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I used 65% because I was referring to team carries. If it were only running back carries, 75% would probably have the same effect.
Only 5 guys in the league had over 75% of the RB carries last year. If you're saying that 75% of RB carries is basically the same as 65% of team carries, then you really think that the number of RBs to get that percentage will more than double from last year? I don't think so.And I'd take Best off the list and add Forte and Grant. That would be the list of guys I think would have a shot at having those numbers anyway.
There obviously can't be a 1:1 for percentages but I was just saying for the people that were using 65% for running back carries that the number should be higher like 75%. This is barring injury, obviously there are people on the list that will get injured and will miss games so comparing the number of running backs that did it last year to the amount on the list doesn't make sense. How many players would have done it last year if nobody got injured?
 
I used 65% because I was referring to team carries. If it were only running back carries, 75% would probably have the same effect.
Only 5 guys in the league had over 75% of the RB carries last year. If you're saying that 75% of RB carries is basically the same as 65% of team carries, then you really think that the number of RBs to get that percentage will more than double from last year? I don't think so.And I'd take Best off the list and add Forte and Grant. That would be the list of guys I think would have a shot at having those numbers anyway.
There obviously can't be a 1:1 for percentages but I was just saying for the people that were using 65% for running back carries that the number should be higher like 75%. This is barring injury, obviously there are people on the list that will get injured and will miss games so comparing the number of running backs that did it last year to the amount on the list doesn't make sense. How many players would have done it last year if nobody got injured?
Who got injured and missed enough time to cost them those percentages last year? Gore and Fred Jackson I think would have been the only guys to make that percentage last year that didn't due to injury. And Jackson was helped by the Lynch suspension.65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high bar to set. The only guys that are going to do it are guys that:1) Have no other real talent at the position on the roster2) Are MUCH more talented than the guys behind them on the roster3) Are 3 down backs4) Are fairly young and can take the grind of a full season5) Have no durability questions surrounding them that would make a coach use them a bit lessHonestly, I think the list probably looks more like this:Michael TurnerSteven Jackson (and only because he plays through injury and there is NOBODY else on that roster to take carries)Rashard MendenhallRyan GrantChris JohnsonMatt ForteI'm even a bit iffy on Turner and CJ. I think it's a coin flip on whether Fisher will use CJ as much this year or if he'll try not to kill him. And I think there's decent enough talent behind Turner that he could see less touches.I think all the other RBs on your list either have enough talent behind them for teams to not risk overworking their bell cow, or have enough durability concerns for teams to give carries to other players anyway.
 
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.

 
What about Harrison in Cleveland now that Hardesty is injured?
Bingo, Hillis and Davis will get far fewer carries than most people think. Barring injury Harrison will get a TON of carries.Now, I don't think his YPC will be very high this year, but that's a different story :goodposting:
 
in Best's defense, I remember people saying that Portis couldn't handle a full workload back when he was a rookie, and there were plenty of comments about his size ( or lack thereof)...

he proceeded to pound out a 1500 yard, 15 td rookie season, and many good seasons thereafter..

just a hunch here, Best is probably going to be Portis v2.0

he's a lock to get more than 65% of the Lions carries this season..

 
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My guess is, barring injury:Adrian PetersonRay RiceChris JohnsonMJDFrank GoreCedric BensonRashard MendenhallJahvid BestMichael TurnerSteven JacksonRyan MathewsWho do you add or remove from that list?
I'd remove Rice - didn't do last year. Benson - lot of carries so he still gets 300. Plenty carries left for B. ScottBest - it will be a more of a rbbc than people realize IMOI'd addGrant - did last year, no reason to think he won't do it againForte - even though he was horrible, he did it last year and I'd don't think Chester will be able to make any difference.Portis - because LJ is done.Spiller - because he will be Buffalo's offense.
Best off, Spiller on? I like all of your suggestions but that one..Spiller currently contends with Fred Jackson and Lynch, 2 very capable backs.. Best's competition shredded his knee less than a year ago.. RB's typically have a hard time coming back immediately from those type of injuries.
 
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.
Well, your guess is wrong. I ran the numbers, and anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but these are the only guys to have over 65% of their team's rushing carries last year:Steven Jackson 78.8%Chris Johnson 71.7%MJD 69.8%Matt Forte 69%Adrian Peterson 67%The only other guys even close were:Ryan Grant 64.3%Frank Gore 61.7%Joseph Addai 59.8%Cedric Benson 59.6%65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high number and only a very few guys in specific situations that manage to stay healthy are going to reach a number like that. With the exception of S-Jax, all of those guys stayed healthy. They all were clearly their team's best option without much of anything behind them on the depth chart. And they almost all are 3 down backs.
 
GroveDiesel said:
shnikies said:
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.
Well, your guess is wrong. I ran the numbers, and anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but these are the only guys to have over 65% of their team's rushing carries last year:Steven Jackson 78.8%

Chris Johnson 71.7%

MJD 69.8%

Matt Forte 69%

Adrian Peterson 67%

The only other guys even close were:

Ryan Grant 64.3%

Frank Gore 61.7%

Joseph Addai 59.8%

Cedric Benson 59.6%

65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high number and only a very few guys in specific situations that manage to stay healthy are going to reach a number like that. With the exception of S-Jax, all of those guys stayed healthy. They all were clearly their team's best option without much of anything behind them on the depth chart. And they almost all are 3 down backs.
So, if you included Grant at 64.3% because I want to roundup and added Benson, Jackson, and Gore you'd get 9. I don't see how 11 is so far fetched barring injury.
 
Who really cares what percentage a guy gets of his team's carries? Shonn Greene might not get 65% but he could still get 325 carries. DeAngelo Williams might be closer to 55% but could easily be a Top 5-10 RB. Forte could get 65% in CHI and not even rank in the Top 25 fantasy RBs. And why are receptions not included?

I think a better question would be which RBs are going to get 300 touches (rushes and receptions), no matter what percentage of the team's carries he gets.

Last year, there were 9:

Chris Johnson rb 408

Steven Jackson 375

Maurice Jones-Drew 365

Adrian Peterson 358

Thomas Jones 342

Ray Rice 332

Cedric Benson 318

Matt Forte 315

Ryan Grant 307

 
Who really cares what percentage a guy gets of his team's carries? Shonn Greene might not get 65% but he could still get 325 carries. DeAngelo Williams might be closer to 55% but could easily be a Top 5-10 RB. Forte could get 65% in CHI and not even rank in the Top 25 fantasy RBs. And why are receptions not included?I think a better question would be which RBs are going to get 300 touches (rushes and receptions), no matter what percentage of the team's carries he gets.Last year, there were 9:Chris Johnson rb 408 Steven Jackson 375 Maurice Jones-Drew 365 Adrian Peterson 358 Thomas Jones 342 Ray Rice 332 Cedric Benson 318 Matt Forte 315Ryan Grant 307
This was really meant to hold projected team carries as a constant. Offensive philosophies can change. I understand 65% of X could be less than 55% of Y. For this topic I wanted to just project which running backs will have the most carries relative to their own teams. I could see why people wouldn't care to know but I was just starting a harmless topic that people don't have to participate in if they think it has no #####. ##### = value, which is a dirty word
 
GroveDiesel said:
shnikies said:
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.
Well, your guess is wrong. I ran the numbers, and anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but these are the only guys to have over 65% of their team's rushing carries last year:Steven Jackson 78.8%

Chris Johnson 71.7%

MJD 69.8%

Matt Forte 69%

Adrian Peterson 67%

The only other guys even close were:

Ryan Grant 64.3%

Frank Gore 61.7%

Joseph Addai 59.8%

Cedric Benson 59.6%

65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high number and only a very few guys in specific situations that manage to stay healthy are going to reach a number like that. With the exception of S-Jax, all of those guys stayed healthy. They all were clearly their team's best option without much of anything behind them on the depth chart. And they almost all are 3 down backs.
So, if you included Grant at 64.3% because I want to roundup and added Benson, Jackson, and Gore you'd get 9. I don't see how 11 is so far fetched barring injury.
This made me laugh, thanks.
 
GroveDiesel said:
shnikies said:
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.
Well, your guess is wrong. I ran the numbers, and anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but these are the only guys to have over 65% of their team's rushing carries last year:Steven Jackson 78.8%

Chris Johnson 71.7%

MJD 69.8%

Matt Forte 69%

Adrian Peterson 67%

The only other guys even close were:

Ryan Grant 64.3%

Frank Gore 61.7%

Joseph Addai 59.8%

Cedric Benson 59.6%

65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high number and only a very few guys in specific situations that manage to stay healthy are going to reach a number like that. With the exception of S-Jax, all of those guys stayed healthy. They all were clearly their team's best option without much of anything behind them on the depth chart. And they almost all are 3 down backs.
So, if you included Grant at 64.3% because I want to roundup and added Benson, Jackson, and Gore you'd get 9. I don't see how 11 is so far fetched barring injury.
Which Jackson are you adding into the 6 since Steven was already included in the first 5?
 
GroveDiesel said:
shnikies said:
I'm guessing there more than 5 that got 65% of team's carries plus Gore, Jackson and Benson and you're probably around 11, the number I listed.
Well, your guess is wrong. I ran the numbers, and anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but these are the only guys to have over 65% of their team's rushing carries last year:Steven Jackson 78.8%

Chris Johnson 71.7%

MJD 69.8%

Matt Forte 69%

Adrian Peterson 67%

The only other guys even close were:

Ryan Grant 64.3%

Frank Gore 61.7%

Joseph Addai 59.8%

Cedric Benson 59.6%

65% of a team's carries is a REALLY high number and only a very few guys in specific situations that manage to stay healthy are going to reach a number like that. With the exception of S-Jax, all of those guys stayed healthy. They all were clearly their team's best option without much of anything behind them on the depth chart. And they almost all are 3 down backs.
So, if you included Grant at 64.3% because I want to roundup and added Benson, Jackson, and Gore you'd get 9. I don't see how 11 is so far fetched barring injury.
Which Jackson are you adding into the 6 since Steven was already included in the first 5?
I included Fred Jackson because I thought he was limited in the middle of the season due to an injury but I was mistaken.
 
Outside of the completely obvious, I think Mendenhall has the biggest chance to produce the most amount of touches. He is going to get 300 touches just running the ball. Throw in another 25-40 for receptions.

 
65% is a very high bar.

I also think Caddy has a shot to really be "the man" in Tampa this year. Whether he gets to 65% is a very different question.

Someone I haven't seen mentioned is LeSean McCoy. He may be closer to 65% than a lot of the guys on the list so far.

 

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