He might fail an alcohol test, but this probably isn't even his best season as a hitter. He had a 179 OPS+ last year, and 178+ the year before. This year he hit more homers, walked less and took half the intentional walks he did two years ago. Now imagine VMART hitting behind Fielder, he's gonna be an even bigger monster next year because they have no choice but to pitch to him. As a Tigers fan you go just so long over the course of a week or ten days and he steps up there with runners on late, and you know he's gonna hit one off or over the fence because he's like a clock. There are only a few players in my lifetime in baseball I've thought that about and that was a lot of the steroid years. This guy is just ridiculous, he really is.Gonna suck next year when he fails a drug test:shortbus:
Every last dime? Who knows what the WS have in the coffers but my point is this- the Tigers had no business making that deal based on the fact that Willis is done and Miggy is vastly overrated for the money they paid him. Can they afford to lose the fanbase there 3 years removed from such pathetic attendance numbers? It is clear that he will hit but when the weather warms. His defense is very laughable. As you know- A-rod is worth every penny that he makes by today's bloated salary standard. He is clearly the best player in the game and I will take him any time anywhere and so will any and every MLB team that can afford him.You said that the Tigers overpaid Miggy. It was one of your 24 posts that supposedly makes sense in the Tigers thread. At .50 on the dollar, compared to A Rod, who you wanted the White Sox to spend every last dime on, Miggy is a flat out bargain.Hmmm really seems like post #112 has the typical half baked LD defense.Never said better you illiterate foolThere's my whipping boy. Anytime you want to go at it up here LD. I am still waiting for you to fill me up about how MIGGY is better than A-Rod....He's a midwest baseball fan.You seem obsessed with the Tigers, you have more posts in their thread than this one. What kind of pathetic Sox fan are you?Are we supposed to be "officially" overrated like those Kittie's? Myself- I an not here to make friends. I learned a long time ago on the FBG boards that having an opinion contrary to others does not allow one to make an impact on the clique. Cliques are for little school girls...
There's no defense needed for my stance because it is right.
For the record- my posts in the OFFICIAL Tiger thread make mention of the fact that the team is overrated. Is that wrong? They will be lucky to see .500 this year.
Whatever who cares. You guys are going to suck this year. Enjoy your Miggy and his silly salary. Chumps.
15 wins for that overrated Tiger team might be par the course. Good to see that you are about to be swept by KC. Looks like you guys just gave MIGGY a boatload of money to suck. Is Matt Millen giving GM tips these days? The Tiger pitching staff looks vulnerable!Too bad that's the only team you can beat. Must suck looking forward to a 15 win season.Good to see the Tigers lose.![]()
SLGL .6061OBP .3931OPS .9992Congrats to Cabrera, that's pretty sick.I saw after they pulled him his OPS was a .999, anyone know if that'll round up to an even 1.000?
dang, oh well, still a hell of a year.SLGL .6061OBP .3931OPS .9992Congrats to Cabrera, that's pretty sick.I saw after they pulled him his OPS was a .999, anyone know if that'll round up to an even 1.000?
those are my numbers though, nothing official. He finished like .32962 or something so .330. Lead the league in HR, RBI, AVG, SLG, total bases and OPS.dang, oh well, still a hell of a year.SLGL .6061OBP .3931OPS .9992Congrats to Cabrera, that's pretty sick.I saw after they pulled him his OPS was a .999, anyone know if that'll round up to an even 1.000?
He can enjoy it if he wants. I needed a new sig, it works.Holy crap Limpy, I'd add one of those as my sig but I think he'd actually enjoy that. Also I noticed the White Sox took their nosedive about the same time he came back to posting in your thread (yes I;m superstitious as dumb as it is). Those quotes are priceless though, great beagling.
Holy crap Limpy, I'd add one of those as my sig but I think he'd actually enjoy that. Also I noticed the White Sox took their nosedive about the same time he came back to posting in your thread (yes I;m superstitious as dumb as it is). Those quotes are priceless though, great beagling.
Non steroid:1.HornsbyWhere does he rank in terms of the best right-handed hitters ever conversation?
Hank Aaron down?Non steroid:1.HornsbyWhere does he rank in terms of the best right-handed hitters ever conversation?
2. Foxx
3. DiMaggio
Pujols
Cabrera
Mays
Greenberg
Kiner
Steriod guys:
Frank Thomas
Manny
Edgar Martinez
I think he's a bigger, stronger Edgar Martinez. The thing is he is not a power hitter but a hitter that hits for power. As he gets older his power numbers will fall but he's still gonna hit .320 every year, he's that good. Eephus is the only one who saw all those guys play, maybe he can tell us how good Hornsby really was. He has to be #1, I don't think anyone will ever catch him.
He should.Just a sick year. Hope he wins the MVP.
Wait a minute, you're putting Frank Thomas in the roid guys and keeping Pujols out?Non steroid:1.HornsbyWhere does he rank in terms of the best right-handed hitters ever conversation?
2. Foxx
3. DiMaggio
Pujols
Cabrera
Mays
Greenberg
Kiner
Steriod guys:
Frank Thomas
Manny
Edgar Martinez
I think he's a bigger, stronger Edgar Martinez. The thing is he is not a power hitter but a hitter that hits for power. As he gets older his power numbers will fall but he's still gonna hit .320 every year, he's that good. Eephus is the only one who saw all those guys play, maybe he can tell us how good Hornsby really was. He has to be #1, I don't think anyone will ever catch him.
I still say they should have held on to Burke Badenhop.December 4, 2007: Traded by the Florida Marlins with Dontrelle Willis to the Detroit Tigers for Dallas Trahern (minors), Burke Badenhop, Eulogio De La Cruz, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller and Mike Rabelo.
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Should have put "era" because I'm not making accusations.Wait a minute, you're putting Frank Thomas in the roid guys and keeping Pujols out?
Omitted but not on purpose.Hank Aaron down?
Why not? The lack of steroids in the game can bring the all-arounders back in the mix for the HR component.I definitely didn't think we would see one of these again. With the Ishiro and Mauer types plus guys like Reynolds and Dunn kicking around. Pretty amazing considering the current state of the game.![]()
I agree. It is tough to have that kind of power and compete with the slap hitters like Ichiro and Mauer for the batting title as well. Could be another 45 before it happens again.I definitely didn't think we would see one of these again. With the Ishiro and Mauer types plus guys like Reynolds and Dunn kicking around. Pretty amazing considering the current state of the game.![]()
Yup ...very, very special.I agree. It is tough to have that kind of power and compete with the slap hitters like Ichiro and Mauer for the batting title as well. Could be another 45 before it happens again.I definitely didn't think we would see one of these again. With the Ishiro and Mauer types plus guys like Reynolds and Dunn kicking around. Pretty amazing considering the current state of the game.![]()
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last night, just for old times sake??
Yeah, comparing an accident to breaking the law and beating up your wife is the same.Hamilton and Washington get thrown under the bus daily with this group. I figure one the other way wouldn't hurt.So do you think to celebrate Cabrera did a little![]()
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last night, just for old times sake??
So do you think Josh Hamilton murdered another father right in front of his son last night for old times sake?
You asked a stupid question and got an equally stupid response. Exactly what you deserved.Yeah, comparing an accident to breaking the law and beating up your wife is the same.Hamilton and Washington get thrown under the bus daily with this group. I figure one the other way wouldn't hurt.So do you think to celebrate Cabrera did a little![]()
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last night, just for old times sake??
So do you think Josh Hamilton murdered another father right in front of his son last night for old times sake?
45 years passed since the last player hit for the triple crown and you feel the need to crap in the thread appreciating the achivement? Sad.So do you think to celebrate Cabrera did a little![]()
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last night, just for old times sake??
Not with a WAR like his.On PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
yupOn PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
Tony Kornheiser doesn't believe half of the #### he says.yupOn PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
'Greco said:Not with a WAR like his.'Just Win Baby said:On PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
Agree. But it was a rather strong statement that I found a bit surprising. I had never looked closely at Cabrera's career numbers, but I don't think they are worthy on their own. He has never won a major award until now (assuming he wins MVP). So I thought it was an interesting statement.He was essentially saying that winning the Triple Crown is enough. The problem with that statement is that the players who won the Triple Crown in the past had other accomplishments that were good enough to merit HOF induction without the TC.Of course, the whole discussion is presumably moot, since he isn't going to stop playing now.Tony Kornheiser doesn't believe half of the #### he says.yup'Just Win Baby said:On PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
The triple crown is magical, but that's just silly.He was essentially saying that winning the Triple Crown is enough.
Cabrera has his ten seasons in so he'll be on the ballot when he retires. His numbers compare pretty favorably with other HoFers with short careers. Kiner and Hack Wilson are the best straight up comparisons and Cabrera probably wins both. Wilson was a Veteran's Committee selection.The other hitters who got in after short careers had other factors that appealed to voters (Ross Youngs(died young), Jackie Robinson(saint), Campanella(paralyzed), Puckett(injury)).Agree. But it was a rather strong statement that I found a bit surprising. I had never looked closely at Cabrera's career numbers, but I don't think they are worthy on their own. He has never won a major award until now (assuming he wins MVP). So I thought it was an interesting statement.He was essentially saying that winning the Triple Crown is enough. The problem with that statement is that the players who won the Triple Crown in the past had other accomplishments that were good enough to merit HOF induction without the TC.Of course, the whole discussion is presumably moot, since he isn't going to stop playing now.Tony Kornheiser doesn't believe half of the #### he says.yup'Just Win Baby said:On PTI today, Kornheiser said he is a HOFer if he never plays another game. Do you agree with that?
Your all class Limp. Must eat at you all day to go dig out a thread from 4 years ago. Good for you champ. Gee I underrated a baseball player from 4 years ago. I figure it must have taken you 2 hours to find that thread and then edit your posts. Bravado in a Detroit themed thread. I am so glad that I have a life but I cannot say the same for you. Cub fan one day, suddenly a Sox fan in 2005. I actually felt happy for Miggy. A great baseball story. I must say that it was even better watching him crush the Cubs in that NLDS. You recall that series. You must have cried like you do whan I rip your boy...Rather than pollute the Tiger threads, come on over to the Sox thread and talk to me about White Sox baseball. We can talk about how yer boy dropped 65 million on a stiff or anything else you would like to talk about. I am mostly interested in discussing my theory on why yer boy GM Kenny would never see another championship as long as he is the WS GM...Holy crap Limpy, I'd add one of those as my sig but I think he'd actually enjoy that. Also I noticed the White Sox took their nosedive about the same time he came back to posting in your thread (yes I;m superstitious as dumb as it is). Those quotes are priceless though, great beagling.![]()
Ohh I did not know that you were tracking my posts. Another message board cowboy. What a life. Hanging around a message board monitoring people's posts. For the record, I was probably the only Sox fan that predicted a winning year for the team back in April. I "came around" to post when I had spare time because I actually have a life. Gee great "beagling"? Wow Miggy is so awesome it takes some clown a few hours to go dig out a thread from 4 years ago to give you a bonner. Maybe yer love barge can go dig out the other 99% of threads in which I kicked him up and down the baseball boards. The Sox did not need me to curse them with a "nosedive" dr. dummy- they have a GM that is more than capable of doing that...Holy crap Limpy, I'd add one of those as my sig but I think he'd actually enjoy that. Also I noticed the White Sox took their nosedive about the same time he came back to posting in your thread (yes I;m superstitious as dumb as it is). Those quotes are priceless though, great beagling.