruin Richardsons career. They have not given me confidence in the judgement of their decisions today.
How did he look? I saw one run where he knocked the defenders helmet off. I too worry that this team will be bad for him. The qb situation is a joke. Wide receivers aren't much better.
He is great at getting stuffed and had stone hands dropping an easy screen.A talented RB would have won the game for the Browns today.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I was totally wrong. Richardson had 19 carries and they did not give the ball to really anyone else.That being said 2.1 ypc on 19 carries is a defenses dream. I will go ahead and say Richardson is better than this and while the Iggles defense may be pretty good I do not think they are quite this good. Richardson just wasn't game ready enough to deserve so many carries.I hope the Browns do not ruin Richardsons career. They have not given me confidence in the judgement of their decisions today.
How did he look? I saw one run where he knocked the defenders helmet off.
I don't know I was watching the Vikings game. How did he look to you?
 
I was totally wrong. Richardson had 19 carries and they did not give the ball to really anyone else.That being said 2.1 ypc on 19 carries is a defenses dream. I will go ahead and say Richardson is better than this and while the Iggles defense may be pretty good I do not think they are quite this good. Richardson just wasn't game ready enough to deserve so many carries.I hope the Browns do not ruin Richardsons career. They have not given me confidence in the judgement of their decisions today.
How did he look? I saw one run where he knocked the defenders helmet off.
I don't know I was watching the Vikings game. How did he look to you?
Great on that one carry I saw.
 
Saw the whole game. The Eagles Run D was surprisingly good (or the Browns O-Line sucked). He had absolutely no room whatsoever. The whole D-Line collapsed the play every single time (except the one 9-yard run where he blew up Kurt Coleman). Not encouraging, but honestly, he had no chance. Can't say that I saw any signs of the knee problem, though really there weren't many chances to get a read either way.

 
Pat Shurmur press conference: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Pat_Shurmur_Press_Conference_99/52cc5e68-7be7-46dc-8368-5d32e5b05347

He sounds a bit desperate already to me. He says there are things over the past 2 months that need to be corrected. At 3:50 he talks about Richardson. He says that Richardson will be better next week. Ryans and Kendricks certainly have to be an upgrade to the Eagles defense, with a rookie QB they can play games with and mostly focus on stopping the run.

 
I am expecting a pretty slow start for Richardson. He is coming back from the knee and has what might be the worst starting QB in the league. Weeden needs to improve quickly or get replaced before Richardson has much of a chance IMO.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top