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Tyree Should be MVP (1 Viewer)
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
KoolKat
Footballguy
bluesclues
Footballguy
Eli was clutch.
Quit hating.....Tyree made great plays, but so did many players - watch that D line!
Quit hating.....Tyree made great plays, but so did many players - watch that D line!
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Pats fan. I agree Tyree should be the MVP.
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
Eli Manning played a great game and I have no problem with him being MVP. Tyree made the best Super Bowl catch I have seen and I'm still in shock he held onto the ball going down.
The true MVP of the game should have come from the Giants D-Line though. They were as dominating a unit in a Super Bowl that I remember seeing. Perhaps it should have been MVPs and gave the award to the entire group.
Great game!
The true MVP of the game should have come from the Giants D-Line though. They were as dominating a unit in a Super Bowl that I remember seeing. Perhaps it should have been MVPs and gave the award to the entire group.
Great game!
Don't know how it went this long before anyone said this. The Patriots offensive line was DOMINANT this year. Brady rarely had to do laundry on Monday, and his offense set a scoring record. Then the Giants manage to get intense pressure without having to rely heavily on the blitz, and the Patriots get held to 14 points. It'd be hard to single out one lineman that played the best, so I would have given the MVP to Strahan (for career achievement) or Tuck (for the best stats), assuming it wasn't possible to reward the entire unit.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
WHO CARES THE GIANTS WON!!! 
Knight who says Ni
Footballguy
I agree 100% with both posts ... Tuck was just a machine. NY Giants defense is the real MVP for this game, but I do have to give credit to Eli. Marching the team 80+ yards with a little over 2 minutes left for the game winner was ... well, Brady-likeNi
brednbuddah
Footballguy
actually, there's no way the Giants win if it weren't for that D. They harassed Brady all night - take out the head and the body follows. way to go Giants.
Tyree made a Super Bowl play that can only be matched by Swann, no doubt, but Eli earned it.
By the way, how happy are you that the Giants won the Super Bowl WITHOUT EGO MANIAC TIKI!
Justice has been served.
Tyree made a Super Bowl play that can only be matched by Swann, no doubt, but Eli earned it.
By the way, how happy are you that the Giants won the Super Bowl WITHOUT EGO MANIAC TIKI!
Justice has been served.
Knight who says Ni
Footballguy
heh, I didn't even think about that until you just posted it ... what an amazingly odd year this has been. Ni
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Yep - that's the bottom line. Maybe if Tyree made that other catch that got tipped to him.I also didn't see Tyree catching the game winning catch.Tyree was awesome but Eli's scramble on the huge play at the end was just as big as the catch.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
The D-line kept the Giants in it long enough for Eli and Co to finally do something. They held the highest scoring team ever to 14 points. They took away the deep pass and harassed, hurried, and beat up one of the coolest quarterbacks in history. Eli and Tyree were clutch tonight, but if the D-line's performance was anything short of freaking outstanding, the Pats win by 10. Tuck would have been my choice.
Mr. Sparkle
Footballguy
The right guy won the MVP
coolnerd
Footballguy
Yep, a good portion of the QBs in the nfl either don't escape or escape only to throw the ball out of bounds. He gave his guy a chance to make a great catch.
The Jerk
Footballguy
First off, I'd love to have seen the entire DL, but more importantly give Eli his due! What more does he need to do? The Tyree TD was a catch that I'd like to think most Div. I WRs would make 80% of the time or more. Also, he made the spectacular catch but then dropped one that was not nearly as difficult (although barely tipped by Samuel). Finally, the catch becomes a footnote if Eli doesn't follow it up with a 3rd down conversion to Smith and then a TD to Burress. No way I give Tyree the nod over what Eli did for 60 minutes.
RC94
Footballguy
Eli deserves to be MVP over Tyree, but the D-Line was the real MVP for the Giants.Tanner9919
Footballguy
Nah, if it wasn't Eli, it most likely would have been Osi.quit nitpicking, the Giants won the game, thats ALL that matters..who cares about individual awards.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
There are always multiple players who could legitimately be named the MVP of a Super Bowl. But c'mon. Two 4th quarter touchdown drives including capping off an 83-yard drive in the final minute to win the game over supposedly the "greatest team ever"? That is legendary. With all the pressure squarely on Eli he made the game's biggest plays to pull off the miracle. Give him his MVP.
Enforcer
Footballguy
Ugh. I don't get this. He didn't play great. He got lucky. Did you not see him loft several ducks up in the air in the fourth quarter? Do you think that long pass to Tyree was skill? He totally threw that up for grabs. The one that Samuel dropped was even worse.I guess not much changes. Quarterbacks will continue to get way too much blame along with way too much credit.
beavers
Footballguy
I am not a Giants or Pat's fan but to me it seems that you have ill feelings toward Manning. The QB stepped it up in the biggest game of his life. He completed passes and won the game. C'mon, give him some credit.Ugh. I don't get this. He didn't play great. He got lucky. Did you not see him loft several ducks up in the air in the fourth quarter? Do you think that long pass to Tyree was skill? He totally threw that up for grabs. The one that Samuel dropped was even worse.I guess not much changes. Quarterbacks will continue to get way too much blame along with way too much credit.
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
What a fraud. The Giants D-Line was the MVP. Tuck, Umenyiora, Strahan, Robbins they were the difference in the game. Incredible performance!
Enforcer
Footballguy
I like to think I'm a Manning fan too. I really wanted him to play well, but I'm not a blind homer. I think I'm able to step back and objectively analyze his play. I don't think he played that well. If you step back and grade his play one pass at a time I think you'll come to the same conclusion unless all we care about is the scoreboard. If that's all that matters in determining MVP, well, I don't know what to say to that. He played well enough to win, but he certainly wasn't "most valuable". Too many people see "2 TD" and compare that the QB on the other sideline. He had more so he must have been better. That's complete crap. The Giant D-Liine won this game.I am not a Giants or Pat's fan but to me it seems that you have ill feelings toward Manning. The QB stepped it up in the biggest game of his life. He completed passes and won the game. C'mon, give him some credit.Ugh. I don't get this. He didn't play great. He got lucky. Did you not see him loft several ducks up in the air in the fourth quarter? Do you think that long pass to Tyree was skill? He totally threw that up for grabs. The one that Samuel dropped was even worse.I guess not much changes. Quarterbacks will continue to get way too much blame along with way too much credit.
This reasoning gave Tom Brady and his 150 yards passing an MVP in 2001. That was the worst MVP performance in history- he was basically awarded the MVP for going 30 yards at the end of the game.If Manning had played better during the first three quarters, he wouldn't have needed those heroics at the end. If the D-line had played worse during the first three quarters, the fourth quarter would have been entirely irrelevant.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Eli was the definition of "clutchness" tonight.
Koya
Footballguy
Watched the NFL Replay on NFL Channel today, and goodness, Eli's fourth quarter is absolutely as deserving of an MVP as anyone.
His fourth quarter stats in twice bringing his team from behind to truly win the game for the Giants:
9 for 14, 152 Yards, 140.5 QB Rating
Only QB other than Montana to have 2 fourth quarter TD passes in the SB
Only QB EVER to have two 80+ yard drives in the fourth quarter in the SB = and they both ended with go ahead TD passes from Eli.
Yeah, the D line was awesome and they Giants would not have won without it. But as far as one single player, no way do they win without his leadership on those two huge fourth quarter drives.
His fourth quarter stats in twice bringing his team from behind to truly win the game for the Giants:
9 for 14, 152 Yards, 140.5 QB Rating
Only QB other than Montana to have 2 fourth quarter TD passes in the SB
Only QB EVER to have two 80+ yard drives in the fourth quarter in the SB = and they both ended with go ahead TD passes from Eli.
Yeah, the D line was awesome and they Giants would not have won without it. But as far as one single player, no way do they win without his leadership on those two huge fourth quarter drives.
No. 16
Footballguy
Eli had done what Brady has never done... lead his team to a GAME WINNING TOUCHDOWN.... not FG. Again if you can't/don't want to give it to the DL then you gotta give it to Eli. It' is Most Valuable PLAYER... so while the DL was the biggest factor it was due to their collective pressure.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The first QB in the history of the NFL to bring his team back to win when the team needed a TD (a FG wouldn't cut it). Tyree had a fantastic catch and also caught a TD, but Eli was deserving. The DL was deserving as well.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Joe Montana to John Taylor
wharf rat
Footballguy
I think what he is implying is that the 49'ers could have settled for a FG and sent game into OT at 16-16.The Giants were down by 4 and needed a TD. A FG meant nothing.
Koya
Footballguy
No one is claiming that Eli had a perfect game - but just as we can't ignore a couple poor throws that could have been trouble, we can't ignore Brady's same bad throws (he had a couple that were badly underthrown for example) that could have /should have been picked off as well.Eli, as he did throughout the playoffs, made a LOT of very very good throws. What most impressed me about Eli's playoff run was his accuracy. Yeah, there were some bad throws but far far less of them than in the regular season. In addition, he was not just getting the ball to his receivers, he was getting them in perfect position more often than not - position to gain yards after the catch (the Boss play for excample), position to get first downs with a very very narrow window (a number of TDs to Toomer and the one to Tyree fall under this category as well). This was also evident in the Super Bowl.Again, 4th quarter of a defensive struggle saw 9/14 with two 80+ yard drives both ending in passing TDs. Yes, the DL was the best unit,but Eli was clearly the most valuable single player.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
You aren't very good at arithmetic, are you? Eli turned the ball over once (off a deflection that wasn't his fault). He led his team to two touchdowns. This makes your last statement that I quoted false.As to the question, Tyree's catch was possibly the best in SB history, but Eli was the MVP.
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No. 16
Footballguy
What was more difficult?Tyree catch or Eli escaping death and launching the ball to Tyree?I vote Eli escaping death, b/c I could've sworn that he would go down and the game would be over.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Didn't he also have a couple fumbles? I thought those counted as turnovers too.
RC94
Footballguy
Don't the fumbles have to be recovered by the other team in order for them to be a turnover?
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
I would agree, but is that the way we are determining MVPs now - the guy who had the toughest job on a solitary play?
