PahtyTom
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Chitown just know that plenty of us appreciate your contributions a great deal.
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Wasn't an insult but in all honesty, if you work for the Texans it isn't a stretch to say you can come with more biases than others.I am still waiting on your response when I said one ran vs. starters and the other did not and why that doesn't seem to matter to you. Let me know.
I've had it out with Richard in personal e-mails, it's pretty common knowledge that everyone in Houston think's this guy is a clown.PS that Richard Justice quote is just based on preseason speculation about Morency. Justice is a BASEBALL writer and doesn't know his head from his ### when it comes to football. I'm sure I'm biased on that one too.
Wasn't an attack but when someone says one back looked like a rookie when the other didn't yesterday is flat out false. PLUS, one back played against many scrubs while the other played mainly against NFL starters. Why that doesn't matter to him, I really would like to know. No need to dodge it.
Chitown Mole
Footballguy
Biased? Both guys are Texans. I don't understand the bias....perhaps it's just a ####### question.I just comment on talent. Morency ran like I said he would when given a chance. He ran well last year too if you were paying attention. He had a few really explosive runs in the regular season...and it wasn't against scrubs either Einstein. Morency is clearly the most talented back on the roster. I stand by that.
Dudley Dawson
Footballguy
I didn't see the game so I can't speak for how either player looked...but if Morency scored against the 2nd stringers, he probably had the 2nd string O-line blocking for him as well correct?
I'm not sure if that justifies anything about RB performance but I do belive that it must be taken into consideration.
I'm not sure if that justifies anything about RB performance but I do belive that it must be taken into consideration.
Bristol
Footballguy
I can't speak for last night, but most teams leave the first string line in for quite a bit so they can get chemistry.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
i agree CHItown and im a diehard TEXAN fan.....ive been following Morencey since we drafted him when he ran a 4.67 at the combine (was injured at the time). Skillset wise i always liked him more than DD.....DD had heart though....and his leg drive was awesome, and he never gave up on a play and had great hands...BASICALLY he was our offense. But he left alot to be desired when comparing DD with other good rb's in the nfl....i guess he cant have it all....
But VM lacked experiency, and even last year against the niners he showed what kind of skills he possed....Although it was the niners....Still you can see the talent....
Hey for anyone that follow Gore, don they seem very very similar????
I wont agrue with anyone liking Lundy, he does 1 thing GREAT, he is a one cut north/south runner ie Mike Anderson. Nothing flashy though.... But he needs work on Pass protection and catching the ball. otherwise he is a nice compliment for our team.
But VM lacked experiency, and even last year against the niners he showed what kind of skills he possed....Although it was the niners....Still you can see the talent....
Hey for anyone that follow Gore, don they seem very very similar????
I wont agrue with anyone liking Lundy, he does 1 thing GREAT, he is a one cut north/south runner ie Mike Anderson. Nothing flashy though.... But he needs work on Pass protection and catching the ball. otherwise he is a nice compliment for our team.
ffchamp1
Footballguy
MoleWe get it, you work for the Texans, are on the field, are talking with coaches, are sifting through laundry baskets for jerseys and you are not biased.Lundy/Morency battle will continue and we look forward to your insight over the next couple of weeks. Is it just me or will all this be a non-issue if and when DD takes the field?TomPS that Richard Justice quote is just based on preseason speculation about Morency. Justice is a BASEBALL writer and doesn't know his head from his ### when it comes to football. I'm sure I'm biased on that one too.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
thats a big if....even when he do with an injury like he has it will swell again and he will be a gametime every week....(imo) Its not like DD was a high 1st rounder....he was drafted pretty similar to where Morencey was drafted....and he seized the role. He can be overtaken as well...especially if we arent getting any returns. I wish well for him....he's a good guy. But i hate what has happened to him. :(Is it just me or will all this be a non-issue if and when DD takes the field?TomPS that Richard Justice quote is just based on preseason speculation about Morency. Justice is a BASEBALL writer and doesn't know his head from his ### when it comes to football. I'm sure I'm biased on that one too.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see Davis at all. I think Morency and Lundy will both play quite a bit, and you might be wishing you had the other one on a game-by-game basis. Even if Davis does make it back, these other two might be in the process of earning playing time anyway. RBBC all the way....
wannabee
Footballguy
tom, that is a low blow to Chitown. He works for houstontexans.com and gets a lot of info from there and sees a ton. I trust his insight on this issueMoleWe get it, you work for the Texans, are on the field, are talking with coaches, are sifting through laundry baskets for jerseys and you are not biased.PS that Richard Justice quote is just based on preseason speculation about Morency. Justice is a BASEBALL writer and doesn't know his head from his ### when it comes to football. I'm sure I'm biased on that one too.
Lundy/Morency battle will continue and we look forward to your insight over the next couple of weeks. Is it just me or will all this be a non-issue if and when DD takes the field?
Tom
Houston turmOiler
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I've watched every Texans' game ever and I share this same opinion. In regard to 1st team Rams D vs. 2nd team Rams D, it really didn't matter from what I saw last night. Morency looked more explosive and did a good job taking on the blitz. Lundy hasn't looked that quick or powerful in the two games we've seen him, but he has run well. Doesn't really matter though, both guys are going to play when Davis misses time IMO. I like Morency, some of you like Lundy better. We'll probably each be right half the time b/c I think both are going to earn playing time...BTW, I've been on this board for quite a long time (don't get to post a lot, kids etc.) and I've always thought Chitown has been a great source of UNBIASED information. Those of you accusing him of being biased have the right to your own opinion, but in mine you're way out in left field. There are way too many posters on this board that you should just keep scrolling past when you get to their post, and Chitown ain't one of 'em. I'd say this even if I disagreed with him...
Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
What are the chances A. Smith gets cut?
Thanks for the info.
Can you honestly answer my simple question. Does running against starting NFL players mean anything more than running against players who won't play in the NFL?Simple question, quit sidestepping it.
MoleWe get it, you work for the Texans, are on the field, are talking with coaches, are sifting through laundry baskets for jerseys and you are not biased.Lundy/Morency battle will continue and we look forward to your insight over the next couple of weeks. Is it just me or will all this be a non-issue if and when DD takes the field?TomPS that Richard Justice quote is just based on preseason speculation about Morency. Justice is a BASEBALL writer and doesn't know his head from his ### when it comes to football. I'm sure I'm biased on that one too.
Hey Mole, where do you work for the Texans? I have a few buddies who work for them.There was this quote from fanball today.....
The Houston Chronicle reports Vernand Morency (hamstring) does not fit coach Gary Kubiak's system. He approaches the line of scrimmage deliberately as he moves left and right feeling for an opening. Kubiak is looking for a back who trusts his blocking and makes on cut and goes. Kubiak said, "It's difficult to do what we ask him to do because that wasn't his style.
I am didn't see the game so don't really know what they are talking about. I sort of assumed that Morency would change his style to fit Kubiak's scheme. If he doens't I don' t know if he will get the nod, but I thought last year that he was the most talented RB the Texans had and that probably hasn't changed. Can he be a one cut runner? He is more likely to keep Carr upright which may enter into the formula as well.
The Houston Chronicle reports Vernand Morency (hamstring) does not fit coach Gary Kubiak's system. He approaches the line of scrimmage deliberately as he moves left and right feeling for an opening. Kubiak is looking for a back who trusts his blocking and makes on cut and goes. Kubiak said, "It's difficult to do what we ask him to do because that wasn't his style.
I am didn't see the game so don't really know what they are talking about. I sort of assumed that Morency would change his style to fit Kubiak's scheme. If he doens't I don' t know if he will get the nod, but I thought last year that he was the most talented RB the Texans had and that probably hasn't changed. Can he be a one cut runner? He is more likely to keep Carr upright which may enter into the formula as well.
This was brought up during the game as well about how disapointed Kubiak was with Morency because he simply wouldn't run north to south last year and in many cases danced side to side. Morency though showed last night that IF he can run north to south, he should be better. Will he slide back to last year's play? If he wants to play then he better. I think the Texans has a great shot at having three RB to use as a RBBC system. Time will tell.
This was brought up during the game as well about how disapointed Kubiak was with Morency because he simply wouldn't run north to south last year and in many cases danced side to side. Morency though showed last night that IF he can run north to south, he should be better. Will he slide back to last year's play? If he wants to play then he better.
I think the Texans has a great shot at having three RB to use as a RBBC system. Time will tell.
So has he been able to reinvent himself into a north south runner or is he still dancing with the stars?
I think the Texans has a great shot at having three RB to use as a RBBC system. Time will tell.
So has he been able to reinvent himself into a north south runner or is he still dancing with the stars?
Todem
Footballguy
So why does Lundi continue to run first team?
Screamin' SphinX
Footballguy
I think Fanball may be a step behind. Most of the news on Morency in Houston lately has been about how he is doing the things Kubiak wants him to do and that Kubiak is high on him if he can make the changes to fit into his scheme.The following is an excerpt from an article in the Houston Chronicle 8/18/06 - full article here
...Kubiak told him to stop dancing, make his one cut and take off downhill immediately.
"That's a hard habit to break because that's the way he's been running for so long," Kubiak said. "Vernand's very athletic, and he can make people miss. But once he saw what we wanted from our backs, he started to adjust."...
..."I had a nice, long talk in the steam room with Vernand this week," Kubiak said. "I don't want him to be hesitant when he gets the ball. I want him to take the handoff, make the cut and then just cut it loose.
"I think he's going to do very well. I'm excited to see him."...
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Morency appears to have done exactly what was asked of him last night. I have concerns about him from the standpoint of DD coming back, but if you think DD may be out a while I really think Morency is the guy to get.
Thank you!
amnesiac
beer is good
wannabee
Footballguy
Texans | Kubiak discusses Morency performance
Published Sun Aug 20 9:04:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) HoustonTexans.com reports Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak discussed RB Vernand Morency's performance during the preseason game Saturday, Aug. 19. " I liked the way he got the ball downhill, which is something we've been preaching to him. Also, one of the things I was impressed with was that he struggled with pass protection in camp and understanding schemes, understanding protections and blocking schemes. He's had some mistakes, he was mistake-free in that department in the game. I thought he was very aggressive cutting people, very aggressive on a couple of blitzes. You have to be able to do that as a back, you have to be able to hold up in there against the blitz. He did some good stuff; he wore down a bit there, and I told him I want him to be able to go all day, but it was encouraging to see him play well." Kubiak did not say if Morency earned another start at running back.
Published Sun Aug 20 9:04:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) HoustonTexans.com reports Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak discussed RB Vernand Morency's performance during the preseason game Saturday, Aug. 19. " I liked the way he got the ball downhill, which is something we've been preaching to him. Also, one of the things I was impressed with was that he struggled with pass protection in camp and understanding schemes, understanding protections and blocking schemes. He's had some mistakes, he was mistake-free in that department in the game. I thought he was very aggressive cutting people, very aggressive on a couple of blitzes. You have to be able to do that as a back, you have to be able to hold up in there against the blitz. He did some good stuff; he wore down a bit there, and I told him I want him to be able to go all day, but it was encouraging to see him play well." Kubiak did not say if Morency earned another start at running back.
Otis
Footballguy
I BEG you. Please don't do that.Won't say I told you so but...
Texans coach Gary Kubiak confirmed the Texans expect to use a Running Back by Committee in Week 1.
Speaking of this weekend's preseason game, Kubiak said, "Wali (Lundy) and (RB Vernand) Morency will play the game rotating as if we were playing opening day." This confirms that both running backs are quality fantasy sleepers, although they will be difficult to use because they may cancel each other out. Aug. 25 - 8:01 pm et
Source: HoustonTexans.com
Texans coach Gary Kubiak confirmed the Texans expect to use a Running Back by Committee in Week 1.
Speaking of this weekend's preseason game, Kubiak said, "Wali (Lundy) and (RB Vernand) Morency will play the game rotating as if we were playing opening day." This confirms that both running backs are quality fantasy sleepers, although they will be difficult to use because they may cancel each other out. Aug. 25 - 8:01 pm et
Source: HoustonTexans.com
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Footballguy
Righetti
Footballguy
Antfarm Smith was terrible when he was good
