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[Clayton Gray]

I would love to see GSP fight Paul Daley.

GSP would take him down five times.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I would love to see GSP fight Paul Daley.

GSP would take him down five times.

Daley would be tapping out after the 1st.

 

[Sebowski]

I do not want to see GSP-Anderson. Anderson is way too big for GSP. Nothing would come of the fight. They are both all-time greats. They don;t need to fight each other to prove that.

We get to see two of the greatest MMA fighters go at it? They do not need to fight each other to pad tier resumes for P4P GOAT, but as a fan I would love to see arguably the two best MMA fighters ever face each other.

At different points in their career out of their ideal weightclass.

Silva is getting older so that's why it needs to be done ASAP, but 15 pounds is not a lot of ground to make up considering that both of these guys rely on technique/skill more than athleticism. Now, don't get me wrong but both have top notch athleticism, but the focus of the fight will be top notch striking and the classic wrestler vs bjj match up on the ground. I'd rather see GSP fight Silva than run through all the Welterweights for the 3rd time.

First, 15 fight pounds is a lot to give up. Anderson has said he walks around between 215 and 220; GSP just said he walks around at 190. I think you are underestimating Anderson's size and/or overestimating GSP's. pic of Silva next to a big dude pic of GSP next to a little dude

Second, I feel Silva peaked a couple years ago, and GSP is peaking right now. I don't think making them fight would prove anything in an all-time p4p list. I'd much rather see Anderson move up and take on challenges at 205 (Shogun, Rampage, Rashad) and see GSP move down and clean out the lightweights. GSP said he does weight training to look good. He has a lot of "show" muscle. He can lose that, drop down, and clear out 155 if someone there is dominating while GSP takes care of the rest of his 170 business (Shields, probably Fitch again, and a Condit/Alves winner; that's a year's worth of fights). Yes, he would be the heavy favorite in all of those, but that I don't hold that against him.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I do not want to see GSP-Anderson. Anderson is way too big for GSP. Nothing would come of the fight. They are both all-time greats. They don;t need to fight each other to prove that.

We get to see two of the greatest MMA fighters go at it? They do not need to fight each other to pad tier resumes for P4P GOAT, but as a fan I would love to see arguably the two best MMA fighters ever face each other.

At different points in their career out of their ideal weightclass.

Silva is getting older so that's why it needs to be done ASAP, but 15 pounds is not a lot of ground to make up considering that both of these guys rely on technique/skill more than athleticism. Now, don't get me wrong but both have top notch athleticism, but the focus of the fight will be top notch striking and the classic wrestler vs bjj match up on the ground. I'd rather see GSP fight Silva than run through all the Welterweights for the 3rd time.

First, 15 fight pounds is a lot to give up. Anderson has said he walks around between 215 and 220; GSP just said he walks around at 190. I think you are underestimating Anderson's size and/or overestimating GSP's. pic of Silva next to a big dude pic of GSP next to a little dude

Second, I feel Silva peaked a couple years ago, and GSP is peaking right now. I don't think making them fight would prove anything in an all-time p4p list. I'd much rather see Anderson move up and take on challenges at 205 (Shogun, Rampage, Rashad) and see GSP move down and clean out the lightweights. GSP said he does weight training to look good. He has a lot of "show" muscle. He can lose that, drop down, and clear out 155 if someone there is dominating while GSP takes care of the rest of his 170 business (Shields, probably Fitch again, and a Condit/Alves winner; that's a year's worth of fights). Yes, he would be the heavy favorite in all of those, but that I don't hold that against him.

Pretty sure we are going to get GSP-Shields and Anderson-Sonnen II coming up. If both win those fights, the UFC might put together a Anderson-GSP fight. I'd be shocked if they don't do a Sonnen rematch ASAP because of how well that fight sold and the way Silva won.And GSP handles Shields with relative ease. GSP is the only elite level wrestler or grappler who seemingly has any striking chops. Koscceck's striking was abysmal, his entire arsenal was a wild right hook or a jab-wild right hook combo. Really sad that he seemingly can't throw anything else, GSP obviously knew that was the only thing coming because his defense was ducking and throwing his left arm up to deflect the hook. Koscheck's two best strikes were the two times he threw a jab-right uppercut combo, but Kos apparently couldn't figure out to keep doing that.

Shields striking is awful, even worse than Koscheck's and Shield's wrestling isn't as good. Shields has good jits, but he doesn't have a killer guard. And his wrestling isn't good enough to get on top of GSP unless he sweeps, which is highly unlikely. GSP can comfortably beat Shields striking or wrestling.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Tuesday, December 14, 2010by Mike Whitman (mwhitman@sherdog.com)Bellator Fighting Championships finally has its new home on cable.The fight promotion has struck a three-year partnership with MTV2 which will see the cable network broadcast two live 12-week tournaments per year, as well as “a collection of special feature events,” beginning in 2011. Bellator CEO Bjorn Rebney and MTV2 Senior Vice President of Programming and Production Eric Conte announced the deal today via press release.“MMA is at the top of our audience’s wish list, and partnering with Bellator to bring live events and specials to MTV2 made complete sense since our viewers are so hungry to see more MMA on-air,” Conte said in a statement.Bellator’s primary broadcast partner for its second and third seasons was Fox Sports Net. Those broadcasts were met with some dissatisfaction, as many viewers were forced to watch the fights on delay due to various other network obligations. Rebney announced earlier this year that Bellator would be moving forward in 2011 with a new broadcast partner, but the promotion’s chairman would not disclose the new network’s identity.Earlier this month, MMAJunkie.com reported that Bellator was close to striking a new deal with Fox Entertainment Group, and that the upcoming fourth season would air live on FX.The Chicago-based fight promotion, currently on hiatus from broadcast and competition, will be entering its fourth season in 2011. Bellator’s format is unique among larger promotions, as with each 12-week season, the organization holds tournaments in various weight classes to crown divisional champions and number-one contenders.

 

[Sea Ropes]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

 

[Sebowski]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

You would think that would be a good idea, but exceptions have been made for Couture and Penn (twice). I think if they did this it would have to be a catchweight so no titles are on the line. Silva cutting down to less than 185 would diminish him though. Another reason not to do the fight.

 

[No. 16]

I do not want to see GSP-Anderson. Anderson is way too big for GSP. Nothing would come of the fight. They are both all-time greats. They don;t need to fight each other to prove that.

We get to see two of the greatest MMA fighters go at it? They do not need to fight each other to pad tier resumes for P4P GOAT, but as a fan I would love to see arguably the two best MMA fighters ever face each other.

At different points in their career out of their ideal weightclass.

Silva is getting older so that's why it needs to be done ASAP, but 15 pounds is not a lot of ground to make up considering that both of these guys rely on technique/skill more than athleticism. Now, don't get me wrong but both have top notch athleticism, but the focus of the fight will be top notch striking and the classic wrestler vs bjj match up on the ground. I'd rather see GSP fight Silva than run through all the Welterweights for the 3rd time.

First, 15 fight pounds is a lot to give up. Anderson has said he walks around between 215 and 220; GSP just said he walks around at 190. I think you are underestimating Anderson's size and/or overestimating GSP's. pic of Silva next to a big dude pic of GSP next to a little dude

Second, I feel Silva peaked a couple years ago, and GSP is peaking right now. I don't think making them fight would prove anything in an all-time p4p list. I'd much rather see Anderson move up and take on challenges at 205 (Shogun, Rampage, Rashad) and see GSP move down and clean out the lightweights. GSP said he does weight training to look good. He has a lot of "show" muscle. He can lose that, drop down, and clear out 155 if someone there is dominating while GSP takes care of the rest of his 170 business (Shields, probably Fitch again, and a Condit/Alves winner; that's a year's worth of fights). Yes, he would be the heavy favorite in all of those, but that I don't hold that against him.

What would GSP gain from moving down and beating up smaller guys? Sorry, but would rather watch GSP vs Silva and I think many are in the same boat.

 

[Jack Burton]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

 

[Bobcat10]

Can the UFC force that fight to happen? I thought they both said they would never fight each other?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Can the UFC force that fight to happen? I thought they both said they would never fight each other?

GSP and Silva? They have never said they would not fight each other. Silva and Machida will never fight each. I'm sure Dana White can be very persuasive but I don't think he can actually force anyone to fight.

 

[Bobcat10]

Can the UFC force that fight to happen? I thought they both said they would never fight each other?

GSP and Silva? They have never said they would not fight each other. Silva and Machida will never fight each. I'm sure Dana White can be very persuasive but I don't think he can actually force anyone to fight.

Ooops, I was thinking Silva/Machida. Never mind...thanks.

 

[Sebowski]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

On the surface you're right, but if GSP loses to Sonnen (who I think he would) or Belfort is Silva-GSP the superfight everyone wants to claim it to be? No it isn't.190 may be a big welterweight, but it isn't 220. GSP has said he trains with Middleweights and knows it would take him a lot of time to put the proper weight on to compete up there. He also said he would only do it if he planned on staying up. He won't go back and forth on his weight.

 

[jestertj]

Can the UFC force that fight to happen? I thought they both said they would never fight each other?

GSP and Silva? They have never said they would not fight each other. Silva and Machida will never fight each. I'm sure Dana White can be very persuasive but I don't think he can actually force anyone to fight.

Ooops, I was thinking Silva/Machida. Never mind...thanks.

Wouldn't this be a very boring fight even if they were persuaded with $$$? Friends who don't want to punch each other that are counter strikers?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

On the surface you're right, but if GSP loses to Sonnen (who I think he would) or Belfort is Silva-GSP the superfight everyone wants to claim it to be? No it isn't.190 may be a big welterweight, but it isn't 220. GSP has said he trains with Middleweights and knows it would take him a lot of time to put the proper weight on to compete up there. He also said he would only do it if he planned on staying up. He won't go back and forth on his weight.

If GSP is given a tune up fight @ 185, it would similar to Anderson fighting James Irvin, effectively a can for him to get better accustomed to the weight. The UFC is really hesitant to put decent contenders against each other if it jeopardizes at future title matchup, no way would they risk a superfight by giving GSP a credible opponent. I really think the weight thing is a bit overrated. Anderson is not a powerful 185er and GSP is very powerful @ 170. The size difference would matter a lot more GSP fought a wrestler like Sonnen, not so much Anderson. Again, it seems really similar to BJ vs Edgar to me

 

[Sebowski]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

On the surface you're right, but if GSP loses to Sonnen (who I think he would) or Belfort is Silva-GSP the superfight everyone wants to claim it to be? No it isn't.190 may be a big welterweight, but it isn't 220. GSP has said he trains with Middleweights and knows it would take him a lot of time to put the proper weight on to compete up there. He also said he would only do it if he planned on staying up. He won't go back and forth on his weight.

If GSP is given a tune up fight @ 185, it would similar to Anderson fighting James Irvin, effectively a can for him to get better accustomed to the weight. The UFC is really hesitant to put decent contenders against each other if it jeopardizes at future title matchup, no way would they risk a superfight by giving GSP a credible opponent. I really think the weight thing is a bit overrated. Anderson is not a powerful 185er and GSP is very powerful @ 170. The size difference would matter a lot more GSP fought a wrestler like Sonnen, not so much Anderson. Again, it seems really similar to BJ vs Edgar to me

Except this time the bigger guy might also be the faster guy.

 

[Jack Burton]

Wouldn't GSP need to prove he can hang with a true 185er before Dana matches him up against Silva?

Definately. Silva is 6'2" 220lbs and GSP is 5'11" 190. As good as GSP is he would be in trouble with a fighter like Silva (who is more realisticly a light heavyweight but fights as a middleweight) with sick skills. Silva made Rich Franklin and Forest Griffin look like children when they fought. Let GSP try out a couple lesser fighters at 185 before throwing him in there best there is at that weight.

I disagree. Outside of Thiago Alves and Rumble Johnson, GSP is the biggest middleweight I can think of. And while it may "make sense" for them to give him a warmup, it's a low-gain / huge-loss situation for the UFC. Say they hypothetically put GSP up against Sonnen or Belfort. Then Hypothetically say GSP loses. the UFC has lost it's superfight. I don't think I'm going to far out on a limb to suggest that a GSP/Silva PPV would probably shatter the buy record. Dana and Joe Silva know this. I'd guess if GSP goes to 185, it will be only for Silva (unless/until he wins, then that opens up a whole new world of fights.)

On the surface you're right, but if GSP loses to Sonnen (who I think he would) or Belfort is Silva-GSP the superfight everyone wants to claim it to be? No it isn't.190 may be a big welterweight, but it isn't 220. GSP has said he trains with Middleweights and knows it would take him a lot of time to put the proper weight on to compete up there. He also said he would only do it if he planned on staying up. He won't go back and forth on his weight.

If GSP is given a tune up fight @ 185, it would similar to Anderson fighting James Irvin, effectively a can for him to get better accustomed to the weight. The UFC is really hesitant to put decent contenders against each other if it jeopardizes at future title matchup, no way would they risk a superfight by giving GSP a credible opponent. I really think the weight thing is a bit overrated. Anderson is not a powerful 185er and GSP is very powerful @ 170. The size difference would matter a lot more GSP fought a wrestler like Sonnen, not so much Anderson. Again, it seems really similar to BJ vs Edgar to me

Yeah? ...try telling that to Chris Leben, Franklin, Irvin, and Forrest Griffin. Chris Lebens head is made of concrete but he looked silly when he fought Silva.I can't see it. I dont think GSP/Silva would be a superfight. Unless by superfight you mean biggest gate ever. I think the fight itself would not live up to expectation.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Anderson's beat down of Leben, Irvin, and Griffin was due to his skills as striker, not strength, however, holding Franklin in that thai-plumb was a fairly impressive display of strength. And I don't think Anderson would be much faster than GSP, if even at all.

Perhaps I underestimate the difference in weight, but Anderson may not have an answer for GSP's double leg or knee tap. If so, GSP can follow the same gameplan as Sonnen, except that GSP has much better GnP and is a much better grappler than Chael.

 

[Possum]

WEC 53 tonight - can't believe it's the last ever WEC event. This show is seriously stacked top to bottom.

I keep seeing the Shalorus-Palaszewski fight listed as both a main card and a prelim fight. I really hope it gets broadcast, I'd rather see that fight than Varner-Roller. I'll be pulling for Bartimus to get the upset but Shalorus is a freaking beast - he's got world class wrestling and serious KO power.

plus both the Chinese dude Zhang Tie Quan and Brad Pickett have fights on the prelims - gonna suck to miss those if they don't get shown.

the main card is awesome though, even if Varner-Roller is the fight that gets shown. Cerrone-Horodecki is gonna end with a knockout one way or another, and I think both champs are going down tonight too.

picks:

Shalorus

Varner

Cerrone

Jorgenson

Pettis

 

[Abrantes]

Pouring out my 40 for the WEC. Sure, the UFC is better for it, but I'm not getting those killer lighter-weight cards for free!

Hope we get some quick fights, 'cause the prelims look exciting. Really curious about Zhang and my two Brazilian homeboys. Hope I'm wrong about Cerrone winning, 'cause he gets on my nerves. Not as high on Jorgensen as most everyone else, and if Benavidez couldn't take Cruz down consistently, I don't see Jorgensen being the one to do it. Henderson/Pettis should be awesome.

Predictions/guesses:

Bendo

Cruz

Cerrone

Shalorus

Zhang

Varner

Pickett

Wineland

Castillo

Alcântara

Barão

 

[Clayton Gray]

I think both champs are going down tonight too.

Why so?Henderson should take it to the ground and submit Pettis within the first couple of rounds. And, while I dislike Cruz's style (long on action / short on substance), Jorgensen probably won't be able to hurt him and surely won't be able to take him down. Cruz will probably take it 50-45 on all three cards.

 

[modogg]

I think both champs are going down tonight too.

Why so?Henderson should take it to the ground and submit Pettis within the first couple of rounds. And, while I dislike Cruz's style (long on action / short on substance), Jorgensen probably won't be able to hurt him and surely won't be able to take him down. Cruz will probably take it 50-45 on all three cards.

Man, i almost forgot about this tonight. I have a few random bets, biggest is:Henderson inside distance +200

it is a nice card though, and should be an exciting card

 

[Abrantes]

it is a nice card though, and should be an exciting card

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

A little annoyed that there's prelim fights going on now, and VS has dedicated to entire hour to WEC, but we're not seeing any of these fights.

 

[Possum]

I think both champs are going down tonight too.

Why so?Henderson should take it to the ground and submit Pettis within the first couple of rounds. And, while I dislike Cruz's style (long on action / short on substance), Jorgensen probably won't be able to hurt him and surely won't be able to take him down. Cruz will probably take it 50-45 on all three cards.

just a feeling - I could easily be wrong, both of them would be upsets. But I don't think Henderson will be able to keep Pettis on the ground, and I think he's gonna have a big disadvantage standing. I think Pettis is just too fast and athletic and will catch Henderson at some point and end the fight.the other fight, I just think Jorgenson is going to come into this guns blazing and overwhelm Cruz. Jorgenson is an animal and I don't believe Cruz has the power to slow him down - I think it'll go five rounds and Jorgenson either takes a decision or gets the stoppage late.

 

[Possum]

damn, not looking good for Bartimus - I think Shalorus took both the first two rounds. Entertaining fight though, and if Shalorus used his wrestling like this against Varner I think he would've taken the fight fairly easily.

 

[Possum]

nice finish by the Cowboy, although I thought Horodecki was holding his own in the standup.

the WEC lightweights will be a great addition to the UFC - Cerrone, Varner, Henderson and Pettis will be tough matchups for anybody Zuffa's got at LW. That division is gonna be right there with 205 for the most stacked weight class in the organization.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Cerrone ... gets on my nerves

 

[modogg]

it is a nice card though, and should be an exciting card

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Nice. Really hope they can put some of these on the broadcast here. Little annoying all of this backstory stuff.And a big winner out of the UFC-WEC merger that I hadn't thought of right away is that the UFC unleashed show has a lot of good fights added to it's library. May have to start watching that show again

 

[Possum]

Cerrone ... gets on my nerves

he's pretty damn arrogant, but the dude comes to scrap and puts on a great show every time he's in the cage. I can't say I think he's a great human being but I'm definitely a fan of his fighting style.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I dislike Cruz's style (long on action / short on substance)

Man. I don't get this. Cruz is one of the most entertaining guys I can think of. So unique, talented, and busy. Big fan here.

 

[Possum]

these Kenny Powers commercials are awesome.

"that was almost a death blow, bro"

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've probably said this during prior WEC events.

Do. Not. Like. Bonner as a commentator.

 

[Possum]

looks like I was dead wrong on this fight. Jorgenson just didn't have anything for Cruz - the champ had too much movement and landed too many punches.

I thought Jorgenson would come in with a lot more aggression though and let his hands and feet go a lot more than he did. Instead he just tried to stalk Cruz around the cage all night waiting for opportunities that never came. Cruz didn't have the power to put Jorgenson away but he's just so damn herky jerky and quick, it's impossible to corner him by cutting off the ring the way Jorgenson kept trying to do.

 

[modogg]

Cruz will probably take it 50-45 on all three cards.

Pretty impressive there bud

 

[Possum]

Cruz will probably take it 50-45 on all three cards.

Pretty impressive there bud

yup, good call CG.

 

[Possum]

holy crap this is one of the sickest fights I've ever seen.

I had it 2-1 Pettis going into the 4th but no idea who took that one.

 

[Hoos First]

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

HMFS

 

[modogg]

HMFS

i watched it 3 times, and still can't believe it. if that doesn't make Sportscenter, there is no justice in the Sports media world. Probably wishful thinking, but i can't imagine there was a bigger highlight in any sport tonight

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

May be a little bit prone to hyperbole in the heat of the moment, but....

Greatest MMA moment ever? Serious question.

 

[Possum]

judges got that one right.

what a fight to send the WEC out

 

[snorlax]

That's probably the most amazing thing I've seen in a sporting event. I may have woken up my neighbors. I've got it 48-47 Pettis.

 

[snorlax]

May be a little bit prone to hyperbole in the heat of the moment, but....Greatest MMA moment ever? Serious question.

The only thing that may have been lacking from it is the fact that it didn't knock Henderson out, but my God....

 

[Possum]

May be a little bit prone to hyperbole in the heat of the moment, but....Greatest MMA moment ever? Serious question.

Werdum choking Fedor out probably outranks it for historical significance but for sheer balls out insanity it's probably the wildest thing I've ever seen. Just an awesome fight all the way through.

 

[Widbil83]

That's probably the most amazing thing I've seen in a sporting event. I may have woken up my neighbors. I've got it 48-47 Pettis.

Completely unreal. I was saying that he might need to do something big in the end after getting taken down early in the round and than that happened.

 

[Abrantes]

That kick was some serious videogame ####. Never seen anything like it. I don't know about Greatest, but it's high in the Top HMFS Moments in MMA. Sick moment to close out the WEC's history. oursout40:

Also, I wasn't in the topic at the time, but I enjoyed the crap out of watching Cruz tonight. Man, his style looks funky, but he's completely in control, switching it up, feinting and disguising his takedowns in such a way that I don't think Jorgensen was ever in the fight. Really incredible stuff.

 

[Abrantes]

Thanks for the thrills, WEC. It's been emotional.