Troy Smith (1 Viewer)

[Bojang0301]

So, is Boller done now for Baltimore? I see Troy Smith got on the field last night albeit against scrubs I'm guessing. Any chance he starts next week with the Ravens obviously looking ahead to next year?

 

[Colin Dowling]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I don't see why not. Boller has become the David Carr of the AFC, well maybe not that bad but he is terrible.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

 

[mad sweeney]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Which isn't bad for a Heisman winning QB. When you think of the QBs who never did anything in the league, being a career backup may not be such a bad thing.

 

[Colin Dowling]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Good point. I was getting distracted by his Heisman Trophy winning production over the 5 months prior to the Florida game. Thanks for reeling me back in.

 

[FavreCo]

Smith is nothing more than a backup.

 

[Family Matters]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Good point. I was getting distracted by his Heisman Trophy winning production over the 5 months prior to the Florida game. Thanks for reeling me back in.

I really do not know if he'll become a good NFL QB or not, but for anyone to judge him without giving him an opportunity to fail or succeed is simply not a fan of NFL players. Or maybe they're an OSU hater. Lord knows we've seen a few of them on this board. I do know that Trot has proven people wrong his entire life when it comes to playing football. He truely is ne of the good guys. I hope he gets an opportunity to prove people wrong again.

 

[Alluro]

If Peyton Manning was judged after his last college game vs Nebraska he would be projected as a career backup as well. Granted, i'm not saying smith is a stud, or even any good, but you can't dismiss the guy based on one college game.

 

[Bojang0301]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Good point. I was getting distracted by his Heisman Trophy winning production over the 5 months prior to the Florida game. Thanks for reeling me back in.

That's pretty funny, I think that might make my day. I watched Troy for most of the last two years, he really came around as a passer last year. We'll see if he can translate any of his game into the NFL but I hope he gets the start next week.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB.

UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

 

[osubg1]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

UF = nfl speed? Tebow will fail well before Troy

 

[Bojang0301]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

My bad, I forgot it takes one moron to watch one game and automatically be good at judging all players in said game.

 

[J R]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB.

Nice comeback line. Definitely what I thought when I read Colin's comeback. So, just so you get your share of backslaps.Colin, Troy Smith getting some playing time in the last few games sound reasonable, but seriously, competing for the starting gig next season? Based on the scouting reports I read last draft, I would think it's a bold prediction to say Smith ever competes for a starting gig, let alone next season. Smith didn't just drop because of the bowl game. He continued dropping all the way through the postseason assessments. What makes you think he could be a starter next season?

 

[Family Matters]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

I can remember screaming, play after play, "throw the damn ball!". He held it way too long that game. It was either poor play calling or poor decision making, or maybe a combination of both. It wasn't because the Florida defenders were getting to him faster than normal. OSU seemed like they were trying to throw long every play.

 

[Incogneto]

Did anyone here ever watch Troy Smith before that Natl Title game against Fla? Did anyone see the 2 Fiesta bowl wins he had? ...or the other 14 games he played in against Top-10 teams? the two against Texas (He did NOT start against Texas the year the longhorns won the Natl. Title...If he did start, they would have won. Damn Zwick!)

The guy was nothing short of composed! He was a great College QB, and there is only one thing that is stopping him from being a good QB: His size.

Just the $0.02 of a Buckeye fan!

 

[mad sweeney]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Good point. I was getting distracted by his Heisman Trophy winning production over the 5 months prior to the Florida game. Thanks for reeling me back in.

I really do not know if he'll become a good NFL QB or not, but for anyone to judge him without giving him an opportunity to fail or succeed is simply not a fan of NFL players. Or maybe they're an OSU hater. Lord knows we've seen a few of them on this board. I do know that Trot has proven people wrong his entire life when it comes to playing football. He truely is ne of the good guys. I hope he gets an opportunity to prove people wrong again.

Just go with the numbers. In the last 20 years 10 QBs have won. Not counting Leinart which is too soon to tell, there's Palmer then a loooooong drop to Ty Detmer and then nada. You could even go with the backups, there are 12 QB runner ups in the same time frame. Not counting Young for the same reason as Leinart, there is Manning and then a loooooong drop to Peete and then nada. That's 22 top 2 college players who were QBs. 2 are good, 2 are too new to tell, a few mixed nuts (Peete, Grossman, Detmer) and 18 busts. And quite frankly, the runner ups look better than the winners in the NFL. The chances that Troy Smith will do anything worthwhile in the league are very slim despite his college success.Edit to add, 20 years from Smith's award would put Testaverde in the mix, so add 1 to the successful side. But still exceptionally long odds.

 

[Das Boot]

The loss of Ohio State's best receiver (Ginn) on the opening play of the game, a Ginn TD incidentally, didn't help Troy look good in that game either.

Smith is a deliberate QB and makes good reads and accurate passes.

If he can speed that up to NFL standards, he'll have a shot at eventually starting.

 

[chris1969]

If you don't want him, please let the Brown's have him. We don't need another QB, but he has too much talent to dismiss after 1 College Football game. I actually hated it when the Ravens drafted him, because he was a steal where he was drafted and they are a division team.

 

[krameruf]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

UF = nfl speed? Tebow will fail well before Troy

Well Tebow will at least play vs top teams and players in college and not beat up on the crappy big 10 and get exposed by an SEC team.

 

[krameruf]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

I can remember screaming, play after play, "throw the damn ball!". He held it way too long that game. It was either poor play calling or poor decision making, or maybe a combination of both. It wasn't because the Florida defenders were getting to him faster than normal. OSU seemed like they were trying to throw long every play.

Oh they were getting their faster. He was used to the slow and fat big 10 players.

 

[daveR]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB.

Nice comeback line. Definitely what I thought when I read Colin's comeback. So, just so you get your share of backslaps.Colin, Troy Smith getting some playing time in the last few games sound reasonable, but seriously, competing for the starting gig next season? Based on the scouting reports I read last draft, I would think it's a bold prediction to say Smith ever competes for a starting gig, let alone next season. Smith didn't just drop because of the bowl game. He continued dropping all the way through the postseason assessments. What makes you think he could be a starter next season?

Maybe the fact that he has very little competition.

 

[beermutts52]

Boller is Billick's boy. Troy Smith will get no chance this year

 

[thewaterboys]

Billick has such a man-crush on Boller - he looks simply horrid at times. With their defense all they need is a simple drop back QB who doesn't turn the ball over 3-4 times per game (Volek comes to mind). Smith probably won't see much playing time while Billick is still there.

 

[chris1969]

Billick has such a man-crush on Boller - he looks simply horrid at times. With their defense all they need is a simple drop back QB who doesn't turn the ball over 3-4 times per game (Volek comes to mind). Smith probably won't see much playing time while Billick is still there.

That being said, does anybody else think that Smith is the best QB on their roster right now?

 

[J R]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB.

Nice comeback line. Definitely what I thought when I read Colin's comeback. So, just so you get your share of backslaps.Colin, Troy Smith getting some playing time in the last few games sound reasonable, but seriously, competing for the starting gig next season? Based on the scouting reports I read last draft, I would think it's a bold prediction to say Smith ever competes for a starting gig, let alone next season. Smith didn't just drop because of the bowl game. He continued dropping all the way through the postseason assessments. What makes you think he could be a starter next season?

Maybe the fact that he has very little competition.

That's assuming there is no offseason. I'm pretty sure they're having one this year.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

I can remember screaming, play after play, "throw the damn ball!". He held it way too long that game. It was either poor play calling or poor decision making, or maybe a combination of both. It wasn't because the Florida defenders were getting to him faster than normal. OSU seemed like they were trying to throw long every play.

Oh they were getting their faster. He was used to the slow and fat big 10 players.

Do yourself a favor, instead of looking foolish by spouting off absolutely false opinions, go do some research on the subject. Then maybe you can come sit at the big boy table and tell us how many slow, fat Big10 players are currently starting in the NFL.

 

[krameruf]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team. Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

OSU would have got blown out with Ginn, just by a little less than they did. There is good reason OSU is 0-9 vs SEC teams and Ted Ginn wasn't going to help in stopping that streak.

 

[krameruf]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

I can remember screaming, play after play, "throw the damn ball!". He held it way too long that game. It was either poor play calling or poor decision making, or maybe a combination of both. It wasn't because the Florida defenders were getting to him faster than normal. OSU seemed like they were trying to throw long every play.

Oh they were getting their faster. He was used to the slow and fat big 10 players.

Do yourself a favor, instead of looking foolish by spouting off absolutely false opinions, go do some research on the subject. Then maybe you can come sit at the big boy table and tell us how many slow, fat Big10 players are currently starting in the NFL.

Do yourself a favor and find out how many SEC players are playing D Line in the NFL and how many Big 10 players are from the last 10 years. When you get those results you'll look foolish.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

Did you happen to notice that the Fl defenders where in Troy's face before he could set up and do much of anything? Not too many QB's look good under diress. Fl's D-line totally dominated OSU's O-line. They seemed to live in the OSU backfield. Even the RB's were tackled in the backfield quite a bit. You did do a nice job of painting Smith with a broad brush however.

I can remember screaming, play after play, "throw the damn ball!". He held it way too long that game. It was either poor play calling or poor decision making, or maybe a combination of both. It wasn't because the Florida defenders were getting to him faster than normal. OSU seemed like they were trying to throw long every play.

Oh they were getting their faster. He was used to the slow and fat big 10 players.

Do yourself a favor, instead of looking foolish by spouting off absolutely false opinions, go do some research on the subject. Then maybe you can come sit at the big boy table and tell us how many slow, fat Big10 players are currently starting in the NFL.

Do yourself a favor and find out how many SEC players are playing D Line in the NFL and how many Big 10 players are from the last 10 years. When you get those results you'll look foolish.

I don't feel like doing ten years but right now there are 20 starters from the SEC and 18 from the Big 10. A pretty big discrepancy if you ask me.It could be possible that maybe, just maybe you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Family Matters]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team. Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

OSU would have got blown out with Ginn, just by a little less than they did. There is good reason OSU is 0-9 vs SEC teams and Ted Ginn wasn't going to help in stopping that streak.

Please explain how 0-9 has any real meaning today? Tress is 0-2 versus the SEC. The first year he came to OSU he lost to South Carolina with basically no QB and it came down to the end in a game that featured a trmendous comeback by OSU. His other game was against Fl last year. With OSU playing in their 3rd NC game since Tress arrived, and based on the fact that OSU has placed as many or more players in the NFL as any team out there and add to that the fact that the Big Ten beat the SEC 2 games to 1 last year in bowls, I think your comment doesn't hold much water. But feel free to bash. Meanwhile, we Buckeye fans will enjoy our 3rd NC game in 6 years. In spite of last year's loss, it's been a great ride since Tress arrived. And I would say outside of USC, LSU, and Oklahoma, no program has enjoyed more success since 2000.

 

[Jedeye]

Billick has such a man-crush on Boller - he looks simply horrid at times. With their defense all they need is a simple drop back QB who doesn't turn the ball over 3-4 times per game (Volek comes to mind). Smith probably won't see much playing time while Billick is still there.

I don't want to change the direction of this thread, but I'm starting to think that Billick won't be with the Ravens next year, thus opening the door somewhat for Smith to compete. I think Billick has lost the team as evidenced by their performance on Sunday night against the Colts. My feeling is that Ray Ray will privately (or maybe not so privately) lobby for a new coach in the offseason.

 

[az_prof]

Clearly Smith has an opening due to the dearth of QB talent on the team. The argument that not many Heismann QBs have gone on to have great careers and so Smith is likely to fail is a red herring. How many QBs period have gone on to have great careers? The odds are long no matter what. Having won the Heismann is not proof that Smith will be a great QB, but it certainly is NOT proof that he won't.

I saw Smith play quite a bit and I think he has a chance--his size is what has held him up and I don't believe size is as important as NFl scouts seem to think. There are a number of very good NFl QBs who are not big.

 

[TwinTurbo]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team. Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

I had a lot of respect for Troy Smith and this is coming from a Michigan fan. He's a clutch player and it would be unfair to pass judgement on him based soley on the Florida NC game. But that said, Troy lacks the necessary accuracy for the NFL game. And I don't think he has all the necessary skills to be a successful NFL starter.

 

[Assani Fisher]

i THINK he'll play more as the season goes on, and will compete for the gig next season.

Really? Did you see the National Championship game last year?Troy Smith is destined to be a longtime backup.

Good point. I was getting distracted by his Heisman Trophy winning production over the 5 months prior to the Florida game. Thanks for reeling me back in.

I really do not know if he'll become a good NFL QB or not, but for anyone to judge him without giving him an opportunity to fail or succeed is simply not a fan of NFL players. Or maybe they're an OSU hater. Lord knows we've seen a few of them on this board. I do know that Trot has proven people wrong his entire life when it comes to playing football. He truely is ne of the good guys. I hope he gets an opportunity to prove people wrong again.

Just go with the numbers. In the last 20 years 10 QBs have won. Not counting Leinart which is too soon to tell, there's Palmer then a loooooong drop to Ty Detmer and then nada. You could even go with the backups, there are 12 QB runner ups in the same time frame. Not counting Young for the same reason as Leinart, there is Manning and then a loooooong drop to Peete and then nada. That's 22 top 2 college players who were QBs. 2 are good, 2 are too new to tell, a few mixed nuts (Peete, Grossman, Detmer) and 18 busts. And quite frankly, the runner ups look better than the winners in the NFL. The chances that Troy Smith will do anything worthwhile in the league are very slim despite his college success.Edit to add, 20 years from Smith's award would put Testaverde in the mix, so add 1 to the successful side. But still exceptionally long odds.

This is really really bad logic. You can't penalize a guy for doing something good just because others who did similar good didn't go on to have future success. It would be like if the #2 overall pick outperformed the #1 overall pick for many years in a row....that wouldn't mean that the next year the #2 was more likely to be better.

 

[krameruf]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team. Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

OSU would have got blown out with Ginn, just by a little less than they did. There is good reason OSU is 0-9 vs SEC teams and Ted Ginn wasn't going to help in stopping that streak.

Please explain how 0-9 has any real meaning today? Tress is 0-2 versus the SEC. The first year he came to OSU he lost to South Carolina with basically no QB and it came down to the end in a game that featured a trmendous comeback by OSU. His other game was against Fl last year. With OSU playing in their 3rd NC game since Tress arrived, and based on the fact that OSU has placed as many or more players in the NFL as any team out there and add to that the fact that the Big Ten beat the SEC 2 games to 1 last year in bowls, I think your comment doesn't hold much water. But feel free to bash. Meanwhile, we Buckeye fans will enjoy our 3rd NC game in 6 years. In spite of last year's loss, it's been a great ride since Tress arrived. And I would say outside of USC, LSU, and Oklahoma, no program has enjoyed more success since 2000.

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.At least OSU plays somewhat of a decent schedule next year. Your are in the title game due to the joke of a schedule it was this year.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

 

[Godfather of Soul]

My bad, I had forgotten how accurate an indicator of NFL potential the Heisman Trophy is for a QB. UF was the closest thing to NFL speed Troy Smith had seen and he held the ball forever play after play.

UF = nfl speed? Tebow will fail well before Troy

Nice analogy with tebow. You = Descartes.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

Quality ownage going on in here.

 

[Interseptopus]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

No, I think they just walk around campus doing that stupid gator chomp that envies collar popping and pink polos in douchebagnessFlorida sucks. It produces nothing but Douchebags, Tebow (and kramefuf) is a classic example of that.Now for the question at hand,He won't compete next year for a starting job... he'll be backup #3 at best. I see them taking a QB on the first day and hoping Boller isn't too bad to be a starter for a few games before they throw in the young rookie

 

[Family Matters]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team. Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

OSU would have got blown out with Ginn, just by a little less than they did. There is good reason OSU is 0-9 vs SEC teams and Ted Ginn wasn't going to help in stopping that streak.

Please explain how 0-9 has any real meaning today? Tress is 0-2 versus the SEC. The first year he came to OSU he lost to South Carolina with basically no QB and it came down to the end in a game that featured a trmendous comeback by OSU. His other game was against Fl last year. With OSU playing in their 3rd NC game since Tress arrived, and based on the fact that OSU has placed as many or more players in the NFL as any team out there and add to that the fact that the Big Ten beat the SEC 2 games to 1 last year in bowls, I think your comment doesn't hold much water. But feel free to bash. Meanwhile, we Buckeye fans will enjoy our 3rd NC game in 6 years. In spite of last year's loss, it's been a great ride since Tress arrived. And I would say outside of USC, LSU, and Oklahoma, no program has enjoyed more success since 2000.

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.At least OSU plays somewhat of a decent schedule next year. Your are in the title game due to the joke of a schedule it was this year.

You do realize that outside of YSU, most of those out of conference games were scheduled long ago, don't you? You don't know how well teams are going to be. You do realize that playing your conference is out of your control, don't you? You have to play the teams that are there. BTW-who is Mid Tenn St, Tulane & La Tech? Not exactly power house teams and yet LSU plays them. Go figure. LSU scheduled some cupcakes of their own. Last year UL-Layfayette & Tulane. Next year, North Texas, Troy and some yet to be named cupcake. Fl played Trot, W. Ky and Fl Atlantic. So get over it already.Let's also point out that OSU has played some difficult out of conference games in the past. Texas 2 years in a row for example. USC the next 2 years. Who has LSU or Fl played out of conference that makes us think they are so great? Va Tech was a good team to schedule so hats off for that but who else have they played?Did I mention that the Big Ten went 2-1 against SEC teams last year in bowl games?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

UF plays FSU every single year. Not as impressive as it was 5 years ago, but still a major non-conference opponent.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

The loss of Ginn was huge for the Bucks in the National championship last season and anyone that says Ginn would have made no difference, is well a SEC fan I suppose.

When Ginn went out that allowed Florida to not have to cover 1 whole side of the field and Florida did not have to worry about getting beat deep. Gonzo was a slot guy and not a player that had to be respected deep so much.

Robo and Hartline were not quite ready for that role and so Florida could cover Gonzo and with no deep threat Florida could throw the kitchen sink at Troy. I was suprised OSU gave up so fast on the running game, but give Florida credit Meyer prepared well and had his team ready. Florida's defense was impressive and I worried a lot last season about Florida's spread offense and Leak really was not getting any respect and you know what it seems almost like he never went to Florida. I like Leak and he's so already forgotten it's weird. Florida won the game and by a huge margin. so to say Ginn would have lead OSU to victory is also not quite realistic, but for this argument which seems focused on 1 game I feel it holds some water. Troy was a steal and sitting back and watching him be groomed makes me hate the time he rolls into Paul Brown and destroy my team.

Troy's size is not as much a issue for me, because OSU has a pretty tall line and I have seen Troy play. I'm confident he will get his shot.

Troy is smart and poised and carries himself well on the field. Troy does not lack confidence and I feel he landed in the best place he could have. Ravens need a real #1 receiver more than any thing else.

OSU would have got blown out with Ginn, just by a little less than they did. There is good reason OSU is 0-9 vs SEC teams and Ted Ginn wasn't going to help in stopping that streak.

Please explain how 0-9 has any real meaning today? Tress is 0-2 versus the SEC. The first year he came to OSU he lost to South Carolina with basically no QB and it came down to the end in a game that featured a trmendous comeback by OSU. His other game was against Fl last year. With OSU playing in their 3rd NC game since Tress arrived, and based on the fact that OSU has placed as many or more players in the NFL as any team out there and add to that the fact that the Big Ten beat the SEC 2 games to 1 last year in bowls, I think your comment doesn't hold much water. But feel free to bash. Meanwhile, we Buckeye fans will enjoy our 3rd NC game in 6 years. In spite of last year's loss, it's been a great ride since Tress arrived. And I would say outside of USC, LSU, and Oklahoma, no program has enjoyed more success since 2000.

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.At least OSU plays somewhat of a decent schedule next year. Your are in the title game due to the joke of a schedule it was this year.

You do realize that outside of YSU, most of those out of conference games were scheduled long ago, don't you? You don't know how well teams are going to be. You do realize that playing your conference is out of your control, don't you? You have to play the teams that are there. BTW-who is Mid Tenn St, Tulane & La Tech? Not exactly power house teams and yet LSU plays them. Go figure. LSU scheduled some cupcakes of their own. Last year UL-Layfayette & Tulane. Next year, North Texas, Troy and some yet to be named cupcake. Fl played Trot, W. Ky and Fl Atlantic. So get over it already.Let's also point out that OSU has played some difficult out of conference games in the past. Texas 2 years in a row for example. USC the next 2 years. Who has LSU or Fl played out of conference that makes us think they are so great? Va Tech was a good team to schedule so hats off for that but who else have they played?

Did I mention that the Big Ten went 2-1 against SEC teams last year in bowl games?

I'll add a little to that. Here are the out of conference (BCS) games scheduled for the next 8 years for OSUUSC, USC, Miami, @Miami, Cal, @Cal,Va Tech, @Va Tech - As you can see, that's 1 major game per year and all of the teams were at the top of their conferences when the games were scheduled.

Here are the out of conference (BCS) games scheduled for LSU for the next 9 years:

Colorado, @Colorado, Arizona St, @Arizona St. - 4 major games in 9 years.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_schedules/

 

[Family Matters]

UF plays FSU every single year. Not as impressive as it was 5 years ago, but still a major non-conference opponent.

Nad I hope they keep playing because that's been such a great college game to watch as a fan. Hopefully, FSU will regain some their past glory and make this a game going forward. Right now, Fl is heads and shoulders above them. Of course it wasn't that long ago it was the other way around.

 

[krameruf]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

We go to class considering UF is a better academic school.This whole thread I've been very over the top. I've been giving you OSU fans a little sample of what I had to hear at the national championship wih all the obnoxious OSU fans before the beat down. Kind of annoying huh???? It's funny that in Atlanta OSU fans were very very quiet. It's almost as if they knew they'd get owned again by UF.

 

[krameruf]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

No, I think they just walk around campus doing that stupid gator chomp that envies collar popping and pink polos in douchebagnessFlorida sucks. It produces nothing but Douchebags, Tebow (and kramefuf) is a classic example of that.Now for the question at hand,He won't compete next year for a starting job... he'll be backup #3 at best. I see them taking a QB on the first day and hoping Boller isn't too bad to be a starter for a few games before they throw in the young rookie

I guess I'd hate OSU if they owned UF.

 

[Interseptopus]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

No, I think they just walk around campus doing that stupid gator chomp that envies collar popping and pink polos in douchebagnessFlorida sucks. It produces nothing but Douchebags, Tebow (and kramefuf) is a classic example of that.Now for the question at hand,He won't compete next year for a starting job... he'll be backup #3 at best. I see them taking a QB on the first day and hoping Boller isn't too bad to be a starter for a few games before they throw in the young rookie

I guess I'd hate OSU if they owned UF.

Not an OSU fan either, I just dislike Florida more...Go pop your collar and run around campus doing the stupid chomp... I think your "friends" miss you for you nightly/daily/hourly chomping...

 

[BuckeyeArt]

It has plenty of meaning when you combine it with how the Big 10 has been exposed in the last five years. LSU/UF/USC are going to further show how bad he Big 10 really is very soon.

Let's see . . . The Big Ten was 8-5 against the SEC over the last 5 years in Bowl games. Do you guys ever go to class?

We go to class considering UF is a better academic school.

Well, I did find this. Apparently, you do rank higher than OSU students on this list (I think the school at the top pretty well defines the list). From The Princeton Review: Academics Their Students (Almost) Never Study

How many out-of-class hours do you spend studying each day?

School Name

1 West Virginia University

2 University of Maryland-College Park

3 University of Georgia

4 University of Mississippi

5 University of Massachusetts--Amherst

6 Flagler College

7 Arizona State University at the Tempe Campus

8 George Mason University

9 University of North Dakota

10 University of Rhode Island

11 Florida State University

12 University of Florida

13 University of Central Florida

14 University of Alabama--Tuscaloosa

15 The University of Texas at Austin

16 University of Tennessee--Knoxville

17 Ohio University-Athens

18 Indiana University at Bloomington

19 University of New Hampshire

20 Florida Southern College

 

[phthalatemagic]

So I just wanted to read about Troy Smith and ended up seeing a tard slapfest. You guys make sure you wear your helments when you go outside.

I thought Troy Smith looked great for the time he was in the game. I didn't think he had the arm that he apparently does - but that first strike to the endzone he had - WOW! I still think if the WR would have laid out on that he could have gotten his hands on it. I guess the Ravens aren't known for having good WRs though. He's a smart and athletic guy that doesn't depend on his running, but if he needs it it's there for him. I like that and I hope to see him starting the next few games.