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Trent Richardson (1 Viewer)

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I am looking for advice from people that love college football. I love NFL football, but I barely watch college. I like to get a read on some of the incoming rookies from college, and I try and watch some bowl games. I watched Michigan State - Alabama and saw Richardson on some carries. What do you guys see him doing in the NFL? Is he workhorse back in the making or will he be part of a rotation??

 
Solid, but not spectacular IMHO.

Not enough explosiveness to be a perennial ProBowler.

Ronnie Brown type numbers at best...depends where he lands obviously.

 
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From what I saw earlier in the season he looked as good if not better than Ingram and folks seem to be pretty high on him. Regardless it all comes down to where he goes, who coaches him and who's in front of him.

 
As a UA student, homer, and fan. Trent is much more talented than Ingram. He is plenty explosive. Check out the Ark run from last year. He'll be the best back in the country next year because Mark should declare Friday he's going.

 
I like him better than Ingram as well.
:thumbup: Ingram is a solid yet not spectacular prospect who will go mid/late 1st round.Trent is an explosive stud who will be a top 10 pick.Ingrams come along every year, richardsons don't.
I love trent but ur way underselling ingram to make some kind of point.
while ingram isn't very explosive that doesn't mean he can't be great. All that was meant is that richardson defines explosion, ingram is more of a grind it out type rb. Both can be successful with different skill sets. It was just weird to see someone define richardson the way the poster i replied to did, it made no sense to knock him in that area.
 
Solid, but not spectacular IMHO.Not enough explosiveness.
I take it you've never seen him, he is extremely explosive. Are you confusing him with ingram? Were talking about trent richardson.
No, I'm not.Darren McFadden was explosive. L.T. was explosive. Chris Johnson was explosive. Trent Richardson reminds me of Ronnie Brown, not sure if he's even as fast as Ronnie.This happens every year in the pool, people always overestimate college players, particularly RBs. No Show Moreno got the same ridiculous hype.
 
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Solid, but not spectacular IMHO.Not enough explosiveness.
I take it you've never seen him, he is extremely explosive. Are you confusing him with ingram? Were talking about trent richardson.
No, I'm not.Darren McFadden was explosive. L.T. was explosive. Chris Johnson was explosive. Trent Richardson reminds me of Ronnie Brown, not sure if he's even as fast as Ronnie.This happens every year in the pool, people always overestimate college players, particularly RBs. No Show Moreno got the same ridiculous hype.
I agree about the over hyping but moreno isn't a very good example. He ran like a 4.6 and the last word used to describe him was explosive. He wasn't all that hyped anyway.Ronnie brown i can see somewhat and without his constant injuries he would have been a lot better.whether or not richardson succeeds is up in the air, but his explosiveness is not in question.
 
I have watched every Trent Richardson carry...and I honestly can't think of a back to compare him to.

The Chris Johnson comparisons are not accurate. He isn't as fast.

But his size/speed/strength combo is amazing.

Richardson absolutely refuses to go down. He drags defenders and delivers punishment. Very hard runner.

He's also very fast.

I look forward to him getting to start fulltime next year to show what he can do. He should be a dynamite pro.

 
Did I miss something or did Richardson declare?

I figured Ingram would could out this year and Richardson was going to stick around at least one more year.

Put me in the Richardson > Ingram camp.

 
How can Richardson declare?? I thought you could not declare until you were three years removed from high school graduation . . .

 
We are talking about Trent Richardson who ran 10 carries for 24 yards against Auburn? He ran for a 52 yard TD against Arkansas - and then had 8 carries for 13 yards the rest of the game.

I'm not sold yet - his frame looks like it's a weight gainer and it could slow him down - he hasn't been consistent hitting holes sometimes and that makes him boom or bust on many carries. Hopefully no one is telling him to leave early.

 
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If you guys could only have one of Ingram or Richardson in your dynasty leagues, who would you want? I've been trying to sort through that debate in my head for weeks

 
I have watched every Trent Richardson carry...and I honestly can't think of a back to compare him to. The Chris Johnson comparisons are not accurate. He isn't as fast.But his size/speed/strength combo is amazing.Richardson absolutely refuses to go down. He drags defenders and delivers punishment. Very hard runner.He's also very fast.I look forward to him getting to start fulltime next year to show what he can do. He should be a dynamite pro.
Marion Barber's mind in Jonathan Stewart's body
 
I have watched every Trent Richardson carry...and I honestly can't think of a back to compare him to. The Chris Johnson comparisons are not accurate. He isn't as fast.But his size/speed/strength combo is amazing.Richardson absolutely refuses to go down. He drags defenders and delivers punishment. Very hard runner.He's also very fast.I look forward to him getting to start fulltime next year to show what he can do. He should be a dynamite pro.
To be clear I wasn't comparing him to AP or CJ in style. Just that he has the tools to be an elite top 2-3 RB in the league.
 
I have watched every Trent Richardson carry...and I honestly can't think of a back to compare him to. The Chris Johnson comparisons are not accurate. He isn't as fast.But his size/speed/strength combo is amazing.Richardson absolutely refuses to go down. He drags defenders and delivers punishment. Very hard runner.He's also very fast.I look forward to him getting to start fulltime next year to show what he can do. He should be a dynamite pro.
Marion Barber's mind in Jonathan Stewart's body
I actually like this description of him. There's little doubt that Richardson has elite physical qualities: speed, size, strength, lateral agility. But when I watch him, there just seems to be something missing, and I think it has to do with his mental intangibles. First off, he's not very good at recognizing and deciding which hole to run through in the line, and I think the reason for this is because of his physical qualities. If he doesn't immediately see a hole to run through, he just tries to create his own with his strength/size/speed by running through or over defenders. That may work in high school and the NCAA, and it may even work at times in the NFL but it's not a good way to achieve consistent success imo. He's just too willing to take on defenders head on, if he does that in the NFL he's just asking to be injured. He has the quickness, lateral agility required to juke tacklers and get away from defenders, but I'm afraid his current running style is going to be so ingrained in him it's going be hard for him to change. Even though I recognize that Richardson has better measurables than Ingram, I'd rather have Ingram if given a choice (plus I think Ingram has better skills to stay on the field for 3rd downs).
 
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We are talking about Trent Richardson who ran 10 carries for 24 yards against Auburn? He ran for a 52 yard TD against Arkansas - and then had 8 carries for 13 yards the rest of the game.I'm not sold yet - his frame looks like it's a weight gainer and it could slow him down - he hasn't been consistent hitting holes sometimes and that makes him boom or bust on many carries. Hopefully no one is telling him to leave early.
That is called cherrypicking information sir...
 
Trent ran a 10.5 100m in the FL state track championship...and he was over 200 pounds then. He's a very unique combo of size and speed.

And as EBF has pointed out, his balance is also very, very good...with a really strong base.

Ingram and Richardson both have strength, balance, receiving ability, blocking ability, and are strong mentally...but while Ingram has better vision, Richardson is faster and has a better burst.

 
We are talking about Trent Richardson who ran 10 carries for 24 yards against Auburn? He ran for a 52 yard TD against Arkansas - and then had 8 carries for 13 yards the rest of the game.I'm not sold yet - his frame looks like it's a weight gainer and it could slow him down - he hasn't been consistent hitting holes sometimes and that makes him boom or bust on many carries. Hopefully no one is telling him to leave early.
What about when he started? San Jose St- 13 touches for 112 and 2 tdsPenn St.- 26 touches for 210 and 1 td.He's the most athletic RB to ever play for Alabama. He stepped onto campus bigger than linebackers at a SEC school. So no, he isn't CJ, lol. He isn't slow either, he's a freak.And edit. Since you don't know anything, nobody is telling him to leave. He is a true junior in 2011.
 
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I also like Richardson over Ingram. Richardson just has physical tools that Ingram doesn't, although I also think Ingram will be a good NFL rb.

 
Solid, but not spectacular IMHO.

Not enough explosiveness.
I take it you've never seen him, he is extremely explosive. Are you confusing him with ingram? Were talking about trent richardson.
No, I'm not.Darren McFadden was explosive. L.T. was explosive. Chris Johnson was explosive.

Trent Richardson reminds me of Ronnie Brown, not sure if he's even as fast as Ronnie.

This happens every year in the pool, people always overestimate college players, particularly RBs.

No Show Moreno got the same ridiculous hype.
Poor comparison.Moreno was a guy that most bigtime college football pundits on here didn't really like. He was simply one of the better backs in a down year for backs. The board was split on whether he'd even amount to an average back.

Richardson, however, is a guy whom college football pundits on here were raving over when the rest of the country hadn't even heard of him and was too fixated on Mark Ingram to even know Richardson existed. Most real college football fans liked Richardson over Ingram before liking Richardson over Ingram was cool. If it were just a "flavor of the year" kind of thing then Ingram would have been the very, very easy choice for that. At the time, no one outside that circle even knew who Richardson was. There were much easier targets for what you're describing.

 
We are talking about Trent Richardson who ran 10 carries for 24 yards against Auburn? He ran for a 52 yard TD against Arkansas - and then had 8 carries for 13 yards the rest of the game.

I'm not sold yet - his frame looks like it's a weight gainer and it could slow him down - he hasn't been consistent hitting holes sometimes and that makes him boom or bust on many carries. Hopefully no one is telling him to leave early.
What about when he started? San Jose St- 13 touches for 112 and 2 tds

Penn St.- 26 touches for 210 and 1 td.

He's the most athletic RB to ever play for Alabama. He stepped onto campus bigger than linebackers at a SEC school. So no, he isn't CJ, lol. He isn't slow either, he's a freak.

And edit. Since you don't know anything, nobody is telling him to leave. He is a true junior in 2011.
From my eyeball test - Shaun Alexander was better - Bobby Humphrey maybe as well. Richardson may have some "stats" to back up the athleticism but I just have it seen it play out on the football field yet. Not sure I would whip up a lot of platitudes with a performance against SJST - the Penn State performance was good. But in a big game when they had the lead he wasn't helping extend drives against Auburn. He has trouble hitting the hole and he also needs to work on catching the ball out of the backfield. I knew he wasn't draft eligible - I am just hoping no one is telling him to even consider leaving after next year - he has a lot of football to learn in my opinion. He may become that awesome back - but Ron Dayne went wild in college and when he got to the NFL he couldn't get through a hole. Richardson so far is reminiscent of Ron Dayne in my eyes - not Tony Dorsett.
 
We are talking about Trent Richardson who ran 10 carries for 24 yards against Auburn? He ran for a 52 yard TD against Arkansas - and then had 8 carries for 13 yards the rest of the game.

I'm not sold yet - his frame looks like it's a weight gainer and it could slow him down - he hasn't been consistent hitting holes sometimes and that makes him boom or bust on many carries. Hopefully no one is telling him to leave early.
What about when he started? San Jose St- 13 touches for 112 and 2 tds

Penn St.- 26 touches for 210 and 1 td.

He's the most athletic RB to ever play for Alabama. He stepped onto campus bigger than linebackers at a SEC school. So no, he isn't CJ, lol. He isn't slow either, he's a freak.

And edit. Since you don't know anything, nobody is telling him to leave. He is a true junior in 2011.
From my eyeball test - Shaun Alexander was better - Bobby Humphrey maybe as well. Richardson may have some "stats" to back up the athleticism but I just have it seen it play out on the football field yet. Not sure I would whip up a lot of platitudes with a performance against SJST - the Penn State performance was good. But in a big game when they had the lead he wasn't helping extend drives against Auburn. He has trouble hitting the hole and he also needs to work on catching the ball out of the backfield. I knew he wasn't draft eligible - I am just hoping no one is telling him to even consider leaving after next year - he has a lot of football to learn in my opinion. He may become that awesome back - but Ron Dayne went wild in college and when he got to the NFL he couldn't get through a hole. Richardson so far is reminiscent of Ron Dayne in my eyes - not Tony Dorsett.
Not to be rude but if you are in any way comparing Richardson to Ron Dayne then you have no idea what you are talking about
 
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From my eyeball test - Shaun Alexander was better - Bobby Humphrey maybe as well. Richardson may have some "stats" to back up the athleticism but I just have it seen it play out on the football field yet. Not sure I would whip up a lot of platitudes with a performance against SJST - the Penn State performance was good. But in a big game when they had the lead he wasn't helping extend drives against Auburn. He has trouble hitting the hole and he also needs to work on catching the ball out of the backfield. I knew he wasn't draft eligible - I am just hoping no one is telling him to even consider leaving after next year - he has a lot of football to learn in my opinion. He may become that awesome back - but Ron Dayne went wild in college and when he got to the NFL he couldn't get through a hole. Richardson so far is reminiscent of Ron Dayne in my eyes - not Tony Dorsett.
Trent was coming off a knee injury and 3 week absense against Auburn. And the only reason he's been compared to Emmitt is that they went to the same highschool...he's definitely a different style runner.
 
Richardson is better than Ingram. He is what MJD would be if he ran violently. His strength is unbelievable!

You straight-up cannot tackle this kid one-on-one. That's asking to be hurt. That said, he is still very raw. He will develop more next season and I believe you will see him become a better player. Let's not forget this was only his 2nd season at Bama.

And there is no way in the world that Bobby Humphrey was better than Richardson. I'm a big Bama fan......and that made me laugh!

 
Richardson is better than Ingram. He is what MJD would be if he ran violently. His strength is unbelievable!

You straight-up cannot tackle this kid one-on-one. That's asking to be hurt. That said, he is still very raw. He will develop more next season and I believe you will see him become a better player. Let's not forget this was only his 2nd season at Bama.

And there is no way in the world that Bobby Humphrey was better than Richardson. I'm a big Bama fan......and that made me laugh!

Kinda remind me of Jonathan Stewart when he came out of Oregon U. They said he is a genetic freak in his size, speed, strength, and athletic ability (SPARQ?).
 
Richardson is better than Ingram. He is what MJD would be if he ran violently. His strength is unbelievable!

You straight-up cannot tackle this kid one-on-one. That's asking to be hurt. That said, he is still very raw. He will develop more next season and I believe you will see him become a better player. Let's not forget this was only his 2nd season at Bama.

And there is no way in the world that Bobby Humphrey was better than Richardson. I'm a big Bama fan......and that made me laugh!

Made me laugh too. Talent/athleticism wise. We've never had a back like TR. Not even close.
 
We are talking about a kid that went to the same HS as Emmitt Smith, AND broke his rushing records. The kid is a physical freak and I agree with some that he may have a little too much size that slows him down but believe if he trims down he could be amazing. He is already plenty fast as he is, and definitely every bit as fast as Ronnie Brown. I will agree he has more potential than Ingram, but theres no need to throw him under the bus. This is a Heisman winner we are talking about, and I expect both to be successful #1 RBs in the NFL.

 
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