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[AhrnCityPahnder]

Chael Sonnen quickly becoming one of my favs. Several 's in this.

http://news.fightmagazine.com/chael-sonnen...r-to-fans-6058/

With the biggest fight of his life less than four weeks away and a legion of fans and fighters awaiting his supposed demise, Chael Sonnen has found a measure of solace alone in the spotlight.

On August 7, Sonnen will face Anderson Silva for the middleweight title at UFC 117. Until then, he is insistent on remaining one of the most polarizing figures in MMA. He entertained the crowd with stand-up comedy before UFC 115, but also angered Silva fans with his comic-book bravado. His negativity towards Silva, considered by many to be the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, has also drawn him into a war of words with Silva’s manager, Ed Soares, and teammate Antonio Rogerio Nogueira. In June, Sonnen quietly pulled out of the Oregon congressional race while loudly engaging in an interview fiasco – for lack of a better term – with a MMA journalist.

Heavily repudiated but never duplicated, Sonnen turned up the heat in an open letter to his “fans” on Wednesday:

“Hi, everybody! Remember me? Your ol’ buddy Chael? Y’know I spend most of my time fightin’, which doesn’t leave much time for writin’, but things being what they are, I’ve decided to take a moment or two, and fire up the ol’ Olivetti typewriter, put in a fresh ribbon, and share some of my recent thoughts with you….

Firstly, I’ve gotten a significant amount of feedback regarding my “correspondence” with MMA…..”Journalist” Jon Lane…So….To any and all members of the media: I’m always happy to talk and share my time and ideas with you. And I appreciate your efforts in contacting me, and instead of ‘circling the wagons’ around a “fellow journalist”, for applauding my efforts to….FIX things. Do me a favor, guys. Don’t be so hard on JonJon. He’ll get it. Bring him along, help him out here & there. I kinda like him. And Jon…..No hard feelings. Really. If you re-read our correspondence in the cold, hard, light of day, you’ll see I was trying to….HELP you.

I never expected you to be Umberto Eco; but those questions… guy! I mean COME ON. So buck up, little soldier. If you fall off, just get right back on – even if it’s only a keyboard you’re getting on.

And Lil’ Nog…..I read your appraisal of the upcoming fight betwixt your pal Anderson and yours truly and, I’ll be damned, you are one sharp dude…. about as sharp as a bag of wet mice.

Do yourself a favor: have your mouthpiece permanently installed in your mouth so you can’t speak at all. Have them feed you with a tube like a coma patient. You’re not doing Anderson any good and you’re sinking your own ship too. You say I’m not qualified to fight Anderson…Which means that the UFC brain trust – that thinks I AM and are also YOUR BOSSES — are idiots. It also means Ed Soares – Anderson’s manager and YOUR MANAGER TOO – doesn’t know what he’s doing, either. Smooth, guy. Very smooth. Do you have any other brilliant ideas or scathing critiques you care to impart to the UFC Brass or your own manager? Maybe that shot Sokodjou hit you with was worse than it looked (if that’s even possible).

You seem like a nice enough guy, and I have no real beef with you (Oh, and speaking of beef: If you can turn your disk over at the Rodizio once in awhile and get down to “185,” there’s gonna be a new sheriff there in less than a month who’ll be happy to ride you right back out of town on a rail). So please see this as the kind of well-intentioned advice I would give to a friend or training partner. And if you lose a few (you looked like Roy Nelson in a Frankenstein mask for that Brilz fight… which you lost, buddyboy), we can scrap in the Fall.

And Ed, I saw your recent comments. Not bad work. Hats off. You come across as professional and accountable in every respect…which makes your inability to control, explain or denounce Anderson’s behavior quite puzzling to me. THAT’S one of the main reasons we are where we are with all this: because you can’t make him fight.

You can’t explain why he does what he does and you refuse to give a consistent, rational explanation for it. It’s like you keep trying to sell the kids faulty fireworks that turn around after 10 feet and come screaming back and hit them in the eye or blow their hands off.

Are you aware that you represent the generally acknowledged best fighter in the world in the premier promotion on planet Earth and that the president of that company has promised to FIRE HIM for his behavior?

Aren’t you just a little embarrassed by that?

And that’s got NOTHING to do with me, or even this fight.

Imagine: Your team is on the two-yard line in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, but your star quarterback disregards the head coach’s instructions and calls a play where he throws the ball to a popcorn vendor in the sixth row, then eats a piece of turf and craps in his helmet on the 50-yard line.

Do you know who he’s REALLY mad at? NOT the fans or the opposing team…he’s mad at daddy; he’s mad at the coach!

WHY?

What causes that encoded hostility?

Is your fighter insane? If he is – and you therefore cannot reasonably predict his behavior – isn’t it incumbent upon YOU to find a way to fix it?

Don’t you owe that to the sport?

To the fans?

To his boss, Dana White?

And lastly… don’t you owe a debt to HIM and his long-term psychological well-being? Shouldn’t you get him the help he needs, before one of his irrational, unexplainable acts causes himself or someone else genuine harm? If he’s irrational and uncontrollable, put him in a psych ward. If he’s fine, prove it by giving a legitimate, rational, explanation for his actions in Abu Dhabi. I’m the one who has to fight him.

What’s going on, exactly?

…OK kids…….Chael has to go get all sweaty again.”

 

[zander_s]

Chael Sonnen quickly becoming one of my favs. Several 's in this.

http://news.fightmagazine.com/chael-sonnen...r-to-fans-6058/

With the biggest fight of his life less than four weeks away and a legion of fans and fighters awaiting his supposed demise, Chael Sonnen has found a measure of solace alone in the spotlight.

On August 7, Sonnen will face Anderson Silva for the middleweight title at UFC 117. Until then, he is insistent on remaining one of the most polarizing figures in MMA. He entertained the crowd with stand-up comedy before UFC 115, but also angered Silva fans with his comic-book bravado. His negativity towards Silva, considered by many to be the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, has also drawn him into a war of words with Silva's manager, Ed Soares, and teammate Antonio Rogerio Nogueira. In June, Sonnen quietly pulled out of the Oregon congressional race while loudly engaging in an interview fiasco – for lack of a better term – with a MMA journalist.

Heavily repudiated but never duplicated, Sonnen turned up the heat in an open letter to his "fans" on Wednesday:

"Hi, everybody! Remember me? Your ol' buddy Chael? Y'know I spend most of my time fightin', which doesn't leave much time for writin', but things being what they are, I've decided to take a moment or two, and fire up the ol' Olivetti typewriter, put in a fresh ribbon, and share some of my recent thoughts with you….

Firstly, I've gotten a significant amount of feedback regarding my "correspondence" with MMA….."Journalist" Jon Lane…So….To any and all members of the media: I'm always happy to talk and share my time and ideas with you. And I appreciate your efforts in contacting me, and instead of 'circling the wagons' around a "fellow journalist", for applauding my efforts to….FIX things. Do me a favor, guys. Don't be so hard on JonJon. He'll get it. Bring him along, help him out here & there. I kinda like him. And Jon…..No hard feelings. Really. If you re-read our correspondence in the cold, hard, light of day, you'll see I was trying to….HELP you.

I never expected you to be Umberto Eco; but those questions… guy! I mean COME ON. So buck up, little soldier. If you fall off, just get right back on – even if it's only a keyboard you're getting on.

And Lil' Nog…..I read your appraisal of the upcoming fight betwixt your pal Anderson and yours truly and, I'll be damned, you are one sharp dude…. about as sharp as a bag of wet mice.

Do yourself a favor: have your mouthpiece permanently installed in your mouth so you can't speak at all. Have them feed you with a tube like a coma patient. You're not doing Anderson any good and you're sinking your own ship too. You say I'm not qualified to fight Anderson…Which means that the UFC brain trust – that thinks I AM and are also YOUR BOSSES — are idiots. It also means Ed Soares – Anderson's manager and YOUR MANAGER TOO – doesn't know what he's doing, either. Smooth, guy. Very smooth. Do you have any other brilliant ideas or scathing critiques you care to impart to the UFC Brass or your own manager? Maybe that shot Sokodjou hit you with was worse than it looked (if that's even possible).

You seem like a nice enough guy, and I have no real beef with you (Oh, and speaking of beef: If you can turn your disk over at the Rodizio once in awhile and get down to "185," there's gonna be a new sheriff there in less than a month who'll be happy to ride you right back out of town on a rail). So please see this as the kind of well-intentioned advice I would give to a friend or training partner. And if you lose a few (you looked like Roy Nelson in a Frankenstein mask for that Brilz fight… which you lost, buddyboy), we can scrap in the Fall.

And Ed, I saw your recent comments. Not bad work. Hats off. You come across as professional and accountable in every respect…which makes your inability to control, explain or denounce Anderson's behavior quite puzzling to me. THAT'S one of the main reasons we are where we are with all this: because you can't make him fight.

You can't explain why he does what he does and you refuse to give a consistent, rational explanation for it. It's like you keep trying to sell the kids faulty fireworks that turn around after 10 feet and come screaming back and hit them in the eye or blow their hands off.

Are you aware that you represent the generally acknowledged best fighter in the world in the premier promotion on planet Earth and that the president of that company has promised to FIRE HIM for his behavior?

Aren't you just a little embarrassed by that?

And that's got NOTHING to do with me, or even this fight.

Imagine: Your team is on the two-yard line in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, but your star quarterback disregards the head coach's instructions and calls a play where he throws the ball to a popcorn vendor in the sixth row, then eats a piece of turf and craps in his helmet on the 50-yard line.

Do you know who he's REALLY mad at? NOT the fans or the opposing team…he's mad at daddy; he's mad at the coach!

WHY?

What causes that encoded hostility?

Is your fighter insane? If he is – and you therefore cannot reasonably predict his behavior – isn't it incumbent upon YOU to find a way to fix it?

Don't you owe that to the sport?

To the fans?

To his boss, Dana White?

And lastly… don't you owe a debt to HIM and his long-term psychological well-being? Shouldn't you get him the help he needs, before one of his irrational, unexplainable acts causes himself or someone else genuine harm? If he's irrational and uncontrollable, put him in a psych ward. If he's fine, prove it by giving a legitimate, rational, explanation for his actions in Abu Dhabi. I'm the one who has to fight him.

What's going on, exactly?

…OK kids…….Chael has to go get all sweaty again."

He does give good letter!!!

 

[Clayton Gray]

Jake Shields signs with UFC, returning to welterweight division

Former Strikeforce middleweight champion Jake Shields (25-4-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) is no longer a free agent.

As expected, Shields has officially signed with the UFC, and will soon make his debut for the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion.

And while Shields' father and manager, Jack Shields, in June told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that his son would likely test the waters of the UFC's middleweight division, Jake will instead drop down to his more natural fighting weight of 170 pounds.

The announcement was made Thursday night on GracieFighter.com, a website owned by Shields' trainer, Cesar Gracie.

"Jake Shields will be debuting at the 170-pound weight division in the UFC," the announcement stated. "After careful consideration and consulting with UFC representatives it was determined Jake would be finally going back to his original fighting weight.

"Jake's opponent is one of the UFC's top contenders and will be announced shortly."

UFC president Dana White told MMAjunkie.com earlier this month that he would allow Shields to decide in what division he would like to fight, but he also did little to hide his thoughts on what the right decision would be.

"I think he should come in at 170 pounds," White said. "Our 185-pound division is nasty. He can [come in as a middleweight] if he wants to. I don't think he wants to."

Prior to his three-fight run in Strikeforce, Shields was also EliteXC's first and only welterweight champion. He moved up to a 182-pound catchweight limit and defeated Robbie Lawler in June 2009 before claiming Strikeforce's vacant middleweight title by defeating Jason "Mayhem" Miller in November 2009.

Shields defended the title in an upset win over Dan Henderson in April, but his contract, which was inherited by Strikeforce, did not contain a champion's clause, thus allowing him to become a free agent.

Shields is currently riding a 14-fight win streak that dates back to 2005. In addition to the wins over Henderson, Lawler and Miller, Shields has also defeated UFC veterans Paul Daley, Nick Thompson, Mike Pyle, Renato Verissimo, Carlos Condit, Yushin Okami and Dave Menne during his current run.

 

[Abrantes]

Big fan of Shields' talent. The top of the UFC welterweight division is a murderer's row of tough wrestlers, so he'll have to set himself apart with his excellent jiu-jitsu.

 

[hooter311]

Big fan of Shields' talent. The top of the UFC welterweight division is a murderer's row of tough wrestlers, so he'll have to set himself apart with his excellent jiu-jitsu.

I think the win streak continues regardless who he is matched for his first fight. Knowing Silva, it's not going to be a cakewalk welcome party.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

What are the upcoming fights at welterweight?

GSP vs Koscheck

Fitch vs Alves

Hardy vs Condit

Kampman vs ?

Thiago vs ?

 

[Abrantes]

What are the upcoming fights at welterweight?GSP vs KoscheckFitch vs AlvesHardy vs ConditKampman vs ?Thiago vs ?

Yup, plus Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida (the other guy with insane jiu-jitsu in the weight class) and Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis, if you want to go a little further down the rankings. I've heard Kampmann could be a possible opponent for Shields, which would definitely count as throwing him in the fire, but it's a fight he should win.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Shields is going to struggle at WW in the UFC. Too many good wrestlers who won't allow him to get them to the ground and they'll dummy him on the feet like Hendo did.

 

[Abrantes]

Shields is going to struggle at WW in the UFC. Too many good wrestlers who won't allow him to get them to the ground and they'll dummy him on the feet like Hendo did.

While I agree that Shields will have a hard time climbing the ranks, he is a persistent bugger with his takedowns, and probably good enough to get the fight to the ground against anyone not named St. Pierre unless he gets taken down first. His technique is certainly not as pretty as Koscheck's, for instance, but he has gotten the job done even against bigger guys like Hendo and Okami. I think he can hang with the top welterweights.We're probably on the same page regarding Shields' striking, though.

 

[Possum]

Shields is going to struggle at WW in the UFC. Too many good wrestlers who won't allow him to get them to the ground and they'll dummy him on the feet like Hendo did.

While I agree that Shields will have a hard time climbing the ranks, he is a persistent bugger with his takedowns, and probably good enough to get the fight to the ground against anyone not named St. Pierre unless he gets taken down first. His technique is certainly not as pretty as Koscheck's, for instance, but he has gotten the job done even against bigger guys like Hendo and Okami. I think he can hang with the top welterweights.We're probably on the same page regarding Shields' striking, though.

I would rather watch grass grow than watch a Jake Shields fight, but the guy is definitely excellent at getting an opponent to the ground and keeping him there - I agree with you that he probably dry-humps his way to victory against 95% of the division.if anyone can keep it standing with him, though, his win streak is gonna end posthaste. It's nuts to me how a guy with that kind of record can have such ineffective striking - I'd be willing to bet that there are quite a few female fighters who could take him out in a straight boxing match.

 

[modogg]

What are the upcoming fights at welterweight?GSP vs KoscheckFitch vs AlvesHardy vs ConditKampman vs ?Thiago vs ?

Yup, plus Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida (the other guy with insane jiu-jitsu in the weight class) and Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis, if you want to go a little further down the rankings. I've heard Kampmann could be a possible opponent for Shields, which would definitely count as throwing him in the fire, but it's a fight he should win.

I've also heard rumblings that since Hardy-Condit are not official at this point, that it could possibly be Shields-Hardy. I doubt that though since Joe Silva would like to give Hardy some time to work on his wrestling and takedown defense. 2 other WW's to keep in mind are Mike Swick and Rory Markham. Rory will likely get the Jon Jones treatment, but Swick as up there before he lost to Paulo. Another fight coming up that i am having a tough time figuring out how it may look is Maia-Belcher. That should be a good fight, and on paper it looks like striker vs. grappler, but i don't know if that is how the fight will play out.

 

[modogg]

Apparently Pellegrino tore his meniscus and ACL in teh 1st round of his fight with Pellegrino. It's always funny reading stuff like this and then looking at the injury reports in other sports:

http://www.cagepotato.com/exclusive-kurt-p...real-next-fight

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Apparently Pellegrino tore his meniscus and ACL in teh 1st round of his fight with Pellegrino. It's always funny reading stuff like this and then looking at the injury reports in other sports:

http://www.cagepotato.com/exclusive-kurt-p...real-next-fight

You know you're a badass when you tear ligaments kicking your own ###

 

[Abrantes]

Apparently Pellegrino tore his meniscus and ACL in teh 1st round of his fight with Pellegrino. It's always funny reading stuff like this and then looking at the injury reports in other sports:

http://www.cagepotato.com/exclusive-kurt-p...real-next-fight

You know you're a badass when you tear ligaments kicking your own ###

Makes perfect sense, though. Pellegrino didn't look right at all in the last two rounds.

 

[EYLive]

I Sonnen

 

[modogg]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

I'm getting really sick of hearing Sonnen yap.

 

[Sebowski]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

I'm getting really sick of hearing Sonnen yap.

I have feeling Anderson is too. I see a little Couture-Ortiz spanking shctick coming Sonnen's way. He's going to have to eat through a tube when Anderson is done with him. The good part about Sonnen's yapping is he might talk betters into going with him and drive Anderson's line down.

 

[Abrantes]

Sonnen's ####-talking is awesome. If Anderson already felt like teaching Demian a lesson for a stray comment or two that rubbed him the wrong way, I can't imagine the kind of pain he wants to inflict on Sonnen. One way or another, it should be a good fight...I hope.

 

[Clayton Gray]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

I'm getting really sick of hearing Sonnen yap.

Agreed. Seems ultra forced and unnatural.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Sonnen's ####-talking is awesome.

 

[modogg]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

I'm getting really sick of hearing Sonnen yap.

I have feeling Anderson is too. I see a little Couture-Ortiz spanking shctick coming Sonnen's way. He's going to have to eat through a tube when Anderson is done with him. The good part about Sonnen's yapping is he might talk betters into going with him and drive Anderson's line down.

I was watching something on Spike this week with the best fights of 2009, and they had the Forrest Griffin - Anderson Silva fight. I like taking the big dogs sometimes, and usually over the course of time it has worked out, but it will be some time before i would bet against Silva. I have no idea what Chael can do to Anderson, and I agree that Anderson will make a mockery of him. I assume he can get through this fight relatively injury free, and we can hopefully get a Vitor Belfort -Silva fight by the end of the year or for the Super Bowl card they like to build up

 

[scoobus]

What are the upcoming fights at welterweight?

GSP vs Koscheck

Fitch vs Alves

Hardy vs Condit

Kampman vs ?

Thiago vs ?

Yup, plus Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida (the other guy with insane jiu-jitsu in the weight class) and Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis, if you want to go a little further down the rankings. I've heard Kampmann could be a possible opponent for Shields, which would definitely count as throwing him in the fire, but it's a fight he should win.

I've also heard rumblings that since Hardy-Condit are not official at this point, that it could possibly be Shields-Hardy. I doubt that though since Joe Silva would like to give Hardy some time to work on his wrestling and takedown defense. 2 other WW's to keep in mind are Mike Swick and Rory Markham. Rory will likely get the Jon Jones treatment, but Swick as up there before he lost to Paulo. Another fight coming up that i am having a tough time figuring out how it may look is Maia-Belcher. That should be a good fight, and on paper it looks like striker vs. grappler, but i don't know if that is how the fight will play out.

I know this is an accident, but confusing Rory Markham with Rory MacDonald is inexcusable!

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I Sonnen

He does deserve a bonus for his promotion of UFC 117. I know it is a week or 2 away, but he is the only one drumming up interest for the event. You can't expect Fitch or Alves to hype it up too much (though Alves promised to KO Fitch which i was happy to hear), same with Silva. My favorite so far from Chael is the clip of him yelling at Silva as he was signing autographs at a recent UFC.

I'm getting really sick of hearing Sonnen yap.

Agreed. Seems ultra forced and unnatural.

He was funny at first but it has just got ridiculous. Taking shots at the Nogueira's was unnecessary and pathetic.

 

[theglorydays]

Did anybody watch impact fc?

 

[modogg]

Did anybody watch impact fc?

I didn't see it the night it came out, but have seen a lot of the "highlight" clips at this point. I will give them credit for giving it a good shot, and may put them ahead of some of the other promotions starting up like Moosin, but they have a long way to go. Criminal that they tried to charge $30 for that mess as well. And please someone give Ken Shamrock a commentating gig or something. He wuold be horrible, but watching him get beat up every time he is out there is getting hard to watch

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Did anybody watch impact fc?

I didn't see it the night it came out, but have seen a lot of the "highlight" clips at this point. I will give them credit for giving it a good shot, and may put them ahead of some of the other promotions starting up like Moosin, but they have a long way to go. Criminal that they tried to charge $30 for that mess as well. And please someone give Ken Shamrock a commentating gig or something. He wuold be horrible, but watching him get beat up every time he is out there is getting hard to watch

You'd think that a guy who has been fighting since 1993 would have learned how to check a leg kick by now. I don't feel too bad for him.

 

[sheerterror]

A bunch of new lines opened up for some upcoming fights.

Maxed out Matthew Riddle -120 over DaMarques Johnson - thanks to my local for that beautiful line.

 

[Sebowski]

I like Fitch at -110. He should be able to implement his Fitch/GSP style gameplan.

Almieda -175 looks good too.

 

[modogg]

Interesting point with UFC 117 I was totally missing is that it will basically be US vs. Brazil: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/21/15809...ting-ufc-117-as. Good article as well.

And Sheer, what has you loving Riddle over Johnson so much? I have been checking sportsbook quite a bit, and they haven't opened up a new line in some time. They did open some lines for the Strikeforce Challengers show this weekend, but i don't know a ton about that card.

 

[modogg]

I like Fitch at -110. He should be able to implement his Fitch/GSP style gameplan.

I have to disagree quite a bit here. Fitch was not impressive at all against Ben Saunders, and Sasunders has some horrible takedown defense. not saying Alves has improved his so drastically, but i don't see how Fitch can dominate that well. In fact, I just looked at Fitch's latest fights were his decision wins over Saunders, Pierce, Paulo Thiago, and Gono. I can't remember the fight against Pierce and Gono too well, but he certainly was not that impressive in his fights against Saunders and Thiago so unless Fitch can lay and pray for 2 of the 3 rounds (which is possible, but i don't see how Alves doesn't realise this is the only way Fitch can beat him so he focuses purely on preventing this) I have no idea how he can win this.

 

[modogg]

I feel like i have given enough money back to the sportsbooks lately through dopey baseball betting, and I am ready to take some of that money back. Anybody have a feel for any of the fights on the Strikeforce card this weekend?

Ryan Hayes -135 vs. Brent Knopp +105

Caros Fodor -325 vs. Ousmane Thomas Diagne +250

Cory Devela -185 vs. Bobby Voelker +155

Mike Kyle -185 vs. Ron Humphrey +155

Shane del Rosario -350 vs. Lolohea Mahe +275

Sarah Kaufman -500 vs. Roxanne Modafferi +300

Certainly not too confident in any of the picks, but I am thinking about giving a shot with Voelker and Humphrey. May also put a little on Roxanne since i think the line is a little too generous to Kaufman and Modafferi has a better chance then +300. Not a very enticing card, but Voelker looked goiod in his fight against Bowling and from what I have looked up on Devela it isn't too intimidating. Not overly confident in "Abongo" Humphrey, but i certainly think that fight is closer to a coin toss then what the lines show

 

[modogg]

I never realized how good Jon Anik was until he was off for tonight's episode of MMA Live. Great decision by ESPN to use Jon Coachman as a fill-in . With-in 3 minutes I was already getting annoyed by him, but then realized i should be thankful because I never thought of Jon Anik as such a positive force for MMA Live.

 

[sheerterror]

Interesting point with UFC 117 I was totally missing is that it will basically be US vs. Brazil: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/21/15809...ting-ufc-117-as. Good article as well.

And Sheer, what has you loving Riddle over Johnson so much? I have been checking sportsbook quite a bit, and they haven't opened up a new line in some time. They did open some lines for the Strikeforce Challengers show this weekend, but i don't know a ton about that card.

I didn't/don't love anything about it other than the fact that my local made -120 available when it opneed -150/+120 everywhere....figured at worst I'd buy out at breakeven when the lines shifted. Fortunately, early betting indicates that even the -150 was mispriced as Riddle has climbed to as high as -245. I've currently got +150 available on Johnson, but I'm going to wait to see if he moves to the +180 he's sitting around at some other sites. This would allow me to freeroll Riddle for around 3 units.

 

[Sebowski]

I like Fitch at -110. He should be able to implement his Fitch/GSP style gameplan.

I have to disagree quite a bit here. Fitch was not impressive at all against Ben Saunders, and Sasunders has some horrible takedown defense. not saying Alves has improved his so drastically, but i don't see how Fitch can dominate that well. In fact, I just looked at Fitch's latest fights were his decision wins over Saunders, Pierce, Paulo Thiago, and Gono. I can't remember the fight against Pierce and Gono too well, but he certainly was not that impressive in his fights against Saunders and Thiago so unless Fitch can lay and pray for 2 of the 3 rounds (which is possible, but i don't see how Alves doesn't realise this is the only way Fitch can beat him so he focuses purely on preventing this) I have no idea how he can win this.

Fitch knows how to win and he gets it donw. I' going to end up staying away from this fight.

I never realized how good Jon Anik was until he was off for tonight's episode of MMA Live. Great decision by ESPN to use Jon Coachman as a fill-in . With-in 3 minutes I was already getting annoyed by him, but then realized i should be thankful because I never thought of Jon Anik as such a positive force for MMA Live.

I love Coach. Haven''t seen this episode yet, but I have always loved Anik. That is a great show and he is a huger reason wau.

 

[Possum]

Did anybody watch impact fc?

yeah, I watched it online - the Filho-Kang fight was very good, and Paul Daley's opponent gave him a decent fight. Other than that it was pretty weak and the main event was a complete dud.the announcers provided a lot of unintentional comic relief, though, stuff like: (describing the size of a fighter) "He's got arms like legs and legs like little people!"

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I never realized how good Jon Anik was until he was off for tonight's episode of MMA Live. Great decision by ESPN to use Jon Coachman as a fill-in . With-in 3 minutes I was already getting annoyed by him, but then realized i should be thankful because I never thought of Jon Anik as such a positive force for MMA Live.

I just watched this. I didn't hate him.

 

[modogg]

I never realized how good Jon Anik was until he was off for tonight's episode of MMA Live. Great decision by ESPN to use Jon Coachman as a fill-in . With-in 3 minutes I was already getting annoyed by him, but then realized i should be thankful because I never thought of Jon Anik as such a positive force for MMA Live.

I just watched this. I didn't hate him.

Maybe i was just grumpy yesterday. I hope it was that and i am not turning into an MMA snob like the goofballs on sherdog. I think he started with some shtick (calling Torress like 3 different names before calling him Miguel) and maybe i wasn't ready for it.

 

[modogg]

Interesting point with UFC 117 I was totally missing is that it will basically be US vs. Brazil: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/21/15809...ting-ufc-117-as. Good article as well.

And Sheer, what has you loving Riddle over Johnson so much? I have been checking sportsbook quite a bit, and they haven't opened up a new line in some time. They did open some lines for the Strikeforce Challengers show this weekend, but i don't know a ton about that card.

I didn't/don't love anything about it other than the fact that my local made -120 available when it opneed -150/+120 everywhere....figured at worst I'd buy out at breakeven when the lines shifted. Fortunately, early betting indicates that even the -150 was mispriced as Riddle has climbed to as high as -245. I've currently got +150 available on Johnson, but I'm going to wait to see if he moves to the +180 he's sitting around at some other sites. This would allow me to freeroll Riddle for around 3 units.

Nice job man. I just looked at sportsbook and they opened up Riddle around -220. I know the line wasn't up yesterday, so unless it got hammered last night you got a great deal. And sportsbook is a real pain in the butt with their MMA lines. they didn't add any for weeks, and today they put about 25 or so on there. A lot of lines to look at.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Ugg... just finished watching MMA live. Gotta agree with Modogg re: Coachman. I sure hope he never hosts again.

And dear lord do I hope that Silva smashes a hole in Sonnen's face.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Free money to be had in arbitrage on the Riddle-Johnson fight.

Bodog has Demarcus +190 and SBG Global (http://www.sbgglobal.com/) has Riddle @ -150.

 

[Abrantes]

Interesting point with UFC 117 I was totally missing is that it will basically be US vs. Brazil.

Hell yeah.

 

[Pick]

Not really any good PPVs on the horizon, no?

 

[JHuber77]

UFC 121 is stacked. Oct 23rd at the Honda Center in Anaheim

Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez

Gabriel Gonzaga vs Brendan Schaub

Matt Hamill vs Tito Ortiz

Patrick Cote vs Tom Lawlor

Diego Sanchez vs Paulo Thiago

Todd Duffee vs Jon Madsen

Chris Camozzi vs Dongi Yang

Jake Shields vs Martin Kampmann

Paul Taylor vs Sam Stout

Court McGhee vs Ryan Jensen

 

[modogg]

some quick one's for tonight, probably missed some of these:

Stann +160

Munoz +160 (less then the rest)

Demarcus Johnson +190

Volkmann -130

i think the rest i had are already done.

One more: Matyushenko +475 for .20 unit. One of the bets pure on principle, no way Vlad should be this much of an underdog here.

 

[raisydaisy]

Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez

Anyone taking Cain, seen him at +150

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Not really any good PPVs on the horizon, no?

UFC 117 may not have the star power that a lot of PPVs have but all the matchups look really good on paper. I'm buying this one.

 

[Abrantes]

The Fireball Kid is my hero! Brutal shot for the knockout by Gomi. Got things started right tonight.

Edit: Almost forgot - suck it, Tyson.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

How much longer till jones' fight?

Eta: nevrmind. Holy crap is that eye nAsty!!!

 

[Abrantes]

Slick jiu-jitsu from Charles, though his opponent didn't defend all that well. Great debut for a really good guy.