Trivia...sort of...I don't know the answer (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

Which foursome (QB, RB, WR, TE) had the highest Value in a year?The top one I found is the 1994 49ers.Steve Young 179Ricky Watters 98Jerry Rice 141Brent Jones 68Total 486Can anyone find a better group?

 

[CalBear]

1987 Niners are competitive:Montana: 132Rice: 216Craig: 51Frank: 1399; not bad for a strike year.

 

[bagger.]

i would imagine this would depend on what baseline you are using.

 

[dgreen]

I keep randomly picking teams to add up and they're all killed by the TE.The 1999 Rams are:Warner 153Faulk 185Bruce 72No TE > 0Total 410

 

[dgreen]

i would imagine this would depend on what baseline you are using.

I'm just using the Values at pro-football-reference.com.

 

[bagger.]

i would imagine this would depend on what baseline you are using.

I'm just using the Values at pro-football-reference.com.

so you're using whatever baseline Drinen does. do you know what that is?

 

[CalBear]

i would imagine this would depend on what baseline you are using.

I'm just using the Values at pro-football-reference.com.

so you're using whatever baseline Drinen does. do you know what that is?

QB12, TE12, RB24, WR36.

 

[David Yudkin]

2003 Chiefs come closeGreen 38Holmes 231Kennison 18Gonzalez 152439

 

[bagger.]

i would imagine this would depend on what baseline you are using.

I'm just using the Values at pro-football-reference.com.

so you're using whatever baseline Drinen does. do you know what that is?

QB12, TE12, RB24, WR36.

thanks. that is helpful in this discussion.

 

[munga30]

1982 San Diego ChargersFouts 120Muncie 92Chandler 190Winslow 121TOTAL 523

 

[CalBear]

It's hard to compare, but I think the 1942 Green Bay Packers might win this one. Even if you readjust the baselines, Hutson's 1211 yards and 17 TDs is almost pure VBD, and Isbell threw for 2021 and 24 TDs when there were only three other QBs who threw for even 1000 yards. And that's in only 11 games.

 

[Tick]

How was Minnesota when Chamberlain had a good season at TE?

 

[dgreen]

1982 San Diego Chargers

Fouts 120

Muncie 92

Chandler 190

Winslow 121

TOTAL 523

Wow, that's going to be tough to beat.

 

[dgreen]

It's hard to compare, but I think the 1942 Green Bay Packers might win this one. Even if you readjust the baselines, Hutson's 1211 yards and 17 TDs is almost pure VBD, and Isbell threw for 2021 and 24 TDs when there were only three other QBs who threw for even 1000 yards. And that's in only 11 games.

Yeah, if we could calculate way back, we might find some pretty good combos. Unitas, Moore, Berry, and Mackey probably put together a good year or two.

 

[dgreen]

How was Minnesota when Chamberlain had a good season at TE?

Chamberlain's best year was a 9 and that was a year (2001) Culpepper split time due to injury and they had absolutely no running game.

 

[Doug Drinen]

QB12, TE12, RB24, WR36.

I actually use WR30 as sort of a compromise. In most years, there is probably little difference between WR30 and WR36, but just so you know...Here is an article that addresses a related (but not identical) question. It won't give you your answer, but it might be a good starting point.

 

[Spartans Rule]

1982 San Diego Chargers

Fouts    120

Muncie  92

Chandler  190

Winslow  121

TOTAL  523

Wow, that's going to be tough to beat.

I don't think it can be beat, but I'm not sure if it should even count. 1982 was the strike-shortened 9 game season and the VBD numbers on PFR appear to be prorated.

 

[noneother]

tooo lazy what about Barry Sanders, Scott Mitchel, herman moore... maye perriman over a TE...

 

[David Yudkin]

97 Broncos weren't bad . . .Elway 71David 162Smith 92Sharpe 67392

 

[Jimmy James]

84 Dolphins are an interesting caseMarino 201Nathan 6Clayton 147Johnson 0Total 354

 

[Jimmy James]

tooo lazy

what about Barry Sanders, Scott Mitchel, herman moore... maye perriman over a TE...

1995 looks to be the best year to use:Mitchell 133 (his only season of much value)

Sanders 122 (not his best)

Moore 133 (his only season over 100)

Hall 0

Total 388

 

[David Yudkin]

81 BoltsFouts 120Muncie 118Joiner 76Winslow 97411

 

[Sidewinder16]

'00 ColtsManning 121James 179Harrison 114Dilger 11425

 

[Sidewinder16]

'75 VikingsTarkenton 148Foreman 220Gilliam 58Voigt 4430

 

[Sidewinder16]

'75 BillsFerguson 98Simpson 281Chandler 44Seymour 0423

 

[Sidewinder16]

1982 San Diego Chargers

Fouts     120

Muncie   92

Chandler  190

Winslow   121

TOTAL  523

Wow, that's going to be tough to beat.

I don't think it can be beat, but I'm not sure if it should even count. 1982 was the strike-shortened 9 game season and the VBD numbers on PFR appear to be prorated.

Pretty sure the '82 Chargers are the winners, by far. The '82 VBD numbers are not prorated.

 

[Sidewinder16]

The '95 Cowboys may have the highest numbers with a zero from the QB.'95 CowboysAikman 0Smith 224Irvin 100Novacek 33357

 

[Spartans Rule]

1982 San Diego Chargers

Fouts     120

Muncie   92

Chandler  190

Winslow   121

TOTAL  523

Wow, that's going to be tough to beat.

I don't think it can be beat, but I'm not sure if it should even count. 1982 was the strike-shortened 9 game season and the VBD numbers on PFR appear to be prorated.

Pretty sure the '82 Chargers are the winners, by far. The '82 VBD numbers are not prorated.

If not, then how did Wes Chandler score 160 FP and have a VBD of 190?

 

[Big]

Muncie 92Chandler 190

Stupid Saints!!!!!

 

[Doug Drinen]

The 1982 VBDs are pre-prorated, as are the 1987 VBDs.sdg 1982 - Dan Fouts (120),Chuck Muncie (92),Wes Chandler (190),Kellen Winslow (121)sfo 1994 - Steve Young (179),Ricky Watters (98),Jerry Rice (141),Brent Jones (68)ind 2000 - Peyton Manning (106),Edgerrin James (179),Marvin Harrison (115),Ken Dilger (11)ram 1999 - Kurt Warner (153),Marshall Faulk (185),Isaac Bruce (72),Ernie Conwell (0)sfo 1998 - Steve Young (187),Garrison Hearst (137),Terrell Owens (82),Greg Clark (0)dal 1992 - Troy Aikman (59),Emmitt Smith (209),Michael Irvin (88),Jay Novacek (48)min 1975 - Fran Tarkenton (121),Chuck Foreman (220),John Gilliam (59),Stu Voigt (4)buf 1975 - Joe Ferguson (74),O.J. Simpson (282),Bob Chandler (45), Paul Seymour (0)sfo 1987 - Joe Montana (132),Roger Craig (51),Jerry Rice (216),John Frank (1)sdg 1981 - Dan Fouts (120),Chuck Muncie (118),Charlie Joiner (64),Kellen Winslow (97)sfo 1993 - Steve Young (136),Ricky Watters (82),Jerry Rice (147),Brent Jones (34)ind 1999 - Peyton Manning (84),Edgerrin James (186),Marvin Harrison (119),Marcus Pollard (2)det 1995 - Scott Mitchell (133),Barry Sanders (122),Herman Moore (133),Ron Hall (0)gnb 1995 - Brett Favre (161),Edgar Bennett (74),Robert Brooks (110),Mark Chmura (42)den 1997 - John Elway (71),Terrell Davis (162),Rod Smith (76),Shannon Sharpe (67)stl 1984 - Neil Lomax (135),Ottis Anderson (101),Roy Green (124),Doug Marsh (13)buf 1991 - Jim Kelly (117),Thurman Thomas (157),Andre Reed (81),Keith McKeller (17)sfo 1992 - Steve Young (136),Ricky Watters (98),Jerry Rice (99),Brent Jones (35)bal 1976 - Bert Jones (124),Lydell Mitchell (115),Roger Carr (118),Raymond Chester (11)ram 2001 - Kurt Warner (113),Marshall Faulk (206),Torry Holt (49),Ernie Conwell (1)kan 2003 - Trent Green (38),Priest Holmes (231),Eddie Kennison (12),Tony Gonzalez (87)min 2000 - Daunte Culpepper (153),Robert Smith (88),Randy Moss (124),Andrew Jordan (0)