Turner injury (1 Viewer)

[heidbrink]

I didn't see a thread on this and I didn't get to watch the game so any insight would be great.

I saw on the FBG news blogger that the injury was a groin injury and he should be ok. The Falcons staff decided apparently not to put him in the game due to it being a blowout. Snelling had a fine day in his relief, looking at the box score. He went for a whopping 24/128/2 rushing and 5/57/1 receiving.

Should Turner owners out there (and anybody else too I suppose) make snelling a waiver priority "just in case"?

Is Snelling for real or was the defense just that bad or a bit of both?

Does this signal more of a RBBC from here on out in Atlanta?

Turner was known as one of the few "bell cows" out there. Perhaps Snelling's performance could push the team to give him more touches. Especially considering the team trying to nurse Turner along a bit.

 

[basher]

NBC was saying it was minor and precautionary because they were already up.

With that being said Snelling is probably not a bad add given the fact that Turner is showing the signs over the past two years of not staying healthy.

 

[shader]

Snelling is a must-add in any league. He had a huge day. He is the primary backup and was getting a few carries even when Turner was playing.

 

[Nate]

Snelling is a must-add in any league. He had a huge day. He is the primary backup and was getting a few carries even when Turner was playing.

Or not.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...njury-is-minor/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ike-smith-says/

ETA: He's worth stashing as a just-in-case if you've got deep rosters.

 

[Sabertooth]

I didn't see a thread on this and I didn't get to watch the game so any insight would be great.I saw on the FBG news blogger that the injury was a groin injury and he should be ok. The Falcons staff decided apparently not to put him in the game due to it being a blowout. Snelling had a fine day in his relief, looking at the box score. He went for a whopping 24/128/2 rushing and 5/57/1 receiving.Should Turner owners out there (and anybody else too I suppose) make snelling a waiver priority "just in case"?Is Snelling for real or was the defense just that bad or a bit of both?Does this signal more of a RBBC from here on out in Atlanta? Turner was known as one of the few "bell cows" out there. Perhaps Snelling's performance could push the team to give him more touches. Especially considering the team trying to nurse Turner along a bit.

Turner owners should have Snelling as a handcuff. He and Javon Ringer are probably the two best handcuffs in the league right now due to the fact that they will be "the guy" if the starter is hurt. So yes on that.Snelling is for real in the sense that he is a decent player who will get you fantasy points in the event of a Turner injury. He has some upside as well because he's a better pass catcher than Turner. He's not the rusher Turner is though. I'd say he'll do about 80% of what Turner would in a starters role.I don't think Mike Smith is fond of RBBC. Maybe some breathers and third down work, but if Turner is healthy, he really makes that offense tick. I still think Turner is the bellcow for the reason stated above.

 

[heidbrink]

Thanks for the input so far. I'm kinda surprised there isn't more buzz about this situation. Both from the perspective that Turner is likely people's RB1 and that Snelling might represent a nice waiver grab.

 

[munygon2]

I have Turner so I quickly added Snelling yesterday in case something more develops, especially since Turner was injured last year and out for a couple of games.

 

[basher]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...njury-is-minor/

With Falcons fans and fantasy owners holding their breath after running back Michael Turner left today's win over the Cardinals and didn't return, they can now exhale.

The injury is minor.

Coach Mike Smith suggested that this was the case after the game. "I don't think it was significant," Smith said, per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "He was talking about going back in to the ball game. He was cleared to go back in. I don't think it's going to be anything significant. But I have yet to talk to the trainers. I have not had my post-game meeting with the trainers."

We're told that, indeed, it's not a serious injury. The Falcons didn't use him because the game was in control.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I added Snelling last year when Turner went down and he was money for about 2-3 games. Turner is a quick healer though and could be back starting against the Saints next Sunday.

 

[heidbrink]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...njury-is-minor/

With Falcons fans and fantasy owners holding their breath after running back Michael Turner left today's win over the Cardinals and didn't return, they can now exhale.

The injury is minor.

Coach Mike Smith suggested that this was the case after the game. "I don't think it was significant," Smith said, per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "He was talking about going back in to the ball game. He was cleared to go back in. I don't think it's going to be anything significant. But I have yet to talk to the trainers. I have not had my post-game meeting with the trainers."

We're told that, indeed, it's not a serious injury. The Falcons didn't use him because the game was in control.

"think" being the operative term. I have a hard time putting the words "minor" and "groin injury" together. Hopefully Turner isn't hampered in any way going forward.

The SP doesn't think that Snelling's performance will in any way go towards earning more snaps regardless of Turner's health? Gotta say, I'm a bit nervous.

 

[dagwood]

If you own Turner then Snelling is a must add.

If you don't own Turner and can get Snelling on the cheap and have room to stash him, go for it.

 

[Koya]

At this point, Snelling is a key handcuff, but this early in the season I wouldnt waste a waiver wire pick on him. If you use dollar systems, he might be worth a few bucks if you have the room, but you could find a better option on the wire if possible.

 

[NoCheese]

Worst case here is that Turner reinjures the groin often after just a few carries and Snelling gets the majority of the carries. You couldn't start Snelling unless Turner is out, though, so that would be a nightmare.

 

[menobrown]

When Norwood is hurt, like he usually is, Snelling with Turner being hurt is a better fantasy option than a healthy Turner despite the fact Turner is a much more explosive player. Snelling is a much better than Turner in all phases of the passing game and offers 3 down back ability while Turner is confined to non passing downs.

Personally I just hope to avoid a repeat of last season when Turner played several games while gimpy. In the league that matters most to me I roster them both and just hope it's not like last year when a gimpy Turner continued to play.

Going forward even with a healthy Turner I'd expect Snelling to get a little more work but not to the point Turner is not going to continue to be a workhorse. Unless Snelling starts stealing goal line carries I'm not worried about him.

 

[zamboni]

Worst case here is that Turner reinjures the groin often after just a few carries and Snelling gets the majority of the carries.

That's my biggest concern as a Turner owner - we saw this happen at least once last season when he tried to come back.One thing that was sort of mentioned right before is Norwood. He was carted off, which is never a good sign. If he's hurt long-term, Snelling would probably take over 3rd down duties, so his workload will likely go up anyway.

 

[Shutout]

Snelling has produced when needed and really has always been the better backup to Turner than Norwood (his game is closer to Turner than Norwood trying to be the guy).

Its really just a matter if you can get him and have room. He's clearly the answer when Turner isn't on the field but the falcons clearly want Turner to be a bell cow when he can be.

I own Turner in one league and am quickly getting a bad taste in my mouth over it. Yes, I reaped the benefits in 2008. yes, I won some big games last year with him. But I also don't like the frustration of Turner trying to come back, gets re0injured again and Snelling be good enough to go with. that's basically the issue here: Snelling IS GOOD ENOUGH to where the Falcons feel ok with sitting Turner after he gets banged up. Its like they keep holding Turner back because they anticipate needing a heavy load from him during the year but them you look back and see that he wasn't used enough.

I probably won't trade Turner because the return won't be there right now but if I have other options, I might just go with them until this clears up.

 

[Resident A]

As a Turner owner, I'd love to have Snelling as a just-in-case option. He was drafted in my league 1 pick before I would've taken him. Snelling probably won't be a FF factor unless there's more to the injury, but he's a definite add for any Turner owner.

Sure would've been nice if Turner had gotten Snelling's #s...

 

[Captain Hook]

Thanks for the input so far. I'm kinda surprised there isn't more buzz about this situation. Both from the perspective that Turner is likely people's RB1 and that Snelling might represent a nice waiver grab.

Likely part of that is because Snelling is already owned in most leagues (I think I only found one league I am in where he was not drafted) and because yesterday during the game that they thought it was a minor groin injury

 

[heidbrink]

Worst case here is that Turner reinjures the groin often after just a few carries and Snelling gets the majority of the carries.

That's my biggest concern as a Turner owner - we saw this happen at least once last season when he tried to come back.One thing that was sort of mentioned right before is Norwood. He was carted off, which is never a good sign. If he's hurt long-term, Snelling would probably take over 3rd down duties, so his workload will likely go up anyway.

Thanks! Very interesting! Not to wish ill on Turner here but it seems that it could quite possibly shape up that Snelling in fact becomes the "every down" back there this year by attrition.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

 

[heidbrink]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

 

[Koya]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

If you are in a shallow league with limited bench spaces, its laughable that someone would be laughing. B. Scott is just as worth an add - does that mean its laughable not to add him? Now, if Turner is out for a significant period of time, no question - otherwise Snelling is in there with some of the top backups that will see carries each week, but are only of value if the starter goes down (or somehow they take over the gig).i.e. - In the league where I have Turner, I'd pick up Snelling. In my other ones, the league with a smaller bench I can't drop anyone of less value than him, and in my other with a larger league its worth trying through the bidding process, but Im not breaking the bank.

 

[Koya]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

It's actually counterproductive. There are viable reasons to pick him up, viable reasons why doing so may not be wise - it depends on your teams situation and your league, especially the depth of the league.I mean, if Matthews ends up out for a couple weeks, I'd much rather have Tolbert. All things being equal, B. Scott and Snelling are similar - the question is whether Turner gets to start next week giving snelling 6-8 touches again, rendering him not worth much unless you either have Turner or have roster space to burn on a hope and see (though a legit hope and see player, with upside if he gets the gig for a while).

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

I'm in a league with small rosters. I own Turner. The worst player I can drop is Louis Murphy. But he's a part of my wrbc for the #5 role on my team and wr's can have awfully high value.Should I drop him even if Turner is back and healthy?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

Yes. in making fun of your initial question I was hoping to drive people to a more productive thread. Snelling was an obvious handcuff for Turner owners and even nonowners stashing a lottery ticket. Had you asked this question BEFORE sundays game I'd cut you some slack, but to ask this question after the answer has been clearly given is pretty pointless, as the answer is pretty obvious.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

I'm in a league with small rosters. I own Turner. The worst player I can drop is Louis Murphy. But he's a part of my wrbc for the #5 role on my team and wr's can have awfully high value.Should I drop him even if Turner is back and healthy?

A much more interesting scenario. I'd keep snelling as he's shown he can handle (and will be given) the starting gig if Turner is down/out and becomes an Inst-RB1-type when turner is out. Protecting the RB1 position on your team is more valuable that fishing for WR5's (on the raiders no less) who you likely will never start anyway.

 

[heidbrink]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

Yes. in making fun of your initial question I was hoping to drive people to a more productive thread. Snelling was an obvious handcuff for Turner owners and even nonowners stashing a lottery ticket. Had you asked this question BEFORE sundays game I'd cut you some slack, but to ask this question after the answer has been clearly given is pretty pointless, as the answer is pretty obvious.

What more productive thread? Whether orton outscores schaub? You sir, are simply being a jerk. Move along if you think our discussion is beneath your obvious extreme high intellect.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

Yes. in making fun of your initial question I was hoping to drive people to a more productive thread. Snelling was an obvious handcuff for Turner owners and even nonowners stashing a lottery ticket. Had you asked this question BEFORE sundays game I'd cut you some slack, but to ask this question after the answer has been clearly given is pretty pointless, as the answer is pretty obvious.

What more productive thread? Whether orton outscores schaub. You sir, are simply being a jerk. Move along if you think our discussion is beneath your obvious extreme high intelect.

I'll give you that. This on par with an lhucks thread.and I somewhat am poking fun tongue in cheek, as there is decent analysis to be done on how injured Turner is etc, but asking if a guy who just clocked 40 FF pts in relief is worth an add is pretty funny.

 

[NoCheese]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

Yes. in making fun of your initial question I was hoping to drive people to a more productive thread. Snelling was an obvious handcuff for Turner owners and even nonowners stashing a lottery ticket. Had you asked this question BEFORE sundays game I'd cut you some slack, but to ask this question after the answer has been clearly given is pretty pointless, as the answer is pretty obvious.

What more productive thread? Whether orton outscores schaub? You sir, are simply being a jerk. Move along if you think our discussion is beneath your obvious extreme high intellect.

C'mon now, HLWP was making a good point. He's not being a jerk. Assuming an average/large bench, adding Snelling is a no brainer, especially if you have Turner

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

I'm in a league with small rosters. I own Turner. The worst player I can drop is Louis Murphy. But he's a part of my wrbc for the #5 role on my team and wr's can have awfully high value.Should I drop him even if Turner is back and healthy?

A much more interesting scenario. I'd keep snelling as he's shown he can handle (and will be given) the starting gig if Turner is down/out and becomes an Inst-RB1-type when turner is out. Protecting the RB1 position on your team is more valuable that fishing for WR5's (on the raiders no less) who you likely will never start anyway.

I started him this week. And I got 15 points from my #5 guy...he outscored my opponent's #1 guy and was part of the reason I squeaked out a victory (I won by 4). He would get scooped up rather quickly if I dropped him. Yet Snelling is still on the ww. As is Tolbert, Bernard Scott, Donald Brown...with small rosters you really don't have room to handcuff many (if any) of your players. Or if you do handcuff someone it comes at the expense of your current starting roster. Heck, even if Turner gets hurt and misses one or two weeks my team should be able to manage without him. The only way he becomes a crucial piece to my lineup is if Turner starts missing a month plus. I really doubt I'm the only person in this type of situation. If I have big rosters then of course I'd snag him. But for many of us it's a rather difficult decision.

 

[heidbrink]

Ok a guy rushes and receives for over 200 yards and 3 tds in 3/4 of a game, and you have to ask whether he is worth an add...

Was this supposed to be helpful?

Yes. in making fun of your initial question I was hoping to drive people to a more productive thread. Snelling was an obvious handcuff for Turner owners and even nonowners stashing a lottery ticket. Had you asked this question BEFORE sundays game I'd cut you some slack, but to ask this question after the answer has been clearly given is pretty pointless, as the answer is pretty obvious.

What more productive thread? Whether orton outscores schaub. You sir, are simply being a jerk. Move along if you think our discussion is beneath your obvious extreme high intelect.

I'll give you that. This on par with an lhucks thread.and I somewhat am poking fun tongue in cheek, as there is decent analysis to be done on how injured Turner is etc, but asking if a guy who just clocked 40 FF pts in relief is worth an add is pretty funny.

Yes, I thought there was a lot of decent analysis here to be done. There were some good comments in here before you felt it necessary to add your snide remarks. If you have something to contribute to the discussion, please do.